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2011-05-03 India-Pakistan
After Osama: Stop feeding the beast
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Posted by Fred 2011-05-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [15 views ]  Top

#1 None of this is news. Aside from the folks who have been claiming for years that OBL was dead (you know who you are), who didn't think he was in Pakistan?

Which begs the question, what did Bammo trade the Pakistanis for OBL's life?
Posted by Iblis 2011-05-03 00:43||   2011-05-03 00:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Too true how dictators like Perv,Mubarak and Saleh have been using the Bogey man-The Islamists to gain money from the West.

This must stop as recent events show how unpopular Islamist parties really are!
Posted by Black Bart Phuling7750 2011-05-03 06:59||   2011-05-03 06:59|| Front Page Top

#3 what did Bammo trade the Pakistanis for OBL's life?

I'm thinking back not too long ago about the uproar over the station officer in Pakland and the shooting of two 'suspected' ISI agents before they shot him and the ensuing diplomatic hissy fit. Obama might have been facing a mutiny over at the agency. Regardless of his man at the top, with his numbers tumbling, he didn't need to have the place start leaking as during the Bush administration. In effect, Pakland got thrown under the bus. Given the man's tendency to be petulant, it fits the scenario.
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-05-03 08:40||   2011-05-03 08:40|| Front Page Top

#4 I suspect a lot of folks at the top in Pakistan might not have known about this, or were afraid of the ISI. This raid exposes the ISI internationally. We are fools if we don't drop some names of bad people indicating them as informants in order to get them killed or at least scurrying for cover.

As for Pakistan. We should not declare them as an Enemy. We are involved in too many places now. But we should increase friendly relations with India and set up some ops that are designed to root out informants within the ISI, or set them up. Say let them in on a mission to extract someone, then bomb that extraction point instead, sewing distrust between the ISI and Al Queda and killing any ISI that hope to help prevent such an extraction.
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-05-03 08:55||   2011-05-03 08:55|| Front Page Top

#5 #1 None of this is news. Aside from the folks who have been claiming for years that OBL was dead (you know who you are), who didn't think he was in Pakistan?

that would be me on both counts
Posted by Frank G 2011-05-03 09:52||   2011-05-03 09:52|| Front Page Top

#6 Obambi was trapped into it.

He would have had a full blown riot on his hands if word had leaked that he knew where OBL/UBL(who cares, he's dead) was and did not take action.

He also was looking at plummeting poll numbers. He did it for the votes and he did it for the PR.

As for where OBL/UBL(who cares he's dead) was, I always thought he was living in Detroit working for CAIR or was in Riverside down the street from me or running a Motel 6 in Daggett.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2011-05-03 10:43||   2011-05-03 10:43|| Front Page Top

#7 i too thought he was dead.
Posted by bman 2011-05-03 11:03||   2011-05-03 11:03|| Front Page Top

#8 I thought the Special Ops guys got him during Cast Lead - at least thats what I was told. Just saw the picture - they truly got him this time.
Posted by newc 2011-05-03 12:55||   2011-05-03 12:55|| Front Page Top

#9 I think that's the fake pic, newc - I'm eagerly awaiting the real one.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2011-05-03 13:14||   2011-05-03 13:14|| Front Page Top

#10 Ummm, Newc, your picture's gone.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-05-03 15:41||   2011-05-03 15:41|| Front Page Top

#11 The US should start permanently dispatching ISI people promptly and in large numbers. There must be a price paid by directly the Pakistani intelligence rank and file as well as leadership for screwing with us like that. Cutting funding does nothing in the long run.
Posted by Speamble Wittlesbach8094 2011-05-03 16:47||   2011-05-03 16:47|| Front Page Top

#12 Speamble Wittlesbach8094, a price will be extracted. As long as the Executive branch and certain legislative persons don't get in the way. Its just taken a while for the bulk of the IC to catch up to the view that the ISI is not only not our friend, but is an active enemy in many instances. This raid hammered the point home rather well.
Posted by OldSpook 2011-05-03 20:10||   2011-05-03 20:10|| Front Page Top

#13 One other thing to consider. The US does not want to be seen killing all these people off. But that's not an obstacle in the region if you approach it right. An indirect approach might take a bit longer but can be more effective. For instance: if other agencies of nations hostile to Pakistan are active there, simply revealing the ISI person of interest to the right people is enough to guarantee their disappearance (for interrogation) or demise without a whiff of US involvement. And it does wonders in improving the other agency/nation's relationship with the US, clandestinely. Just something to consider.
Posted by OldSpook 2011-05-03 20:17||   2011-05-03 20:17|| Front Page Top

#14 The pic is available at the link, you just have to look around and find the link and click it. There are a couple right below the "missing" picture.

Obviously a fake.
Posted by gorb 2011-05-03 21:05||   2011-05-03 21:05|| Front Page Top

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