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-Short Attention Span Theater-
US geophysicist predicts quake to hit LA 'by Sept 5'
Posted by: Lux || 04/15/2004 15:31 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ima worried about the unexplained loss of 3 lbs earthquake pills. It'sa makin me hjitter
Posted by: Acme Plate Tectonics Dept || 04/15/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#2  This happens to be my professional area.
This work is looking good so far, but it remains to be seen whether it is applicable in the general case rather than specifically to certain consistently active zones.
It involves some very complex statistical analysis and this could very well exclude variables that may be more significant in other areas than in Southern California or Hokkaido.
I would like to see it applied to the New Madrid zone in Missouri for example, since that area presents what is probably the most under-rated earthquake hazard in the world.
BTW, did y'all know there are several potentially active volcanoes in Texas, including one near Amarillo?
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 04/15/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||

#3  AC, what are they using, structural equation modeling (e.g., hierarchical linear modeling)?
Posted by: cingold || 04/15/2004 18:34 Comments || Top||

#4  BTW, did y'all know there are several potentially active volcanoes in Texas, including one near Amarillo?

It's hard, but the big momma has decided there was a mistake made in the panhandle and gaia gonna have to handle the renewal project.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/15/2004 19:18 Comments || Top||

#5  I would like to see it applied to the New Madrid zone in Missouri for example, since that area presents what is probably the most under-rated earthquake hazard in the world.

Source of, if I'm not mistaken, the strongest earthquake in North America's historical record. Reversed the course of the Mississippi for a time and nearly sank the first steam boat on the river.

I was going to include a stop there in my vacation soujourn this year, but there's not enough time.

BTW -- back in, oh, 1990 or so, some Beauzeau predicted the New Madrid fault would let rip sometime that November. That led to the odd experience of hearing warnings about what to do during an earthquake in Peoria, IL.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/15/2004 19:35 Comments || Top||

#6  In related news Al-Q made a threat that it would 'cause serious harm' in the LA area on or before September 5th.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/15/2004 19:38 Comments || Top||

#7  Yes, indeed, Cingold. Such models (a series of them for each of a number of past events and hypothetical future events) are the apparent beginning point for Keilis-Borke's method.

The actual algorithms used for the predictive analysis are based on non-linear dynamics and chaos theory, altering the value of various points of comparison until a predictive model is reached for a past event.
These values (each of which is actually an individual algorithm rather than a quantity) are then applied to hypothetical future events and a probability derived.
The extensive use of chaos theory and non-linear dynamics are the source of a lot of the expressed skepticism, since as Keilis-Borok says, these methods are counter-intuitive to many geophysicists.
Quite frankly, some of us in this field are not as well-informed about these kinds of mathematics as we should be. To my way of thinking, they are a little spooky but a good way to bypass some of the inherent problems in geophysical modeling, the difficulty of defining a limit of significant detail being one. That is, the complexity of a geophysical model can be arbitrarily increased with legitimate variables for as long as you like.
Chaos theory, according to its proponents, cuts across this and essentially summarizes these open-ended complexities.
Some of the participants in this effort are leading figures in chaos theory, which I think gives a good idea of the mathematical architecture of their system.

Btw, like the internet, this kind of math was invented by the former vice-president, which is why it is named for him (Al-Gore-ithm).
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 04/15/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||

#8  AC can you post a couple of links for someone who has a reasonable grasp of geology, but math makes their head hurt? TIA
Posted by: Phil B || 04/15/2004 20:24 Comments || Top||

#9  Here ya' go, Phil:
The Southern California Earthquake Center
USGS Earthquake Hazards Program (lot of good stuff here)
International Institute of Earthquake Prediction Theory and Mathematical Geophysics (IIEPT) (this is Keilis-Borke's organization in Russia)
There is an awful lot of quackery and pseudoscience connected with this. It seems to be very profitable.
Bob Fryer Fryer the liar charges that earthquake prediction has been routine for decades and that this fact has been suppressed at the cost of thousands of lives.
Syzygy This is a very popular earthquake prediction newsletter that relies on phases of the Moon, tidal data and the like.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 04/15/2004 21:01 Comments || Top||

#10  Thanks AC some interesting stuff. It also reminded me that the real earthquake threat isn't in California but in the Pacific Northwest up into Canada and Alaska where at some point there will be magnitude 9 to 10 quake.
Posted by: Phil B || 04/15/2004 21:30 Comments || Top||

#11  Btw, like the internet, this kind of math was invented by the former vice-president, which is why it is named for him (Al-Gore-ithm).

AC, that's great. LMAO. I can just see Al iterating fractals and plugging away at LISREL or SPSS AMOS solutions. Or better yet, working all the matrix algebra by hand . . .
Posted by: cingold || 04/15/2004 23:31 Comments || Top||

#12  AC, is there an update on the efficacy, or any correlation of this, provided by RF measurements?
Posted by: Zenster || 04/16/2004 1:26 Comments || Top||


Flasher Attacked By Schoolgirls Sentenced To 10-24 Months In Prison
Philadelphia — A man who was tackled and beaten by a group of Roman Catholic schoolgirls after he flashed them outside their high school was sentenced Wednesday to 10 months to two years in prison. Rudy Susando, 25, also was sentenced to 5 years probation after his release, Assistant District Attorney Noel Ann DeSantis said. Susando, a native of Indonesia, also might face deportation after his sentence is served, DeSantis said. Susando was arrested Oct. 30 when more than a dozen girls from St. Maria Goretti High School for Girls, with the help of a bystander, chased him and wrestled him to the ground and held him for police. When he resisted, the girls kicked him repeatedly. The schoolgirls said the man had been exposing himself outside the school for about a month and a half, typically jumping out from behind a van, then running away, police said.
Posted by: TS || 04/15/2004 2:17:37 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dumbass prevert... messin' wit the girls from St. Maria Goretti High, you messin' wit the WRONG GIRLS, know what I'm sayin'? Whatta jerk...

This story's been on our local news off and on ever since the flashing incident; apparently those girls really beat the living crap out of the guy. Good on 'em, I say.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/15/2004 14:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Just think how his fellow inmates are going to treat him. Not only is he a creep, he's a creep who got beat up by girls.
Posted by: Mike || 04/15/2004 14:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Young ladies: VERY COOL! I hope you got some good kicks into the right spot!
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Sometimes things just work out.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/15/2004 17:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Do I smell a trend? First Flight 93, then this? I've also read several other stories, both local and national, about people putting an end to criminal behavior ON THE SPOT, instead of "leaving it to the cops". Maybe we've regained that sense of strength we had before, that we aren't going to take sh$$ from anyone, and we'll put a stop to bad behavior when it happens. Now if we can just keep the Dummycrats out of the way, and end the PC bull, we may have a chance to regain the kind of nation we once had - a nation we can be proud to be a part of!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/15/2004 17:40 Comments || Top||

#6  I doubt it OP, that guy just did his thing one time too many :-p
Posted by: Dcreeper || 04/15/2004 18:01 Comments || Top||


'Identical flag' causes flap in Romania and Chad
National flag of Romania... ehrmmm... or maybe Chad... or... ummm... someplace.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 04/15/2004 03:11 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's hope they don't go to war over this. That would be... confusing.
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/15/2004 10:19 Comments || Top||

#2  "Okay, you guys are right-to-left, and YOU guys are left-to-right..."
Posted by: mojo || 04/15/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey Fred! New colors for the associate editors!
Posted by: Steve White || 04/15/2004 10:58 Comments || Top||

#4  This is one war I would like to watch. I wonder if they're airplanes even make it to the others country before crashing?
Posted by: Charles || 04/15/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually did you know that Poland and Indonesia are upside-down of one another in the flag department. I could say that the Poles are high-quality competent fighters, who are our allies, etc. etc., and Indonesia is a hotbed for al-Qaeda terrorist cells, and the home of the Bali bombing, but what does that have to do with the flags.

Actually as a new member of NATO we will insure Romania has adequate planes. Of course Chad, an ex-French colony. . . I needent go any further. Romania : Please don't request any funds for your occupation of N'Djamena (Chad Capital)
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 11:45 Comments || Top||

#6  There are a number of European flags that are nearly identical if you tip them on their side or something. Very confusing. Still, its better than the barcode European flag someone came up with a year or two ago.

What is the European fascination with three colored bars anyway?
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/15/2004 11:57 Comments || Top||

#7  Is a yellow stripe down the middle a good thing???
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/15/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#8  The flags are similar to the flags of Colombia, Venezuela and Ecuador.
Posted by: Kentucky Beef || 04/15/2004 14:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Im curious why any country would want to have a flag that is blue yelo gray. Odd.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/15/2004 17:17 Comments || Top||

#10  ruprecht> Many of these flags once had some distinguishing mark that either indicated monarchy or communism -- when the regimes in question got overthrown, the symbols were removed and the flags turned a bit plainer as a result.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 04/15/2004 18:15 Comments || Top||

#11  blue yelo gray

What are you talking about? I see blue yello white.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/15/2004 19:14 Comments || Top||

#12  Hmmm.. you must not have enuf art history hours Rafael.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/15/2004 19:20 Comments || Top||

#13  Aris, perhaps they could replace the lost symbol with the European Union circle of Stars. At least it would seperate them from other nations and show how wonderful they think the Union idea is.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/15/2004 19:57 Comments || Top||

#14  ruprecht> Feeling trollish tonight?
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 04/15/2004 20:15 Comments || Top||

#15  How come I've only seen blue, yellow, red???

Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/15/2004 22:09 Comments || Top||

#16  NBA merchandizing ought to get in touch with Chad and explain to them the financial value of changing your flag every so often. Everyone would have to go out and buy new flags and the government would be in royalty revenue city. Nike might be interested in providing so new military duds if Chad agreed to substitute the "swoosh" for the chevrons.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 22:58 Comments || Top||


Mucky’s Revenge: Poison gas from rotting squid guts kills 3
EFL - I’ll pass on the calimari for the foreseeable future.
Three of four crew members found dead Sunday aboard a South Korean vessel at a fishing port in Oda, Shimane Prefecture, may have died from lack of oxygen due to a gas caused after the guts of squid in the hold of the ship rotted, police and Japan Coast Guard officials said Tuesday. According to their investigation, the surviving crew member was Kim Jung Back, captain of the vessel, the Dong Woo, which was used to transport the internal organs of squid to be processed into salted guts. The hold of the ship was divided into 19 sections, investigators said, adding that they found rotten squid guts in two sections of the hold where the three men and Kim were found. The police strongly suspect the two sections had become filled with poisonous gas generated by the rotten internal organs.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 1:32:03 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh, yeggg. That's enough to gag a maggot.
Posted by: Dave D. || 04/15/2004 6:06 Comments || Top||

#2  the internal organs of squid . . . processed into salted guts

First kimchee, now this. Koreans are nice enough people, 'least the ones I've met, but what's up with them and cooking?
Posted by: Mike || 04/15/2004 6:55 Comments || Top||

#3  You forgot to mention (Mucky, don't read this) dog stew.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/15/2004 7:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Squid guts are good for the 'ying'
Posted by: Anonymous4185 || 04/15/2004 8:35 Comments || Top||

#5  And good squits for the yang.
Posted by: Howard UK || 04/15/2004 9:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Squid guts: Why do they hate us?
Posted by: Dar || 04/15/2004 10:18 Comments || Top||

#7  How do we know it wasn't... Squidzilla!
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/15/2004 10:21 Comments || Top||

#8  How utterly-------------anaerobic.......I'm breathless....
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/15/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Next on Fox-When invertabraes attack!

