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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Iran cures aids. *Bonus* No stoning involved.
TEHRAN, Sept. 6 (UPI) -- Iran's Ministry of Health claimed to have made a medical breakthrough with a formula to control symptoms of AIDS.
Kimmie's gonna be unhappy. The NKors already have a special sports drink to do that.
The state-controlled IRNA news agency quoted an unidentified ministry employee as saying, "The research studies to find out a formula to cure AIDS was initiated during the tenure of two former health ministers and have led to useful results."

Former Minister of Health and Medical Education Dr. Mohammad Farhadi said the chemical and herbal treatment appeared effective on other immune disorders as well.
Also regrows hair. I'm interested.
"The theory was to determine whether or not it is possible to boost the immunity system of the body. Some 60 projects were initiated to attain the result," Farhadi said in the IRNA report.
The other 59 were used on Zionists, Zoroasterians and Christians.
The announcement came a day before an international meeting to discuss U.N. sanctions against Iran for refusing to curtail the enrichment of uranium or allow its monitoring.
"Sanction us and we won't let you have any of our magic bug juice!"
Posted by: Thoth || 09/06/2006 13:53 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Heavy water again? Somebody infect the 12th Wannabe with it, and we'll see what happens.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/06/2006 16:29 Comments || Top||

#2  History will bear out that being infected with Islam is far more lethal than AIDS could ever be.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/06/2006 16:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Yeah. At least AIDS is temporal.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/06/2006 17:02 Comments || Top||

#4  They're some busy little beavers huh ?
Posted by: J. D. Lux || 09/06/2006 17:45 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
USC Study: Celebrities Really Are More Narcissistic Than the General Public
Celebrities have more narcissistic personality traits than the general population, and people with narcissistic tendencies seem to be attracted to the entertainment industry rather than the industry creating narcissists, according to a groundbreaking study conducted by researchers Drew Pinsky of the Keck School of Medicine of USC and S. Mark Young of the USC Marshall School of Business and the USC Annenberg School for Communication.

The study, which will be published in the Journal of Research in Personality (Elsevier), is the first systematic, empirical scholarly study of celebrity personality and was based on a standardized test of narcissistic personality traits administered to 200 celebrities.
Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:15 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder what the results would have been if they'd excluded Katie Couric' test results.
Posted by: phil_b || 09/06/2006 0:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Eddie Izzard Dressed to Kill"

"... Cause that’s what narcissism is all about, is looking in the mirror and going, “God, I’d like to have sex with myself,” you know? You know, it’s all sort of self-attraction thing...."
Posted by: anonymous2u || 09/06/2006 0:58 Comments || Top||

#3  In other breaking news: Scientists discover frog's ass is water tight.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/06/2006 1:57 Comments || Top||

#4  ain't it just grand

even my poop is narcissistic
Posted by: Suri || 09/06/2006 2:33 Comments || Top||

#5  There's a nice article I found quite some while ago, and that would be very relevant here :

http://www.hardylaw.net/mental.html

Moore as a symptom of the culture of narcissism

To fully understand the point made here, we must look first at Michael Moore as an individual, before posing a much broader social issue. First, a diagnosis of Moore -- then a look at whether he is merely a mirror for a broader cultural development.

Oscar For Best Acting Out
Of A Personality Disorder?
(...)
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/06/2006 5:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Next up: Wall Stret is greedier.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/06/2006 7:40 Comments || Top||

#7  Water is wet.
Posted by: Glomort Glons9693 || 09/06/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#8  I am stunned. I am absolutely stunned. I just thought that these were people whose hedonistic and nihilistic lives the American people, for some bizarre reason, liked to follow, perhaps because they felt that these beautiful people were "better" than they were, or somehow more interesting, because they got to sleep with hot stars and party all day while the rest of us have to go home to a faithful husband and a couple of troublesome children every night. Now we learn that these people who always feature in glamorous cover photographs, who bounce from one relationship to another, who have glowing articles written about them, who have more money than we'll ever spend . . . are narcissistic?

That loud crash was one of the pillars of my worldview falling and shattering into a million pieces. What? You say you heard nothing? Maybe you need your ears checked . . .

And in other news, scientists announce today that rain appears to be wet.
Posted by: The Doctor || 09/06/2006 9:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Water is wet.

Curses - beaten to it.
Posted by: The Doctor || 09/06/2006 9:27 Comments || Top||

#10  I think I can now predict the winner of this year's "No Shit Sherlock" award...
Posted by: mojo || 09/06/2006 11:49 Comments || Top||

#11 
A pigs ass is pork!
Posted by: Texas Redneck || 09/06/2006 13:26 Comments || Top||

#12  The significance is that the Hollywood "Star"system of actors (as opposed to working actors) can attract and promote those with actual personality disorders that can be diagnosed psychologically. Some agents prefer this type of actor, because they doesn't really think for themselves, and will do anything to promote themselves. This also is important information for the public since it relates directly to some actors espousing political opinion as "authoritative." They are manipulatable and shallow. Not all actors are like this or have this disorder, but the bottom line is: Never trust a narcissist.

Some in the entertainment industry are getting sick of being taken for a ride by the narcissists--as evidenced by Paramount dumping Tom Cruise.
Posted by: ex-lib || 09/06/2006 14:00 Comments || Top||

#13  needs "Master Of Obvious" graphic. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/06/2006 15:02 Comments || Top||

#14  You say you heard nothing? Maybe you need your ears checked . . .

Trust a Doctor to come up with that line.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/06/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#15  I wonder what the results would have been if they'd excluded Katie Couric' test results

You mean Katie "Does This Job Make my Head Look Too Fat?" Couric?
Posted by: WTF || 09/06/2006 22:17 Comments || Top||

#16  Wow. Last time I was this surprised was when Michael Stipe came out of the closet!
Posted by: BH || 09/06/2006 23:12 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Fidel to meet foreign dignitaries
Cuba's President Fidel Castro who is recovering from an undisclosed sickness will be able to meet with foreign dignitaries who will be in Havana for a Non-Aligned Summit next week. A statement in the official Communist Party newspaper, Granma, said the eighty year old President would meet the dignitaries in private.

Cuba will be the venue for the summit of 116 developing nations from Africa, Asia and Latin America. The Cuban leader is not expected to be strong enough to host the event, to be attended by some 50 heads of state. In the statement, President Castro said he lost 41 pounds in a few days after undergoing emergency surgery to stop intestinal bleeding.
Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Viva la Fidel
Posted by: Captain America || 09/06/2006 2:28 Comments || Top||


López Obrador's support dwindling
In the days after ballot results showed him losing an agonizingly close presidential election, candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador was in fine form, leading the largest rallies Mexico has ever seen and convincing most Mexicans of the need for a recount. Six weeks later, the Mexican public has largely turned its back on the charismatic leftist, who has been transformed into a marginal figure -- to a degree even within his own party. If the July 2 election were held now, conservative Felipe Calderón would trounce López Obrador by 24 percentage points, a recent newspaper poll showed.

Some analysts say the former Mexico City mayor has done irreparable harm to his political career by sowing unrest and refusing to accept the constitutional rules for resolving the close election. Mexico in 2006 is often compared to the disputed U.S. presidential election of 2000 between George Bush and Al Gore, where results in Florida and elsewhere were questioned. Initial results showed Calderón with a razor thin lead amid allegations of balloting irregularities.

“He has become a person whose actions prove what his critics were afraid of -- that he won't abide by the rules...”
The difference is that López Obrador, 53, has refused to recognize the authority of the court that ruled against him or concede defeat in the name of political harmony, analysts say. The metaphor often used in the Mexican press is that of a martyr, burning himself alive. ''One thing is for certain,'' wrote political columnist José María Carmona last week in the Change of Michoacan newspaper. ``The political career of López Obrador is entering its final phase.''
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Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Today's Wall Street Journal:

Mr. Calderón, who will take office on December 1, had won a narrow plurality of votes in the fiercely fought July 2 election. But second-place finisher Andrés Manuel López Obrador has refused to accept the results, charging fraud and promoting civil unrest to force the tribunal to nullify the results. More than a few Mexican power-brokers have privately hoped for a similar outcome--which was all too imaginable in a country that only six years ago ended 70 years of rule by the Institutional Revolutionary Party.

