Saudi schoolchildren are being taught to disparage Christianity and Judaism in a textbook issued by the education ministry, a report said yesterday. The book forms part of the kingdom's revised curriculum - supposedly cleaned up after complaints that demonising the west had become endemic in Saudi schools. A lesson for six-year-olds reads: "All religions other than Islam are false." A note for teachers says they should "ensure to explain" this point. The Saudi Institute, a Washington-based pro-reform group, said yesterday the book, Monotheism and Fiqh, contradicted the Koran. "The Saudi contention that Judaism and Christianity are false religions is clearly refuted by the Koran," it says in a report, quoting a verse. The kingdom reviewed its textbooks after revelations that 15 of the September 11 hijackers had been Saudi-educated. One textbook had urged teenagers not to befriend Christians or Jews: "Emulation of the infidels leads to loving them, glorifying them and raising their status in the eyes of the Muslim, and that is forbidden." Damn cult!
Last year the foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, said there was "no room in our schools for hatred, intolerance or for anti-western thinking". Officials announced two pilot programmes to develop new teaching methods. Rubbish!
But the Saudi Institute said yesterday there was no evidence the pilot programmes had taken place. The new curriculum, it said, had "the same authors and the same ideas" as the old one, but in different language. The sooner the so-called House of Sa'ud falls, the better for mankind!
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I agree with your opinion of the Sa'ud tribe but if they fall now the most likely successors will be even worse.
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I am sure that the Bush Administration has been grappling with the issue that Kathy K brings up. If we can get Iraq going forward, even if not on all cylinders toward something other then dictatorship or Mullocracy, then we have a wedge for change for the good. News will spread around and the idea may bear good fruit. It will take time and patience, which we collectively have a limited amount shown, but who knows?
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However worse the follow-ups are they will not be so western savy as the Sauds and thus less treacherous. The problem, of course, is the oil. Hopefully we'll have all the oil in Russia, Venezuela and Iraq running at full flow before the Saudi's fall.
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If the house of Saud falls, who else but Al Qaeda will take control? They, and the Wahabis are already the center of power.
So, we have AQ owning the Saudi oilfields. How long will the U.S. tolerate this?
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Come on, Mike, say it: the Sauds own President Bush, which explains why he has NEVER done anything contrary to Saud wishes. I was attacking the Bush-Saud family business here, long before Michael Moore jumped in. Bush-slavery jeopardizes Americans and those who deny it, rhetorically spit on the graves of the war dead.
The Saudi cleric who mediated the surrender of an Osama bin Laden confidant said Wednesday that extra time was needed to persuade more militants to comply with a state amnesty announced last month.
(stall game)
"We feel a bit pressed and that time is not enough," Safar al-Hawaly, 49, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from the southern Saudi province of al-Baha. (More baloney)
On June 23, King Fahd offered an amnesty to militants who surrendered within a month of the announcement, saying they would not face the death penalty if they turned themselves in. The offer followed a spate of deadly al-Qaida-linked attacks in Saudi Arabia targeting foreign interests and state authorities. A U.S. citizen -- engineer Paul M. Johnson Jr. -- was abducted in June and beheaded. Al-Hawaly said Khaled al-Harby, a confidant of bin Laden who returned to Saudi Arabia from Iran on Tuesday in response to the amnesty, had contacted him before surrendering. Al-Hawaly said he supervised the talks regarding al-Harby's return to the kingdom. Al-Hawaly said he and numerous other negotiators have contacted Saudi officials and requested that the amnesty be extended. "We have talked to officials about that, but the decision is theirs and we can only hope for the best," al-Hawaly told the AP, adding that if he was given more time, "at least a handful of others will surrender." The cleric said he was "very, very" optimistic that if the amnesty was extended, terror attacks in Saudi Arabia would stop.
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Bahrain says it has arrested seven men on suspicion of planning bombings of government and economic sites in the pro-Western Gulf Arab state, including six suspects briefly detained last month. The move comes after the United States warned of possible attacks in Bahrain, headquarters of the U.S. Navy Fifth Fleet, and issued a mandatory evacuation order for some U.S. citizens. The Bahraini Interior Ministry said in a statement on Wednesday that the men were taken back into custody after authorities found evidence in confiscated computers that they had "completed their plan and prepared to carry out terrorist operations". "They planned to carry out bombings on some government, economic and tourist facilities to spread chaos and fear and harm the national economy and foreign investments," it said.
Six of the men were arrested late last month on suspicion of supporting Saudi-born Osama bin Ladenâs al Qaeda and planning attacks, but were freed due to lack of evidence at the time. Abdullah Hashim, a lawyer representing four of the detainees, said the charges were politically motivated. "All the information given is old and was extracted last year when some of them were first arrested on similar charges," he told Reuters. "The charges have been revived due to the U.S. move to recall nationals from Bahrain. It seems thereâs some pressure from the U.S. on the Bahrain government to take extra care in dealing with this case."
The Interior Ministry said that after the men were originally released, the authorities had continued to search the seized computers and test chemicals found in their possession. "The computers had files on how to make weapons, explosives, poison and chemical substances and how to obtain and use them," the ministry said. "The evidence showed the men subscribe to an ideology that encourages use of explosives to harm national and foreign interests. They identified locations and photographed them and used codes to contact each other and extremist organisations abroad," it added without elaborating.
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hmmmmm and what nationality were they? Norwegians?
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Ash-Sharq al-Awsat quoted an unnamed source from the Iranian presidential office as saying that the surrender of a top al-Qaida leader, Khaled al-Harbi, to the Saudi embassy in Iran on Tuesday came after pressure from President Mohammad Khatami on the conservative Revolutionary Guards to hand over terrorists sought by the Saudis. The source said the intelligence of the Revolutionary Guards had initially resisted pressure to hand over al-Qaida elements to the Iranian Security Ministry, saying the Guards were being supported by the Iranian conservative and religious leaders. He added the Republican Guards responded after Saudi Arabia and Iran recently signed a judicial cooperation memorandum calling for handing over wanted suspects to each other. The source said that al-Harbi was informed two weeks ago that a decision was made to hand him over to the Saudi authorities. Al-Harbi, he added, was told to either surrender voluntarily to the Saudi embassy in Tehran or be forcefully taken to Saudi Arabia, of which he chose the first option.
So, what is al-Harbi wanted by the Saudis for? As far as I have read, he's been out of the country for years as a spiritual supporter of al-Qaeda. Fox News had somebody on yesterday saying the US didn't have any charges against him, he was just a cheerleader, of sorts. Any ideas?
The London-based al-Quds al-Arabi reported Wednesday that an Iraqi court convicted a prominent member of the Iraqi National Congress and top aide to the INC leader, Ahmed Chalabi, for abusing power in the disappearance of 36 billion Iraqi dinars during the process of changing the old dinar to the new currency. The independent Palestinian-owned daily said the court sentenced Sabah Nouri Ibrahim Salem to 4œ years in prison, saying he worked as the office director of the finance minister in the postwar Iraqi government. Meanwhile, the paper also quoted former Iraqi Governing Council member Mohammad Bahr al-Uloum as accusing former U.S. administrator to Iraq, Paul Bremer, of "stealing more than $250 billion of Iraqi funds represented by deposits and large reserves." Bahr al-Uloum said Bremer left Iraq after "he turned it into a poor-budget state" and accused him of practicing "backwardness and dictatorship on the Governing Council members that very much resembled the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein." The former official insisted that if Bremer "could have prevented us from drinking water, he would have done so."
Yeah, whatever
The London-based Arabic daily, ash-Sharq al-Awsat, quoted the INC's Ahmad Chalabi as also accusing Bremer of having violated the U.N. Security Council resolution on Iraq and other agreements reached with Iraqi leaders at the time the Governing Council was formed last year. Chalabi told the Saudi-owned paper that Bremer was involved in violations regarding the Iraqi Development Fund, but did not elaborate. He said his differences with the U.S. administration began to escalate when the Americans insisted on nominating Lakhdar Brahimi, the U.N. special envoy to Iraq, to help in the formation of the new Iraqi government. He said he fiercely opposed such a role for Brahimi, claiming the U.S. presidential envoy to Iraq, Robert Blackwell, had told him to either support Brahimi or face a confrontation with the United States.
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By ABDULLAH AL-SHIHRI (AP) - Jul 13, 11:33 PM EDT
A confidant of Osama bin Laden, seen on a videotape with the al-Qaida chief as he talked about the Sept. 11 terror attacks, surrendered to Saudi diplomats in Iran and was flown to the kingdom Tuesday. Khaled bin Ouda bin Mohammed al-Harby, a potentially valuable asset in the war on terror because of his closeness to bin Laden, was shown on Saudi TV being pushed in a wheelchair through the Riyadh airport. Al-Harby is the most important figure to surface under a Saudi amnesty promising to spare the lives of militants who turn themselves in. "Thank God, thank God ... I called the embassy and we were very well-received," al-Harby told Saudi TV in the airport terminal. "I have come obeying God, and obeying the (kingdom's) rulers." Rough. Private jet. No cops. Yep, he's really in for it now.
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The claim that Baghdad sought nuclear material in Africa was not based solely on forged documents, a British inquiry into pre-Iraq war intelligence found on Wednesday. "Weâve looked at the intelligence on which the assessment was made and that intelligence did not rest on the forged documents, which only came to the attention of the Secret Intelligence Service subsequently," inquiry chairman Lord Butler told reporters.
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The intelligence used to make the case for war with Iraq is now doubted, the Butler inquiry has concluded. In a 196 page report it says MI6 did not check its sources well enough, and sometimes relied on third hand reports. It also says the 2002 dossier should not have included the claim Iraq could use WMD within 45 minutes, without explaining what that meant. Lord Butler's team says ministers and officials and the intelligence agencies should have re-assessed the information as it become increasingly clear that UN Inspectors were not finding any WMD in the months immediately before the war. The inquiry concludes there was no evidence of "deliberate distortion" of intelligence by politicians. Lord Butler said the prime minister "acted in good faith".
Links to .pdf file of full report at BBC site.
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Professional football clubs are meeting police and firefighters to discuss planning for a chemical, biological or nuclear attack. Malcolm Millichap, event organiser, said there had been no specific threat but a terrorist attack at a large sporting event was a real possibility. And he urged football clubs to write a contingency plan in preparation. Mr Millichap, an emergency planning consultant for Stoke City Council, admitted it would be impossible to thoroughly check all spectators entering the ground. But he said: "What you can do is have a plan, have a contingency plan that will deal with the possible problems that could arise." Modern football grounds were designed to evacuate quickly and in the case of the Britannia stadium in Stoke, which can hold up to 28,000 people, the time set for this was eight minutes, he said. But clubs needed to prepare for the event of a chemical attack and possible contamination risks. "A dirty bomb is always a possibility but the easiest thing for a terrorist to do would be to make a sarin gas attack, as they did in Tokyo on the underground system. Itâs not difficult to make such a device. Itâs fairly cheap and why attack a military installation when you can attack a sports stadium?" Given Islamistsâ preference for soft civilian targets, Iâd think it much more likely.