Kim K. Kim,North Korea's top anchorman-In today's top story,a dedicated socialist comrade,inspired by our own divine leader,foiled a plot by degenerate fishing-dog allies of The Great Enemy to invade our beloved homeland's waters.

John F. Kerry(I served in Viet Nam)press release-It is unfortunate that Pres.Bush does not have a plan to ensure the safety of the world's fisherpersons.You may rest assured that the world's fisherpersons will be able to fish in safety under the Kerry(I served in Viet Nam)Administration.I would also point out that I,John F. Kerry,served in Viet Nam on a small boat so I am particularly qualified to be President and understand what fisherpersons need.

John F. Kerry(I served in Viet Nam)press release-I would like to nuance my previous release.While a John F. Kerry(I served in Viet Nam)Administration would ensure the safety of fisherpersons the world over,this is in no way an endorsement of fishing.Oceanic inhabitants have just as much right to live in peace as do those who live on land.I therefore condemn the Bush Administration for not protecting oceanic inhabitants.A major focus of the John F. Kerry(I served in Viet Nam)Administration will be protecting oceanic inhabitants.

UN press release-The world community must act now to preserve the peace in the Pacific.We therefore request $50Million from the US Government so that we may send peacekeepers to the area.

BBC news report-While the Bush Administration sat idly by,a massacre of stunning scale took place in the cold waters of the American Navy-patrolled North Pacific...

Technothriller lead-Rock Hardcase of the CIA's special action team first learned of N.K. plot when...

Reporter's book's lead-My first lead on the rogue CIA group's plan was...
Posted by: Stephen || 04/15/2004 17:07 Comments || Top||

#10  im never to amaze the thing peple will stick in there mouth. im bet those guy never do that again!
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/15/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Colombia requests application of Democratic Chart to Venezuela
In a communiqué leaked to the press allegedly the Colombian Senate has requested the OAS, American countries and the international community in general to apply the OAS’ Democratic Chart to the government of Hugo Chavez for what they consider as a continuous violation of Venezuela’s constitution and for blocking the democratic attempts of the opposition to hold a recall referendum on his mandate.
That oughta take care of that problem, by Gum!
The communiqué also asks the international community for total support in these dire moments for democracy in Venezuela. In their view the democratic opposition has fulfilled all the legal requirements set forth by the government of Hugo Chavez to celebrate the recall, effort that has been arrested in illegal fashion by the Constitutional Chamber of the Supreme Court and National Electoral Council’s officials.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 02:17 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Soon to be followed by an increase of Cuban advisors - I mean, social workers near Colombia's northern borders...
Posted by: Pappy || 04/15/2004 11:25 Comments || Top||

#2  What I want to know is: How much longer until an A.U.C.-type right-wing paramilitary group emerges in Venezuela. That's what they need.
Posted by: Kentucky Beef || 04/16/2004 0:15 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
S. Korean Uri Party That Fought Roh Ouster Leads Poll
South Korean President Roh Moo Hyun's supporters in the Uri Party took majority of the directly elected seats in the National Assembly, with 97 percent of the vote counted, after a backlash by voters against the opposition's impeachment of Roh. Uri had 129 of 243 seats, and the Grand National Party had 100, the National Election Commission said. The vote for 56 seats in a separate proportional vote based on party preference is 25 percent counted. A Uri victory may help Roh in his bid to be exonerated in court of impeachment charges, according to analysts including Baik Hak Soon. ``It will be hard for the court to ignore the results of this election since it reflects heavily on the impeachment,'' said Baik, a researcher at Sejong Research Institute. ``The judges may be under less pressure.''
Court opinions decided on the basis of popularity. Is it just me, or is there something wrong with what he said?
Control of the legislature would expand Roh's mandate in international and domestic affairs. The president sent troops to Iraq, backed the U.S. war on terrorism and pushed for multilateral talks to dismantle North Korea's nuclear arsenal.
And played kissy-face with Kimmie.
Still, Roh and his Uri Party supporters may have to fight a perception by some that they lack expertise in government administration. Uri has ``young, goofy people,'' said Yuktai Chan, who helps manage about $3 billion in Asia outside Japan for Threadneedle Asset Management in London. ``They are pro-reform, anti- corruption and pro-North Korea. They seem to be much in vogue at the moment. The Grand National Party is very old and conservative. They are the people associated with corruption and freedom.''

``The Uri Party would never have won so many seats had it not been for the impeachment,'' said Lee Nae Young, a political science professor at Korea University in Seoul. ``The election was dominated by public disapproval of the vote to oust Roh.'' In its election win, Uri overcame public anger against its chairman, Chung Dong Young, who said elderly voters shouldn't bother to cast ballots. Chung apologized and resigned this week as a legislative candidate. The election result swings the legislature to the left. The Democratic Labor Party, a union-activist party, will take seats in the National Assembly for the first time, overtaking the Millennium Democrats as the third biggest party. Democratic Labor won 11 seats. ``The results show that the public is thirsting for political reform,'' said Kwon Young Ghil, party leader. ``We plan to focus on economic growth for ordinary people.'' The Millennium Democratic Party slipped to fourth with nine seats. Roh and his loyalists broke with the party last September, forming the Uri Party. Roh won the presidency in December 2002 running as a Millennium Democrat, the party created by his predecessor Kim Dae Jung. Turnout among the nation's 35.6 million was almost 60 percent, according to preliminary figures from the National Election Commission. That's up from a record low 57 percent in the 2000 poll.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/15/2004 10:56:38 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought all Roh had to do was apologise for some infraction, he wouldn't, they impeached him.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/15/2004 22:17 Comments || Top||


Calling Hostage Takers "Terrorists" Makes Them Angry
From Mainichi Daily News:
During the debate in the Diet, Koizumi conspicuously avoided calling the hostage takers "terrorists," as clerics in Iraq who are working for the release of the three have said that the prime minister’s earlier reference to them as such had made them angry.
What a load of horseradish! The "hostage takers" get their underoos in a wad if they’re called "terrorists." They sure as Hell aren’t tourists! I pity Koizumi having to mince words over such scum.

Nothing that some bullets can’t fix. Then we’ll just call them "dead."

Not calling them terrorists makes me angry. Does that count?
Posted by: Zenster || 04/15/2004 12:04:13 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How about calling them:

Evolutionarily regressive Australopithecae
Rabid animals in need of "frontier euthanasia"
Dirt and cave loving woman supressors
Ingnorant violent cruds with a gun fetish

Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 14:55 Comments || Top||

#2  "frontier euthanasia"

A fine turn o'phrase.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/15/2004 17:22 Comments || Top||


Europe
France needs more tranqs - or just call them the enemy outright
Via Bros. Judd:
The Wacky World of French Intellectuals
By Laurent Murawiec
meforum.org
Whence comes the phenomenon known as fundamentalist Islam or Islamism? Some French analysts from a range of disciplines (international affairs, Orientalism, security studies, journalism) have come to an agreement: it comes from. . . the United States. Despite the inherent implausibility of viewing a movement engaged in a sustained attack on Americans as a diabolical U.S. plot, this argument has considerable persuasive power. It presents Islamism as an American attempt to retard progress in Muslim countries and divide them from their natural allies in Europe. Such ideas come at once from the Right and the Left, representing both nostalgia for the French empire and a residual "Third-Worldism." They have as their common denominator a hatred of the United States and all it stands for. Although still marginal, these ideas about Islamism have spilled over into policy-making circles and have had a skewing effect on French policies toward the Middle East.

America is "the last empire" in the view of these analysts, and that explains its aggressive policies. Paul-Marie de la Gorce, a leftist author with a Gaullist perspective on foreign affairs, believes that "the American empire is the only empire in the world today, it is an exclusive hegemony, and it is the first time that such a strange phenomenon occurs in human history."1 According to Senator Pierre BiarnÚs, in a 1998 book on geopolitics, it is an "unbearable America," a country dead-set on "moral and mercantile hegemony," obsessed with its own "hegemonic design."2

Worse, the United States is a "totalitarian democracy," writes Alexandre del Valle (the pen-name of Arthur Dupont, a French civil servant). It is a lone superpower intent on preventing any other power from emerging and determined to control Europe. Islamism is one whip used against Europe, but there are others:

Washington orchestrated the Asian financial crisis to bring down its dangerous rival Japan, and it uses the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) to control Europe against Europe’s interests. "Since the fall of the Berlin Wall, the mutuality of geopolitical and ideological interests that united America and Western Europe against the Soviet bloc seems to have become partly obsolete," del Valle writes in his somewhat convoluted style. In a more straightforward way, he observes that "the United States has launched a war against the Old World."

The theme of a war between the Old and the New Worlds recurs often. Pierre-Marie Gallois, a retired general, one of the conceptualizers of de Gaulle’s doctrine of "all points" nuclear deterrence, and a well-known figure in the French defense community, holds that it is U.S. strategy to subvert European sovereignty (désouverainiser). From this alleged intent stems Washington’s desire to place "Europe under German-American military control." The Germans go along with this because "the concept of Europe is an obsession for the Germans," who have always wanted to rule the continent. "In order to build that empire, the nation-states have to be destroyed," Gallois adds, which explains why the United States was set on undermining the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia. France should rebuke the Germans and the Americans, and join with "our traditional allies," Russia and Serbia....
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Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/15/2004 3:40:21 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  it is an exclusive hegemony, and it is the first time that such a strange phenomenon occurs in human history

Who was Rome's Imperial competitor?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/15/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#2  To quote Neo: 'Whoa'.

Whatever these "French" "Intellectuals" are "smoking" must be some good "shit"! Where can "I" get "some"?

Posted by: AllahHateMe || 04/15/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||

#3  ima think they got ma bong roland its name was
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 04/15/2004 17:24 Comments || Top||

#4 
France needs more tranqs - or just call them the enemy outright
Anonymous2U, you misspelled "and." :-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/15/2004 20:47 Comments || Top||

#5  The Mossad? Where's the Mossad? And Halliburton? And Chaney... sorry... chainey?
Looks like Mucky's moved to France and become an "intellectual".
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/15/2004 21:10 Comments || Top||

#6  Touche, Barb.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/15/2004 22:22 Comments || Top||

#7  French people take more tranquilizers, downers & barbituates than any other race/creed/nationality/ethnicity in the world, from what I understand.
Posted by: Kentucky Beef || 04/16/2004 1:27 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
How to tell a duck from a fox
"If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably a duck. A fox can claim to be a duck all day long. But he's still a fox."

We've all heard that saying, or some version of it, a thousand times. The reason is simple: It's true. Our actions prove who we are. If a gulf exists between what we say, how we look and what we do, we're not living in a spirit of truth. A fox, even if he quacks, is still a fox. Sooner or later, it becomes obvious. I remembered this last week as I read yet another news report about candidates who claim to be Catholic and then prominently ignore their own faith on matters of public policy. We've come a long way from John F. Kennedy, who merely locked his faith in the closet. Now we have Catholic senators who take pride in arguing for legislation that threatens and destroys life — and who then also take Communion.