So the conclusion of the seven-judge tribunal ought to be a moment of pride for Mexicans. It is a sign of political maturity that even such a close election can be fairly adjudicated. The tribunal had sponsored partial recounts in contested precincts, but in the end reduced Mr. Calderon's victory margin by only a few thousand votes. The result confirms the election-day judgment of foreign observers, who called the vote one of the cleanest they'd seen. Some one million Mexicans had voluntarily manned polling places on election day.

The challenge now is for all Mexicans to accept these results so that Mr. Calderón is able to govern. . . .

There's also a role here for the rest of the world, especially for U.S. political leaders who should be supporting Messrs. Fox and Calderón now that the tribunal has spoken. The special counsel for the Gore-Lieberman Recount Committee in 2000, Ronald Klain, was disgraceful on this score when he wrote in the July 9 Washington Post that Mr. López Obrador should "call his supporters to the streets and question the legitimacy of the vote casting and counting process. . . . Above all, he must reject any suggestion that Calderón received more votes--indeed, he must insist that any fair count would show that he is the rightful winner."

Mr. López Obrador seems to have taken that bad advice, at great potential cost to Mexican stability and democracy. It's time for Yankees who care about our southern neighbor to stop using Mexico 2006 as an excuse to settle scores from Florida 2000 and start reinforcing the vital institutions of Mexican democracy. The last thing the U.S. needs is an unstable, ungovernable Mexico.
Posted by: Mike || 09/06/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#2  The special counsel for the Gore-Lieberman Recount Committee in 2000, Ronald Klain, was disgraceful on this score when he wrote in the July 9 Washington Post that Mr. López Obrador should "call his supporters to the streets and question the legitimacy of the vote casting and counting process. . . . Above all, he must reject any suggestion that Calderón received more votes--indeed, he must insist that any fair count would show that he is the rightful winner."

About sums it up. Fortunately, here in U.S. the crazies don't go into the streets anymore (except maybe SF), they run to their computers to spit out their bile.
Posted by: DoDo || 09/06/2006 11:52 Comments || Top||

#3  ...You know, the sad part is that when the Revolution does come to Mexico (and I fear it will much faster now than the 10-15 years I was giving it before)it's going to be even uglier. And jackasses like Mr. Klain will be among those to blame.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 09/06/2006 12:13 Comments || Top||

#4  López Obrador's support dwindling Time to cut off the other leg
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 09/06/2006 14:14 Comments || Top||

#5  Give it up, please, Obra-gore. Just head on down to Caracas and make out with your pal Hugo and leave the rest of the world the hell alone.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/06/2006 14:43 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Japanese princess gives birth to male heir
Japan's Princess Kiko gave birth on Wednesday to a baby boy -- the first male heir to be born into the ancient imperial family in more than four decades. The birth of a boy, who will be third in line after his uncle and his father, will likely dampen debate on letting women inherit the throne -- an idea opposed by conservatives eager to preserve a tradition they say stretches back more than 2,000 years.

An Imperial Household Agency official told reporters Kiko had given birth by a Caesarean operation to the 2,558 gram (5 lb 10 ounce) boy at 8:27 a.m. (2327 GMT). He said both Kiko, 39, and the baby were doing well. The birth took place at the private Aiiku Hospital, which has close ties to the royal family and has seen many celebrity births in the past.
Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The world has no use for royalty.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 09/06/2006 7:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Then tell me about the American judiciary?
Posted by: Glomort Glons9693 || 09/06/2006 9:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Banzai
Posted by: john || 09/06/2006 21:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Doesn't make any difference what you think the world has any use for.

If Japan wants them, it's nobody else's business.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/06/2006 22:57 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Feminist Author says 'Crocodile Hunter' exploited animals
You just knew this was coming. These hateful bastards can't even wait for the body to grow cold.

Feminist author Greer says 'It’s no surprise that he came to grief’

SYDNEY, Australia - Feminist academic Germaine Greer said on Wednesday she hoped the death of Australian “Crocodile Hunter” Steve Irwin would mark the end of what she called exploitative nature documentaries, a discordant note amid floods of tributes. Irwin died in a freak diving accident off Australia’s northeast coast on Monday after he was hit in the chest by the serrated barb from a stingray’s tail.

Echoing comments she made this week in Britain’s Guardian newspaper, Australian-born Greer likened Irwin to a lion tamer and said he had intruded on the habitats of animals and treated them with “massive insensitivity.”

“It’s no surprise that he came to grief,” Greer told Nine Network television. “We now have enough respect for lions to be embarrassed if we see someone trying to crack whips at them and wave chairs at them. Jumping all over crocodiles is the same kind of thing.”
Terri is just going to kick her ass.
Greer, an award-winning author and left-wing freak, is a frequent critic of personalities like British soccer star David Beckham and social trends like reality television.
Because it's easier to pew around and lob cowpies at people than it is to think.
In 2003 she criticized J.R.R. Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy for attracting “spaced-out hippies, environmentalists, free-market libertarians, social conservatives, pacifists, new-age theosophists, sexists and racists the world over.”
Everyone except her.
Irwin’s death has prompted outpourings of grief and sympathy from around the world, dominating local newspapers and clogging Internet news sites.

Greer said she found the Irwin phenomenon "embarrassing," although she understood the sadness at his death. “I’m not saying that’s not sad, I’m saying what might be over now is this kind of exploitation of animals,” Greer said. “I am sick and tired of programs that tell me that the world is full of wicked, nasty, powerful, deadly creatures. Why does Australia set itself up to be made into this hellhole?” she said.
I'm sorry, but somebody in Australia with some sack left should just go and slap this silly witch.
Only sounds like 'witch'.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/06/2006 14:46 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  KKKos didn't wait, either.
Posted by: Korora || 09/06/2006 14:58 Comments || Top||

#2  “I am sick and tired of programs that tell me that the world is full of wicked, nasty, powerful, deadly creatures."

I see, so it is, according to you, twat, full of pink unicorns snacking on lolipops?
Posted by: zazz || 09/06/2006 15:34 Comments || Top||

#3  I would have loved to see Irwin take on a unicorn. :)

Somebody shut this biatch up.
Posted by: Thoth || 09/06/2006 15:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe Terri could arrange for this idiot to check out a few stingrays and crocodiles . . .

Irwin did more for what he loved in a day than this woman could accomplish in ten lifetimes. And I'll bet he liked Lord of the Rings, too.
Posted by: The Doctor || 09/06/2006 15:55 Comments || Top||

#5  On April 23, 2000, Greer was taken hostage by Karen Burke, a nineteen-year-old student from the University of Bath who had been writing to Greer, and who eventually broke into her home in Essex, tied Greer up in the kitchen, and proceeded to smash up the contents of the house with a poker and rip the telephone from the wall. Dinner guests eventually found Greer lying in a distressed state on the floor, with Burke hanging onto her legs, shouting "Mummy, mummy". Burke was arrested and charged with assault and unlawful imprisonment, and was later sentenced to two years' probation. Greer was not hurt and held a press conference in which she told reporters: "I am not angry, I am not upset, I am not hurt. I am fine. I haven't lost my sense of humour. I am not the victim here.

....and she knows what about animals.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/06/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||

#6  A lot of Australians don't like the Crock Hunter, his show never made it big there. I think many of them think of him as an Australian Hillbilly and are worried the world will think less of them.

What they don't see is he was infectiously optimistic and manly and probably did more for Aussie world relations than an amry of Germaine Greers.

I wasn't aware so many elitists disliked him until he died. Makes me like him even more.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/06/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||

#7  She is just mad he didn't exploit her.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/06/2006 16:26 Comments || Top||

#8  In all seriousness, you may be right Darth. How much of feminazi caterwalling is motivated by the jealousy and resentment that comes from realizing no man will have them?
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/06/2006 16:58 Comments || Top||

#9  She was married for all of 3 weeks to some Auzzie fellow. I think you may have a point.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/06/2006 17:02 Comments || Top||

#10  What Steve's tragic death does is to remind us of the environmentalist myth. Nature is not some garden of eden. It's dangerous. And life in nature is nasty, brutish and short.
Posted by: Iblis || 09/06/2006 17:23 Comments || Top||

#11  “I am sick and tired of programs that tell me that the world is full of wicked, nasty, powerful, deadly creatures."

"Only men are vile."

Last I heard, Greer had her knickers in a knot over the possibility of artificial wombs, because when men can make babies by themselves, they won't have any more use for women.

