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2004-07-14 Israel-Palestine

Muslim Brotherhood to Thwart Gaza Evacuation? (Debka)

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Posted by PlanetDan 2004-07-14 12:31:31 PM|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Debka does get some interesting scoops, but boy howdy do they ever twist them up with their own wishful thinking.
For example, they are good at analyzing the Byzantine plots of the various players in the middle east, but fall flat on their faces when trying to interpret the motives and actions of outsiders. And this skews their predictions, whenever an outsider is involved in the equation.

They are not alone in this problem. The Israeli military was taken completely by surprise at how the Americans conducted their Iraq campaign, and how they followed that campaign up, and with such unpredicted success. The Israelis assumed that the Americans and the Iraqis would behave just like they and the Palestinians did. That their motives, techniques, tactics and strategies were the same. And they were terribly wrong.

(The Isreali military was also horrified to discover that they had only miniscule penetration into US strategy and tactics--the US military, if it wanted to, could very effectively keep secrets from the Israelis. This resulted in their having to make a major commitment to ground intelligence in Iraq, with very little warning.)

So, again, try to separate what Debka is objectively reporting from what they are assuming and projecting for the future.

Posted by Anonymoose 2004-07-14 2:07:58 PM|| 2004-07-14 2:07:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Good assessment of Debka, Anonymoose. I also find their work to be a little too skewed by wishful thinking and unwarranted supposition. They manage some excellent scoops but tend to taint them with their own agenda a little much.

This is the first time . . . the Muslim Brotherhood . . . has crossed the line between radical doctrinal rhetoric and operational violence, threatening Israel, the Palestinian areas - and Arab governments too - with a campaign of terror.

Methinks another major crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood will be forthcoming in Egypt. No sense in letting them rock the boat during any power transition. It also appears as though the Brotherhood is about to piss off everyone and their grandmother. All the better I suppose, although one hopes the Palestinian people would realize how this merely foretells increased misery for them (difficult as that is to imagine). I suppose it will be hard for them to tell if conditions deteriorate since they are living in stone-age poverty already.

At least a nice power struggle over the last few remaining chickens in the Palestinian coop will give their people ringside seats to view exactly why their so-called "state" continues to shrink in size and is no closer to manifesting politically after decades of bloody struggle.

Anyone want to bet that a shred of this will get through to them?

[crickets chirping]

Posted by Zenster 2004-07-14 2:45:26 PM|| 2004-07-14 2:45:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I fail to see how the Moslim brotherhood could stop Israel from pulling out. Attacks won't do anything to stop it since the plan is announced the pullout won't be seen as appeasment. The attacks could however convince settlers to move quicker to get out of Gaza.

Perhaps they are planning a charm offensive. Passing out flowers and singing songs to the settlers hoping to convince them to stay.

Posted by yank 2004-07-14 3:40:16 PM|| [politicaljunky.blogspot.com] 2004-07-14 3:40:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Muslim Brotherhood logic:

"We want all of the Jews off of our land, or we will kill you all."

"'Kay. We're out of here. See you around the oasis."

"No! Come back or we will kill you all!"

Posted by Mike 2004-07-14 4:36:14 PM|| 2004-07-14 4:36:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Any arab with strategic thinking (now there's a phrase) realizes that Israel's plan to disengage from the Paleos and isolate them with a wall makes the effectiveness of the Paleos as a dagger in the underbelly of Israel minimal. The Paleos will just become a backwater in their designs on Israel. Since the Paleos are no longer useful idiots, their funding will dry up and they will be the forgotten ~~messes~~ masses, bypassed by new venues and situations.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-07-14 4:46:34 PM|| 2004-07-14 4:46:34 PM|| Front Page Top

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