The kindest explanation for this sort of behavior is that a lot of Catholic candidates don't know their own faith. And that's why, in a spirit of charity, the Holy See offered its guidance and encouragement in a little document last year On Some Questions Regarding the Participation of Catholics in Public Life. Nothing in this Roman document is new. But it offers a vision of public service filled with common sense.
More at the link...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/15/2004 17:26 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is not good news for Kerry, who needs to attract a large percentage of the Irish Catholic vote to carry any of the Northeast states. Unfortunately, it's written in Denver, and may never get seen in that part of the nation.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/15/2004 17:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Old Patriot,

IF the NorthEastern Catholic Church heirarchy feels same way,this may be just tip of iceberg.
Posted by: Stephen || 04/15/2004 17:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Kerry's thinking the Catholic confrontation over communin will be his Sister Souljah moment - I think it will expose his hypocrisy to Catholics, who don't need or want him as their poster boy (a la their pride for the real JFK)
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 17:56 Comments || Top||

#4  If the idiot knew anything about Catholicism, he'd have known not to take Communion. Hell, he should've known since the papers were talking about it before he did, on Easter.

Taking Communion was monumentally stupid on his part. It will not play well with practising Catholics.
Posted by: growler || 04/15/2004 18:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Though I guess he was thinking it would make him look more devout.

This fuckup is even worse than Howard Dean's not recognizing which Testament he was talking about.
Posted by: growler || 04/15/2004 18:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Using religion to get votes is lame imo. Kerry's actions were disengenuous and deserving of criticism. On the same token as a Catholic, I believe my faith is a personal thing. If I don't vote in line w/my church then they have the right to do what they gotta do. I'll be honest though, if I think something's best for the country as a whole (whether its keeping abortion legal or whatever) and my church doesn't see it the same way and wants to pressure me - then the country comes first. Politicians are sworn to defend and support the U.S. Constitution not any church. Separation of church and state I am a big fan of. I'd have to tell the church to back the f*ck off, not everyone's a Catholic. This is a hot button issue and everyone has exposed nerves when it comes to religion. Kerry should of never brought this subject in the public eye.
Posted by: Jarhead || 04/15/2004 21:53 Comments || Top||

#7  Jarhead, I couldn't agree more. Let me also say that I'm not a Catholic. What I hear the Archbishop here saying is that if you're a Catholic, and you want to be seen and honored (and collect votes) as a Catholic, you should ACT like a Catholic. Otherwise, you're nothing but a hypocrite. In John Kerry's case, the use of the term is redundant.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/15/2004 22:08 Comments || Top||

#8  Jarhead, as a Catholic, you do have to put God first in your life. And that means honoring His Church here on earth, including the Magisterum (teaching authority). If someone cannot do that (and Kerry & Kennedy cannot as evidenced by their behavior), then they are most definitely not a Catholic, and are better off going to another Christan sect that is amenable to your viewpoint.

Its like claiming to be a Marine, but treating Honor as a convienience to be discarded when circumstances make it difficult. If someone wants to be that "flexible" with their morals, they should be a used car salesman, not a Marine.

Likewise for Catholics.

To continue to willingly and repeatedly and unapologetically vote Pro-Abortion and such, in direct contravention to the Church's teachings and authority is to set one's self apart from the community of the Church, and as such, they should not be taking communion of the Holy Eucharist. The stain is upon their soul if they wrongly take Eucharist.

I have my disagreements with the Church over some issues, like the Death Penalty, but I subsume my views to conform to those of the Church as a matter of faith. If I didnt have faith that the Church was right in its central teachings, especially a core teaching like Human Vitae (and consider the possibility that my viewpoint could be wrong), then I would have no business being a Catholic.

And anyone that tries to claim Catholicism to their advantage while not taking up the burden of the full teachings is not only a hypocrite, but a decietful moral midget as well.

Its that simple: to be a Catholic you have to commit: follow the precepts and follow up in the life you live - if you cannot at least try (we all fail, its the trying and asking for forgiveness that matters), then you should go elsewhere.

FYI, Denver's last Archbishop ended up as a Cardinal at the Vatican. And the current one is a heck of a writer and a great moral teacher (I read a bunch of his stuff online thanks to your links).

So don't think that the voice of an Archbishop will not be hear outside of the Archdiocese - especially with as clear and well supporta a moral case as Archbishop Chaput makes. I bet this one has the Vatican's ear on more than a few things, and stands tall in the US Council of Bishops.
Posted by: OldSpook || 04/15/2004 23:14 Comments || Top||

#9  The difference/problem? A lotta Catholics in America are nominal and swing his way -- and that's at best ... the idea, probably, was that if done right, he'd hit upon an apathetic feel among Catholics-in-name-only (which may be the majority, I have an "ethnic" Catholic for a teacher in, ironically, World Religion) ...

(four words: "Catholic Lesbians" and "Matthew Fox" :P)
Posted by: Edward Yee || 04/16/2004 2:34 Comments || Top||


Senator Zoop
Link via Viking Pundit
Kerry Gets the Picture. Up! Up!
And away. Go far, far away, please...
Sometimes a photo opportunity is more than a photo opportunity.
Profound thinker, this wanker.
On Wednesday, when Senator Broomstick One Hillary Rodham Clinton took her colleague John Kerry to a Head Start program at Columbus Avenue and 108th Street in Manhattan, the photographers got a lovely picture of the Democratic presidential candidate reading to a group of 4- and 5-year-olds.
Um, maybe it is just a photo op?
Mr. Kerry, meanwhile, got a quick lesson in how to relate to children, courtesy of his fellow junior senator.
"That son of a bitch just drooled on me!"
Mr. Kerry, who is often faulted as failing to connect to anyone audiences, was doing his best to reach the 10 children at the Bloomingdale Family Program — and their voting-age teachers. He folded his lanky frame, sat on the floor and opened "Abiyoyo" by Pete Seeger...
...the same Pete Seeger who was a 60’s radical hippie musician? The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, does it?
a book about a giant tamed by an African boy and his father, whose magic wand makes the giant disappear. Mr. Kerry, whose daughters are long since grown, kept neglecting to show the children the pictures.
And the Left complains about Bush needing coaching?
Luckily, he was sitting at the feet of a former first lady. "John, make sure he can see that," Mrs. Clinton prompted at one point. "John, turn it around one more time," she said later, asking the children, "Can you see?"
"John, can I be your running mate?"
Mr. Kerry obliged, but still seemed to have politics on the brain as he narrated the story of the magic wand — "Zoop!" — making things disappear. "I could go zoop! and Republicans would disappear," he said.
Civil, well reasoned discourse, or the inadvertent slip of the tongue showing his latent fascist tendencies? Discuss.
A few moments later, Mrs. Clinton provided a graceful exit.
Somehow the words ’Clinton’ and ’graceful’ don’t jibe too well in the same sentence...
"We have to disappear," she told the boys and girls.
My thoughts exactly.
Posted by: Raj || 04/15/2004 4:27:16 PM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Stupid question -- has Kerry ever bred? I've never seen any mention of any offspring.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/15/2004 17:47 Comments || Top||

#2  adult offspring from his first investment wife
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 18:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Frank, LOL and 100% correct!
Posted by: Raj || 04/15/2004 18:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Alexandra and Vanessa Kerry
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 19:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Hillary is known for her poor people skills.When she has to bail you out,you have to be one clueless pol.
Posted by: Stephen || 04/15/2004 21:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Talk about faces made for radio! All I want to know is "why the long faces?"
Posted by: Tibor || 04/15/2004 23:58 Comments || Top||

#7  Alexandra and Vanessa. Maybe they could tie up with Amy Carter and Chelsea Clinton for a complete Dog Show.
Posted by: RMcLeod || 04/16/2004 0:44 Comments || Top||


Theresa Heinz-Kerry Does Not Want to release Tax Returns
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, who has called for full-disclosure of rivals’ tax returns, now faces growing pressure to release his wife’s records. But in a Tax Day controversy, Teresa Heinz Kerry is personally determined to keep her returns out of public view -- at any cost!
ALL THAT KETCHUP AND SOUP STOCK
"This is my life, my business, not John’s," Mrs. Kerry recently explained to a campaign staffer, a top source tells the DRUDGE REPORT. "I think it is very important to keep the privacy zone. There is a tradition of this."
YEAH - BUT IF YOU ARE IN THE KITCHEN WITH SOUP, THEN YOU MUST SERVE THE ENTREE! RELEASE THE RETURNS!
Laura Ingraham had a recording of TH-K calling herself "Nurse Fuzzy-Wuzzy" after the esteemed Senator’s recent rotator cuff shoulder surgery. I think that the finances are Fuzzy-Wuzzy as well.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 2:43:35 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Considering John's reported income isn't even enough to pay the property taxes on all their homes, I think it is our business. After all, he's living off her money.
Posted by: growler || 04/15/2004 16:26 Comments || Top||

#2  growler - that's a big affirmative. The only taxes listed on Sch. A look like his state withholding from his salary as U.S. Senator. I reviewed JFK's return, and I'm pretty sure his tax prep guys 'inadvertently onitted' the 2210 underpayment penalty. However, I need his 2002 Fed. return to confirm whether he meets the prior year exception.

Any Rantburger links to that return will be greatly appreciated.
Posted by: Raj || 04/15/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||

#3  as was noted in various places in the blogoshpere yesterday, his capital gains on his half (sound familiar?)of the million dollar painting sale last year bring up other questions, such as where he got the cash to speculate in teh first place. Release the hounds! forms!
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 16:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe Teresa could just release a redacted return which answers the questions relating to whether she is funding her husband's campaign.

She wouldn't have to release information about which equities she owns or her medical expenses, etc.
Posted by: mhw || 04/15/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Naahhhhh - No double standards or gimmees for these assholes. Do the same as they would require of Republicans - in fact, they should be offering to do that so as to maintain that standard of transparency. Open up Thereeeeza!
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#6  we are dems we have no double standards! it is our way or no way!

is this what we should expect from a hienz first lady!

stay the fuck out of my business you little people!
Posted by: Dan || 04/15/2004 17:08 Comments || Top||

#7  She's not running for office, he is.

What started this full disclosure of tax returns anyway? Why is it our biz what Bush or Kerry or any other public figure made? If they did something illegal, you know the IRS scours all of their returns.

Honestly, I don't get it.
Posted by: The Other Mike S. || 04/15/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#8  Raj:

I assume you saw his return at National Review Online.

There's something weird about his 2210. Looks like the YES box was checked when the NO box should've been (since $32,941.00 is not "more than line 8."

Anyways, you won't find his 2002 form online.

From the NY Times, Nov. 27, 2003:

Mr. Kerry's financial disclosure form from May lists accounts and trusts in his own name worth $400,000 to $1.8 million, and other assets held jointly with his wife at $300,000 to $600,000. One joint asset is a "painting held as an investment," worth $250,000 to $500,000. Ms. Heinz Kerry would not identify the work, but said that it had been recently sold "to a very good collection."

Mr. Kerry's aides have said he has assets worth at least several million dollars that do not have to be listed on his disclosure forms, like personal property not being held for investment purposes.

One such asset is Mr. Kerry's share of the couple's Beacon Hill house, which they bought around the time they were married in 1995, and rebuilt. Borrowing against his share -- he is believed to own half the house

From AP, May 16, 2003:

Sen. John Kerry, whose wife is enormously wealthy, inherited three trusts from his mother last year, according to a financial disclosure report released Friday.

After the death of his mother, Rosemary Forbes Kerry, last November, the Massachusetts Democrat inherited three trusts with between $300,000 and $1.5 million in assets. The holdings include between $66,000 and $165,000 in U.S. Treasury bonds as well as thousands of dollars in stocks, ranging from General Electric Co. and Merck & Co. to 3M Co. and Proctor & Gamble.

From the AP, Dec. 18, 2003:

According to tax returns released by his campaign Thursday, Kerry, who files separately from his wife, reported taxable income of $111,540 for 2002, primarily based on his Senate pay. He paid $29,946 in federal taxes, $7,286 in state income taxes and $1,167 in personal property taxes. He also reported giving $18,600 to charities last year.