Listening to Greer is like listening to signals from an alternate universe.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 09/06/2006 19:38 Comments || Top||

#12  More like signals full of noise that ALMOST add up to information. ;=)
Posted by: lotp || 09/06/2006 19:40 Comments || Top||

#13  Germ Greer, Original Inspiration for the LAME Claim Fallacy.
Posted by: tipper || 09/06/2006 20:25 Comments || Top||

#14  Number 1, she's not a feminist. She's a bitter, self-centered asshole.

Number 2, allow me to repeat what I said on Tim Blair's blog:

Dear Germaine,

FUCK YOU.

Sincerely,

America
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/06/2006 22:55 Comments || Top||

#15  Okay, I'll bite - is she trying hard not to say that Irwin used and abused his wife + family as illustrated before the world wid the "croc vs infant" incident. The abused wife hired a scuba hitman to kill Aussie = USA Male Brute Irwin while making it look like a he was speared by an angry Radical Islamist/Motherly bull ray in righteous self-defense??? The Commie Airborne couldn't save Irwin = COLUMBIA Shuttle = WTC = NOLA, etal. in time??? STAY TUNED ON CHANNEL 40/AUSSIE DRAMA TV.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/06/2006 23:46 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
MoveOn.org site chock full of anti-Semitic venom
A string of anti-Semitic rants about Sen. Joe Lieberman have popped up on the liberal MoveOn.org's open forum Web site, drawing criticism from the Anti-Defamation League. It's the latest flap in the contentious race between Lieberman, who is running as an independent to keep his seat in Connecticut, and upstart Ned Lamont, the Democratic nominee.

“Foxman cited examples from the site's Action Forum, including 'media owning Jewish pigs,' 'Zionazis,' a reference to the senator as 'Jew Lieberman' and the question, 'Why are the Jews so Jew-y?'
”
"We recognize that Action Forum is an open forum intended to foster the free flow of ideas," ADL head Abraham Foxman said in a letter dated Aug. 31 to MoveOn, which supported Lamont in the Democratic primary against Lieberman. "Nevertheless, since such profoundly offensive content is appearing on a board clearly linked to MoveOn.org, we believe you should assume some responsibility to respond to this hateful content," Foxman wrote in the letter, which was forwarded by Lieberman's campaign. Foxman cited examples from the site's Action Forum, including "media owning Jewish pigs," "Zionazis," a reference to the senator as "Jew Lieberman" and the question, "Why are the Jews so Jew-y?"

Foxman wrote, "Those who allow hate to rear its ugly head under their auspices bear a special responsibility to distance themselves from that hate, and to speak out against it, as loudly as possible."

“He added that most of the comments were not made by MoveOn members and suggested it could be an effort by conservatives to "target" the group...”
Lieberman is one of the country's best-known Jewish politicians. Foxman and Eli Pariser, executive director of the MoveOn Political Action Committee, couldn't be reached. But in a statement posted on the MoveOn site Saturday, Pariser condemned the anti-Semitic rants. "Once in a while - as in any public forum - inappropriate material is posted," he wrote. "Recently, a few of the thousands of comments that are posted every week contained anti-Semitic language. "The comments that were posted were abhorrent. We were dismayed to see them, and removed them as soon as they came to our attention 17 days ago."

He added that most of the comments were not made by MoveOn members and suggested it could be an effort by conservatives to "target" the group, and said any effort to tie the rants to MoveOn was "wrong."
Interesting defense. It was those nasty Publicans, trying to make MoveOn.org look bad.

But we get anti-Semitic rants here every now and then, and we get visits by DU and MoveOn agents provocateurs. The ones the mods find too offensive get moved to the sinktrap, where they're retained for all the world to see, assuming all the world has an interest. I could build a sinktrap for MoveOn.org, if they gave me a certain amount of hard currency — no yuan, escudos, or dinars, thank you.

Much more to the point, though, is the fact that the MoveOn regulars don't seem to have gotten into a very high dudgeon about the posts. I'm actually the slowest of the mods to move something to the sinktrap, because I like to give the regulars the opportunity to play with the nasty comments. Having a chew toy is good for the intellectual jaws, preventing the buildup of scale between the lobes of the brain. If someone commented at Rantburg asking "why are Jews so Jew-y" they'd be snark fodder for an entire day and the thread would probably top 100 comments. So my guess would be that, whether the posts came from MoveOn regulars, casual visitors, or insidious Rovian operatives, the response was the important thing, not so much the posts themselves. And the response, or the lack thereof, reveals much about the MoveOn people.
Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Help me out, doesn't the US Jewish community align themselves with the donks?
Posted by: Captain America || 09/06/2006 2:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Not shocked at all, considering how much antisemitic crap regularly posts at DailyKos and DU. Don't know why they would be shocked to see it turn up at MoveOn.org, since they kind of have an overlapping fan base.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 09/06/2006 4:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Good point, Fred. Anybody can troll any site with a comments box, that's a given. It's what the site does with it that matters.

I'd say that any troll who posts an anti-Semitic rant here, or at Brothers Judd, or Tim Blair's, or Captains Quarters, LGF, or a dozen other "right wing" places in my "Bookmarks" file will get a sound thrashing and a thorough snarking from the regulars. Do the same at DU or Kos or Truthout, and . . . well, let's say you'd see a much more, uh, subdued reaction at most.
Posted by: Mike || 09/06/2006 8:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Do the MoveOn clowns who whine about the glory and superiority of 'international law' understand the part of that law established at Nuremberg for Julius Streicher?
Posted by: Glomort Glons9693 || 09/06/2006 9:19 Comments || Top||

#5  More Jews are voting against the Democratic Party in each election post-9/11, Captain America. In fact, each time you've asked that question the number has gone up. It is not, however, a cause and effect relationship.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/06/2006 14:55 Comments || Top||

#6  The conservatives? I thought for sure they would blame it on the Mossad.
Posted by: Thoth || 09/06/2006 15:20 Comments || Top||

#7  This is one of the most disturbing things about the current information offensive.
It is everywhere right next to the 9/11 conspiracy thoeries.
I have seen some of the Hardcore shit because I saw some buttons and pushed them.
What came out of the conspiracy theorists after I pushed their buttons was a stream of , frequently antique , antisemitism that I recognize as National Alliance material.
Posted by: J. D. Lux || 09/06/2006 19:24 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Justice Kennedy gets new coronary stent
WASHINGTON - Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy was hospitalized over the weekend after experiencing mild chest pain, the court said Tuesday. Kennedy, 70, had a stent inserted Saturday at Washington Hospital Center. The device is a tiny mesh scaffold used to keep arteries open.

The court called the procedure a revision to the stent doctors put in Kennedy in November. The justice did not make his health news public at the time. A common problem with stents is that tissue grows back through them and recloses the blood vessel.
Yep, common problem even with the newest stents.
Doctors found no evidence of heart damage, the court said in a brief statement. He was released from the hospital Sunday and has since returned to work. The court's new term begins Oct. 2
Posted by: Steve White || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I would never wish ill to befall anyone serving our country.

But if his illness were to worsen in the next two years..... W could appoint a third Justice.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/06/2006 7:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Bobby,
Bush may well get more opportunities to nominate for the Supreme Court but I doubt he will be able to get anybody else confirmed - unless he sells out and nominates a lefty.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/06/2006 8:58 Comments || Top||

#3  I wish Gumby well.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/06/2006 11:19 Comments || Top||

#4  I wish America well.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/06/2006 11:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Opportunities like this are why we need a Republican Senate after the November elections. GWB may not be pristine on all the issues, but he selects conservative judges.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/06/2006 12:48 Comments || Top||


Goodbye, Norm: Bush names new Secretary of Transportation
President Bush has chosen Mary Peters, a former federal highway administrator, to succeed Norman Mineta as secretary of transportation, a senior administration official said today.
Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  She is currently committed to the same "lets have more toll roads because that's the only way we can build more highway lanes" agenda as Mineta was at the end of his Secretaryship.


Posted by: mhw || 09/06/2006 10:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Good riddance, Norm.

And please do let the door hit you in the ass on your way out - you certainly won't notice the additional brain damage. >:-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/06/2006 15:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
The Botany of Illegal Immigration : The rape trees
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/06/2006 06:00 || Comments || Link || [13 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It is time the American people put a stop to the travesty of our open borders. It is time to understand that "open borders" means they are open to every kind of evil, including gang rape and human trafficking.

NO, it is time these worthless donks we've got in congress and POTUS quit betraying and selling out the American way of life. Betrayal, absolute betrayal. Nothing less.