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.. and given the actions of Stoke and Oldham fans in Oldham a couple of years back. Nothing will hasten the irradication of the fundies more quickly than attacking football fans in an unpleasant manner. Those dudes nabbed in Manchester all had tickets to the Man Utd / Liverpool derby game, I believe.
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One 'dude' had shaved off all his body hair in preparation for martyrdom and the 72 vs 1 gangbang - and we get told: 'Nothing to see here' - it's-a-coming, just a question of when.
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To get truly "clean", they should get the hair waxed off....bet that would really cut down on jihad volunteers ;-)
via Reuters Breaking News
Tue 13 July, 2004 21:56
A terminally ill Egyptian suspected of links to Osama bin Laden and involvement in bomb attacks on U.S. embassies in Africa will be freed on bail, a High Court judge has ruled. Mr Justice Collins said on Tuesday the 42-year-old, who can only be identified as Mr X because of the risk of vigilante attacks, was being allowed free "for a very good reason" because he had bone marrow cancer and wanted to be reunited with his family.
Great! Does that mean his victims can be reunited with their families, too?
The United States wants Mr X extradited on charges relating to the 1998 bombings of its embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in which more than 200 people were killed. U.S. government lawyers have described him as an instrumental figure in bin Laden's "holy war" against the United States. In his ruling, the judge urged Home Secretary David Blunkett to make a final decision on extradition as soon as possible. Mr X has been detained at the maximum-security Broadmoor hospital and will be subject to stringent bail conditions upon his release. He will have to live at a designated address and his phone calls and contacts will be limited because of fears he might contact sympathisers of bin Laden's al Qaeda network, the judge said. A Home Office spokesman said Blunkett did not oppose the bail application, as long as the conditions were imposed.
None of the dead people oppose it, either. Nothing to worry about there...
The spokesman said Mr X's extradition was still pending after Blunkett last week rejected a request from his lawyers that it be waived on health grounds. "The home secretary will not comment in detail on the substance of his decision, apart from to say he weighed up the solicitor's representations and the medical evidence and concluded that they were outweighed by other factors, including the serious terrorist offences of which Mr X stands accused," the spokesman said. In response to the judge's call for extradition to be settled, the spokesman added: "If we could have concluded this case earlier, we would have done." He said Mr X was due to be released on Wednesday. UK Laws and Cabinet officials appear to be a deadly combination - for UK residents.
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"High Court judge ... Mr Justice Collins said on Tuesday the 42-year-old ... was being allowed free "for a very good reason" because he had bone marrow cancer and wanted to be reunited with his family."
Anyone else seen footage of the immediate aftermath of those attacks in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi? Hundreds dead, hundreds more horrifically injured. It's hard to forget the sight of a wounded man whose face has been ripped off his skull. Mercy? Special treatment? I don't think so.
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Showed Mr. X a helluva lot more compassion then he showed over 200 people. Hope it's really painful.
What are the odds that Allah the Merciful bestows a sudden miracle cure?
Given the Islamic propensity for suicide bombing, does it really seem wise to let a terminally ill man already convicted of bombing loose on the streets?
Unless this fellow is literally unable to breathe without a machine, this could be a huge mistake.
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Nine Afghan men arrested after a hijacking incident at Stansted Airport have won the right to stay in the UK. They were jailed in 2001 for hijacking an Afghan Ariana Boeing 727. ... A hearing has found that though the Home Office was right to refuse asylum, the men should not have faced deportation to Afghanistan.
Um, if they don't get asylum and they don't get deported, just exactly what do you do with them?
A spokeswoman for the Home Office said the Immigration Appellate Authority had ruled that the men would be in danger of attack from members of the Taleban if they were deported. "It said to return them would be contrary to the European Convention on Human Rights," she said. The spokeswoman said the Home Office would be appealing against this part of the decision. ... But under the Home Officeâs own rules, failed asylum seekers from Afghanistan can only be returned if they are from the region of the capital, Kabul. Official government assessors accept that despite the fall of the Taleban, the rest of the country remains too dangerous for returns because of continued divisions and power struggles between different groups. Refugee groups continue to oppose forced returns to Kabul, which are continuing in small numbers, saying no area of the country is entirely safe. ....
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Oh, f-in great. Some turbans nick a plane, fly it to Stansted (a dumb move if ever there was one), get wined and dined for three years at my expense and then get leave to stay because of that PoS Human f-in Rights law!
Not happy about this. Not f-in happy at all! (can you tell?)
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Good question. If they failed the asylum test, are they still hijackers? Or just failed asylum seekers?
WTF was it that they were fleeing that they felt they had to threaten to: "kill passengers and crew" to gain asylum?
The threat of death by Taliban upon return to Afghanistan can be seen as a result of fleeing the Taliban, or simply fleeing.
Welcome to the bizarr-o world that is the Beeb--causation is simply suspended; all is as it is, forever henceafter.
"They're here, now we have to deal with them."
"How did they get here, and why?"
"Oh, that's largely irrelevant."
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I don't understand why we stilll have large numbers of Iraqis in the UK either, Tony. At the very least the more recent arrivals should be returned to help build a brighter future for their mother country. Methinks our benefits system is way too generous.
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They got 7/11's in the UK? I see 9 potential employees.
Australia's Labour Party opposition has pledged greater engagement with Southeast Asia in the war on terror in a new defence strategy aimed at mending relations with the United States. It has also made Kim Beazley its defence spokesman in a move calculated to repair the party's relationship with Washington, which has been damaged by Labour's pledge to withdraw troops from Iraq if it wins elections this year. Nicknamed "Bomber" Beazley for his days as a strident defence minister from 1984 to 1990, he is a personal friend of US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.
Neil James, executive director of the Australian Defence Association, a think tank, predicted Beazley would bring a more thorough defence policy. "It (Beazley) will be very comforting news for the Americans and for many Australians," James told Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio Tuesday. Labour Party Leader Mark Latham detailed Monday a national security policy that would look beyond the 53-year-old United States-Australia defence alliance in the war on terror. Ahead of the polls, Labour is keen to undermine Prime Minister John Howard's advantage of close relations with the United States and a national security track record forged in his response to the Sept. 11, 2001, al-Qaida attacks on Washington and New York. "Australia must engage more effectively with Asia," Latham said in a speech to the Institute of International Affairs in Sydney. "In the past, Labour governments were able to shape the pattern of regional arrangements ... the Howard government has moved in a different direction."
So the Aussie Left understands that it can't go it alone. Interesting revelation.
Latham said that while he maintained his pledge to withdraw troops from the Middle East, he would not recall all 850 Australian military personnel based in and around Iraq. Latham said Labour would support Iraq by sending customs, health and protective staff to help with post-war reconstruction. He also said a Labour government would offer 20 to 30 non-combat personnel to support the protection of the United Nations mission in Iraq. Latham said Labour supported the continued deployment of Australian navy ships to protect Iraq's oil platforms in the Persian Gulf, and the deployment of Australia's Orion aircraft. He said those deployments predated the war on Iraq and were an important contribution in the war on terrorism. But Howard accused Latham Tuesday of backpedalling on Iraq. "Mr. Latham has to admit that his original commitment to bring the troops home by Christmas was a terrible mistake," he told Sydney radio station 2GB.
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Just hope the grown ups can still lead. But it's a drag that the grown ups of this world, Anglosphere, have to show the way. As little children and pot smokin Euros whine with their cheese.
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Phpbt. Latham makes Kerry look serious when it comes to the WoT. Labour, call back when you sack Latham. I don't care how you shuffle the palace guards.
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I think Latham's actually some sort of Auzzie running joke. Wonder when they'll pull the plug.
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Article: "Australia must engage more effectively with Asia," Latham said in a speech to the Institute of International Affairs in Sydney. "In the past, Labour governments were able to shape the pattern of regional arrangements ... the Howard government has moved in a different direction."
"Engaging more effectively with Asia" means that Australia should cave in to demands from Indonesia, Malaysia and China that it should dissociate itself from its alliance with the United States. Latham makes Kerry look like a straight-talker.
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The basic point is that there is no "engaging more effectively with Asia" - most of the Asian countries have interests and agendas of their own that run counter to Australian interests. In the long run, giving in to Asian demands over the alliance is a dangerous thing to do - the US is the only power squarely in Australia's corner, even if Australia's leftists pretend that its disputes with Asian powers are merely the result of misunderstandings.
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I would like to see Australia take the lead in helping the Phillipines with their little Islamic insurgency problem. I'd also like to see them help Thailand with their growing issues.
I'd love to see them help Indonesia but realistically I don't see the Indonesians welcoming help. They'd rather fall apart on their own.
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"... offer 20 to 30 non-combat personnel to support the protection of the United Nations mission in Iraq."
Ummm. Pardon me while I giggle for a while. Non-combat personnel? Great idea. I'm sure they'll be a lot of protection.
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I doubt Beazley could lead Ausralia's armed forces into the front bar on a Friday night. He was held in very low esteem- once he got stuck in the hatch of a tank and had to be lifted out with a crane.
And the late and unlamented Keating Labor government did the "engagement with Asia" bit. This consisted of Keating sucking up to the mega thief Soeharto in the most sickening style. Lots of father-son shit. God it was embarrassing.
And as for the headline- dont you ever confuse Australia with the Australian Labor Party. The two have nothing in common.
Bulgaria on Wednesday stood firm on its Iraq policy and said it was not withdrawing its troops despite the execution of one Bulgarian hostage by militants in Iraq and the threat hanging over a second.
"There is no change in Bulgariaâs policy on Iraq at this moment. We are not considering withdrawing our troops," government spokesman Dimitar Tsonev told Reuters. Bulgaria has 470 troops in Iraq as part of the U.S.-led coalition. The country, a new member of NATO, fought a five-day diplomatic battle to save the two truck drivers, held by a militant group threatening to kill them unless U.S.-held Iraqi prisoners were released. Al Jazeera television said on Tuesday it would not air a video showing the group led by suspected al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killing one Bulgarian because it was too gruesome. "Bulgaria must continue to support Iraq and its reconstruction, stabilisation and democratic development," said a joint statement by Bulgarian President Georgi Parvanov, Prime Minister Simeon Saxe-Coburg and parliament. "The battle to defend universal values against fanaticism requires consistency, courage and stamina," it added. Last Thursday, the militants threatened to kill the hostages in 24 hours unless the United States released imprisoned Iraqis. The militants again threatened on Tuesday to execute the second Bulgarian hostage within 24 hours (2000 GMT) unless the United States complied with their demands. "In this difficult moment we express our deep anxiety and indignation," the joint Bulgarian statement said. "We are doing everything possible to save the life of our other compatriot and we appeal to the captors for his release."