Kerry also had $23,317 in short- and long-term losses on trusts he owns. Kerry has four trusts, including three he inherited last year from his mother, Rosemary Forbes Kerry.

Again, can't find any form; just those figures.
Posted by: growler || 04/15/2004 17:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Damnit! Freeper bastards projecting on JFK. Typical, hypocritical, it's her business! She inheirited it from her thankfully dead husband. She won! To steal a phrase. Get over it!

I expect many bad botox jokes and perhaps a call for the jacket of love.
Posted by: AntiGum || 04/15/2004 17:50 Comments || Top||

#10  thankfully dead husband

I don't think she would agree with you, AntiGum, on that remark.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 18:03 Comments || Top||

#11  growle - I must've missed that entirely. I've been reading the Freeper bastard York's articles on the subversive Freeper bastard NRO site since his 2003 return was released.

Oh, AntiGum? This is a recurring theme in politics, so I fail to see why your charge of 'hypocrisy' has merit.
Posted by: Raj || 04/15/2004 18:07 Comments || Top||

#12  Anonymous4052 - AntiGum obviously means thankfully in the sense that the former Seantor Heinz was a bastard Freeper Republican. I doubt we'd hear similar sentiments about Paul Wellstone.

Do I have that right, AntiGum?
Posted by: Raj || 04/15/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||

#13  As a US Senator, I would imagine the Kerry pays at most a small portion of his health care premium. Yet he had medical expenses of over $9000. Now these are medical expenses that are out of pocket, not those covered by insurance. So what did he spend $9k on? Botox treatments? Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Tibor || 04/15/2004 19:22 Comments || Top||

#14  Tibor, Dr. Frankenstein doesn't work cheap.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/15/2004 19:30 Comments || Top||

#15  LOL! R.C.

Perhaps Viagra? You know the ole 'war wound'.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/15/2004 19:32 Comments || Top||

#16  Malpractice Suit?
Posted by: Anonymous4153 || 04/15/2004 19:36 Comments || Top||

#17  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: mhw TROLL || 04/15/2004 20:21 Comments || Top||

#18  Not a big deal.

In November, we will have roast Kerry, hold the ketchup.
Posted by: badanov || 04/15/2004 21:21 Comments || Top||

#19  Heinz won't disclose because it will reveal her and her husband for what they are: incredibly rich elitists. That would make John's "workingman's hero" schtick an even harder sell than it already is.

Posted by: RMcLeod || 04/16/2004 0:48 Comments || Top||

#20  Apparently he didn't credit himself with paying any personal property tax. But he must have paid something since he has paid mortgage interest and the property taxes in Massachusetts are way higher than zero. I think he needs to file an amended return and he'll get a refund (of course as others have pointed out he'll have to pay a fine for underwitholding),
Posted by: mhw || 04/15/2004 20:21 Comments || Top||


Kerry Says Bush Manipulates Fear of Terror Attack
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 14:35 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Alternate headline: "KERRY DOWNPLAYS TERROR DANGERS"
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/15/2004 15:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Alternate headline "KERRY VOWS TO MATCH BUSH CAMPAIGN SPENDING"

Did not see anything about terror attack in the article. But this is Roosters.
Posted by: john || 04/15/2004 15:24 Comments || Top||

#3  "Home base for George Bush, as we saw to the nth degree in the press conference, is terror. Ask him a question, he's going to terror," Kerry said, referring to Bush's prime-time news conference on Tuesday.

Hey Kerry, you might not have noticed but we are AT WAR YOU DUMB FUCK! People are being killed and wounded (and not just a Kerry-special-get-me-out-of-vietnam-scratch either but real honest-to-god wounds) so that you and your terrorist-supporting wife dont have to face terrorists killers when you fly to france....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/15/2004 15:33 Comments || Top||

#4  John Kerry is not a dummy. He knows that he must get the issues off the WoT if he has an arena to play in that he can score points.

The thing that really burns my ass, and that CrazyFool has so elequintly said in his post is that Kerry stoops so low to achieve his goal at the expense of the nation. This is absolutely unacceptable. We have had no hits of consequence since 9-11 because of the dedication of many thousands of citizens and gov't people doing it 24/7. It hasn't occurred because terrorists weren't trying. This low down behavior is going to bite Kerry in the ass. If it doesn't we will all be in trouble, and that puts the blame squarely on the American people. We will see.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/15/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Before the attack on September 11 President Bush didn't pay enough attention to terrorists (according to JF Kerry). Now he is paying too much attention to terrorists. It must be great to be a Democrat. You get to have everything both ways. "Everybody knows Iraq has nothing to do with terror"? It's been a pre-determined agenda? I don't know, nor do I believe, that statement. I'm glad I'm not everybody. I'm glad I'm Somebody.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/15/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||

#6  Deacon -- it's even better than that! Every intelligence service in the world missed 9/11; every intelligence service in the world knew Saddam was working on WMD. In one case, they say Bush didn't do enough; in the other they say he did too much.

Being a Democrat means never having to say you were wrong.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/15/2004 19:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Did anyone see the pictures circulating around of the US soldiers uncovering the MIG 25? I still think it's intirely possible that the chemical and biological weapons, at least those not smuggled out, are burried somewhere.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/15/2004 20:50 Comments || Top||


Paul Berman tells Democrats to get off their asses already. MUST-READ
Posted by: growler || 04/15/2004 13:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Which Democrats does he think he's talking to exactly?
Posted by: someone || 04/15/2004 13:35 Comments || Top||

#2  I don't really know. They might not exist.
Posted by: growler || 04/15/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#3  "Somebody else will have to straighten out these confusions, then. I think it will have to be the Democrats — at least those Democrats who accept the anti-totalitarian logic. And why shouldn't they show a bit of leadership? After the Spanish election last month, America needed to reach out to the new Spanish leader, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, and his voters. Mr. Bush was in no position to do this, given that in November he had delivered a speech that was all-too characteristically insulting to the European left. Instead, it was Senator John Kerry who made a public appeal to Mr. Zapatero to keep troops in Iraq"

Ahhh the French-looking haughty gent who, by the way, served very briefly in Viet Nam will save our bacon by sucking up to the defeatist coward in Spain..... Simplisme!
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 13:49 Comments || Top||

#4  And how did that go???

I seem to recall they're still leaving.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/15/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#5  The real question is whether the Democratic Party is anything other than the party of opposition.
Posted by: Dave Schuler || 04/15/2004 14:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Democratic solidarity - Like Sen Miller of Ga, and Fmr Mayor of NYC Koch, who are supporting GWB?

My kind of Soladarity
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#7  Paul Berman is an idiot. What a waste of time reading that article was. Worthless.
Posted by: Kentucky Beef || 04/15/2004 14:17 Comments || Top||

#8  Reading Berman is like watching "The West Wing", mental masturbation for reality-challenged Clintonites.
Posted by: RWV || 04/15/2004 14:57 Comments || Top||

#9  He's far from an idiot. His book "Terror and Liberalsim" is fantastic.

He may be on the left, but that doesn't make him an idiot. In fact, he's one of the few on the left who talks openly about Islamic death cults and fascism. Some of the very things Bush should be saying, but isn't because it wouldn't play well.
Posted by: growler || 04/15/2004 15:06 Comments || Top||

#10  He's not an idiot, but he is a bit blinkered by his background. I have to give him this much credit - he managed to be one of the loudest and most enthusiastic backers of the war without getting sucked into defending every twitch and tremble of the White House. A comparison of Hitchens and Berman is illuminating.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 04/15/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#11  This op ed might resonate with the voters in the Dem primaries who were appalled by the Dean, Kucinich, Clark, Sharpton position on the War on Terror. The fact is however that many Dem voters liked that position.
Posted by: mhw || 04/15/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#12  Berman's "Liberalism and Terror" is a must read.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/15/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#13  "I think the internal divisions of the ANC are such that he can't get off the reservation but so far"

Last i heard they were helping to cordon Najaf. They will stay if there is a suitable UNSC resolution, and thats on the admin agenda anyway.

I think Bermans suggestion to Kerry is spot on, but I dont know if Kerry will follow it. Kerry should make Berman a principle foreign policy advisor right away.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/15/2004 17:00 Comments || Top||

#14  It worries me that a TeeVee show seems to have such pol power. I guess I'd better watch one or two... Hoping Starksy and Hutch make big comeback.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/15/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#15  I read "Terror and Liberalism" and found it thought-provoking but scatter-brained. There was too much diversion into obscure elaborations.

Later I heard him in a long interview and read several of his articles and found a lot more clarity and cogency. I think that he has now distilled a lot of thought into a very good argument. I found this particular article to be excellent.

He is writing for liberals, who in general have lost their ways over the last 40 years or so. He is giving them a very useful new perspective on how they ought to react to the global problem of Moslem terror.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 04/15/2004 22:29 Comments || Top||

#16  There seems to be helpful content in Berman's work that is in agreement with Joe Leiberman's policy ideas. If liberals digested and followed his recommendations they would do much less harm to the country than what Teddy Kennedy is spewing.

That said, I was annoyed by Berman taking such pains to blame Bush for the fact that a large percentage of Americans are too moronic or too indoctrinated to understand such unnuanced and obvious statements as "AQ is responsible for 9-11." He also gives credit to the DNC for the Neocon's democratization policy that Wolfowitz put into practice during Marco's fall.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 22:40 Comments || Top||


Bombed Israeli bus on display in U.S.
Bus No. 19, which was attacked by a Palestinian suicide bomber in Jerusalem in January, will be used in a rally in support of Israel in front of the U.S. Capitol next month. The group Christians for Israel USA says the event – which has the theme "Terror, a one way ticket" – will mark the first time a bombed Israeli bus will be on display in the U.S. The rally is scheduled for May 6, the National Day of Prayer. The Jan. 29 attack killed 11 and wounded dozens more. Christians for Israel USA says it marked the 140th "homicide bombing" and that thus far, 577 people have been killed and 3,543 injured in such terror attacks throughout Israel. "We hope this historical bus trip brings to light, from a biblical perspective, the horror that Israelis face on their homeland on a daily basis," Dr. James M. Hutchens, president of the group and a retired Army brigadier general, said in a statement. "Many of the everyday activities we take for granted here in the United States – even something as simple as riding a bus – are literally life-threatening activities in Israeli daily life. Both Christians and Jews must stand together with the Israelis in their fight for freedom and peace."

Speakers for the May 6 rally include Carrie Devorah, who is the sister of one of the passengers who died on Bus 19. Said the organization: "Christians for Israel will be taking Bus 19 on tour around the United States throughout the next year. We want to help Americans visualize the terror that Israelis face on a daily basis and to heighten the public conscience in regards to terror. Being able to come close to the bus, to look inside will remind people that this type of violence can occur anyplace, anytime, including right here in America. We hope it brings a refreshed understanding of the evil that the Jewish people and Israel face."

Christians for Israel USA say the reason for using the bus is fourfold:
"1. To show the unvarnished face of terrorism and the war we face in the 21st century;

"2. To show that those who would destroy Israel as a nation have formed an alliance against God;

"3. To focus on biblical solutions rather than political, military and economic stopgaps;

"4. To pray for the peace of Jerusalem."
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 04/15/2004 2:36:26 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  park it in front of CAIR's office
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 9:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank, Excellent idea!