Posted by: Besoeker || 09/06/2006 7:52 Comments || Top||

#2  This is not something the coyotes invented - human traffickers the world over and for all time have done such things - and precisely this vile act in particular. Note that this isn't unusual today in Europe, with the victims being women sold into prostitution, New Europe into Old, for the "entertainment" of the sophisticates of the EU. Nor in Asia, nor in Africa. No corner of the world is without this evil...

That it is happening on our border is an indictment of craven cowardly animals, masquerading as men, same as everywhere else on the planet -- I include the politicians with the traffickers. To lay it at Bush's feet is classic propaganda, particularly Card Stacking and Pinpointing the Enemy. In Logic, it constitutes a False Dilemma. The choices aren't limited to blaming Bush for inaction or accepting Rape Trees. In other words, the blame game isn't the answer, it's just the infantile lazy man's simple-minded screed - and Bush isn't the only one who should receive blame - there's plenty of culprits equally deserving... starting with the obvious 535 in Congress, not counting civil authorities at all levels and Judges and Law Enforcement who refuse to enforce existing law. And then there are the untouchables: "clergy" who think they are above the law. In truth, it begins with Congress, since they initiate laws and allocate funds... then the Executive is officially empowered and enabled to make shit happen. Then the Federal Authorities, such as Border Agents and INS, then the States and cities and local LE - you've read the articles - there are plenty of people who have decided they can make their own laws or selectively enforce what's on the books -- no matter what Congress and Bush do... Seems to me that they're all failing us in great degree. And it's well past time to get real about it. Or is that too much to ask?

I am very tired of the pathetic simple-minded half-assed twit-level BS that passes for political discourse from those who would seek to lead us, or frisk our wallets, or enlist us in their favorite causes for a bandwagon effect. Got a "new" evil to trumpet? One that gets your shorts in a bunch? Okay, fine. Think it through, no really - think it through and include the inconvenient bits such as doing your part, define it accurately, pose it, process it into its component parts and address each one, generate, propose, and advance effective solutions for each bit, and do it all, everything, within the confines of reality. Money, politics, support - the works. It's not as much fun, of course, as merely braying aloud but you'll be more likely to actually get something done that way, assuming you really are interested in solutions and not merely blame games.

To solve this problem, to eliminate the evil in human trafficking on our border, and simultaneously stop the invasion by those who come by other means than coyotes, we all know the two things that must occur: remove the incentives to come and make it "impossible" to come illegally. Simple, eh? Nope. Those two points require far more than just bashing Bush to get off high-center. It involves employers being held to account, stopping easily-obtained fake ID - no make that stopping fake ID period, allow no new incentives such as SocSec bennies, ending catch and release, building effective barriers, and much much more. There is no Magic Wand and there is no Santa Clause. Yeah, it sucks. If blame is your thing, then go after every Congresscritter and every public official who is failing to execute their duties -- and every voter who hasn't ridden their critter into the ground to enforce the laws we have now - regardless of the additional measures required to make it so. Make them, with every tool and dollar at your command, on pain of sudden retirement or being turned out of office for malfeasance, pass effective laws which satisfy the requirements to end the problem and enforce them to the letter. If you consider the full spectrum, it is no different than the so-called "war on drugs" BS... you have to interdict successfully -- and you have to remove demand. Fail in either and you have the results we see in that pathetic disaster: utter failure. The tough bit, removing demand, involves drastic measures. So be it. If you can't accept the solutions required, then you're not serious about solving the problem. Either address the whole set of problems, the Gordian Knot masquerading as one problem, or fail.

How repetitious this has all become. Every identified evil now generates fresh outrage and a demand to create a prominent place at the feet of one man. How fucking absurd. How juvenile and foolish... from hangnails, as .com used to point out with great derision, to true evil, such as this. Yeah, right to left, everything is Bush's fault. BDS runs the full spectrum, now.

Perhaps if he were Emperor with absolute power, then the self-righteous screechers, the Single Issue Freaks, the BDS addled, the Dhimmicrats with no ideas or actual concern for America - just their hunger for power, the triangulators and ankle-biters, the lame and the 15 minutes of fame tools could all go back to being simply boring assholes and we could worry about important shit, again. Like Suri's turds.
Posted by: flyover || 09/06/2006 7:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Whew! I am glad you found your way to us, flyover. A good rant!
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/06/2006 8:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Be interesting [in a shitty kind of way] to see if this single issue keeps a signifigant percentage of Repubs and independants from voting this fall.
Posted by: Suri || 09/06/2006 8:49 Comments || Top||

#5  :) Thanks, tw... I get so frustrated by this obviously carefully selective POV and the wild knee-jerk condemnation, now coming from all sides, that it's just not much fun, anymore. I know everybody didn't grow up in a vaccuum, so where does this come from?

Suri - Such pointless self-defeating stupidity will not be rare or isolated, I think. Whether there are enough such fools to tip the balance, guaranteeing the last 2 years on Bush's watch will be wasted in a circus...
Posted by: flyover || 09/06/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Good Great commentary flyover... the "broken borders" the lame policy of 'let someone deal with the problem as long as it ain't me' is a particular sore point.

imo, The 'policy' [lack of one] represents a sheer rent of citizen status and lack of respect for those citizens who died defending our flag and country.

BUT it is childish to refuse to do the best we can [sic vote] and also disrespectful to all those who have sacrificed much more than we who btw still live.

it's just the infantile lazy man's simple-minded screed - and Bush isn't the only one who should receive blame - there's plenty of culprits equally deserving... starting with the obvious 535 in Congress, not counting civil authorities at all levels and Judges and Law Enforcement who refuse to enforce existing law. And then there are the untouchables: "clergy" who think they are above the law. In truth, it begins with Congress, since they initiate laws and allocate funds... then the Executive is officially empowered and enabled to make shit happen. Then the Federal Authorities, such as Border Agents and INS, then the States and cities and local LE - you've read the articles - there are plenty of people who have decided they can make their own laws or selectively enforce what's on the books -- no matter what Congress and Bush do... Seems to me that they're all failing us in great degree. And it's well past time to get real about it. Or is that too much to ask?

I am very tired of the pathetic simple-minded half-assed twit-level BS that passes for political discourse from those who would seek to lead us, or frisk our wallets, or enlist us in their favorite causes for a bandwagon effect. Got a "new" evil to trumpet? One that gets your shorts in a bunch? Okay, fine. Think it through, no really - think it through and include the inconvenient bits such as doing your part, define it accurately, pose it, process it into its component parts and address each one, generate, propose, and advance effective solutions for each bit, and do it all, everything, within the confines of reality. Money, politics, support - the works. It's not as much fun, of course, as merely braying aloud but you'll be more likely to actually get something done that way, assuming you really are interested in solutions and not merely blame games.


We demand more flyover, please feel obligated! :-)
Posted by: RD || 09/06/2006 9:59 Comments || Top||

#7  RD :) I wonder, when was the last time our borders were actually secure? Ever?

The US has always been a job magnet for Mexicans, especially since WW-II when we boomed economically. What changed, and when, to make the flow an full-scale invasion? Or has it always been so in "modern" times, just not noticed because it was inconvenient - as ed pointed out yesterday regards the obvious economic benefits to employers?

Bush just happened to be the Prez when the music suddenly stopped, IMO.
Posted by: flyover || 09/06/2006 10:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Well, I'd say something here but I don't want to be William Hung following Kelly Clarkson.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/06/2006 11:17 Comments || Top||

#9  Yesterday, I sent my US rep an email.
"Secure the southern border by election day, or I will stay home."

It's a simple equation. His action on our border for my vote. You can all do the same. Reps are elected every 2 years and thus they are at the whim of the people. Take advantage.
Posted by: wxjames || 09/06/2006 11:56 Comments || Top||

#10  Did you sign it, Nancy Pelosi?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/06/2006 11:59 Comments || Top||

#11  Dear People of Mexico,

If you want an open border throw out your government and join the US as territories (like Puerto Rico). We'll take care of you and give you law and order.

If you want soveregnty, control your citizens and your border.

Thank you for your time.

~America
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/06/2006 12:01 Comments || Top||

#12  wxjames: does it matter how your representative actually voted on the issue, or are you going to punish him for not reconciling the House version with the incompatible Senate one?