Bulgarian officials would not disclose which of the two men Georgi Lazov, 30, or Ivailo Kepov, 32, had been killed, saying they were waiting to see the full video from Al Jazeera, but Bulgarian media said the executed man was Lazov. "I cannot say officially. Media have identified who it is from the videotape," Tsonev said. Bulgarian television showed Lazovâs mother, Maria, crying uncontrollably. "I donât think this was my Goshko, heâs bigger than the man shown on television," she said from her home in Kocherinovo village, southern Bulgaria. "What can I say... he was a very good boy, he never got into brawls." The two men were drivers transporting cars from Bulgaria to the city of Mosul when they disappeared on June 27. Bulgaria said they were simple workers, not political people. Defence Ministry officials said a shootout in the Iraqi city of Mosul late on Tuesday may have provoked the militants into executing the hostage. "There was a shootout in Mosul, in which two militants were killed in the afternoon. After that the situation changed radically," on official said.
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Al Jazeera television said on Tuesday it would not air a video showing the group led by suspected al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killing one Bulgarian because it was too gruesome.
They said the same thing about the Italian who resisted at the last moment. Methinks the Bulgarian actually put up a fight.
From Jihad Unspun, crediting Reuters
A Swede released from Guantanamo Bay last week said he had been tortured by exposure to freezing cold, noise and bright lights and chained during his 2-1/2-year imprisonment. Mehdi Ghezali, the son of an Algerian-born immigrant, told Swedish media in interviews published or aired Wednesday that he was interrogated almost every day at the U.S. naval base on Cuban soil. The 25-year-old man, who was arrested in Pakistan where he says he was studying Islam, was released on July 8 after pressure from Sweden. Ghezali told Dagens Nyheter daily and Swedish public radio he had cooperated for the first six months but stopped talking when his interrogators kept asking the same questions.
In April the military changed their tactics, he said. "They put me in the interrogation room and used it as a refrigerator. They set the temperature to minus degrees so it was terribly cold and one had to freeze there for many hours -- 12 to 14 hours one had to sit there, chained," he said, adding that he had partially lost the feeling in one foot since then. Ghezali said he was also deprived of sleep, chained for long periods in painful positions, and exposed to bright flashes of light in a darkened room and loud music and noise. "They forced me down with chained feet. Then they took away the chains from the hands, pulled the arms under the legs and chained them hard again. I could not move," he said. After several hours his feet were swollen and his whole body was aching. "The worst was in the back and the legs," he said.
Ghezali said he went Pakistan to study Islam in August 2001, before the September 11 attacks which triggered President Bush's war on terrorism and the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan. He said he was visiting a friend in the Afghan town of Jalalabad near the Pakistani border when the U.S. invasion started. He decided to return to Pakistan when he heard that villagers were selling foreigners to U.S. forces. Pakistani villagers seized him as crossed the border from Afghanistan and sold him to Pakistani police, who turned him over to the U.S. military. He was flown from Pakistan to Afghanistan and arrived in Guantanamo in January 2002, he said. He was released from Guantanamo on July 8 because he was no longer considered a threat to the United States.
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Shipments of antidotes that would counter chemical attacks have been expedited to Boston and New York to make sure both cities have the drugs before the start of national political conventions, federal and local health authorities confirmed last night. Known as ââchempacks," the medical supplies have been regarded as a cornerstone of the nationâs campaign to prepare for terrorism attacks involving chemical or biological agents. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began disbursing the antidotes to states in recent months, but with the Democratic National Convention scheduled for July 26 through 29, Boston was moved up the roster of recipients. ââItâs something thatâs here now, and itâs because of the DNC that it was expedited along, and weâre glad itâs here," said Rich Serino, chief of Bostonâs Emergency Medical Services.
CDC spokeswoman Karen Hunter acknowledged that Boston and New York ââmoved up a few notches" to assure the stockpiles would be in place before the Democratic and Republican meetings. The GOP meets in New York from Aug. 30 to Sept. 2. Brian Roehrkasse, a spokesman for the US Department of Homeland Security, said the shipments are part of ââroutine activities" being carried out by the federal Department of Health and Human Services to ââraise the level of preparedness throughout the country. We have no credible, specific intelligence about a chemical attack in Boston, New York, or any other large city. We continue to take prudent preparedness measures to ensure security at large events through the US during this period of increased risk."
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Why?
We'll be sure that the RBers unfortunate to live in Mass get an advance heads-up - so they can skedaddle.
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Saw Ridge on Fox today he had called a press conference to announce how tight the security would be in Boston . It struck me like he was trying to scare someone off.
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Mark. I was there the night Mayor DeLuxe gave his famous, "My shiddy is in flames!" speech at the Stones concert in '72 after they got busted in Rhode Island. He got the RI cops to kick them loose so the Garden wouldn't also go up in flames and they showed up about midnight. One of the most bizarre nights of my life.
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Tu, I had forgotten about that being the central issue of Kevin's 'speech of speeches' in the grand style of an old time Irish mayor.
aHHH The good old days lol
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For entertainment purposes only (don't try this at home, kids!) - I suggest a hosted bar on the night of Kennedy's speech. Have Chris Dodd bring a catered waitress sandwich
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...and Jean-Bertrand Aristide as "Issac: Your Bartender".
P.S.: Thanks a lot,.com. Will that be caused by the nerve gas or drowning in Teddy's car?
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tu3031, you and Raj got lots of Johnnie Walker Blue plastic sheeting and duct tape for the RB bunker, yes? It was nice knowing you We're all rooting for you!
Donât Muslims ever get sick of playing the victim? God, I am so sick of their whining, lies, denial, etc, etc...
Angela Smontes-Vivas says one of three teenagers who approached at a traffic light in Freeport, Illinois, the night of June 26 simply asked her for a light. But another began kicking her car, and when she got out to confront them, the youths attacked her, pummeling her face with their fists and tearing off her hijab as they attached a string of expletives to the word "Muslim" and recited every bigotâs mantra - "Go back to your country!" The young age of her assailants - the oldest, a girl of just 18, has been charged with battery - should surprise no one.
On the other hand, the bitch was charged with battery, which implies that the cops took the incident seriously. And they didn't cut anybody's head off.
The anti-Muslim prejudice that has saturated the mainstream American cultural and political discourse since Sept. 11, 2001, is enough to make any red-blooded, cable TV-addicted American teen want to pick a fight with his or her neighborhood Muslim.
I must have missed that. Mostly I see a stream of treacle when our domestic Muslims are mentioned, except for when they're caught heading off or returning from jihad.
The ordeal of 32-year-old Smontes-Vivas - a recent convert to Islam - represents only one side of Americaâs encounter with Muslims, who have become Islamâs reluctant ambassadors in the United States. Two weeks before the attack in Freeport, nearly a hundred Jews, Christians and Muslims braved the summer rain to march in solidarity through Park Slope, Brooklyn, from Kolot Chayeinu Synagogue to Baitul Jannah Mosque. The interfaith Children of Abraham Peace Walk represented Americaâs open hand rather than its closed fist.
It's a good example of the stream of treacle I was talking about...
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Still on the schedule out on 7-21, A4617? Stay safe and let us know when you are safely out of the Magic Kingdom.
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"American Muslims"...??? No such creature. There are Muslims in America, but none that put the interest of the USA between them and their faith in the jihad. F**k American Muslims, one and all.
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"Muslims have been ceaselessly demonized by President George W. Bushâs conservative, Evangelical base while enduring the blunt end of the loss of civil liberties imposed by the Bush administration in the form of detentions, mass deportations, harassment and profiling."
Oh pulleezzzze! What a crock.
And they're gonna vote for Kerry, huh? Figures. I wonder who the people of Iraq would vote for.
I don't support people being mean to Moslems just because they're Moslem--but THEY could end this by showing some care and concern for the victims of Moslem terrorism.
Wretchard has blogged it, but Iâm surprised this hasnât turned up here. Below is a small snippet; RTWT.
by Reuel Marc Gerecht I donât suppose heâs angling for something at Langley...
It is also absolutely true that George Tenetâs CIA failed to penetrate Saddam Husseinâs inner circle. Itâs a very good bet that the CIA has not had a single penetration in the inner circle of any of its totalitarian adversaries. The same is probably true for the French, British, and Israeli foreign intelligence services. In other words, one simply cannot judge the caliber of a Western espionage service by its ability to penetrate the power circles of totalitarian regimes. The difficulties are just overwhelming. Weâve discussed this before.
One can, however, grade intelligence services on whether they have established operational methods that would maximize the chances of success against less demanding targets--for example, against Osama bin Ladenâs al Qaeda, which is by definition an ecumenical organization constantly searching for holy-warrior recruits. It is by this standard that George Tenet failed and the CIA will continue to fail, assuming it maintains its current practices. But the odds are poor that the White House, Congress, and the press will condemn the Agency for its failure to develop a workable strategy and tactics against the Islamic terrorist target. The White House, weâll see. The press, obviously. For them CIA is alternately a source of anti-Bush leaks and some locus of black magic.
With the politicization of the Agency over Iraq, a helpful nuts and bolts discussion of operations just isnât likely to happen. Yet a concrete discussion is precisely what is needed. Successful espionage operations against al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist organizations would be defined by the efforts of a small group of men who seed themselves into these organizations. Some, probably most, of these men would need to be actual case officers--CIA employees--not foreign agents the CIA has recruited. The CIA will be a serious espionage organization ready for the twenty-first century only when its professional ranks are dominated in numbers and influence by such officers, who operate far away from U.S. embassies and consulates. This is not likely to happen, of course. We can all be thankful that bin Ladenism will in the end be defeated not by the prowess of American intelligence, but by the democratization of the Middle East. Otherwise, we would be effectively defenseless against a small, tightly knit platoon of holy warriors who live to kill and die.
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The war on terrorism is again at Minnesota's front door after federal authorities arrested a man who they suspect has terrorism ties. Federal sources [said] the man was arrested last Wednesday at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. Sources in the Twin Cities and in Washington D.C. said the man arrived on a flight and was taken into federal custody. Along the way, customs agents found disturbing items in his possession. How disturbing were they?