Or in front of SKerry's campain headquarters. With a big sign 'Kerry's view of the future!'.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/15/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Excellent idea, Frank! They should have the truck hauling it suffer some "mechanical difficulties" as it's driving by their office. In DC that would be: 453 New Jersey Avenue, S.E.
Posted by: Dar || 04/15/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#4  I have a beter idea, make the people at CAIR ride in the bus on the back of a flatbed! Too much I guess but I like Frank's idea. Park it right out front with a sign: 'Religion of Peace!'
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 04/15/2004 11:48 Comments || Top||

#5  ACLU cease and desist law-suit filed in 5 4 3..
Posted by: raptor || 04/15/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#6  So nobody has any questions about why a Christian organization is taking such a keen interest in Israeli affairs? I'd love to think this was all a matter of brotherly love. Unfortunately the niggling concept of end times eschatology keeps surfacing whenever I see this stuff.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/15/2004 18:17 Comments || Top||

#7  . . . niggling concept of end times eschatology . . .

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Revelation 19:11-16

"Niggling." Hmm, not the word I’d use -- I mean, what if they’re right?
Posted by: cingold || 04/15/2004 18:25 Comments || Top||


NATIONAL DISGRACE, CONT’D
... Frankly, given her blatant conflicts of interest, she should never have been appointed in the first place. One stunning Gorelick conflict emerged at Tuesday’s public commission hearing: Attorney General John Ashcroft disclosed that in 1995, Gorelick - while deputy attorney general under Bill Clinton - wrote a memo ordering the FBI to separate counterintelligence work from criminal investigations. As Ashcroft put it, this memo - which went beyond what federal law required - erected a legal wall between the FBI and CIA, creating "the single greatest structural cause for September 11." So. How can someone who played a key role in the events under investigation possibly sit as one of the investigators?
Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, but then, I'm not a politician...
Indeed, Gorelick has a proper role to play with the commission - as a witness, grilled under oath about her own actions. And what was Commission Chairman Tom Kean’s response to calls for Gorelick’s dismissal or resignation? "People ought to stay out of our business," he huffed. Funny, but isn’t the commission meant to be conducting the people’s business?
Apparently not. Perhaps we should butt out entirely? We seem to be disturbing them...
As it turns out, the memo is just the tip of the iceberg concerning Gorelick’s questionable fitness as a member of the panel. That’s because she’s a litigation partner in one of Washington’s most high-powered Democratic law firms - Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering. And that firm represents Prince Mohammed al-Faisal al-Saud, a member of the Saudi royal family and director of a key Saudi financial agency, against a lawsuit filed by a coalition of 600 Sept. 11 families. The lawsuit, filed by Families United to Bankrupt Terrorism, seeks "to cut off the pipeline that fueled the al Qaeda terrorists" - a pipeline in which the high-paying client represented by Gorelick’s law firm reportedly played a central part. The prince is chairman of Dar al-Maal al-Islami (DMI), which boasts $1 billion in assets. One of its subsidiaries is the Al-Shamil Islamic Bank, whose directors include Osama bin Laden’s half-brother and his brother-in-law. According to congressional testimony last October by Jean-Charles Brisard, an international expert on terrorism financing, the Swiss-based DMI "is one of the central structures in Saudi Arabia’s financing of international Islam," and is rooted in the House of Saud’s "support for the radical Islamic cause." DMI, according to published reports, was a major shareholder of a Bahamian Islamic bank that was shut down after Washington tabbed it a centerpiece of Osama bin Laden’s financial network.
I feel so... not comforted.
Though Gorelick may not be litigating the lawsuit, as a partner she profits from her firm’s work for the Saudi prince. Gorelick, who might have become attorney general in an Al Gore administration, could get that same job if John Kerry wins in November. If all of this is not intolerable for a 9/11 commissioner, then there’s no such thing as conflict of interest. The blatant anti-Bush partisanship demonstrated by Richard Ben-Veniste and Bob Kerrey long ago brought disgrace upon the commission. Now this. What a sick, sad joke.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 04/15/2004 7:52:02 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Every time I see her name, I read it as Gore-lick. Augh! My eyes...must gouge out my eyes!
Posted by: AllahHateMe || 04/15/2004 10:52 Comments || Top||

#2  the Swiss-based DMI "is one of the central structures in Saudi Arabia’s financing of international Islam," and is rooted in the House of Saud’s "support for the radical Islamic cause."

Who would have thought the Saudies would use a Swiss bank. Why not an Egyption one?

But one thing is certain to me. Saudi cash has floated throughout our government. How many have to die so a snake like gore-lick can have a new Jag?
Posted by: Lucky || 04/15/2004 11:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Gore-lick

thanks for that image that will NEVER go away.
Posted by: B || 04/15/2004 11:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Get with the plan folks, as a committed Liberal, and loyal Democrat, Gorelick's intentions are all that matter. She intends to do a good gob on the comission. She intends to have no conflict-of-interest. What actually transpires is a result of right-wing conspiracies and sexism.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Also, as to the remark by Kean :
People ought to stay out of our business
We pay your salary with our taxes, jerk. It is our business You have the audacity to call yourself a Republican with that kind of attitude. Look, Defend Gorelick if you wish, but don't tell us to shut up, jerk!
Um . . . lets do it this way. Both Kean and Gorelick resign. Thompson takes Kean's spot as chairman and we are back to even, or closer to it!
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 13:44 Comments || Top||

#6  She also was also one of several people that formulated Don't Ask Don't Tell
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#7  That alleged Republican Kean is a shithead. I would love to smack him upside his head for that comment. Of course he's from NJ, so what do you expect? By the way Mr Kean, it's not YOUR business, it's MY F*CKING BUSINESS and it's the business of every AMERICAN, regardless of party or intelligence level. Prick.
Posted by: AllahHateMe || 04/15/2004 16:33 Comments || Top||

#8  it is Gore-lick...they just pronounce it the French way
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Conyers has a response.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#10  Re-coos not recuse?

Kean really has a wierd affectation.

Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 19:48 Comments || Top||

#11  SURPRISE -

Hugh Hewitt's Lefty "Smart Guy" Erwin Chemerinsky just suggested Gorelick resign because of the "appearance of impropriety" .

Gad zooks the sun might reverse course and rise in the West!
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 19:52 Comments || Top||


Congressional Best & Worst Tax-and-Spenders in 2003
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 02:53 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  wow - funny how the R's and D's are so consistent...and is that JF'nK in the worst Senator category? Why yes, it is....go figure
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 8:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank, I though the list of worst Republican Senators was interesting as well:


Lincoln Chafee (R.-R.I.)52 C- 45.68%
Olympia Snowe (R.-Maine) 51 C 52.26%
Susan Collins (R.-Maine) 50 C+ 63.62%
Arlen Specter (R.-Pa.) 48 C+ 65.47%
Ben Campbell (R.-Colo.) 47 B- 68.31%
George Voinovich (R.-Ohio) 46 B- 68.54%
Mike DeWine (R.-Ohio) 45 B- 68.85%
Norm Coleman (R.-Minn.) 44 B- 68.93%
Gordon Smith (R.-Ore.) 43 B- 69.18%
Ted Stevens (R.-Alaska) 42 B- 70.91%

Notice that the worst Republican is ranked 42 so there are 41 Democrats ranked below them. Also among the worst Republicans are the supposedly fiscally responsible Snowe and Voinovich. Why would Maine be electing tax-and-spend folks to the federal level, as their state doesn't seem to be on the pork receiving end for much of the wastefulness?
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 13:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Mostly, I see the usual suspects: New Orc, California, Oregon. Except:

What in the world is wrong with North Dakota?

To have your only Representative be the worst out of 435 and one of your Senators be the worst means something is wrong there.

Is it too cold there for people to think straight? Do they have problems punching the ballot wearing mittens?
Posted by: Jackal || 04/15/2004 15:36 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
UFOs believed sighted over Iran
RESIDENTS of northern Iran have reported a string of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) moving at low altitudes and emitting different colours, the state news agency IRNA reported today. A resident of the northwestern city of Tabriz, Saina Haghkish, was quoted as saying she saw one object flashing red, green and blue moving slowly from the east to west late yesterday. Identical sightings were also reported on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday over the northeastern town of Ghonbad-Kavous, situated on the opposite southeastern edge of the Caspian Sea. But astronomy professor Ajab Shirizadeh told IRNA that while the presence over the Islamic republic of extra-planetary craft could not be ruled out, the sightings could also be attributed to spy or communications satellites.
US or Israel? I’ll go Israel
9-tentacled Thermjabs from Arcturus XIX? Or just a routine field visitation by a member of the Council of Boskone?
Posted by: tipper || 04/15/2004 9:23:39 AM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the presence over the Islamic republic of extra-planetary craft could not be ruled out

Even the ETs aren't thrilled at the idea of the mullahs getting nukes.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/15/2004 10:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Probably those super secret Israeli Stealth planes with the Death Ray machine on board.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 04/15/2004 10:47 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm going with a predator drone.
Posted by: Charles || 04/15/2004 11:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Low flying satellites? More likely Predator dones, a spyplane, or someones been drinking their own giggle-juice.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/15/2004 11:25 Comments || Top||

#5  *cough* aurora *cough*
Posted by: mojo || 04/15/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#6  Recon planes, drone or otherwise, wouldn't have lights on over Badguyistan. Satellites shine with reflected sunlight, look like a moving star or planet. Aircraft lights are normally red and white, last time I looked. Maybe some bored students attached lights to a hot air balloon and launched it to stir things up. Either that, or it's a UFJ (Unidentified Flying Jinn).
Posted by: Steve || 04/15/2004 11:57 Comments || Top||

#7  Hale Boppers!

I don't think there is enough tin foil in Iran for everybody. Look for some Iranians to be upset at the mullahs. Thats a sure sign!
Posted by: Lucky || 04/15/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#8  TimberWind
/alcoa
Posted by: Abu Area 51 || 04/15/2004 12:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Quick. Toss the frisbee as high as you can. My digital camera is ready.
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 13:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Frisbees are passe. I use a 9 ft. Delta kite that's made of jet black ripstop. I use a set of battery operated Christmas tree lights to make pretty patterns on the kites' skin. It can be very freaky on a moonless night.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/15/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#11  Shipman!

You have to have a radio tuned to George Norry or Art bell to hear folks calling in about your creation, or there is no sport in it!

But what about the Iranian folks?
Posted by: Anonymous4052 || 04/15/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#12  memo from xsdskd=sozaShdf
to keorwajfjslaKFJsdl;k
RE: attempted landing in arid plateau between oil rich gulf and caviar rich sea

have attempted to get shipboard computer to sort out "moderates" and "radicals" among local rulers. Computer has crashed. Request replacement. Suggest avoiding this area.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/15/2004 17:09 Comments || Top||

#13  I guess it's time for your socks to get pulled up.

Evidently none of you even have a clue about the Lockheed X-22A Anti-Gravity Fighter Disk.

Evidence for the existence of the X-22A first came to light during Operation Desert Storm when American soldiers (and most likely Iraqi soldiers as well) made sightings of disc-shaped craft in the desert hovering near to U.S. officers. People also made claims of seeing these craft fire intense beams of light that removed any trace of what previously sat at the location, apart from a circular charcoal-like burn mark on the ground.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/15/2004 17:49 Comments || Top||

#14  Ok, since the Israelis already used the ol' "ignore-this-squadron-of-heavily-loaded-bombers-we're-just-a-regularly-scheduled-civilian-flight" trick to take out Osirak, my guess is that we have some bright boys paving the ground for the trick we will use to take out Iran's nukes.