If you think it's your representative's job to pay for the actions of other people's representatives who have voted for amnesty (just using that issue as an example) then I suspect you aren't actually going to get anywhere.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 09/06/2006 12:14 Comments || Top||

#13  And not only are you going to get nowhere, but you're going to take the rest of us with you.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 09/06/2006 12:15 Comments || Top||

#14  I wonder, when was the last time our borders were actually secure? Ever?

Probably never, to be honest. It just never seemed like a big priority.

The big difference over the past few years has been how the coyotes have treated the illegals they have been leading across. There have always been guides showing people how to sneak across, and vans crammed with 20 people inside, as long as I can remember. What I never heard of until recently were houses where coyotes held 50, 60 or more people as hostages until they got some kind of ransom money from the families back home. There have even been cases of coyotes "stealing" hostages from each other, just so they could get ransom payments.

I guess it switched within the last few years from drug smuggling to human smuggling when they realized the penalties were less likely to be handed down (marijuana's never afraid to bear witness...).

I had never heard of the rape trees, but knowing what kind of evil bastards many of them are, I'm not surprised. How terrible for those women and girls! Neither government (ours and Mexico's) have really done anything about the hostage taking, so don't expect them to do a damn thing about this, either. Both of them want the money too bad.

(BTW, great rant, flyover!)

Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 09/06/2006 12:22 Comments || Top||

#15  “In other words, the blame game isn't the answer, it's just the infantile lazy man's simple-minded screed - and Bush isn't the only one who should receive blame…”

Flyover, you make a cogent point for “BDS” in general but, with all due respect, it doesn’t adequately represent the majority of opponents to the Bush Administrations’ advocacy for “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”. Even moderately rational people understand that the president alone isn’t exclusively to blame for this current morass. But to dismiss this administrations’ culpability would take blind faith or blind loyalty (or both). To be clear, this is not a dispute of a single issue. This is a complex Phenomena that affects numerous areas including security, econonomy, employment, politics, and culture just to name a few. Nor is it simply a disagreement about solutions. Reasonable people can reach opposing conclusions with mutual respect. However, this administration has taken advantage of the bully-pulpit to carefully craft a policy based on a political calculus -- not on principle. Which has, for the most part, allowed them to frame their opinions as complex at the same time portraying their detractors as having a single issue mentality. When in reality the majority of “enforcement first” advocates recognize the administrations approach is simply another smoke and mirrors policy designed to garner power, money, and votes. And there is no reason why they shouldn’t be called on it.

Stop the bleeding first, and then dress the wound!
Posted by: DepotGuy || 09/06/2006 12:26 Comments || Top||

#16  The criminal side of this is what should be featured. Not only the kidnapping/ransom racket, but the gang rapes and subsequent forced prostitution. Then there's the drugs, the smuggling in of Islamic terrorists, and the trash--every year a convoy of dump trucks full of trash gathered from the transfer points photos and slide shows at this link 15 miles long--trash that pollutes the US communities' water supplies.

The border need to be secured from the blatant criminal element, for the protection of good people on both sides. That case can and should be made.
Posted by: ex-lib || 09/06/2006 13:50 Comments || Top||

#17  What changed, and when, to make the flow an full-scale invasion?

Ease of transportation and, although it sounds crazy, wealth. Back in the old days when poor people could only afford shank's mare, it cost too much to walk all the way across Mexico to get to the border, only to walk part way across the US to get to a job, not to mention paying for food along the way. Now even the poor are wealthy enough to pay for a bus ticket that takes them to the border, and the families back home have enough money from the relatives already in Gringoland to pay the coyote fee (and the coyote can hold them for additional ransom because the money is there to be taken).

The poor are fat because they aren't starving to death anymore. And they are coming north because they are doing well enough that they can afford to strive to do better for themselves and their children. At least, that's what I learnt from that lovely NYT article yesterday about the three illegals who'd received millions from the 9/11 victims fund, but were afraid to live fully for fear they might be sent home -- even taking the money with them.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/06/2006 14:00 Comments || Top||

#18  "The US has always been a job magnet for Mexicans, especially since WW-II when we boomed economically. What changed, and when, to make the flow an full-scale invasion? Or has it always been so in "modern" times, just not noticed because it was inconvenient - as ed pointed out yesterday regards the obvious economic benefits to employers?"

Italy and Greece and Ireland industrialized, the eastern european Jews were killed off, the other eastern europeans were trapped behind the iron curtain and when they came out joined the EU with its high wage markets. We havent always brought in Mexicans, but we've always brought in peasants to be cheap labor, and then to move up the ranks of society. And thank God for that, or Id never have been born, in all probability, and certainly not born an American.

Illegal immigrant traffickers are scum. My grandparents didnt need to deal with that, cause they came BEFORE there were any limits on immigration, and ALL immigrants, other than criminals and folks with contagious diseases were legal.

Im not suggesting we drop all limits on legal immigration. But a serious approach has to included legal immigration as well as cracking down at the border.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/06/2006 14:10 Comments || Top||

#19  And when I say we've ALWAYS brought in cheap labor, I do mean always.

When George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were around, it was the practice to buy indentured servants - someone who could NOT afford passage from England, but who sold himself for a term of years to a ship captain, who then sold him to a planter or master craftsman in the colonies. He received room and board till his term was up, then was given a suit of clothes and modest amount of money. It was a fairly inexpensive way to get labor, including often skilled labor.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/06/2006 14:14 Comments || Top||

#20  Italy and Greece and Ireland industrialized, the eastern european Jews were killed off, the other eastern europeans were trapped behind the iron curtain and when they came out joined the EU with its high wage markets. We havent always brought in Mexicans, but we've always brought in peasants to be cheap labor, and then to move up the ranks of society. And thank God for that, or Id never have been born, in all probability, and certainly not born an American.

You've partway answered your own question; while a lot of "peasants" came to the US in the 19th and early 20th centuries, they generally weren't mostly a culturally homogenous mass from one place.

Second, the relative remoteness of foreign countries in the past tended to help encourage assimilation. When the average (even poor) immigrant can go home twice a year, watch the soap operas in Spanish, indeed leave most of his family there (where the cost of living is cheaper)... it creates an undertow going the other way. Not assimilating becomes the path of least resistance because of both of those factors. And there's noone like John Hughes around to lead everyone out of this mess.
Posted by: Phil || 09/06/2006 15:02 Comments || Top||

#21  Closing the borders will not end the human trafficking. Nor will it end the exploitation of the poor trying to get to America. The borders have nothing to do with the containers smuggling in Chinese slaves and the abuse they take to get here. As bad as Rape is, it is what keeps the Mexican traffickers from doing worse, IE Chinese trafficers take the kids from the parents and sell them. Once the borders are secure the Mexicans will come here by boat or plane.

We have to address the Mexican labor issue and our broken immigration policies, not just build a wall.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/06/2006 15:37 Comments || Top||

#22  If you can get the pumps started.... even a sinking ship may have a chance to make it to port. Build the wall now, solve the immigration problem later.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/06/2006 16:12 Comments || Top||

#23  Do I detect a surrender ?
Are the borders not worth securing ?
Today, we have a booming economy, reinforced by hard working Mexicans. Within a few years, we may have a recession. Who will be working then ? And, who will be unemployed ?
We must be able to control our borders, and we must force the Congress to take action. While we're at it, we should teach the Congress how to stay in touch with us. Washington, DC does not need 535 representatives in Congress. Those jerks represent us, the American people, and we had better make that stick or all is lost.
Whether I vote or stay home will not be known by anyone but me. However, we have a weak republican party, let's take advantage of that fact.
A wall, a fence, armed guards, whatever, let's get it done.
Posted by: wxjames || 09/06/2006 16:28 Comments || Top||

#24  In short, you believe the Democrats that replace the Republicans in the House who didn't go along with the Senate's liberalizations will suddenly turn into anti-immigration activists?

Have you checked their actual positions on the matter?
Posted by: The Abdominalizer || 09/06/2006 18:05 Comments || Top||

#25  There is no "John Birch Nativist X-Treme!" party that's going to overturn both the Democrats and Republicans if you stay home.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowfucious || 09/06/2006 18:06 Comments || Top||

#26  And I know whether you vote or stay home won't be known to anyone but you. BUT... the press already has its headlines pre-written in case of a Republican loss. It's all about how The American People Are Tired Of War, and We Need An Exit Strategy...
Posted by: Abdominal Snowhorn || 09/06/2006 18:20 Comments || Top||

#27  You simultaneously say that the Republican Party is weak enough to be pressured, but want to punish it for not being strong enough to enforce its policies.

