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2004-04-15 Terror Networks
Arafat Bin Laden Tape offers Hudna to the really gullible Europe
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Posted by Super Hose 2004-04-15 2:31:58 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Wow! A truce for Europe. They really ought to jump on this. Just look at how well that "truce" worked out for Spain.
Posted by Zenster 2004-04-15 2:40:15 AM||   2004-04-15 2:40:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 This will resonate with large sections of European society. Recall the Socialists won the Spanish election. AQ and Islamic terrorism may well result in splitting the west, and arguably the process has started already. It will be interesting to see on which side various countries choose.
Posted by Phil B  2004-04-15 2:47:42 AM||   2004-04-15 2:47:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Its really time to implant RFID microdots on all Al Jazeera employees.
Posted by 3dc 2004-04-15 2:50:13 AM||   2004-04-15 2:50:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#4  Won't do any good, Binny owns the Qatari interior minister. As long as he's on the payroll, we'll never get any cooperation from the Qataris on where these tapes come from.
Posted by Dan Darling  2004-04-15 2:54:02 AM|| [http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com]  2004-04-15 2:54:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Mr Caveman (Osama) speaks from the cave ...again informing the E.U. to cave in to his insane demands of jihad.
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-04-15 3:05:22 AM||   2004-04-15 3:05:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 No way beardie. ESAD.
Posted by Howard UK 2004-04-15 4:12:31 AM||   2004-04-15 4:12:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I expect France to really go for this along with the rest of Old Europe. Given any chance to surrender they will be at the head of the line.
Posted by Michael  2004-04-15 5:45:42 AM||   2004-04-15 5:45:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Did anyone hear Zapatero say thank you yet???
Posted by Rafael 2004-04-15 6:59:49 AM||   2004-04-15 6:59:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 The EU would probably be happy to surrender but for all their diplomatic expertise they can't find a suitable venue and guest list for this since Bin Laden doesn't get his mail thru a diplomatic pouch.
Posted by mhw 2004-04-15 8:32:13 AM||   2004-04-15 8:32:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 This Sky News article is headlined Europe Snubs Truce Offer. Unfortunately, there's little meat to back up the assertion.
Posted by GK 2004-04-15 8:33:57 AM||   2004-04-15 8:33:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 In the title: is that a "Hudna" or a "Hundai"? :-)
Posted by Frank G  2004-04-15 8:58:36 AM||   2004-04-15 8:58:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 You can trust me, infidels! I'm not like the others!
Posted by OBL 2004-04-15 9:04:46 AM||   2004-04-15 9:04:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain quickly spurned what they suggested was an attempt to drive a wedge between Europe and America

No word from France?
Posted by B 2004-04-15 9:20:29 AM||   2004-04-15 9:20:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 All these "alleged" audiotapes have done little to prove that the turd is still alive. If Rich Little calls your house using Nixon's voice, does that mean Richard Nixon is still alive?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-04-15 10:14:10 AM||   2004-04-15 10:14:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 "Germany will never negotiate with terrorists and criminals. Together with the international community we will continue to fight against international terrorism." (German gov spokesman)

Just scanned the major French newspapers.
RIEN, NADA, NIENTE
Posted by True German Ally 2004-04-15 10:29:35 AM||   2004-04-15 10:29:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Just scanned the major French newspapers.
RIEN, NADA, NIENTE

Excepting Germany, I'll wait and see if the actions complement the words, TGA.
Posted by Pappy 2004-04-15 12:13:48 PM||   2004-04-15 12:13:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 TGA, didn't the Germans negotiate with the Palestinians in Munich 1972? And didn't the Germans (and others?) pay a ransom to the Salafists in Algeria for the release of the kidnapped European tourists? I hope the German government spokesman is not B.S.-ing.
Posted by Tibor 2004-04-15 12:25:20 PM||   2004-04-15 12:25:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 At this point, "talk is cheap" should be invoked here, unless its Blair, Berlusconi, or the Polish leader. I wouldn't give you a plug nickel for the rest of them.
Posted by Anonymous4052 2004-04-15 12:41:11 PM||   2004-04-15 12:41:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Good for Germany!

Chirac is now being quoted as saying there will be "no bargaining with terrorists." I assume that means he's going to accept OBL's deal as offered.
Posted by Matt 2004-04-15 12:43:34 PM||   2004-04-15 12:43:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 There is a rumor - the French anthem, "Marsiellese" will be changed to , "I Surrender, Dear", and old 1940's dance tune. With new French lyrics by Dominic de Villepin, and the title changed to "I Surrender, Osama"
Posted by Anonymous4052 2004-04-15 12:58:43 PM||   2004-04-15 12:58:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 on the other post above by Long Hair Republican - it does say that, "French President Jacques Chirac said there can be no "bargaining with terrorists."

whoda thunkit
Posted by B 2004-04-15 1:45:31 PM||   2004-04-15 1:45:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Ok, I found Chirac's statement in Le Monde:
"Jacques Chirac a déclaré, jeudi à Alger, qu'"il n'y a pas de tractations possibles avec des terroristes", lors d'une conférence de presse à l'issue d'une visite de travail en Algérie. "Rien ne peut justifier le terrorisme et, à partir de là, rien ne peut permettre une discussion quelconque avec des terroristes", a-t-il ajouté."

Tibor, Munich 1972 were different times, terrorism was still new and the biggest nightmare of the Germans then was that Israelis would be killed on German soil (which happened because police at that time simply wasn't prepared for such things).

When it comes to hostages, there is probably no such thing as "not negotiating at all". Even Israel does negotiate from time to time, sometimes even for the return of dead IDF members.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-04-15 1:51:50 PM||   2004-04-15 1:51:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 TGA and others. It doesn't matter what governments say. The lesson of Madrid was that electorates can be swayed by terrorism to elect governments that are (percieved or actual it doesn't matter) soft(er) on terrorism, particularly Ismalic terorism. That to my knowledege has never happened before, and we will be living with the consequencies for a very long time.

And BTW, just because the media are too stupid or craven to connect the dots, it doesn't stop others from doing so. And also BTW I told you so!
Posted by Phil B  2004-04-15 8:54:47 PM||   2004-04-15 8:54:47 PM|| Front Page Top

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