"What bomber ? You mean that thing that only *looks* like a B-52 loaded with JDAMs ? Just a UFO, no worries..."
Posted by: Carl in N.H || 04/15/2004 19:53 Comments || Top||

#15  Cool! My good friend Xanthorpe got the message to Marvin! He's very angry now . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/15/2004 22:18 Comments || Top||

#16  Either that, or the aliens are visiting Iran like we visit Africa on those safaris . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 04/15/2004 22:19 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
World War II Memorial to Open Last Week of April
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 16:54 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


Afghanistan/South Asia
Critics: Pakistani Schools Help Breed Terrorism (Gasp!)
Even the title makes me laugh. Are we ahead of the curve here at R-Burg or what?
Graduation from a madrassa in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, requires memorization of 6,666 verses from the Quran, the Muslim holy book, and some say these strict teachings are fanning the flames of terrorism.
Ummm.... I’m not exactly religious but why 6,666? Creepy.
There are anywhere between 10,000 and 70,000 such schools in Pakistan, most funded by private donations — much of that money coming from outside the country.
Which means from Saudi Arabia or possibly Jordan.
Supporters say the rote memorization sharpens the minds of future Islamic scholars.
Uh-huh.
And without madrasas, they say, these children would get no education at all.
There may be a valid point to that, but it’s a little like the Nazi Germans saying "Without National Socialist training these Ukranain children would have no education at all!" Under the circumstances maybe it would be better if little Ramine couldn’t read Arabic....
There is no furniture here; no pencils, computers or magazines. Science, math and English aren’t taught ... a world with its own rules behind a wire cage, rules made by the mullahs, not regulated by the state.
Private education I tell ya - it’s a scam!
It is a world where Usama bin Laden is openly proclaimed to be a hero by the men in charge.
France? Berkeley? Oh.... Pakistan.
"It is not only the madrasas," said Mullah Abdul Rasheed Ghazi. "It is the whole of Pakistan. If you have a poll they would say that Usama bin Laden is our hero, and that Bush is our enemy."
True, assuming the people you intereviewed had heard of either of them. It’s really, really rural there.
Calls for reform have come not just from the United States, but also from neighboring Afghanistan, whose leaders blame the madrassas for turning out Taliban extremists.
Also true.... although its kind of hard to blame the Pakistanese for wanting a stable, friendly government on their northern boarder when they have a hostile one to the east. They don’t grow naturally up there, either.
Islamic parties in Pakistan have rejected attempts to broaden curriculum as American interference. Most clerics have refused offers of financial aid from the Pakistani government to register their schools or to open up a one-book world.
Where will the get the next generation of glorious shahids from if they do?
Posted by: Secret Master || 04/15/2004 4:18:24 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  While I'm not to keen on forcing them to do things that they just don't want to do, I would serve up only one warning: keep your poisonous bullshit to yourselves. Keep on proclaiming that Americans are your "enemies" and keep on trying to kill us, and I will have no objections to seeing you and your kind incinerated. Everywhere.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 04/15/2004 16:40 Comments || Top||

#2  im thinking the 6666666 thing is approximater
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 04/15/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Supporters say the rote memorization sharpens the minds of future Islamic scholars.

Everybody knows that rote memorization is a vital component of critical thinking and analytical skills.

There is no furniture here; no pencils, computers or magazines. Science, math and English aren’t taught ... a world with its own rules behind a wire cage, rules made by the mullahs, not regulated by the state.

Another compelling argument for accreditation and academic testing standards.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/15/2004 17:36 Comments || Top||

#4 
Pakistani Schools Help Breed Terrorism
Ya' think?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/15/2004 18:43 Comments || Top||

#5  It's time to force accreditation on these madrassas. Local governments must take charge immediately, and certify both the integrity and piety of these schools, and their teachers. Every teacher must prove their absolute impeccible qualifications to teach the Quran by reciting it in its entirety, at one sitting, backward, without making a mistake. Those who fail will no longer be allowed to teach. To guarantee that failed candidates don't sneak out and try to teach in underground, unlicensed madrasses not approved by the government, their tongues will be cut out.





All the way down to their toes.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/15/2004 21:36 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Air America drops a wing
First this statement, yesterday -
Statement of Evan Cohen, Chairman of Air America Radio:
"Air America Radio is temporarily unable to be heard on WNTD in Chicago and KBLA in Los Angeles, but Chicago and Los Angeles listeners can still hear our broadcast on the web at airamericaradio.com and on XM Satellite Radio (channel 167).

"MultiCultural Radio Broadcasting’s conduct in this matter has been disgraceful. To shut off a broadcast that listeners rely on without warning and in the middle of discussions is the height of irresponsibility and a slap in the face of the media industry. In addition, it is a clear violation of their contractual obligations, and we are seeking legal remedies against them in court."


Ooooh! Listeners RELY on this stuff! And he’s insulted the entire MEDIA INDUSTRY!!! (I didn’t think that was possible, but hey...)

Then today, an unsigned rant on the "Sludge Report" (clever, huh? not.)-

Here’s what really happened:

This Liu-ser was ripping off our boss Evan Cohen big time (he can’t do that, that’s our job). Evan found out about it and he stopped payment on a check to keep Liu-cifer from ripping him off even more. You can touch Evan for the occasional meal or drinks but a million bucks is crossing the line. And if we ever get low on cash, we can always call Barbra Streisand. Or any of theBaldwins. Except Stephen.

So we got screwed, Liu’d, and tattooed. How Liu can you get? In Liu of payment. Liu’d and lascivious behavior. These write themselves. What we’re getting at is that we hate him.

So now everyone’s saying we’re going down the dumper in Chicago and Los Angeles, but what they don’t tell you is that we’re still on in Portland. And we OWN Portland. And let’s not forget Riverside and Plattsburgh. And New York. And streaming on the internet. And XM. And Sirius. Actually we’re fine.
Sure you are. Uh huh. Maybe you should, y’know, actually pay your bills?Or, failing that, buy your own freakin’ transmitter.

Deadbeats.
Posted by: Dr. Evil || 04/15/2004 12:54:35 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How is anyone supposed to take these people seriously when they lace their commentary with fourth grade name calling? This plane can't crash & burn fast enough, freakin' mental midgets.
Posted by: Raj || 04/15/2004 16:33 Comments || Top||

#2  maybe Janeane could turn tricks - that'll bring in another $16 - $18 bucks a week
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 16:42 Comments || Top||

#3  "MultiCultural Radio Broadcasting’s conduct in this matter has been disgraceful. To shut off a broadcast that listeners rely on without warning and in the middle of discussions is the height of irresponsibility and a slap in the face of the media industry


business is business--pay up or shut up!
slap on the face of the media industry..now that is funny.
Posted by: Dan || 04/15/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#4  im thinking they shoulda call it flyin tiger radio its a luckyer name
Posted by: HalfEmpty || 04/15/2004 17:40 Comments || Top||

#5  Can you smell the arrogance-"...a broadcast that listeners rely on..."?Whatever did those poor listeners do until that long ago day when AAR first started broadcasting?

Don't know who is right/wrong between AAR and MCRB,but a couple of things stand out.1)AAR doesn't look like it did its homework on who they were dealing with.2)AAR looks to have signed up w/most cash-strapped stations they could find-ie,cheapest.3)Instead of starting small w/1 medium station,maturing and then expanding,AAR went w/"throw it on the wall and we'll see what sticks" approach.4)AAR will have at least a year before it faces real financial pressure.Don't forget election this year,and a ton of political ads will be bought,enough money to keep going.Maybe Demo party won't buy ads,but you can bet the MoveOn-type org.'s will.
Posted by: Stephen || 04/15/2004 17:40 Comments || Top||

#6  there alot of stuff
going on with the show but
glad half at the blog

alway good have company their to do hiaku with.
Posted by: muck4doo || 04/15/2004 17:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Hey Mucky, is "hiaku" some sort of illiterate, non-sensical version of "haiku?"

Silly Muck 4 doo
can not even spell "haiku"
he can't write either.
Posted by: Tibor || 04/15/2004 19:17 Comments || Top||

#8  Lets be realistic, they have the business model of an infomercial and they are being treated like one.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/15/2004 19:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Lesee... two of AAR's biggest markets in which in they'll probably be back on the air... major media coverage... most of blogdom talking about it... If'n I wasn't medicated :), I'd say it was all a publicity stunt.
Posted by: Pappy || 04/15/2004 19:43 Comments || Top||

#10  Ignore them and they will go away.
Posted by: Nero || 04/15/2004 22:20 Comments || Top||

#11  The Smoking Gun has the complaint.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 04/15/2004 22:28 Comments || Top||

#12  maybe Janeane could turn tricks - that'll bring in another $16 - $18 bucks a week

BAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFF!

Well that's one way to undrink a bunch of Cuba Libres!
Posted by: eLarson || 04/16/2004 2:40 Comments || Top||

#13  Actually would the cats' or dogs' owners be paying the 16 - 18 bucks? I guess they'd have to...
Posted by: eLarson || 04/16/2004 2:42 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Nepali former PM held in protest 
Nepali police detained about 700 anti-king protesters including a former prime minister on Thursday in a crackdown on banned pro-democracy rallies. The government outlawed public gatherings of five or more people in Kathmandu last week after mainstream political parties stepped up protests against King Gyanendra, demanding he fire a royalist cabinet and appoint a multi-party government. But the ban has not stopped the protests. "Down with absolute monarchy," shouted activists as they waved flags, some with communist hammer and sickle signs.
These are the less goofy but equally bloodthirsty communists; the Maoists are in the countryside.
Although absolute monarchy was officially ended in 1990, King Gyanendra effectively holds all power. He replaced an elected prime minister with his own appointee in 2002 and delayed polls due that year. The king said last month he hoped elections could be held by April next year but analysts say a fair vote is impossible without a multi-party government and peace with the Maoists fighting to replace the monarchy with a communist state. The street protests are the latest crisis to hit the impoverished country. "We'll shed blood for democracy," said Janu Ghimire, as she joined protesters shielding former prime minister Girija Prasad Koirala and other rally leaders. "Is this democracy?" she asked. "Why can't five people meet together?" Police set up a barbed wire barricade on a road leading to the king's sprawling palace and Koirala was hauled into a van as he led about 1,000 protesters from a lane into a street close to the palace. Koirala's centrist Nepali Congress party is one of five parties behind the protests against the monarchy.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/15/2004 11:55:37 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Didn't one of the Royals shoot up the family a couple years back?
Posted by: Kentucky Beef || 04/15/2004 14:29 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Lileks: "Why No Movie of 9-11?"
This will sound crass, but bear with me.

9/11 would make a hell of a movie.

It’s the most dramatic day of modern times. The story lines are clear; it writes itself. You don’t have to make up heroic characters; every minute has a dozen. No Hollywood falsities need intrude – no star-crossed lovers, no cheerful archetypes, no swelling music (take a cue from “A Night to Remember,” which didn’t introduce an orchestral score until halfway through, to great effect.) Just tell the story as it happened that day, and people would cram the theaters by the millions. Just like they went to see “The Passion.” And with the same emotions, I’d bet: from the opening moments the audience would have the same sick clot in their stomachs, the same old throb of dread we all felt during “Schindler’s List” and “Saving Private Ryan.” This wasn’t pleasant, but it was important to see it, and know.

It doesn’t demean the day to make a movie of it, anymore than it would be an insult to write a novel about the events. Movies are how we tell stories; they’re the means by which the culture coalesces around certain ideas, or learns which ideas they should coalesce around.

