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2006-09-06 Home Front: Culture Wars
Fonda, Steinem and Rosie Challenge Rush, ‘Male Point of View'
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Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-09-06 14:22|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Another liberal radio catwallering going off the air in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...
Posted by DarthVader 2006-09-06 14:33||   2006-09-06 14:33|| Front Page Top

#2 and in other news, celebreties are narsisccistic. ( or something, who gives a rat's a55 anyway)
Posted by USN, ret. 2006-09-06 14:36||   2006-09-06 14:36|| Front Page Top

#3 "AM talk radio does not reflect the fact that only 30 percent of the country, at the most, is anywhere near Rush Limbaugh," Steinem said."

These women do not reflect the fact that only 3% of the country, at most, is anywhere near them.
Posted by no mo uro 2006-09-06 14:40||   2006-09-06 14:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Brings new meaning to "sticking it to the man".

Love the cute little power salute pic, LOL. Woooooo, such a badass, LOL.
Posted by flyover 2006-09-06 14:45||   2006-09-06 14:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Steinhem, in a recent interview with The New York Times, has also made clear that her network is at war with Rush Limbaugh for audience share.

Hope they already have the surrender documents in order. Save everybody a lot of time.
Posted by Dreadnought 2006-09-06 14:59||   2006-09-06 14:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Greenstone: the talkradio that smells like old fish
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-09-06 15:25||   2006-09-06 15:25|| Front Page Top

#7 Radio Douchebag is on the air...all douchebag, all the time.
Posted by tu3031 2006-09-06 16:25||   2006-09-06 16:25|| Front Page Top

#8 "White males," Morgan wrote in a 1970 essay, "are most responsible for the destruction of human life and environment on the planet today."

Only maybe, but we're also responsible for the vast majority of inventions and scientific discoveries that have made life on this planet so comfortable. In feminine terms, let's just rattle off the oral contraceptive, the Pap smear, mammograms, legal divorce, universal suffrage and a host of other niceities. I doubt that the average citizen could even name the most famous of woman scientists, Madame Curie. Jane Goodall is one of the few others that springs to mind. However right or wrong, the vast majority of other women engineers or scientists simply do not show up on radar.

I do not preach any sort of male superiority by doing this. I do object to the constant vilification of white males by molly-coddled white females. They need to try living amongst some of the third world's non-white males for a while in order to gain an appreciation of what American institutions (specifically) entail in terms of women's rights.

Finally, when the final cost is added up on a historical and global basis, the environmental damage, criminal actions and wartime deaths caused by typically uneducated males of color could easily exceed that of the "white males."

I thank goodness that Jared Diamond wrote "Guns, Germs and Steel" so that there is no need to misconstrue the above writing as being in support of such a bigoted notion as "racial intelligence." There is simply a degree of barbarity and cruelty awaiting women outside American borders that would make them gasp in horror when compared to the life of respect and ease they have in America.

This in no way justifies the dispicable rates of rape, molestation and spousal abuse we have here in America. Yet, all of us should be proud to live in a country where religious auspices that promote institutionalized abuse of women, genital mutilation and other such abominations have been abolished.
Posted by Zenster 2006-09-06 16:39||   2006-09-06 16:39|| Front Page Top

#9 --"White males," Morgan wrote in a 1970 essay, "are most responsible for the destruction of human life and environment on the planet today."
--

Errr, how many abortions again?
Posted by anonymous2u 2006-09-06 16:58||   2006-09-06 16:58|| Front Page Top

#10 >> #6 Greenstone: the talkradio that smells like old fish

Riding broken-down bicycles.
Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2006-09-06 17:24||   2006-09-06 17:24|| Front Page Top

#11 Sorry, ladies, I'd still rather watch Spike TV. (Hey, those reruns of "Blind Date" crack me up!) ;)
Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-09-06 17:26|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com ]  2006-09-06 17:26|| Front Page Top

#12 So is Jane going to be interviewing her vagina every week?

How does Steinem feel about the talk being mainly about light stuff such as plastic surgery, feng shui, cooking and cleaning stuff -- you know womans stuff? As if women are incapable of engaging in political talk.....

(And no, I personally don't feel that way! But that is how I read this 'announcement'... I know personally (and by some of the posters here) that women can easly handle 'political' talk...)
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-09-06 18:05||   2006-09-06 18:05|| Front Page Top

#13 Zen, I agree w/ you about conditions for women in 3rd world countries.

But do you REALLY have to descend to Morgan's level with lines like

but we're also responsible for the vast majority of inventions and scientific discoveries that have made life on this planet so comfortable. In feminine terms, let's just rattle off the oral contraceptive, the Pap smear, mammograms, legal divorce, universal suffrage and a host of other niceities. I doubt that the average citizen could even name the most famous of woman scientists, Madame Curie. Jane Goodall is one of the few others that springs to mind. However right or wrong, the vast majority of other women engineers or scientists simply do not show up on radar.