Sources confirm [Ali Mohamed] Almosaleh was carrying a suicide [note] when he was arrested. They say that note indicated a specific time and date for carrying out some sort of public suicide. He was also carrying CDs and DVDs, which federal sources say contained anti-American material. Ah, he had a Jadakiss CD on him!
A source also confirms Almosaleh had something with him indicating a connection with at least one known terrorist. Almosaleh arrived on a KLM flight last week. A source confirmed he began his travels in Syria and stopped in Amsterdam before continuing to the Twin Cities. Makes sense. Receive last minute instructions in Syria, and one last night out on the town in Amsterdam. Word is the coffee houses are wonderful!
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A good Muslim would have to purify himself after visiting Amsterdam!
- a smart terror group (not that al-Quaeda are the sharpest tools in the shed, I'm just saying) might send a couple of distractions like this, while slipping the real culprits in somewhere else.
- however, this does help keep the US voting public's eyes on the ball.
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The Palestine Liberation Organization and its governmental entity must each pay more than $116 million to the estate of a Jewish couple slain near the West Bank eight years ago, a federal judge ruled. The ruling follows a four-year battle to link the organizations to the crime. The decision by U.S. District Judge Ronald Lagueux, issued late Monday, upholds Magistrate Judge David Martinâs default judgment in April against the PLO and Palestinian Authority. The rulings hold the organizations responsible for the drive-by shooting of Yaron Ungar, an American citizen, and his Israeli wife, Efrat, in June 1996. The case was filed in March 2000 in U.S. District Court in Providence, where the lawyer handling the Ungarsâ estate is based. Itâs one of a handful of lawsuits filed under the Anti-Terrorism Act of 1991 seeking to hold organizations responsible for the killings of American citizens. David Strachman, the Providence attorney appointed by an Israeli court to handle the Ungarsâ estate, called the ruling a "substantive decision.It shows average citizens that are attacked have an avenue to use to go and punish terrorists," Strachman said Tuesday. Strachman said the next step will be to try to collect from the organizations, though he wouldnât say how. He said the PLO and Palestinian Authority have "easily identifiable" assets located worldwide. AKA: "the hard part".
"The point of the lawsuit is to inflict economic (punishment), and to take away funds they seek for terrorism," Strachman said. The defendants may appeal the ruling to the 1st U.S. Court of Appeals in Boston. Their attorneys, former Attorney General Ramsey Clark and Lawrence Schilling, did not immediately return a call seeking comment. Good to see the PLO hires nothing but the best.
Hassan Abu Libdeh, secretary of the Palestinian Cabinet, told The Associated Press he believed the ruling was a political trick, raising the possibility the judiciary will be used as a political tool to fight the Palestinian Authority and PLO. "If this ruling were applied to the U.S. administration itself, I think all the U.S. resources would not be enough to compensate the families of victims of U.S. policies all over the world," he said. Yeah, we know. Evil bad America. Get in line. Take a number. Continued on Page 49
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Islamic Heroes⢠Failures! You let an unarmed child escape?
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According to the Arabian chronicler when Muslims Arabs invaded Spain thirty thousand Spanish "women of great beauty were sold as slaves". What awaited them was rape. So if the Arabs want compensation from the US then they should compensate Spain with thirty thousand oil wells: one for each of the arped girls. Oh, and a number to be determined of Arabs should become eunuchs. Once this is settled we will discuss compansation for Indians, Sudanese, Philipinos, Armenians...
The terrorist threat against the United States in the run-up to the November election is as serious as at any time since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, acting CIA Director John McLaughlin said on Tuesday. "This is about as serious a threat environment as I have seen since 9/11," said McLaughlin, the deputy director who took over on Sunday pending appointment of a permanent successor to Director George Tenet who resigned amid criticism of the agencyâs performance. "The quality of the information we have now is such that we have high confidence that the nation needs to be on guard," McLaughlin told Reuters in a telephone interview.
He said the threats were not pinned specifically to the Democratic and Republican political conventions this summer but to the whole period before the November presidential election. "Itâs related to this period during which the country is exercising its democracy, itâs this period particularly in the run-up to the election, but itâs always a mistake in the counterterrorism business to focus uniquely on a date," McLaughlin said. The attackers would strike when they are ready and not because of a specific date, he said.
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, a Kansas Republican, earlier on Tuesday told reporters that "the chatter and the texture of the chatter is the highest itâs been since 9/11." Chatter refers to communications among terrorism suspects. "Thereâs a lot of members taking second thoughts about attending conventions," Roberts said, but added that he planned to attend. Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge renewed public warnings last week of possible attacks by al Qaeda in the United States this year, but offered no details and said there were no plans to raise the terror threat level. "Credible reporting now indicates that al Qaeda is moving forward with its plans to carry out a large-scale attack in the United States in an effort to disrupt our democratic process," Ridge said.
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Hey everybody, we've all known that the cadres of brigades have been allowed to live amongst us. They will hit when they are ready. After they do I hope America will take a deeper look into PC politics reagarding our islamic neighbors.
The only problem I have is whether they have the knockout blow they hope for. I don't think so. I think the attack will be relitively lame. But even if it is lame I hope our country will take it as the last straw.
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Somebody's lobbying for the DCI job and needs some PR, me thinks.
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Did not Bush say the world is safer now after the fall of Saddam?
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Yes, Chris, it IS safer. Any time a homicidal maniac is out of commission it's better. Or maybe you think he should still be in power, killing 30,000 people a year. Perhaps you'd like it better if Libya was still building nukes and Khan was still selling nuclear technology?
No one has ever said that terrorists aren't still out there gunning for us. We know they are and Bush has been saying so for a long, long time.
The leftists are already planning their response to the next attack, aren't they? "Bush lied. We aren't safe. Let's surrender."
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I believe that Al Qaeda will not attack at all this summer and fall. I think Al Qaeda is so badly damaged they will be unable to carry out anything more than small arms attacks. It is good to see the CIA on the job, but I really think that Al Qaeda was knocked back on their heels and they may well never recover enough the launch another spectacular attack.
One burnt out tail lamp, one wrong right turn after stop, one missed rent payment, one beaten hooker and an Al Qaeda operation can come unraveled.
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I agree with Badanov. I think the Olympics is in far more jeapordy than the US elections since Europe has more open borders, more Islamic immigrants, more PC policies, and has shown more of a willingness to cave to terrorism.
I expect a truck or car bomb targetted at or near a hotel around the media. Someplace with lower security and higher visibilty (thanks to the media). I also expect roundups of the usual suspects beforehand to screw up planning and probably lead to the attack being stopped or aborted.
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Unfortunately, he and Ridge, Ashcroft, Bush, Cheney et. al. have to keep pushing this thing up the flagpole everytime they get even a nibble. No one, because the politics and incessant media harping, can hold back and decide to be silent while waiting to spring a trap before the election and come across as the smartest move since James Bond foiled SMERSH. We have created a monstrous wheel of fate that has all kind of possible political negatives if we prevent anything from happening.
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I agree, if an attack happens and it gets out that they had some incling we'd hear Bush knew endlessly. They have to cover their butts and try to do their best.
From the Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society
Irfan Khawaja, an adjunct instructor in philosophy at The College of New Jersey in Ewing and a lecturer in politics at Princeton University, grew up in the Muslim community in North Jersey. The Nov. 25 edition of the Herald News of West Paterson carried an article by Khawaja, "The Protocols of Paterson," in which he accused the Paterson Muslim communityâand the larger American-Muslim communityâof anti-Semitism. ... His article was in response to reports that the Arab Voice, a Paterson Arab-language newspaper, was reprinting The Protocols of the Elders of Zion .... He exchanged e-mail in an interview with this reporter. The questions and answers follow.
Why is the Arab/Muslim community anti-Semitic? ....
I think there are four basic sources of Muslim anti-Semitism. The first is the text of the Quran. .... The second is a skewed understanding of the Arab-Israeli dispute. .... The third is personal. ... A fourth is that the bigotry has run in both directions; some anti-Semitism is (an inexcusable) reaction to anti-Arab racism. ....
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Maybe the headline should be amended to "A Few NJ Moslems," since the body of the story says most reports didn't pan out.
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Nearly three years have passed since I was in NY that fateful day, but I remember TV reports coming out pretty darn soon after the towers fell that there were Muslim revelers in the streets of NJ. I can't remember which city-Matawan or Rahway, maybe? But I remember it distinctly, because while WTC victims' remains were still smoldering in the rubble, my idiotic Spaniard co-worker was trying to lecture me on how I had to understand the reasons for why they did it....even back then.
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The headline was changed by a Rantburg editor. I posted the article with a headline something like: "An Investigation of Reports that NJ Moslems Celebrated 9/11 Attacks".
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those evil rantburg editors! Ahem, *cough*
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Doling for Dollar$ The numbers are numbing...
BY CLAUDIA ROSETT - Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:01 a.m. EDT
Kofigate continues. Another stack of secret United Nations Oil for Food documents has now reached the press, this batch procured by congressional sources and providing--at long last--a better view of Saddam Husseinâs entire U.N.-approved shopping list. This huge roster of Oil for Food relief contracts fills in a few more of the vital details about Saddamâs "humanitarian" partnership with the U.N., spelling out the names of all his U.N.-approved relief suppliers and the price of every deal.
We need no longer wonder which Russian company got the contracts, on the eve of war, in February 2003, to sell broadcasting gear to Saddam, or for how much. The U.N. list says Nord Star, from which Saddam--approved directly by Secretary-General Kofi Annanâs office, in the name of relief, in the thick of the U.N. debate over Iraq--ordered up $3.4 million worth of TV studio equipment. Or, if one wants to admire the versatility of Saddamâs Russian suppliers, itâs now clear it wasnât just one Russian oil firm, Zarubezhneft, that made a sideline out of selling milk to Saddam. In late 2002, Russiaâs Kalmyk Oil & Gas Co. did a deal to supply Iraq with $1 million worth of "instant full cream milk powder."
And, if anyone has been wondering exactly which nameless Saudi supplier backed out of a $5 million contract to sell vegetable ghee to Iraq when the U.N., post-Saddam, began renegotiating a kickback surcharge of some 10% out of the remaining Oil for Food contracts, the name on the U.N. list is the Al Riyadh International Flower Co. (Which, by the way, turned up last year on a Pentagon list of Oil for Food suppliers overpaid by Saddam, with overpricing in Al Riyadhâs case estimated at about 20%, and total overpayment on three contracts estimated at $8.6 million.) ...more...
Rosett is on the case. Whatever we learn, sheâs the primary source, the one doing the digging. Thanks, Claudia!