And that’s the problem. I wonder whether Hollywood execs shy from a 9/11 movie because they think it might send the wrong message.

It would anger people anew, and we’re supposed to be past that. It would remind us what was done to us instead of rubbing out noses in what we do to others – I mean, unless you have a character in the second tower watching the plane approaching and saying “My God, this is payback for supporting Israel!” it’s going to come across as simplistic nonsense that denies the reality in the West Bank, okay? It would have to tread lightly when it came to the President, because even though we all knew that he wet his pants and ran to hide, we’d have to pretend and do scenes in Air Force One where he’s taking charge instead of crying help mommy to Dick Cheney, right? I mean the idiots in flyover people believe that stuff, and you’d have to give it to them or they write letters with envelopes that have these little pre-printed return address stickers with flags up in the corner. Seriously. Little flag stickers. Anyway, we would have to show Arab males as the bad guys, and that’s not worth the grief; you want to answer the phone when CAIR sees the dailies of the guys slitting the stewardess’ throats? And here’s the big one: if we make a patriotic movie during Bush’s term, well, it doesn’t help the cause, you know. People liked Bush after 9/11. Why remind them of that? Plus, you can just kiss off the European markets, period.

Richard Clarke’s book is available? Here’s a blank check. Option that sucker.

It’s like it's 1943, and Hollywood turns down a Pearl Harbor movie in favor of the gripping account of a Washington bureaucrat who warned FDR that the oil embargo would needlessly anger Japan. The attack on Hawaii would take up five minutes – and even then it would be a shot of the hero listening to the radio with an expression of stoic anguish. If only they'd listened.

I think people would like these stories to be told, but we can’t have war movies anymore unless it’s an old war, or one that happened in some place with an oversupply of consonants. It’s not that Hollywood is unpatriotic or wishes America to lose; they’d bristle at the charge. But they want Bush to lose first and foremost, and after that we’ll see what happens. To make a movie about The War admits that there is a war, and sometimes I think a third of the country rejects this notion out of hand. We’re only at war because Bush made us go to war! or we’re only at war because we don’t let Interpol handle it! or some such delusion. I swear: there are people who see the conflict in such narrow terms that if Bush on 9/1 had announced he was forcing Israel back to pre-67 borders, and the hijackers had heard the news in the cockpit, they would have hit the autopilot and let the planes resume their original course.

These are usually the people who think we are at war with a specific group with a hyphenated name, not an idea. These are often the people who realize that these hyphenated foes reside in a particular part of the world in which Iraq is literally the epicenter, and they cannot see the advantage to going there and staying there. Maybe we’re engaged in something larger than the vagaries of the election cycle, something that deserves to be worked through in the most popular storytelling idiom of our time.
Posted by: Steve || 04/15/2004 10:25:54 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As I pointed out on my site, there was a movie about the 1993 WTC attack: Path to Paradise. HBO movie, available on VHS. Pretty good for a TV movie; starts with Kahane's assassination and runs to the arrest of Yussef. There's a prescient "we'll be back to knock it down" moment at the end.

Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/15/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#2  DC 9-11: Time of Crisis was a Showtime movie of the events. It was all from the President and his staff's point of view, came off more as a documentary than an actual movie, but it was pretty good which is probably why the left that noticed it, villify it.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/15/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Im sure there will be one... starring Leonardo DeCapuchino and Kate Winslett. Of course Celine Dion will sing the theme.

"Don't you give up, you are going to die an old woman, in a warm bed, surrounded by your children, crapping in a plactic bag.", "Oh Jack, Im soo cold."
Posted by: JackAssFestival || 04/15/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Let me tell y'all a story.
I'm a budding screenwriter - haven't sold anything yet, but getting closer every day. Had an dea couple of months back for a screenplay called Thunder Run - about the charge into Baghdad. Figured it had EVERYTHING. Typed up a synopsis - straight from the actual AAR, which is on-line - and sent it to my agent, who was 110% in favor of it.
A couple weeks later this is the call I get: Forget it. Nobody wants to do a WoT movie right now because they are basically terrified that they will make a movie about a US victory and there will be some kind of horrible reversal that will leave them with an unreleasable film. If I want to write a Rambo-like fantasy, they'll look at that - but forget anything realistic.
BTW, kiss anything about 9/11 goodbye as well - the studios are convinced that the Three Thousand Families will insist on final approval of the script and story, and there is no way they'll be able to say no without looking bad.
The bottom line seems to be that there is no actual bias against such a movie because of the subject, but rather the imponderables that could knock it out of the game.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 04/15/2004 13:06 Comments || Top||

#5  I've always thought there should be two. #1 is about the WTC, from ten minutes before the first crash to the second collapse. Tell the whole event in real time, no musical score, no stock footage. Include Rick Rescorla, the red bandanna man, the Naudet brothers.

#2 is Flight 93. 'Nuff said.

Mr. Kozlowski, feel free to pick these up and run with 'em.
Posted by: Mike || 04/15/2004 15:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Mike K. Kick ass and take names latter. I wish you great success. Clear headed good vs bad. Take that and run. For every PC bread and butter piece of blather write ten anti PC truth bombs.

Quality writers! Like fine brandy. Some time their will be a grown-up rich enough to put together a studio thats unafraid to make entertainment that isn't afraid!!!! Like Mel Gibson!!!!!!
Posted by: Lucky || 04/16/2004 0:07 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
South Africa: Democracy out, Marxists in
What’s black and white and RED all over? South Africa, of course.
South Africans went to the polls Wednesday -- but the vote -- which continues to trickle in, may hand the ANC one party rule and be the beginning of the end for consitutional democracy. There is no doubt the ANC -- the African National Congress -- will win handlily and may surpass the 67 percent vote, giving their parliamentary majority the right to change the constitution at whim. The ANC, a long time Marxist group once clandestinely supported by the Soviet Union, has firmly consoldiated power and may win all nine of the country’s provinces...

According to the New York Times, as many as 18 million South Africans voted in the polls Wednesday to choose a new parliament and provincial legislatures. The final tally is not expected before Friday. The outcome, however is not in doubt, the Times reported, noting that pre-election polls forecast that the African National Congress could sweep as many as seven in 10 votes throughout South Africa, potentially exceeding the record 66 percent the party won in 1999. The A.N.C. has ruled South Africa since its first democratic leader, Nelson Mandela, led the party to victory in 1994.
Nice sentence structure there. See how they hijack the term "democratic leader" and try to attach it to Mandela? Reading that sentence one time, it seems as if Mandela is "democratic", yet reading it a second time reveals that Mandela led the ANC party to power!

Q: How can he be a "democratic leader" and a Marxist at the same time?
A: He can’t. Newsmax is usually better than this.

President Thabo Mbeki is moving the country away from democracy -- and critics say he is following in the footisteps (sic) of neighboring Zimbabwe where President Robert Mugabe has used the democratic process to establish one party rule and a dictatorship. Last week, Mr. Mbeki ridiculed "the fictional threat of a one-party state," calling it the creation of a white minority whose survival depends on ginning up opposition to what he called the A.N.C.’s multiracial coalition.
As usual, an accusation of racism is used to deflect the real issue here. South Africa is voting themselves into communism. Let them discover that the evils of apartheid pale in comparison to what they can expect from the communists.
Posted by: Unmutual || 04/15/2004 10:03:17 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We should use this as a reminder to ourselves that there are plenty of dead and brain-dead people who will be voting in Nov. With this type of assistance, the Teamsters just might be able to squeak in another JFK!

Just because Kerry can't do it the good ol' fashion democratic way, doesn't mean he can't do it.
Posted by: B || 04/15/2004 10:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Two thoughts: (1) I didn't think South Africa could accelerate their race into the third world. I was wrong, they found a way. (2) When Marxism makes everything far worse, how will they spin it to blame the west?

There is a good chance that a huge mistake that has zero connections to the outside world could be good for South Africa in the long run as it may force them to actually take responsibility for their actions past, present, and future. With responsibility comes the first steps of civilization rather than the veneer left behind by the Europeans.
Posted by: ruprecht || 04/15/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||

#3  ruprecht - good point. Let's just hope that it doesn't take thousands of years to get there.
Posted by: B || 04/15/2004 11:49 Comments || Top||

#4  My only problem with the current vote in South Africa are the couple of dozen good friends I have in that country that now have every reason to HAVE to leave, and no place to go... Guess I'd better start issuing some invitations. I suggest that if any of you have any connections there with anyone who isn't a member of the ANC, encourage them to leave while they still can. It's going to get even darker in the bottom half of the "dark continent".
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/15/2004 12:00 Comments || Top||

#5  IIUC Mbeki has NOT been following Marxist policies since his first election in 1999(?).
Mandela DID lead South Africa through a multiparty election, and established a state that follows legal norms, including property rights. This is South Africas third multiparty election since the end of apartheid.

Now it is possible that Mbeki aims at one party state - not ALL one party states are Marxist, for crying out loud. And if I were South African I would not vote for him - his statements on HIV have been shear foolishness, and the ANC has failed to deal with crime, and has been less than successful on economic development.

BTW, the New National Party, the heir to the old apartheid National Party, has reinvented itself as a party for the mixed race in the Western Cape, and is in alliance with the ANC. The real opposition to the ANC comes from the Democratic Alliance, the heir to the old white liberal opposition, and from various black parties.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/15/2004 12:41 Comments || Top||

#6  From the Guardian, with about 60% of the ballots counted: ANC, ~ 70%, Democratic Alliance, ~ 14%, New National Party, ~ 2%. I assume the balance is split amongst all the other parties in the election.

Mandela (IMHO) was a genuinely decent man who managed to keep SA from exploding. Mbeki is sort of a goof, but he's managed to keep the country moving forward well enough. I think the internal divisions of the ANC are such that he can't get off the reservation but so far. Moving SA to a one-party state (Red or otherwise, as LH notes) would be a really bad idea, as it would ruin the new reputation SA has built as a regional power-broker. And Mbeki has enough to do with AIDS, the economy, unemployment, etc.

I have some reasonable hopes for SA based on what they've managed to avoid in the time since the end of apartheid. Past return is no guarantee of future performance, of course.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/15/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#7  Well it looks like 70% of South Africans are stupid. So they've elected a Marxist government once again. Well, that's unfortunate. I've got no problem with their choice, as long as they're allowed to vote again in four years (or whatever the election cycle time period is in S.A.). If the A.N.C. somehow takes away free elections, then they join the shit list along with other Marxist paradises like Cuba. But as long as they continue to hold free and fair elections, it's okay with me (I don't have to live there)
Posted by: Kentucky Beef || 04/15/2004 15:24 Comments || Top||

#8  I think the internal divisions of the ANC are such that he can't get off the reservation but so far

My impression is that Mbeki, at least a couple of years ago, was contemplating using Black power rhetoric to move the ANC away from Marxism. See the leading white elements within the ANC are the old South African Communist Party - by emphasizing black power he both maintains legitimacy while moving away from socialism, and undercuts the element in the ANC most hostile to a capitalist line. SA is different from Zimababwe in this respect - AFAIK Rhodesia had no white leftist element equivalent to South African Communists.

OTOH Im not sure what the status of this is recently. It does point out that the mess in Zimbabwe is by its nature VERY dangerous to SA democracy - Mbeki cant go with the opposition to Mugabe without endangering much of his base, but if he supports Mugabe he looks dangerously undemocractic, and may radicalize his own opposition - especially Buthelezi.