For all their stupid actual policies the guys at the Daily Kos actually had the right idea about Lieberman: they went and got someone to run against him in the primary. They came up with ways to move their party in the direction _they_ wanted, besides "Let The Republicans Win." Unfortunately they seem to have decided that that particular strategy would be about as sharp as a bag of wet chiroptera, and you know what? They're right.
Posted by: Abdominalhorn Snowhorn || 09/06/2006 18:24 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
French muscle for India’s missiles
France has agreed in principle to provide technology for Cruise missiles to India but neither side was willing to spell out their range.

Describing the development as a major boost to Indo-French "strategic relationship,'' Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee told journalists that a "decision has been taken to develop the Cruise missiles. But it has to be worked out what type they will be."

Mukherjee met French Defence Minister Michele-Alliot Marie for an hour on Monday. Since India's present arsenal includes Brahmos, with a range of nearly 300 km, the technology transfer and joint production India is seeking from Paris would mean anything above this — a limit that would invite the attention of the MTCR (missile technology control regime) and also a reaction from other countries.

But the Agreement on Technical Arrangement mentioned in Mukherjee's programme with Marie did not materialize because of a "technical'' hitch that needed the Cabinet Committee on Security's sanction. Perhaps to scotch speculations of the "hitch,'' Mukherjee said India and France had moved much beyond the "buyer-seller'' relationship --- a point echoed by Marie. There was enough indication that the agreement would be signed "very soon'' between India's DRDO and France's MBDA.

This would be "pathbreaking'' for India as it does not have any cooperation in missile development technology. France is perhaps looking at India to buy its 126 multi-role fighter aircraft in return. But the Mukherjee-Maria interaction showed there still existed perceptional gaps.

While India was looking to moving fast to seek the transfer of technology to close the technological gap, Marie favoured a systematic and step-by-step and evolutionary approach in tune with the expansion of India's technological base.

Mukherjee was also keen that France maintain the sanctity of the "strategic'' relationship'' between the two countries - something which is seen as not being observed when Paris sells the same sophisticated arms or missiles to Pakistan or China as well.

The talks focused on four major areas: defence cooperation, including joint production, co production, technology transfer and availability of spares as well as joint training, exercise and participation at an institutional level.
Posted by: john || 09/06/2006 19:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Doing some plain speaking at delegation-level talks yesterday, Mukherjee told the French defence top brass that they should declare their policy on transfer of critical technologies, and ensure that the strategic partnership between India and France was reflected in Paris' arms sales policies for China and Pakistan.

Very interesting... an attempt to restrain French tech transfer to China and Pakistan.
India has never acted like this before.. has Mukherjee received a wink and a nod from Condi Rice?

Posted by: john || 09/06/2006 19:54 Comments || Top||

#2  I thought that was interesting as well. India throwing it's weight around. I like it.
Posted by: phil_b || 09/06/2006 20:47 Comments || Top||


AQ Khan flies to Karachi today for surgery
Nuclear scientist Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan will fly to Karachi today (Wednesday) for a prostate cancer operation in Aga Khan Hospital, Online reported on Tuesday. Dr Khan's daughter Dina and granddaughter Tania will accompany him, while his daughter Aisha will arrive in Karachi later. Doctors have ascertained that the prostrate cancer has not affected other parts of Dr Khan's body, APP quoted a government statement as saying. It said that doctors agreed that radical prostectomy (surgery) was the best option compared to hormone therapy and radiotherapy, adding that Dr Khan and his family had been consulted in this regard.
Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Scalpel!
Posted by: Crutle Thromoper7421 || 09/06/2006 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2  rim shot
Posted by: Captain America || 09/06/2006 2:32 Comments || Top||

#3  That's right. Cut the nuts off, then insert the lightbulb up his ass just so it's easier to keep an eye on things.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 09/06/2006 2:43 Comments || Top||

#4  I liken Khan to Gavrilo Princip. When the Middle East goes up in nuclear flames, the name Abdul Qadeer Khan will be in the history books as the ultimate precipitating cause.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 09/06/2006 8:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Blow his plane out of the sky.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/06/2006 17:52 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Dupe entry: 'Iran claims AIDS research breakthrough
Iran claims AIDS research breakthrough

Ma, get the popcorn! Iran's announcing another one of its "breakthroughs"!

TEHRAN, Sept. 6 (UPI) -- Iran's Ministry of Health claimed to have made a medical breakthrough with a formula to control symptoms of AIDS.

But remember, only infidels get AIDS. This research is solely for the benefit of you infidels from the goodness of our hearts. Then we'll kill you.

The state-controlled IRNA news agency quoted an unidentified ministry employee as saying, "The research studies to find out a formula to cure AIDS was initiated during the tenure of two former health ministers and have led to useful results."

Useful for who? Or should it be "what"?

Former Minister of Health and Medical Education Dr. Mohammad Farhadi said the chemical and herbal treatment appeared effective on other immune disorders as well.

As long as you're a goat.

"The theory was to determine whether or not it is possible to boost the immunity system of the body. Some 60 projects were initiated to attain the result," Farhadi said in the IRNA report.

OK, Mahmoud, the eye of newt didn't work. Try giving the next goat some dillweed. And have Ahmadinahijab wear a condom next time. Call me when he's done. I can't watch.

The announcement came a day before an international meeting to discuss U.N. sanctions against Iran for refusing to curtail the enrichment of uranium or allow its monitoring.

Let us make bombs or we won't give you the secret formula and all your goats will die a horrible death, too . . . .
Posted by: gorb || 09/06/2006 16:05 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This will get sympathy for Iran from some people who are desperate for cures for nasty things.

To increase the numbers of maybe-the-crazy-Mullahs-aren't-so-bad-if-they-are-doing-all-this-cool-good-for-humanity-stuff hopefuls, Iran should next announce their mastery of other holy grail issues such as positive results from embrionic stem cell research, a cure for the common cold, controlled health care expenses, and curing, um infidelity.

Of course, if they announce a truly delicious powdered India Pale Ale, I might be tempeted to join the fan club, too!
Posted by: Hyper || 09/06/2006 18:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Of course, if they announce a truly delicious powdered India Pale Ale, I might be tempeted to join the fan club, too!

I can see the instructions now:

Put powder in pint glass. Add 1 pint IPA and voila!
Posted by: gorb || 09/06/2006 19:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Wow! Just like South African Garlic!
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 09/06/2006 20:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Just more proof they've been hangin' with Kimmie and his crowd....
Posted by: Ebbainter Grons9986 || 09/06/2006 22:17 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Fonda, Steinem and Rosie Challenge Rush, ‘Male Point of View'
Jane Fonda, Gloria Steinem, and Rosie O'Donnell are backing a new left-wing radio network that plans to appeal to women listeners and counter the dominance of conservative talk radio and its "male point of view."

The new talk-radio network is called GreenStone and will be officially launched on Sept. 12, 2006. Its Web site describes it as "a clear alternative to the polarizing, highly political talk commonly heard on AM radio."

Steinhem, in a recent interview with The New York Times, has also made clear that her network is at war with Rush Limbaugh for audience share.

"We know what women want," says GreenStone's mission statement, "and have the entertainment, political, social and business connections to deliver it . . . Our goal is to build the leading brand for women's talk programming."

What women want to hear on the radio, according to GreenStone's Web site list of topics, ranges from plastic surgery to feng shui, and from how to work at home to cooking and spring cleaning tips. "Women are ready for a new kind of talk that speaks directly to them on the issues they care about most," says GreenStone's Web site, quoting research it commissioned. "Women want ‘useful information,' something ‘lighter and more entertaining' than political talk shows . . . " The network says it will offer a "steady diet of entertainment, health and fitness, and relationships – delivered with lots of fun and laughter."

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Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/06/2006 14:22 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another liberal radio catwallering going off the air in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/06/2006 14:33 Comments || Top||

#2  and in other news, celebreties are narsisccistic. ( or something, who gives a rat's a55 anyway)
Posted by: USN, ret. || 09/06/2006 14:36 Comments || Top||

#3  "AM talk radio does not reflect the fact that only 30 percent of the country, at the most, is anywhere near Rush Limbaugh," Steinem said."

These women do not reflect the fact that only 3% of the country, at most, is anywhere near them.
Posted by: no mo uro || 09/06/2006 14:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Brings new meaning to "sticking it to the man".