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William Satfire is also hot on the trail. But Claudia is like a pit bull on a bone. Definitely detail oriented.
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Meanwhile, the Washington Post and NY Times have been very, very quiet on this.
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...and the Boston Globe, and the L.A. Times, and CNN, and MSNBC, and even the freakin' White House! The others I expect, but why the lack of balls from DC?
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In late 2002, Russiaâs Kalmyk Oil & Gas Co. did a deal to supply Iraq with $1 million worth of "instant full cream milk powder."
Not to worry, in the finest Russian style, Kalmyk Oil & Gas' "full cream milk powder" was made entirely from petroleum distillates and their byproducts.
As to why the White House isn't making more political hay over the Oil-for-Palaces scandal, one can only suppose that being brain dead is not a partisan affliction.
Armed men attacked a farming village in Buldon, Maguindanao, leaving two farmers dead. Killed in the attack by suspected Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) guerrillas on Monday were Arjan Sarte and a certain Toto, a report from the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao in nearby Parang, Maguindanao, said. Reports said that the victims were in the farm when one of the suspects, Sedek Makaurong, sprayed them with M-16 rifle ammunition. The two were hit and killed instantly in the volley of gunfire. The attackers immediately fled. Authorities are eyeing land conflict and personal grudge as the motives behind the killing. Meanwhile, at least three suspected members of the MILF were killed in a clash with government soldiers in the sea off Zamboanga City, a report from the military said Tuesday. MILF spokesman Eid Kabalu, however, denied those engaged in the firefight were members of the Front. Sources from the Armyâs Southern Command said operatives of the Navy opened fire on a motorized boat on Monday after 10 MILF guerrillas refused to stop. Authorities suspected those killed may have links with illegal fishermen.
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Saudi media are hailing the surrender Tuesday of al-Qaida suspect Khaled al-Harby, a disabled militant thought to be closely associated with Osama bin Laden, as a significant victory in the fight against terrorism. The news of Khaled al-Harby's surrender is on the front pages of most Saudi dailies, some of which predict this will lead other militants to do the same.
Saudi journalist Mahmoud Ahmed said the media's highlighting of Mr. al-Harby's surrender reflected the mood of many Saudis that the amnesty offered by King Fahd on June 23 was working. "It appeared in every newspaper, every single newspaper that I am looking at," he said. "It appeared that al-Harby is answering to the royal pardon; 'Top Al-Qaida Guy Surrenders 10 Days Before The Period Is Over.' I mean, I see it everywhere and I spoke to two people earlier this morning and they said that that is a very positive moment for a guy who is considered a scholar for al-Qaida. So the other terrorists should surrender now."
Mr. Ahmed, a Jeddah-based reporter for the Saudi paper, Arab News, said before Mr. al-Harby's surrender, little was publicly known in Saudi Arabia about the man whom they saw on television being pushed in a wheelchair at the Riyadh airport. Mr. al-Harby, who is also known as Abu Suleiman al-Makky, had been seen on a videotape with al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden shortly after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks in the United States.
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Look on the bright side *shovels manure piles aside* maybe all the terrorists will congregate in Saudi Arabia, which will become a target-rich environment.
Maybe I would also like to buy a bridge in Brooklyn.
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I suspect this is a big deal in KSA since this guy called for the overthrow of the Saud dynasty a while back.
"Mr. al-Harby, who is also known as Abu Suleiman al-Makky . . . ."
WTF is it with these people and their "Ahmed, also known as Skippy" names? I am very suspicious of a culture that encourages common use of aliases and false names.
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Would the Saudi's give Bin Laden amnesty if he showed up one day?
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The House of Sa'ud is playing U.S. for suckers.
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Mark - I would suggest that they have, indeed, played the US for suckers - ever since Feb. 18, 1943, when U.S. president Franklin Roosevelt signed executive order 8926 where we read the following remarkable sentence: "I hereby find the defence of Saudi Arabia is vital to the defence of the United States."
The Special Relationship has held every President of the US in its spell. Remarkably, this was even true during the 1973 Oil Embargo which was direct and unambiguous punishment for saving Israel. So every President has been little more than a pawn and apologist - until now. The First and ONLY President to EVER question, challenge, and begin investigating the Saudis for their duplicity and complicity is George W Bush.
He acted directly against the most apparent and active threats, Afghanistan and Iraq. He did what had to be done to set the stage for the long-term fight. He had support then, because of the price paid on 9/11. But reality is hard for loonies, political zoomies, and the uber-liberal MSM to bear - and they have effectively eroded the support solely to advance partisan and multi-culti agendas - security be damned. Bush will, if re-elected, address the next direct threat, Iran. Bet your ass on it. If not re-elected, sell any stock holdings you have in Israeli companies.
Regards the Saudis, their day is coming, and Bush has formulated a plan, called the Bush Doctrine, which will not only undermine the House of Saud, it will undermine ALL of the ME dictatorships, mullahcracies, and thugocracies.
IF he gets the chance.
If he doesn't, look for a muddle as the Kerry people try to figure out which end is up, where the hell Israel disappeared to, and waste precious time fellating Kofi and every foreign leader who'll unzip. Then look for a few of them to recognize what Bush was doing is, indeed, a long-term solution - maybe the only one since our resources aren't unlimited. Meanwhile, cover your ass, for we will be wide open from November on.
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Tibor---the names so long that they have vanishing points and the multiple names the Arabs give them reflect the tribal nature of their societies. It is not who you are, but what clan did you come from, who's your cousin, how you are related to so-and-so. That is how they live their lives. It is their heritage. They have been doing this for many centuries, at the expense of other things.
In the West, we have a highly focused, linear point of view. Some places still have extended families, who is related to whom, etc. But the western outlook points to someone like this:
J. Robert Oppenheimer---yes, he headed the design team that developed the first atomic bombs. That's it.
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Don't worry. I'm remember the Jooooo Oppenheimer.
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.com, I totally agree once Bush is re-elected the Iranian problem will indeed be resolved one way or the other, since the modern jihadic terrorist movement has it's evil roots in post-Shah Iran, dating back to the very day Khomeini exited off that Air France jet on a very cold January day in 1979 to an awaiting frenzied mob of an estimated 2 million diehard followers.
Khomeini's first victim for his 'vision' of the greater Islamic, Shi'ite, Persian Empire was the Lebanon, and today the mullahs puppets, death driven Hizballah control that former banking capitol of the Near-East.
The strategic stepping stones to encircle Iran, were Afghanistan and Iraq. We, not Islamic fanatics are in control of all the old Russian constructed airbases on Afghani soil. The airbase in Herat being very close to Iran's arid eastern sparsely populated Khorasani region. (See link)
On the Iran's oil-rich western front American/British led forces are awaiting orders in Iraq, looking in the direction of Iran's 'Zagros mountainous front'.
My only question is, will American filth columnists (radical leftists) be allowed to create a collaborating diversion for Iranian leaning or al-Qa'ida's planted killers allowing them to stage horrific multi-acts of mass murder prior to the November presidential election ...and ...if Homeland Security measures are breached, allowing a jihadee attacks does take place, will the American voting public react as they did on December 7th 1941 or like Spain's sheep?
In terms of Israel, the very real potential for a lucrative oil industry exists, mostly offshore, but the state of siege resulting from Islamic rooted terror prevents the state from mandated funds for a full scale exploratory effort. When the Iran was governed by the Shah, Israel was supplied with 70% of her imported crude by Iranian exports. We know what happened to that energy deal.
Two last points on Iran, as well as Saudi Arabia; it never cases to amazing me, most people never make the obvious linkage between massive amount of 'jihadic funded derived through Iranian & Sa'udi OPEC oil exports, plus the fact the Wahhabis and Iranian funded 'Islamic centres (mosques) operate in the U.S., Canada, the U.K. & other western nations under a non-profit-tax-free status, where as nothing non-Islamic better not even think about setting up shop in either nation, never-mind tax-free.
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Mark - Trust me, RBers are on the same wavelength as you. Especially regards the Saudi and Iranian funding of terror, from Wahhabi moskkks to "institutes" to jihadists to Hizbollah, this has long been a topic of debate and general agreement. Your opinions and observations are definitely RB mainstream, bro! You're among definitely among friends!
The Kurdish militant group Ansar al-Islam is reorganising in Iranian Kurdistan, say residents of the area, Iraqi security sources and local Iranian officials. The radical groupâs presence - an open secret in the small towns of this mountainous region - appears to have, at the very least, the acquiescence of the Iranian authorities, and some sources report that Iranian intelligence offers logistics and possibly military training. Indeed, IWPR spoke to an Iranian official who says that he was ordered to assist the militants, as well as a local Kurd who was recruited by them for training. Despite the ideological gap between the radical Sunni Islamism of the Ansar and the Shiâite Islamism of the Tehran government, both Iranian and Iraqi observers believe that there is room for an alliance of convenience between the two parties.
While the Kurdish militants need room to rebuild, the Iranians can use them to undercut the influence of secular Kurdish nationalism in the area, and simultaneously have a bargaining chip in dealings with the US. Ansar al-Islam was established in September 2001, first under the name Jund al-Islam, in Iraqi Kurdistan. Most of its founding members were Iraqi Kurdish Islamists who fought in Afghanistan and had strong ties with al-Qaida. According to Ansar prisoners in Iraq, many received al-Qaida training in Afghanistan and then returned to Iraq to conduct attacks against the secular Kurdish political parties, and later against US targets in Iraq. Ansarâs fighters fled the mountains of Iraq last March after an American cruise missile pounded their headquarters. Ground assaults on Ansar-held areas continued throughout the war, and most of the surviving fighters, thought to be close to 800, fled east into Iran. "When we were fleeing to Iran after the US bombing, the Iranian authorities singled out the Ansar fighters and their families, and took them away in military cars," said Golala Salih, a resident of the Iraqi town Tawela which sits on the Iraq-Iran border and was the former stronghold of Ansar al-Islam. "They did not let us [ordinary refugees] cross into Iran." Like most non-Ansar people named in this story, Salih is not her real name, as it has been changed for her protection. Most Ansar operatives are identified but they use code names, which change with their location.
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A suspected Saudi al Qaeda militant who said he returned from Iran under a state amnesty was handed over by Tehran after a request from Riyadh, Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper said Wednesday. In a report citing a source in the Iranian presidency, the newspaper said Khaled al-Harbi, who was held by Iranian Revolutionary Guards, was told two weeks ago that he would be sent back to Saudi Arabia. Saudi and Iranian officials -- and Harbi himself -- said on Tuesday he took advantage of a Saudi amnesty announced on June 23. Saudi Arabia said he had been in the Iran-Afghan border region when he contacted the Saudi embassy in Iran to surrender.