I do not preach any sort of male superiority by doing this.


Honestly. Keep it up and I'll start telling my stories about the responses I got while interviewing at top colleges as a potential math major in 1968. And about the time I was ready to file for a patent and my boss stepped in to claim it instead. (Turned out a patent couldn't be awarded that time. Company made a lot of money off of the work anyway.)

And that's a threat!! LOL
Posted by lotp 2006-09-06 18:19||   2006-09-06 18:19|| Front Page Top

#14 "I thank goodness that Jared Diamond wrote "Guns, Germs and Steel"

Aaaagh!

Zenster, normally your stuff is right on, but Diamond's premise of geographic determinism is a pile of guanaco dung.

GG&S is a collection of interesting factoids (lots of them - I actually enjoyed reading the book and learning them) which, unfortunately, when summed up do NOT prove Diamond's theory of geographic determinism.

His theory was blown out of the water - permanently - when Victor Davis Hanson published "Carnage and Culture", which essentially made the theory of geographic determinism obsolete in one fell swoop. Hanson proved that institutions, not who domesticated animals first, are the determining factor in outcomes of clashes between civilizations.

Also, Diamond spent much of that book slapping himself on the back for "exploding racist myths" while claiming that natives in New Guineas were actually more intelligent than Westerners.

Hypocrite.

Having said all that, I agree with your contempt for those who constantly vilify white males yet would be in rape camps or worse if not for those same white males. You don't need Diamond or his theories to know that this isn't the case, nor is it a bigoted statement to make. It's just the truth.

Posted by no mo uro 2006-09-06 19:14||   2006-09-06 19:14|| Front Page Top

#15 I agree with your contempt for those who constantly vilify white males yet would be in rape camps or worse if not for those same white males

Replace "white males" with "western Judeo/Christian civilization" and I agree wholeheartedly.
Posted by lotp 2006-09-06 19:38||   2006-09-06 19:38|| Front Page Top

#16 Zenster:

As a woman trapped for decades in a man's body, I too am disgusted and outraged by your highly insensitive, sexist comments. BTW, what is a ...... feng shoe?
Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-06 19:42||   2006-09-06 19:42|| Front Page Top

#17 Besoeker, I am shocked, SHOCKED by your baseless accusations about Zen.
Posted by lotp 2006-09-06 19:50||   2006-09-06 19:50|| Front Page Top

#18 Whahahahahahaa
Posted by Besoeker 2006-09-06 19:52||   2006-09-06 19:52|| Front Page Top

#19 Gotta say that if I were a white male I'd be pretty pissed about the rhetoric these women spew too.

Hell, as a white female I can't stand them or their ideology.

Thought I should make that clear, if it isn't already. ;-)
Posted by lotp 2006-09-06 19:53||   2006-09-06 19:53|| Front Page Top

#20 "Sisterhood Is Powerful."

Morgan, who can't write. Powerful is an adjective and this is particularly yucky example of passive voice.
Posted by phil_b 2006-09-06 20:34||   2006-09-06 20:34|| Front Page Top

#21 George Bush and the US military have 'liberated' more females and built more schools for females than any of these self-centered Harpies have done in the last twenty years. To steal a quote, by the way Fonda -

A million and a half Cambodians couldn't be reached for comment.
Posted by Phitch Ulavimp8613 2006-09-06 20:39||   2006-09-06 20:39|| Front Page Top

#22 But do you REALLY have to descend to Morgan's level with lines like

I just wanted to slam the door on any "chauvanist pig!" opposition, right from the get-go. I am an unapologetically white male, proud of it and happy to be me.

As a scientific person, I dread to consider all of the incredibly bright female minds that have been tossed against the (historically) near-impervious façade of male domination. One of my father's students was among the first women to apply to a major American veterinary school. She related to us about being told the usual; "Wouldn't you rather be the nurse instead of the doctor?" sort of bullshit.

One look at the struggle that women authors have gone through, as in Jane Austen, George Eliot and so forth, gives only a tiny glimpse of the wasted potential that has been lost over the ages in the various sciences. A short reading about the life of Ada Lovelace, better known as Lady Byron, is all that is needed to confirm this.

That the puny squabbling nits mentioned in the above article should even have the privilege to stand upon Lovelace's shoulders.
Posted by Zenster 2006-09-06 20:59||   2006-09-06 20:59|| Front Page Top

#23 Agreed. ;-)
Posted by lotp 2006-09-06 21:15||   2006-09-06 21:15|| Front Page Top

#24 Sounds all so very non-competitive and vagina friendly.
Posted by badanov 2006-09-06 21:47|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2006-09-06 21:47|| Front Page Top

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