Love the cute little power salute pic, LOL. Woooooo, such a badass, LOL.
Posted by: flyover || 09/06/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Steinhem, in a recent interview with The New York Times, has also made clear that her network is at war with Rush Limbaugh for audience share.

Hope they already have the surrender documents in order. Save everybody a lot of time.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 09/06/2006 14:59 Comments || Top||

#6  Greenstone: the talkradio that smells like old fish
Posted by: Frank G || 09/06/2006 15:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Radio Douchebag is on the air...all douchebag, all the time.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/06/2006 16:25 Comments || Top||

#8  "White males," Morgan wrote in a 1970 essay, "are most responsible for the destruction of human life and environment on the planet today."

Only maybe, but we're also responsible for the vast majority of inventions and scientific discoveries that have made life on this planet so comfortable. In feminine terms, let's just rattle off the oral contraceptive, the Pap smear, mammograms, legal divorce, universal suffrage and a host of other niceities. I doubt that the average citizen could even name the most famous of woman scientists, Madame Curie. Jane Goodall is one of the few others that springs to mind. However right or wrong, the vast majority of other women engineers or scientists simply do not show up on radar.

I do not preach any sort of male superiority by doing this. I do object to the constant vilification of white males by molly-coddled white females. They need to try living amongst some of the third world's non-white males for a while in order to gain an appreciation of what American institutions (specifically) entail in terms of women's rights.

Finally, when the final cost is added up on a historical and global basis, the environmental damage, criminal actions and wartime deaths caused by typically uneducated males of color could easily exceed that of the "white males."

I thank goodness that Jared Diamond wrote "Guns, Germs and Steel" so that there is no need to misconstrue the above writing as being in support of such a bigoted notion as "racial intelligence." There is simply a degree of barbarity and cruelty awaiting women outside American borders that would make them gasp in horror when compared to the life of respect and ease they have in America.

This in no way justifies the dispicable rates of rape, molestation and spousal abuse we have here in America. Yet, all of us should be proud to live in a country where religious auspices that promote institutionalized abuse of women, genital mutilation and other such abominations have been abolished.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/06/2006 16:39 Comments || Top||

#9  --"White males," Morgan wrote in a 1970 essay, "are most responsible for the destruction of human life and environment on the planet today."
--

Errr, how many abortions again?
Posted by: anonymous2u || 09/06/2006 16:58 Comments || Top||

#10  >> #6 Greenstone: the talkradio that smells like old fish

Riding broken-down bicycles.
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 09/06/2006 17:24 Comments || Top||

#11  Sorry, ladies, I'd still rather watch Spike TV. (Hey, those reruns of "Blind Date" crack me up!) ;)
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 09/06/2006 17:26 Comments || Top||

#12  So is Jane going to be interviewing her vagina every week?

How does Steinem feel about the talk being mainly about light stuff such as plastic surgery, feng shui, cooking and cleaning stuff -- you know womans stuff? As if women are incapable of engaging in political talk.....

(And no, I personally don't feel that way! But that is how I read this 'announcement'... I know personally (and by some of the posters here) that women can easly handle 'political' talk...)
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/06/2006 18:05 Comments || Top||

#13  Zen, I agree w/ you about conditions for women in 3rd world countries.

But do you REALLY have to descend to Morgan's level with lines like

but we're also responsible for the vast majority of inventions and scientific discoveries that have made life on this planet so comfortable. In feminine terms, let's just rattle off the oral contraceptive, the Pap smear, mammograms, legal divorce, universal suffrage and a host of other niceities. I doubt that the average citizen could even name the most famous of woman scientists, Madame Curie. Jane Goodall is one of the few others that springs to mind. However right or wrong, the vast majority of other women engineers or scientists simply do not show up on radar.

I do not preach any sort of male superiority by doing this.


Honestly. Keep it up and I'll start telling my stories about the responses I got while interviewing at top colleges as a potential math major in 1968. And about the time I was ready to file for a patent and my boss stepped in to claim it instead. (Turned out a patent couldn't be awarded that time. Company made a lot of money off of the work anyway.)

And that's a threat!! LOL
Posted by: lotp || 09/06/2006 18:19 Comments || Top||

#14  "I thank goodness that Jared Diamond wrote "Guns, Germs and Steel"

Aaaagh!

Zenster, normally your stuff is right on, but Diamond's premise of geographic determinism is a pile of guanaco dung.

GG&S is a collection of interesting factoids (lots of them - I actually enjoyed reading the book and learning them) which, unfortunately, when summed up do NOT prove Diamond's theory of geographic determinism.

His theory was blown out of the water - permanently - when Victor Davis Hanson published "Carnage and Culture", which essentially made the theory of geographic determinism obsolete in one fell swoop. Hanson proved that institutions, not who domesticated animals first, are the determining factor in outcomes of clashes between civilizations.

Also, Diamond spent much of that book slapping himself on the back for "exploding racist myths" while claiming that natives in New Guineas were actually more intelligent than Westerners.

Hypocrite.

Having said all that, I agree with your contempt for those who constantly vilify white males yet would be in rape camps or worse if not for those same white males. You don't need Diamond or his theories to know that this isn't the case, nor is it a bigoted statement to make. It's just the truth.

Posted by: no mo uro || 09/06/2006 19:14 Comments || Top||

#15  I agree with your contempt for those who constantly vilify white males yet would be in rape camps or worse if not for those same white males

Replace "white males" with "western Judeo/Christian civilization" and I agree wholeheartedly.
Posted by: lotp || 09/06/2006 19:38 Comments || Top||

#16  Zenster:

As a woman trapped for decades in a man's body, I too am disgusted and outraged by your highly insensitive, sexist comments. BTW, what is a ...... feng shoe?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/06/2006 19:42 Comments || Top||

#17  Besoeker, I am shocked, SHOCKED by your baseless accusations about Zen.
Posted by: lotp || 09/06/2006 19:50 Comments || Top||

#18  Whahahahahahaa
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/06/2006 19:52 Comments || Top||

#19  Gotta say that if I were a white male I'd be pretty pissed about the rhetoric these women spew too.

Hell, as a white female I can't stand them or their ideology.

Thought I should make that clear, if it isn't already. ;-)
Posted by: lotp || 09/06/2006 19:53 Comments || Top||

#20  "Sisterhood Is Powerful."

Morgan, who can't write. Powerful is an adjective and this is particularly yucky example of passive voice.
Posted by: phil_b || 09/06/2006 20:34 Comments || Top||

#21  George Bush and the US military have 'liberated' more females and built more schools for females than any of these self-centered Harpies have done in the last twenty years. To steal a quote, by the way Fonda -

A million and a half Cambodians couldn't be reached for comment.
Posted by: Phitch Ulavimp8613 || 09/06/2006 20:39 Comments || Top||

#22  But do you REALLY have to descend to Morgan's level with lines like

I just wanted to slam the door on any "chauvanist pig!" opposition, right from the get-go. I am an unapologetically white male, proud of it and happy to be me.

As a scientific person, I dread to consider all of the incredibly bright female minds that have been tossed against the (historically) near-impervious façade of male domination. One of my father's students was among the first women to apply to a major American veterinary school. She related to us about being told the usual; "Wouldn't you rather be the nurse instead of the doctor?" sort of bullshit.

One look at the struggle that women authors have gone through, as in Jane Austen, George Eliot and so forth, gives only a tiny glimpse of the wasted potential that has been lost over the ages in the various sciences. A short reading about the life of Ada Lovelace, better known as Lady Byron, is all that is needed to confirm this.

That the puny squabbling nits mentioned in the above article should even have the privilege to stand upon Lovelace's shoulders.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/06/2006 20:59 Comments || Top||

#23  Agreed. ;-)
Posted by: lotp || 09/06/2006 21:15 Comments || Top||

#24  Sounds all so very non-competitive and vagina friendly.
Posted by: badanov || 09/06/2006 21:47 Comments || Top||


New Republic Suspends an Editor for Attacks on Blog
A senior editor at The New Republic was suspended and his blog was shut down on Friday after revelations that he was involved in anonymously attacking readers who criticized his posts.

“Lee Siegel was suspended indefinitely from the magazine after a reader accused him of using a 'sock puppet,' or Internet alias, to attack his critics in the comments section of his blog...”
Lee Siegel, creator of the Lee Siegel on Culture blog for tnr.com, was suspended indefinitely from the magazine after a reader accused him of using a “sock puppet,” or Internet alias, to attack his critics in the comments section of his blog. An editor’s apology replaced the blog on the Web site, announcing that the blog would no longer be published and noting that The New Republic deeply regretted “misleading” its readers.