But Asharq Al-Awsat said Harbiâs return to Saudi Arabia followed a recent trip to Tehran by Saudi justice officials, after which Iranâs Judiciary chief Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi passed on a request to President Mohammad Khatami for the handover of al Qaeda suspects to Saudi Arabia. "Khaled al-Harbi was informed of the Iranian decision to hand him over two weeks ago," the newspaper said. "He was taken from one of the (Revolutionary) Guard villas north of Tehran to a safe place near the city of Qom. The Iranian authorities gave him the choice of surrendering voluntarily to the Saudi embassy or being sent back to Riyadh. Harbi chose, according to the Iranian official, to present himself at the embassy."
Khatami Wednesday denied he had received any request from Saudi authorities to hand over Harbi. "I hope one day I receive that letter," he told reporters after a cabinet meeting. "As far as I know, an Arab person who came from abroad agreed with the Saudis to be returned to his country and that is all that I know," he added. Government officials in Tehran privately acknowledge they fear reprisals by al Qaeda and a loss of standing in the Islamic world if Iran is seen to be cooperating too actively in the fight against Osama bin Ladenâs group. An Arab diplomat in Tehran said he believed Harbiâs return was "clearly related to the Saudi judiciary visit last month." "Weâre looking for more gestures like this from Iran which I think would be in their own best interests," he said. Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al Faisal said in January that under a security agreement, Iran had promised to hand over any Saudi in its custody but added Riyadh did not know how many of its nationals were being held by Iranian authorities.
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mullahs, afraid of being next target, hoping to get Saudis to lobby for them as quid pro quo?
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They only dumped him after the amnesty offer was announced and as you can tell from the description of where he was being "held" al-Harbi was living far from what might otherwise be considered an incarcerated existence.
I think somebody nailed it down fairly aptly the other day. Right now, the princes are trying to work out a deal with Louis Attiyat Allah and Co through their holy men to go back to the way things were pre-May 2003 and this appears to be fairly amicable as far as the core leadership of al-Qaeda is concerned. However, the problem is that once these guys go off the reservation it's a real pain in the ass to get them back on it again. As we keep being reminded, this is a decentralized network and there's a lot of power in the hands of the local commanders. Al-Harbi is one of the few Salafi ideologues who has also spent time in the trenches (in contrast to al-Hawali) with the common hard boyz and therefore can't be accused of selling out to the princes. The Saudis are bringing al-Harbi back home as an ace-in-the-hole in case the current reconciliation efforts fail and they need someone other than Louis to rein in the krazed killer korps.
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but wasnt the May 2003 offensive by AQ instigated by Saudi cooperation, such as it was with US efforts, especially cracking down on financing. Seems for a deal AQ has to accept that at least relatively overt financing and other activities in KSA cant happen anymore. In other words, AQ's lost, but KSA will limit the loss for peace with AQ. Alternatively, if KSA goes back to pre 9/11 status quo, with AQ able to act freely as long they dont directly attack KSA interests, KSA has US pressure back on - as in immediate post 9/11 environment.
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The May 2003 offensive was set up by Saif al-Adel with the intention of massacring a good number of princes and seizing power in the Kingdom - or at the very least forcing it into a protracted civil war that he hoped would imperil Western economic interests. The bulk of al-Adel's offensive was thwarted (I'll get the link if you want it) but the Riyadh bombings were still carried out, which led to the death of Yousef al-Ayyeri and Co.
As it now stands, the Saudi crackdown is incomplete. Al-Qaeda can't operate overtly in the KSA anymore, but their holy men and financiers can, including an unindicted co-conspirator in the 1993 WTC bombing (Hawali) and the bankroller behind the proto-9/11 Oplan Bojinka (Khalifa). The reason as to why the crackdown is incomplete is because of our good pal Nayef who controls the security forces and appears to be more or less tacitly allied with bin Laden, if not tactically then certainly ideologically. He's the driving force behind working out another deal amongst the princes with the holy men.
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I think somebody nailed it down fairly aptly the other day.
(jumping up and down) That was me, me, me!
"Maybe he came back to Saudi to take over as Senior Homeland al-Qaeda Director. You know, smooth over those misunderstanding about over throwing the Royal family, set the young lads straight about killing the goose that hands over the golden eggs. As one of Binny's closest aides, they might listen."
The more I read today, the more I believe I'm right. The US doesn't seem too interested in him: US officials said that Harby had had little effectiveness lately and that his former value was as an extremist speaker and "sounding board".
"It's easy to overstate his importance," a US official said. "It's clear that a lot of bad guys have been caught, but there remain a lot of bad guys out there. This isn't going to be the critical blow" to the terrorists' organisation.
Analysts at the CIA and other intelligence agencies do not see Harby as a likely source of valuable information on bin Laden's whereabouts or al-Qaeda's operational activities. "I'd be cautious in terms of characterising him in terms of a significant al-Qaeda figure," another US official said.
That makes him a perfect fit for the al-Q saudi job, he was close to Binny, crippled in Afghanistan, called for overthrow of Saudi princes, foregiven and comes home.
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The May 2003 offensive was set up by Saif al-Adel with the intention of massacring a good number of princes and seizing power in the Kingdom - or at the very least forcing it into a protracted civil war that he hoped would imperil Western economic interests. The bulk of al-Adel's offensive was thwarted (I'll get the link if you want it) but the Riyadh bombings were still carried out, which led to the death of Yousef al-Ayyeri and Co.
So are you saying Saif el Adels move was purely offensive, and had nothing to do with Saudi actions between 9/11/2001 and May 2003?
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Between 9/11 and May 2003, the Saudi al-Qaeda contingent could kill whoever they wanted and operate with impunity, with the government covering it up as the work of alcohol smugglers. The Saudis made some tentative effort at making their connections to terrorism less overt, but it was more or less window-dressing with little if any substance behind it until the Riyadh bombings started.
Understand, in May 2003 al-Qaeda was trying to cover its losses from the war in Iraq. The US killed thousands of its hard boyz in OIF, hard boyz who were in many cases veterans who were not easily replaced. And on top of that the loss of KSM, Tawfiq Attash Khallad, Ammar al-Baluchi, and Yasser al-Jaziri hit the network pretty hard. So the surviving leadership wanted to up the ante by starting trouble in Saudi Arabia, with al-Adel believing that with the Saudis already seething over the war in Iraq that it was a prime environment to push for a coup. It was a pretty good plan and came damn near close to succeeding or at least pushing the Kingdom into civil war, but the plot to target the princes failed and the Iran leadership has been trying to salvage the situation ever sense, as al-Adel is well aware that should the Saudi leadership ever actively move against their financing that al-Qaeda would be seriously hit in the pocketbook. Fortunately, they have Nayef on their side ...
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Hey Dan, can you and your AEI buddies put together a program guide to the players? I'm lost. Better yet, do up some playing cards with terror bios on the back.
The US military has filed terrorist charges against a fourth prisoner at Guantanamo Bay. Pentagon spokesman Larry DiRita said Salim Ahmed Hamdan, from Yemen, will face a military tribunal. "His charges include among other things conspiracy to commit attacks on civilians, and terrorism," he said. Mr Hamdan's lawyer, Lt Cmdr Charlie Swift, has said his client acknowledges being a driver for al-Qaeda in Afghanistan but denies terrorism.
"It's... ummm... something else."
Fifteen detainees at the Guantanamo Bay base in Cuba have been identified as potential defendants for military tribunals. Mr Hamdan is the fourth to be charged, after Australian David Hicks, Ali Hamza Ahmed Sulayman al-Bahlul of Yemen and Ibrahim Ahmed Mahmoud al-Qosi of Sudan. They are expected to be tried by a five-member military tribunal, led by retired Colonel Peter Brownback. No date has been set, but a Pentagon spokesman said they were aiming to hear the first case by the end of the year. It is unclear whose trial will take place first.
Last month, the US Supreme Court ruled that the detainees at Guantanamo are entitled to challenge their detentions in a US court. Nearly 600 detainees from 40 countries are currently being held at the Cuba base. Some have spent more than two years in captivity without being charged. Mr DiRita also dismissed allegations of torture made on Wednesday by a newly-released Swedish prisoner from Guantanamo Bay. Mehdi Ghezali said he was interrogated nearly every day, chained, and exposed to freezing cold, noise and bright lights during his two-and-a-half year imprisonment. The Pentagon spokesman said: "I think we're going to hear from people being released all manner of things." He said the interrogation procedures used at Guantanamo "were within international standards".
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Inmate?
What kinda of Big Red Kangaroo Court is this?
It's the guards who are the terrorists!
From Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty
Two-thirds of Afghans polled in a recent survey say they hold out hope for the future of the country despite pressing worries about the security situation, pollsters announced on 13 July. Commissioned by the U.S.-based Asia Foundation, the survey's findings also suggest that a majority of Afghans support Afghan Transitional Administration Chairman Hamid Karzai, AP reported the same day. Some 13 percent of those Afghans polled voiced support for the ousted Taliban regime, according to the pollsters, who said two-thirds of Afghans approved of the U.S. move to unseat that hard-line Islamic regime in October 2001. Pollsters interviewed 804 rural and urban Afghans from 22 February to 13 March. Interviewers failed to conduct the survey in four of 34 Afghan provinces, including the Taliban stronghold of Uruzgan, where poor security persists. The study's margin of error is 3.5 percentage points. In the survey, 37 percent of respondents listed security as the greatest "national" concern; 29 percent listed the economy as the most serious problem in the country.
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KARACHI: Sindh Police announced in a press release on Wednesday that it had obtained important evidence showing Dr Akmal Waheed and Dr Arshad Waheed belong to the Jundulalh terrorist organization, and has lodged an FIR in the Gulshan-e-Iqbal police station against them. A spokesman said the evidence also showed the two brothers actively supported terrorists and provided various kinds of assistance to them, including training, shelter or arranging for shelter, as well as medical treatment to injured terrorists.
The suspects provided medical treatment to Jundullah terrorist Shahzad Bajwa, who was injured during an attack on a Rangers vehicle on March 19, in which one Ranger was killed. They also treated terrorist Qasim, who was injured during the attack on the convoy of Karachi Corps Commander Lt Gen Ahsan Saleem Hayat on June 10. The brothers did not inform the law-enforcement agencies about the terrorist they treated.
The spokesman said the brothers sent extremists to South Waziristan for training in terrorism. When the brothers sent Shahzad Bajwa and Qasim to Wana, the terrorists were accompanied by the doctors' own PA, Kashif. The terrorists were trained by Eida Khan, who was based in Wana. Police said evidence showed the two doctors provided medical treatment and shelter to Al Qaeda terrorists Hasan Gul, Abu Musab and Hassam.
