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2006-09-06 India-Pakistan
Bill Roggio - "Abject Surrender" of North Waziristan
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Posted by Grunter 2006-09-06 11:58|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "- The Pakistani Military will not operate in North Waziristan, nor will it monitor actions the region."

Does this mean that the Paks will not interfere if NATO or SOCOM extend their operations into that area?
Posted by usmc6743 2006-09-06 12:42||   2006-09-06 12:42|| Front Page Top

#2 Does this mean that the Paks will not interfere if NATO or SOCOM extend their operations into that area?

Of course not. It means the Pakistani government has thrown its lot in with the terrorists.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-06 12:46|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-06 12:46|| Front Page Top

#3 Two words: black helicopters

"Who us? Piffle!"
Posted by mojo">mojo  2006-09-06 13:52||   2006-09-06 13:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Nuke it from space to be safe. Does Bush still want to sell weapons to Pakistan? If so How can it be justified? Things just got a whole lot worse.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-09-06 14:05|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]  2006-09-06 14:05|| Front Page Top

#5  Two words: black helicopters

Sounds like Clinton's "black ninjas".
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-06 14:06|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-06 14:06|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm seeing this reported very differently in different places, and the Pakistani ambassador to the US is flat out denying that his government's giving Osama sanctuary. (Check the transcript at the last link; I think part of the problem is that the interviewee is speaking in his second language and not expressing himself well.) I don't know what's going on, and it's probably a good idea to suspend judgment pending clarification.
Posted by Mike 2006-09-06 14:32||   2006-09-06 14:32|| Front Page Top

#7 "Piffle"? Oh, dear.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-09-06 14:36||   2006-09-06 14:36|| Front Page Top

#8 the Pakistani ambassador to the US is flat out denying that his government's giving Osama sanctuary.

You believe him?
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-09-06 15:10|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-09-06 15:10|| Front Page Top

#9 Pakistan should be prepared for more "violations of their sovereignty".

The sooner the better.
Posted by danking_70 2006-09-06 15:18||   2006-09-06 15:18|| Front Page Top

#10 I hope this is a rope-a-dope which allows the US-Coalition to enter the independent state of Waziristan without toppling the government of the independent state of Pakistan.
Posted by Tibor 2006-09-06 17:04|| http://incompetenttibor.blogspot.com]">[http://incompetenttibor.blogspot.com]  2006-09-06 17:04|| Front Page Top

#11 How do you tall a islamic persion is lying to an 'unbeliever'? His lips are moving. This is a bad deal. Start the Carpet bombing.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-09-06 17:45|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]  2006-09-06 17:45|| Front Page Top

#12 Hat Tip to Dan D.

Afghan observers believe Pakistan's peace deal tool to misguide world

IAP20060906950064 Kabul Tolu Television in Dari 1330 GMT 06 Sep 06

Afghan observers believe Pakistan's peace deal tool to misguide world

Text of report by Afghan independent Tolo TV on 6 September

[Presenter] A number of Afghan observers and MPs criticized the
government of Pakistan for signing a peace pact with Taleban militants
in Northern Waziristan.

According to this agreement, the Pakistani government has agreed to
release a number of tribal leaders who were arrested on charges of
having links with the Taleban and Al Qa'idah and in return the
militants and tribal leaders promised not to cross the Afghan border or
attack the Pakistani security forces.

[Reporter] Afghan observers believe that the Pakistani government has
now admitted to involvement in the internal affairs of Afghanistan.
They believe that Pakistani officials have close links with the rebels
and the recent peace pact with the militants is shows this country's
support for the rebels.

[Unidentified Afghan MP in Pashto] It is obvious that Pakistan is fully
aware of developments on its borders with Afghanistan. Now Pakistan has
admitted that some Taleban or militants cross Pakistan's borders and
carry out attacks against the government in Afghanistan. That is why
this country tries to deceive the world and the Afghans by signing a
peace pact with rebels.

There is no doubt that Pakistan has been interfering in our country's
affairs and this country will continue its interference in the future.
A weak and vulnerable Afghanistan in the region is considered one of
the priorities and strategies of Pakistan.

[Second unidentified observer in Dari] How could the Pakistani
government arrange negotiations with rebels and make them sign an
agreement before the arrival of Mr Musharraf [Pakistani president] to
Afghanistan? I believe that before his departure to Kabul, Pervez
Musharraf urged or probably ordered tribal leaders to sign the pact.

The Pakistani president is trying to draw the attention of Afghanistan
as well as the world community to this point. In fact, he wants to
introduce it as a significant achievement in the fight against
terrorists. Nonetheless, this shows that there is a close link between
the government of Pakistan and the militants in Waziristan.

[Reporter] In today's news conference with the commander of NATO in
Kabul, President Karzai said that this issue [Pakistan's peace pact
with tribal leaders] was quite important and added that he would
clarify the issue in a meeting with his Pakistani counterpart.

[President Karzai in Dari] I was informed about the issue through the
media yesterday. I do not have full details from our own sources. This
raises more hope. At the same time, this is also a matter of concern
for us.

[Description of Source: Kabul Tolu Television in Dari -- Independent
television]
Posted by 3dc 2006-09-06 22:51||   2006-09-06 22:51|| Front Page Top

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