Franklin Foer, the New Republic’s editor, said in an interview that he first became aware of the accusations against Mr. Siegel on Thursday afternoon, after a colleague noticed a comment in the Talkback section of Mr. Siegel’s blog that accused him of using the alias “sprezzatura” to defend his articles and assail his critics. That comment, posted by a reader named “jhschwartz” on Aug. 27, said that “sprezzatura appears only to weigh in on TNR forums to admonish and taunt posters who dislike Lee Siegel” before concluding, “I would say with 99% confidence that ‘sprezzatura’ is a Siegel alias.”
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Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  “But we simply don’t tolerate the misleading of our readers.”

So when will you be applying this 'new' standard to the old print medium?
Posted by: Bobby || 09/06/2006 7:19 Comments || Top||


Blue-staters cheer CSNY anti-war rants
If your favorite uncles dropped in from out of town for a rare visit, you'd probably be surprised if the mood turned somber and they started lecturing you. You'd be downright shocked to find yourself enthralled with the strange turn the evening had taken. That's probably how most people felt in the packed house at First Midwest Bank Amphitheatre in Tinley Park as Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young raged on for three hours Sunday night.

“The granddaddy of rock's "supergroups" wore its lefty sentiments as a badge of honor during an endless tirade against President Bush and the Iraq war.”
The granddaddy of rock's "supergroups," touring for the third time as a quartet since Neil Young rejoined in 2000 after a 26-year absence, wore its lefty sentiments as a badge of honor during an endless tirade against President Bush and the Iraq war. Their opinions seemed to strike a unanimous chord. Even in blue-state Illinois, does everyone agree with Young's "Let's Impeach the President" sentiment? Apparently so. No one left. No one protested the blast. No one even shouted out for "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" or "Marrakesh Express," two of the chestnuts that didn't make the cut in the politically charged set.
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#1  "No one left" > in all likelihood, prob becuz the audience is aware Lefty celebrities will vote for it before voting against it before ... before... before................@etc.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/06/2006 1:34 Comments || Top||

#2  They were entertaining a bunch of old hippies, anyway. Why be shocked? It was a chance to relive their glory days, with "fighting the power/da Man", "free Huey", "make love not war", blah blah blah....

Besides....to Gen X and younger, most of us have never heard of these guys. You say the name "Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young" to us and most will think you are talking about some personal-injury law firm with an animal/cartoon mascot.
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 09/06/2006 5:19 Comments || Top||

#3  CSNY was never a supergroup. They fell apart from drugs and infighting long before they reached supergroup status. Neil Young ain't even an American, ha canadian. Crosby is only alive because he had enough money to buy his way to the front of an organ doner list. Stills and Nash are just there for the money and could probably care less about the message of dumbass young. A has been group doing reunion tours for old hippies and moonbats, and thats all. Next thing we'll hear is the Dixi bats will be opening for them.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/06/2006 8:29 Comments || Top||

#4  A million and a half Cambodians could not be reached for comment.
Posted by: Glomort Glons9693 || 09/06/2006 9:20 Comments || Top||

#5  I've moved on the greener pastures, literally: country music.

Dan and Jim Seals, and Kenny Rogers did, too. Why can't they?
Posted by: badanov || 09/06/2006 10:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Nothing new here. I went to a CSN concert in Park City, UT, in 1991 during the re-election campaign for Bush Sr. A full hour of vitriolic political rants, calling Bush Sr. everything from a nazi to a pig. Stephen Stills chimed in with this gem, as they were playing the intro to "Ohio": "I gotta message for George Herbert Walker Bush". (crowd applauds) "We're gonna see you fucking fired!" (crowd screams wildly). This went on and on.

Bottom line is they've always been this way. Dedicated hippies who never grew up.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/06/2006 11:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Great. Now we'll be seeing them PBS Oldies Pledge breaks.
Posted by: ed || 09/06/2006 11:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Too much drugs, drink, and assinine political statements circa 1960s...go away now, scoot
Posted by: Captain America || 09/06/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||


Home Front Economy
The hungry planet
As stocks run out and harvests fail, the world faces its worst crisis for 30 years
By Geoffrey Lean
Food supplies are shrinking alarmingly around the globe, plunging the world into its greatest crisis for more than 30 years. New figures show that this year's harvest will fail to produce enough to feed everyone on Earth, for the sixth time in the past seven years.
Just in time for me to go on that diet ...
Humanity has so far managed by eating its way through stockpiles built up in better times - but these have now fallen below the danger level.
I'm so confused. It seems like only yesterday that obesity was the greatest problem on earth. Or was it the day before?
Food prices have already started to rise as a result, and threaten to soar out of reach of many of the 4.2 billion people who live in the world's most vulnerable countries. And the new "green" drive to get cars to run on biofuels threatens to make food even scarcer and more expensive. The UN's Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) and the US Department of Agriculture (USDA), which produce the world's two main forecasts of the global crop production, both estimate that this year's grain harvest will fall for the second successive year. The FAO is still compiling its latest crop forecast - due to be published next month - but told The Independent on Sunday late last week that it looked like barely exceeding 2 billion tons, down from 2.38 billion last year, and 2.68 billion in 2004, although the world's appetite has continued to grow as its population rises.
So how much grain do we need? We can make a little less ethanol and pull back payments we make to farmers to idle land. I see opportunity here, but then again, I'm a capitalist.
Posted by: Fred || 09/06/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Izzat a Site Map link? Is that what was intended? Is this a test? LOL. :)

Got the munchies, think I'll go raid some food outlet with my big fat full capitalist's wallet...
Posted by: flyover || 09/06/2006 0:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Obviously its Dubya's fault - again. Iff only America would just adopt Socialism and OWG, world dictators wouldn't have to worry about feeding their hungry masses. You know, the reason why America, a nation that can feed itself + many others, is allowed to war for OWG but not govern its own OWG. America is allowed to feed the world while NOT telling world dictators how to govern, e.g. feed, their own people, nor to teach them to feed and care for themselves.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/06/2006 1:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Starvation is a political problem.

North Korea, Zimbabwe, Somalia,

Poor folks in democracies never seem to starve.
Posted by: john || 09/06/2006 10:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Lean is known as an environMENTAList journalist: aka a journalist with an agenda.

Gee, I guess the world food shortage is why retail bulk chicken prices rocketed to .39 a pound from .34 a pound.
Posted by: badanov || 09/06/2006 10:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Poor folks in democracies never seem to starve.

Cause they're obese.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/06/2006 10:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Poor folks in democracies never seem to starve

NOPE
Posted by: PHAT || 09/06/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Maybe if we increased the amount of US territory used to grow food from 2% to 3%, we could make up the difference. I know Kansas corn crops are down this year, but much of the midwest is doing quite well. If Afghanistan grew corn or wheat instead of opium poppies, the results would be different. If Zimbabwe and South Africa allowed FARMERS to farm, instead of taking their land away and giving it to "revolutionaries", the crop yields would be higher.

Frankly, I don't put much stock in anything the UK Independent publishes, and figures from the FAO are always slanted to the "gloom and doom" side. Let's see how the crop yields actually shake out, and the hard data made available, before we get into a tizzy.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/06/2006 16:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Poor folks in democracies never seem to starve.

Cause they're obese.


Awww, don't pour salt on my skinless ego, will you? Besides, I'm not fat, I'm big boned, really.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/06/2006 16:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Feh. Get back to me when the beer supply is in danger.


Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 09/06/2006 16:29 Comments || Top||

#10  I think we got it all mixed up. The problem is actually starving obese people.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/06/2006 16:44 Comments || Top||

#11  Starvation is a political problem.

Word, john. Like the Archer Midland Daniels commercial states, this world grows enough food to feed itself very nicely, it is merely political interests that prevent its proper distribution.

A fine example was when the Soviets finally had a huge grain harvest for once only to have carloads full of wheat sit and rot on railway sidings because the proper palms weren't being greased.

Aside from inclement weather patterns, look to this world's dictators and warlords whenever famine is announced.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/06/2006 22:19 Comments || Top||

#12  Hmm...Cindy Sheehan drops the 'fast' and all of a sudden there's a worldwide food shortage. Coincidence?
Posted by: Elmert Crosh5077 || 09/06/2006 23:06 Comments || Top||



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