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LAHORE: Three Pakistan Rangers officials were injured when unidentified assailants opened fire at their car late Tuesday night in the Narang police precincts. The officials were on their way to the Lang Wala checkpost when attacked by two masked assailants near Kalakhatai. Lance Naik Muhammad Javed, Hawaldar Zaighum and Constable Manzar Hussain were wounded. The assailants escaped from the scene. The injured were taken to Services Hospital where they are reported stable. Pakistan Rangers Punjab Director General Major General Hussain Mehdi visited the hospital and inquired after the injured. Police said the incident seemed to be an attempted robbery.
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Prime Minister Chaudhary Shujaat Hussain said on Wednesday that amendments would be made to the Hudood Ordinance only if the Council of Islamic Ideology recommends them. Talking to delegations of the Gujrat Chamber of Commerce and Industry and district Muslim League officials, Mr Shujaat made it clear that the amendments would depend on the report of the council. "If they recommend a change, we will introduce the change," he said. Shujaat stressed that no law incompatible with the Quran or Sunna would be promulgated. He denied there would be amendments to the Blasphemy Law. He said that the government did not want women and minorities discriminated against under the Hudood or Blasphemy laws. "We have sought recommendations from the Council of Islamic Ideology so as to make amendments to the method of implementation of the Hudood laws," he said.
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The federal government has directed the chairman of Gwadar Port Implementation Authority (GPIA) to move its office from Karachi and establish its headquarters in Gwadar âas soon as possibleâ. Sources in the Interior Ministry in Islamabad said the direction had been made after reports that the authority office in Karachi could easily become a soft target for terrorism. The sources said the Balochistan Frontier Constabulary inspector general had also been asked to oversee the security of Gwadar. Sources said that according to the decision taken at a high-level meeting on law and order chaired by President Pervez Musharraf on July 1 in Islamabad, the Balochistan FC IG had also been directed to establish a Quick Reaction Force in Gwadar with gunship helicopters to enable a quick response against saboteurs and terrorists as part of a comprehensive security plan for Gwadar. They said that a special foolproof security plan had been devised for the residential and working areas of the Chinese engineers and the plan would be implemented soon.
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Hopes for a peaceful solution to the foreignersâ registration issue in South Waziristan faded when a 40-member advisory committee of tribal elders was dissolved on Wednesday after differences remained within, over the demolition of houses of wanted tribesmen. Sources told Daily Times on the phone from Wana that serious differences developed among tribal elders over the demolition of houses of relatives of Maulvi Abbas and Javed, two local Al Qaeda loyalists wanted by the authorities. A grand jirga convened by the educated youth of the Wazir tribe in Wana expressed lack of confidence in the members of the advisory committee, accusing them of failing to solve the issue peacefully.
I'm having a hard time getting my mind around that phrase "educated youth of the Wazir tribe"...
Nisar Ahmad Nisar from the Tajikhel Wazir tribe and Azizul Hassan from the Khojakhel Wazir said the advisory committee had been demolishing houses but it had failed to persuade the administration to lift sanctions imposed on tribesmen despite a lapse of a month. They said the demolition of houses was no solution to the issue and would leave the people worse off than before. They said members of the advisory committee were illiterate and had failed to understand the complexities of the situation. âIt is time the educated youth tried to settle the issue and talked to the political administration,â they added.
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"educated youth.." must refer to being throughly ate up with islamo-facist ideology from the neck up. It has nothing to do with literacy. These are the kids that think the Talaban and Osma are just swell remember. The way these folks come up with "names" for their gangs reminds me of young kids (10-11 yr olds). Hey it's the spyder gang! How about the diptard youth of the Weyankit tribe.
85 Black Sudanese boy slaves were freed from Arab masters last month through the mediation of the Arab-Dinka Peace Committee at Warawar, Southern Sudan. The freed slaves were documented last week by an international team of researchers sponsored by CSI. The freed slave boys were among the tens of thousands of Black women and children who had been enslaved by Sudanese government-sponsored militias during two decades of civil war. All of the boys reported that they were forced to work without pay, and were frequently beaten and subjected to racial insults. Over 80% of the boys reported that they had been forced to practice Islam against their will, while 18% claimed they had been raped by their masters or by their masters' friends and relatives. One 14-year-old boy, Mawien Garang, explained that his master forced him to serve another man as a male prostitute. 65% of the slaves reported that they had witnessed the execution of other Black Africans during slave raids or while in captivity.
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Another fine example of Islam at work. Where's the outcry from Jesse Jackson, from Al Sharpton?
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Jesse & Al (ultra-leftists) seek only Pac funding & votes for their hack Dem pals. Neither one could care less about the Islamic slaughter against 'jihad targets' in the southern Sudan, since they would not make a thin dime from stating the facts.
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Jesse is more against "white-y" than for blacks, that's why. America is his target rich field.
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I opened a fellow employee's eyes today (he's black and fairly liberal). We usually trade e-mails about news (he knows where I stand) and I gave him a rant about Iraq under Saddam (he made a smart @ss comment about wrong intelligence) before opening up a can on him about how the U.N. is completely ignoring Sudan (which should get to him, being "African-American" and all). Two bit thugs livin' off Sadam's "Oil for food"...thought they vowed "never again" after Rwanda??!!!! He wrote back that he'd never read such a "non-political" rant about sending troops in for human rights abuses. Guess Colin Powell's visit didn't get the point across, eh?
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Oil you say
I am away
To the Sudan
To lend a hand
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For the oil, right?
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Oil is right
I'll be on a flight
I hope tonight
To the Sudan
To lend a hand
Against THE MAN
And any competitive bidders
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Terror organizations are creating a new strategic means of war against the State of Israel in order to kill civilians. The IDF and security forces are working assertively via sea, air and land to prevent the ability of the firing of kassam rockets into Israeli territory. These means of terror are being made and launched from the Gaza Strip by terrorist organizations in support from international terrorism.
Statistics of Kassam rockets launchings since 29 September 2000:
Over 300 Kassam rockets launched into Israeli territory of which of 70 landed in the city of Sderot. This year 19 landed in Sderot claiming two civilan lives.
Further, you will find the main army forces in the previous month that have destroyed the capabilities of making kassam rockets. During June 2004, the security forces attacked many lathes used to manufacture weapons to facilitate attacks against IDF soldiers and Israeli civilians.
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The rocket is made of iron with a width of 2.5-3 millimeters.
President Hamid Karzai threatened Wednesday to crack down on Afghan warlords who continue to thwart efforts to disarm them. Slow progress persuading militias to give up their guns has forced repeated delays of Afghanistanâs first post-Taliban elections for fear of intimidation. "Those who act against...or endanger the security of the country are rebels," according to a decree signed Wednesday by the president. "According to the law, they are condemned to heavy punishment."
Disarming militias which helped the United States drive out the Taliban in late 2001 is a key component of a U.N.-sponsored plan to prevent Afghanistan lapsing back into war. But only 10,000 of the official 100,000 irregular fighters have given up their weapons so far, prompting Karzai to pledge action to speed the process. The United Nations accuses powerful anti-Taliban leaders of stalling, raising concern that they will use fear to consolidate their power before they lose their private armies. Militia commanders including Mohammed Atta and Hazrat Ali pledged their loyalty to the government and the disarmament process at a meeting with Karzai on Wednesday, state television reported. (Mohammed Atta? This guy should change his name)
Usually he goes by Atta Mohammed...
The decree targets militias operating outside the nominal control of the Defense Ministry -- mainly smaller units who should be easier to dismantle. It warned commanders and former fighters against secretly re-forming disbanded formations and hiding heavy weapons. It stopped short of naming any offenders. A vote for president is set for Oct. 9, more than three months later than originally planned. Parliamentary elections have been put off until the spring.
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Some RantBurger needs to assemble a non-de-islam name generator.
An Iraqi militant group has warned Arab states not to send troops to Iraq, saying they would meet the same fate as US soldiers, according to a video broadcast Wednesday by a pan-Arab TV channel. The previously unknown "Islamic Anger Brigades" issued the warning after Jordan, Bahrain and Yemen made conditional offers of troops to the interim Iraqi government last week. An editor at the Dubai-based Al Arabiya channel said the tape was apparently delivered to the satellite stationâs offices in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad. The editor, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the station had no further details on the group.
"We warn all Arab countries of the repercussions of sending troops to Iraq," said one of four men in the video, reading from a statement. Arab "countries sending troops to Iraq would face the same fate as the American forces in Iraq," he added. The men were brandishing automatic rifles and a rocket-propelled grenade launcher and making faces. A banner bearing Islamic inscriptions hung on a wall behind them.
According to another audiotape carrying a voice purporting to be that of Jordanian militant Abu Musab Al Zarqawi, the captors of US hostage Nicholas Berg beheaded him rather than accept money for his release to avenge Muslims who had suffered at the hands of American-led forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. The 60-minute recording, which was first posted on Islamic websites yesterday, claimed that there had been attempts â including the payment of money â to save Bergâs life, but the speaker did not identify who was behind the rescue bids.
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Wow. So many factions, so little time. Monty Python's colloseum skit sure nailed the Arabs to the wall. No matter if what this particular "group" is peddling, there must be an indian shortage cuz there's so damned many chiefs.
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Not only that, but they always seem to form brigades (which in the US Army consists of several thousand soldiers). Q: How many Arabs does it take to form a brigade? A: 2 - 1 to issue a statement and 1 to issue a fatwa. (/rimshot)
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An Iraqi militant group has warned Arab states not to send troops to Iraq, saying they would meet the same fate as US soldiers
As if the violence in Iraq had not already disproven the myth of no Muslim-on-Muslim violence. Fortunately, it seems as though Iraq's interim leaders are well aware of how counterproductive the outside interference has been.
Attackers have killed the governor of the Iraqi city of Mosul as he was driving in a convoy of vehicles towards Baghdad, an Interior Ministry source has said. The assailants threw a grenade at the governorâs vehicle and fired automatic weapons, the source said on Wednesday. "He was on his way to Baghdad with a security escort of four cars, when the attackers in another car pulled up beside his vehicle and threw a grenade, and then shot at his car," said the source, who declined to be named. A spokesman for the governorate has confirmed that the governor of Mosul, Usama Kachmula, and two people who were accompanying him were killed. "The governor was killed in the region of Tâlul al-Baj, 110 km south of Mosul, with two people who were with him," said the spokesman Hazam Jalawi, without explaining how they died.