Good news - Democratic Alliance has continued its rise, and the hacks of the NNP seem to be in terminal decline.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/15/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#9  SOB! Now you tell me. Past return is no guarantee of future performance, of course.
Posted by: Shipman || 04/15/2004 19:24 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
West blasted over Iraq treasures
The man in charge of recovering treasures looted from Baghdad’s museum a year ago has criticised Western governments for failing to co-operate. Matthew Bogdanos said 4,500 artefacts had been recovered so far, but 8,000 works - including some of the most valuable - were still missing. The Interpol, France, Switzerland and Dubai had all failed to respond, he told the BBC’s Today programme.
Surprise Surprise
The museum was looted last April, in the days after Saddam Hussein’s fall. Initial fears that 170,000 artefacts had been stolen proved unfounded. The US appointed a 13-member team with military, immigration and customs personnel to recover the stolen goods. Colonel Bogdanos, the team’s head, said on Tuesday he could not find the words to express his anger at international law enforcement agencies for failing to help trace "some of the most priceless artefacts known to mankind". "I cannot seem to get the international community - apart from the UK, Italy, Jordan, Kuwait and the US - interested in participating," he said.
What, no France or Germany?
Maybe this is a new Artefacts For Oil, scandal

"I can’t seem to convince them... that this is a worldwide epidemic problem that needs immediate resolution." Colonel Bogdanos said although the Interpol would be an ideal candidate to facilitate a global investigation, it was "unwilling or unable" to do so. He added that the recovery of the Iraqi artefacts would be left to "sheer luck", unless more governments were ready to devote resources and personnel. Investigators believe some objects were stolen to order and smuggled out of the country.
And the order sheets were written in impeccable French
Thousands of valuable bead-shaped seals were stolen from locked, concealed store rooms. Other important archaeological sites were also ransacked across Iraq, historically known as Mesopotamia and seen as the birthplace of modern civilisation.
Posted by: tipper || 04/15/2004 4:20:22 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How did that happen?
I only pressed the button once, but there is an ant-virus scan on my computer being run at present.
Please delete one, Fred.
Posted by: tipper || 04/15/2004 4:24 Comments || Top||

#2  did they look on Chirac's mantle?
Posted by: B || 04/15/2004 9:12 Comments || Top||

#3  I heard an interview with Col. Bogdanos, and he is due to rotate out of Iraq. One he's gone, there's no. body. else. Nada. The rest of the missing artwork will go un-looked for.
Posted by: Anonymous4119 || 04/15/2004 9:56 Comments || Top||

#4  We'll put that in our list of priorities... right after drinking water, reliable electricity, public education, local representative government...parking meters, comfy bus stop benches, and baby duck sanctuaries.
Posted by: Dar || 04/15/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#5  Start with the homes and safe deposit boxes of the Ba'athists who looted the museum. Then work your way around the art world -- private collectors, auction houses, etc. Assemble the intel and build the links.

Golly gee, isn't this what Interpol is for? Why the pissing and moaning complaint to us? The LLL wants a more vigorous law-enforcement effort, here's the perfect place to start.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/15/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#6  It will never cease to amaze me how well the LLLs play the blame game.

Everyone knows it was Saddam's goons and the Ba'athists who ransacked the place, yet it's everyone else's job to clean up the mess and to take the blame.
Posted by: Unmutual || 04/15/2004 12:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Maybe there could be an amnesty day. A "don't ask don't tell" moment. Everybody who has treasure can return it without any charges.
Posted by: Lucky || 04/15/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Lucky, that was the policy that Matthew Bogdanos used to recover many of the artifacts from the museum. He is a fantastic man; I have never seen a Jarhead anthropologist before but he is top notch.

The remaining missing treasures are from the crate of small items that professional thieves with inside knowledge walked through a number of undisturbed basement rooms and past numerous undisturbed cabinets to get to. Bogdanos is saying that he would need help from all EU members, the likeliest market, in order to track the items back from the supply side to the Baathist thugs at the other end of the transactions.

These items would have been easy to get out of the country and were minor enough items that they could have been sold without going through a specialist.

I saw some National Geographic special where they tracked back some of the treasures including renting a submersible pump to clear water from around the bank vault where the expensive stuff was found.
Posted by: Super Hose || 04/15/2004 16:27 Comments || Top||

#9  He sounds like a standup guy doing a tough job our purported "allies" have stonewalled on. Keep the outrage!
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||

#10  Thnkx Hoserman!
Posted by: Lucky || 04/15/2004 23:49 Comments || Top||


Unwelcome U.N.
As violence flairs in Iraq, so does Washington discussion over the United Nations role in Iraq. Speaking to reporters in New Hampshire on April 12, Senator John Kerry suggested U.N. Special Envoy Lakhdar Brahimi as a possible success to Coalition Provisional Authority administrator L. Paul Bremer. Writing in the April 13 Washington Post, Kerry declared, "Moving forward, the administration must make the United Nations a full partner responsible for developing Iraq’s transition to a new constitution and government." Prominent Senators Robert Byrd and Joseph Biden called late last week for the U.S. to cede political authority to the U.N. On April 8, Secretary of State Colin Powell even called the U.N. a "Coalition partner." Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Richard Lugar previously argued that legitimacy in Iraq could only be tied to a U.N. resolution. The problem is what denotes legitimacy on the Foggy Bottom and Capitol Hill cocktail circuit and what Iraqis see as legitimate are two very separate things.

During the Saddam Hussein’s near quarter century in power, the Iraqi government used its media monopoly to shape public opinion. Iraqis saw only what Saddam wanted them to see and heard only what the Iraqi government wanted them to hear. Etched into ordinary Iraqis’ perceptions of the United Nations were comments Secretary-General Kofi Annan made at a February 24, 1998, press conference. "Can I trust Saddam Hussein? I think I can do business with him," Annan stated. Iraqi television repeatedly rebroadcast this clip, framed as an implicit endorsement of the Iraqi leader.

As violence ignited last week, U.N. Special Envoy Lakhdar Brahimi returned to Baghdad. According to John Negroponte, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Brahimi’s mission was among "the highest U.S. policy priorities involving the U.N." Perhaps Brahimi is welcome in New York or Kabul, but he is not in Baghdad. How do Iraqis view Brahimi? Kurds express disdain for Brahimi. "All we need is another Arab nationalist," one Kurdish human-rights worker said. "Throughout the Oil-for-Food program, the U.N. seemed more concerned with giving Palestinians jobs than giving Iraqis medicine," a physician in the Kurdish city of Sulaymaniyah said. "As undersecretary of the Arab League between 1984 and 1991, Brahimi stood by as Saddam Hussein conducted an "Arabization" campaign to drive Iraqi Kurds from Kirkuk and surrounding villages. Brahimi did nothing as the Iraqi government dropped chemical weapons on Halabja, killing 5,000 civilians.

Mainstream Shia hold Brahimi in ill regard. "We don’t like Bremer, but Brahimi would be even worse," said a Baghdad Shia merchant with strong business ties throughout southern Iraq. Brahimi, who three months after the end of the first Gulf War left the Arab League to become Algeria’s foreign minister, used neither bully pulpit to intervene in the massacre of tens of thousands of Iraqi Shia in the aftermath of the Gulf War. As the new Iraqi government uncovers dozens of mass graves throughout the country, pictures of Brahimi hugging Tariq Aziz, a former deputy prime minister expected to face charges of crimes against humanity, circulate widely in Iraq, sold along with other photographs and memorabilia of the former regime in the Mustansiriyah market of Baghdad.

Any moral standing the U.N. possessed ended soon after U.N. weapons inspectors returned to Iraq. On January 25, 2003, 29-year-old Adnan Abdul Karim Enad jumped into a U.N. inspector’s jeep, screaming "Save me! Save me!" As television cameras rolled, U.N. security guards dragged him from the vehicle and handed him to Iraqi soldiers. The same day, an Iraqi government worker forced his way into the U.N. compound, pleading for protection. U.N. guards evicted him. Hans Blix, then chief weapons inspector in Iraq, criticized the Iraqi asylum seekers, saying they should find "more elegant ways" of approaching U.N. staff. They cannot. Both men apparently disappeared in Iraqi custody, likely executed soon after Blix’s team turned them over to their persecutors. Rather than show remorse, Blix suggested to the Danish daily Jyllands Posten on April 7, 2004, that Iraqis were better off under Saddam. With telephone lines open and long-time exiles returning to see their families, the incidents of that day, not broadcast on Iraqi television, have become known. To Iraqis, the U.N. represents moral ineptitude. "They investigated the U.N. workers who allowed the massacre at Srebrenica. How come they don’t hold accountable those who handed that poor boy to his death?" one Shia Iraqi asked as we sat in Baghdad living room.

Iraqis are vociferous readers as they compensate for three decades of information quarantine. The 170 newspapers established after liberation not only cover the present, but also explore the past. Four months ago, al-Mada published oil-ministry documents which showed that Saddam’s regime systematically bribed officials, activists, and journalists from 46 countries in exchange for political support. Among those receiving payoffs was Benon Sevan, director of the U.N.’s Oil-for-Food program. "While we were selling our possessions to make ends meet, U.N. officials were making millions off our sweat," one Baghdad municipal councilman told me last February. Iraqis describe U.N. workers under Saddam’s regime as "little kings" and still, four years after my first trip to Iraq, locals still refer to Arab U.N. workers as the "Egyptian and Sudanese mafia."

While L. Paul Bremer, Coalition Provisional Authority administrator, expressed outrage over the bombing of Iraq’s U.N. compound last August, Iraqi reaction was more subdued. "It was an inside job," a Shia doctor insisted as we sat in a restaurant the next day. The U.N. had not only refused Coalition protection but had also retained guards employed under the former regime. "Didn’t they know that their guards reported to the Baathists?," the doctor said. Iraqis watched in disgust as the U.N. subsequently fled to Jordan. "They reward terrorism," a Sunni engineer told me. "And, they’re taking the SUVs we paid for [with Oil-for-Food money], a Kurdish politician added. A March 3, 2004, internal U.N. report placed blame squarely on shortcomings among U.N. personnel.

Some Iraqis would welcome a U.N. presence. On April 6, the Arabic satellite channel al Jazeera said that Islamists and militants fighting in Fallujah demanded U.N. involvement. While violence against Americans has consequence, they understand that the U.N. symbolizes weakness. Banners in the largely Islamist town of al-Amarah call for greater U.N. involvement among demands for a sharia-based constitution. Only with U.N. involvement could Islamists bypass the democratic will and involve Iran and Saudi Arabia in Iraqi affairs.

United Nations involvement will hamper, not help. Militant Islamists and remnants of Saddam’s regime interpret our turn to the U.N. as sign of weakness, while Iraqi democrats see the U.N. role as a sign of abandonment. Both associate the U.N. with corruption. Ironically, while administration officials and senators seek greater U.N. involvement to pacify Iraqis, their calls have the opposite effect. Washington’s hand-wringing is a sign of weakness welcomed only by those we fight.
Posted by: tipper || 04/15/2004 3:58:03 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Some Iraqis would welcome a U.N. presence. On April 6, the Arabic satellite channel al Jazeera said that Islamists and militants fighting in Fallujah demanded U.N. involvement

is that just too funny or what?
Posted by: B || 04/15/2004 9:15 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd forgotten Blix's disdain and back turned to those asylum-seekers - what an arrogant little incompetent man. That needs to be brought up every time he's interviewed to slam the Coalition. Think Katie Couric will pull her head out long enough to do it? Me neither
Posted by: Frank G || 04/15/2004 9:21 Comments || Top||



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