Several senior officials working for the interim Iraqi government, which took power from the US-led occupying coalition barely two weeks ago, have been assassinated recently. Earlier, unknown armed men also shot dead a senior official from Iraqiâs industry ministry as he left his home in Baghdad to go to work, said an interior ministry spokesman. The attack on Sabir Karim, a director general at the ministry, took place on Tuesday morning, said Colonel Adnan Abd al-Rhaman, adding that the assailants then fled the scene.
In the southern Iraqi city of Najaf a group suspected for having ties to al-Qaida were arrested, reported Aljazeera. Colonel Ghalib al-Jazaery, Najafâs police commissioner, was quoted as saying that the group was involved in last yearâs assassination of Muhammad Baqir al-Hakim, the head of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution. They are also accused of carrying out a string of attacks in Karbala last year.
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The society doesn't know that you can earn or lose power by any other means than killing someone-all the more reason that the West's idea of free elections in the MidEast must prevail.
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The hope is the reaction among the normal Iraqi people will be to demand swift action by the government against Islamic Murder Inc.
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"He was on his way to Baghdad with a security escort of four cars, when the attackers in another car pulled up beside his vehicle and threw a grenade, and then shot at his car," said the source, who declined to be named.
Huh. Some security. Sounds like an inside job to me, as any competent "security escort" wouldn't let an unknown car get that close.
ISRAELI ARAFAT DEATH SCENARIO 456.01 MARK 3
Israel should brace itself for violence and refuse Yasser Arafat's burial in Jerusalem when he dies, according to a reported government contingency plan. The best way of assuring that would involve recovery teams not being able to find anything large enough to bury.
Several media outlets have published details of what is said to be Israel's plan to handle the death of the Palestinian leader, who is in his 70s. The plan proposes a burial for Mr Arafat in Abu Dis, rather than the holy ground of Jerusalem. But Israel has no intention of harming him at the moment, Israeli radio said. It broadcast an interview with the Israeli Deputy Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert, who said Israel had "no personal plans" for Mr Arafat. Other than snuffing his terrorist @ss.
ISRAEL CONTINGENCY PLAN
Best if Arafat dies abroad
No burial in Jerusalem
Israel must avoid being blamed
The document reportedly says the Palestinian Authority is likely to collapse and major violence would flare up in the West Bank and Gaza - beginning in the refugee camps - fanned by Hamas and other Islamic groups. Isn't that happening already?
Israel would oppose any attempt by the militants to take control of Palestinian areas with "extreme measures", including launching a broad military operation in the Gaza Strip, according to reports on the document. Steps would be taken to stop any rumours that Israel was in any way connected with a death by natural causes. That's something Israel should give up on right now. Even if Arafat died in an Egyptian hospital it would still be made out as a "Zionist plot." If Crown Abdullah can attribute al Qaeda to a Zionist plot, anything goes.
Sent away to die
The document is said to anticipate that Palestinians will demand Mr Arafat be buried in the Haram al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary), known to Jews as the Temple Mount, which houses the al-Aqsa mosque in East Jerusalem. Good idea. This maggot's grave will rapidly become a Palestinian shrine. Far too many Israelis will be justifiably tempted to piss upon it and revenge attacks will result. Too bad they can't just bury him in an outhouse so everybody can take their turn.
But this is ruled out as "symbolically problematic". The best eventuality, the document says, is that Mr Arafat be treated abroad if his health deteriorates and for him to die painfully outside the Palestinian territories. That would remove blame from Israel and make it easier to prevent a Jerusalem burial, the document says. A more troubling scenario for Israel foresees thousands of Palestinians trying to force their way into Jerusalem with Mr Arafat's body. Only a sniper low on ammunition would find such a target rich environment "troubling."
The burial should take place in the suburb of Abu Dis, which overlooks the old city of Jerusalem but lies outside the land claimed by Israel as its capital, the document says. There's the real reason.
The document concludes that Israel must begin preparing for Mr Arafat's death by putting "pressure" on militant groups, to minimise their future capabilities, and opening dialogue with Palestinians who would form an "acceptable" government. Responding to the report, an Arafat adviser told Israeli Army Radio that the Palestinian leader is in still control and "very healthy". All that can change. Besides, Arafat's and Palestine's deteriorating health seem to be in equally bad shape. Right down to how neither wants to admit it.
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I'm thinking a septic leach field in a pig farm
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After Arafat dies, they should put his body in a public square, pack about 2 cases of dynamite around it and light him off. Everyone gets a piece of the action. I did that to a rotton horse that died in a creek and it cleaned the mess up like Jack the Bear.
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As far as being blamed for the death....
better to be hung for a wolf, then cut the power
and target all chilled morgues.... I'm think AP did lyrics about this a couple of weeks ago.
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probably should've sent to Pg 2 - my bad
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Bah! You beat me by a few minutes, Frank G. I think this one deserves Page 1 exposure. It shows the enormous issues that Arafat will continue posing to Israel, even in death.
salt to taste EFL
The business that brought him [Qaradawi] to London is revealed here exclusively by DEBKAfile's Middle East sources. The preacher placed before a World Muslim Brotherhood conference a working document drawn up at "a secret meeting of the movement" somewhere in the Middle East, calling on all brethren in the Muslim world to rise up and foil Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon's plan to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and, most of all, to combat any potential Egyptian or Jordanian role in its implementation. The Brotherhood was exhorted to resort "to all means available."
. . . adding: "No power can prevent the Brotherhood from thwarting this scheme, even if it entails direct and open confrontation with the governments of Egypt, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority. The struggle will be uncompromising." This is the first time . . . the Muslim Brotherhood . . . has crossed the line between radical doctrinal rhetoric and operational violence, threatening Israel, the Palestinian areas - and Arab governments too - with a campaign of terror.
This sensitive information was relayed to two White House officials, Stephen Hadley and Elliot Abrams, when they met Sharon and other Israeli officials in Tel Aviv Tuesday, July 13, according to DEBKAfile's political sources. It explains the sudden absence of Egyptian emissaries from contacts with Sharon on the future of his disengagement initiative. Cairo, ever prone to Islamic fundamentalist outbreaks, is loath to take the lid off a fresh wave, especially during the potentially volatile period of regime transition from the ailing president Hosni Mubarak to his son Gemal. Jordan is likewise playing down its support for Sharon's plan. King Abdullah has enough worries from the danger of Iraqi guerrilla war spillover and clandestine al Qaeda activity without giving the Muslim Brotherhood's broad and influential Jordanian membership a pretext for opening yet another front against the throne in Amman.
On the other hand, the Palestinian Hamas, Jihad Islami and factions of the popular resistance committees, are bound by the Brotherhood's decision to fight tooth and nail against Egyptian or Jordanian attempts to establish a security presence in Palestinian areas. This circumstance leaves former Gaza strongman Muhammed Dahlan with little option but to shelve his dreams of ruling the territory and return to his studies in London.
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Debka does get some interesting scoops, but boy howdy do they ever twist them up with their own wishful thinking.
For example, they are good at analyzing the Byzantine plots of the various players in the middle east, but fall flat on their faces when trying to interpret the motives and actions of outsiders. And this skews their predictions, whenever an outsider is involved in the equation.
They are not alone in this problem. The Israeli military was taken completely by surprise at how the Americans conducted their Iraq campaign, and how they followed that campaign up, and with such unpredicted success. The Israelis assumed that the Americans and the Iraqis would behave just like they and the Palestinians did. That their motives, techniques, tactics and strategies were the same. And they were terribly wrong.
(The Isreali military was also horrified to discover that they had only miniscule penetration into US strategy and tactics--the US military, if it wanted to, could very effectively keep secrets from the Israelis. This resulted in their having to make a major commitment to ground intelligence in Iraq, with very little warning.)
So, again, try to separate what Debka is objectively reporting from what they are assuming and projecting for the future.
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Good assessment of Debka, Anonymoose. I also find their work to be a little too skewed by wishful thinking and unwarranted supposition. They manage some excellent scoops but tend to taint them with their own agenda a little much.
This is the first time . . . the Muslim Brotherhood . . . has crossed the line between radical doctrinal rhetoric and operational violence, threatening Israel, the Palestinian areas - and Arab governments too - with a campaign of terror.
Methinks another major crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood will be forthcoming in Egypt. No sense in letting them rock the boat during any power transition. It also appears as though the Brotherhood is about to piss off everyone and their grandmother. All the better I suppose, although one hopes the Palestinian people would realize how this merely foretells increased misery for them (difficult as that is to imagine). I suppose it will be hard for them to tell if conditions deteriorate since they are living in stone-age poverty already.
At least a nice power struggle over the last few remaining chickens in the Palestinian coop will give their people ringside seats to view exactly why their so-called "state" continues to shrink in size and is no closer to manifesting politically after decades of bloody struggle.
Anyone want to bet that a shred of this will get through to them?
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I fail to see how the Moslim brotherhood could stop Israel from pulling out. Attacks won't do anything to stop it since the plan is announced the pullout won't be seen as appeasment. The attacks could however convince settlers to move quicker to get out of Gaza.
Perhaps they are planning a charm offensive. Passing out flowers and singing songs to the settlers hoping to convince them to stay.
"We want all of the Jews off of our land, or we will kill you all."
"'Kay. We're out of here. See you around the oasis."
"No! Come back or we will kill you all!"
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Any arab with strategic thinking (now there's a phrase) realizes that Israel's plan to disengage from the Paleos and isolate them with a wall makes the effectiveness of the Paleos as a dagger in the underbelly of Israel minimal. The Paleos will just become a backwater in their designs on Israel. Since the Paleos are no longer useful idiots, their funding will dry up and they will be the forgotten messes masses, bypassed by new venues and situations.
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Suspected al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi has warned Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi that he will not escape death at the hands of the militant group. "We will harm you, Allawi. You managed to escape the missiles of death that rained on your house recently, but there are more in reserve, God willing," said a statement dated July 8 and posted on an Islamist Web site on Wednesday. "We will not allow you to taste peace, you enemy of God," the statement, signed by Zarqawi, said. Earlier this month, insurgents fired rockets at Allawiâs home in Baghdad and other targets, wounding seven people.
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I'm finding myself hoping that Zarqawi can stay alive for awhile. His statements are good illustrations that Iraqis are fighting against Islamists.
Tactically, there are probably several dozen people who have to be taken off direct terrorism duty and put on 'help protect Zarqawi' duty.
The IP carried out a huge campaign yesterday to clean up Baghdad from criminals. I heard in the news that hundreds of suspects were detained in the operation but I didnât believe the number until Al-Sharqiya TV broadcasted pictures for the arrested suspects and the scene was awesome; the detainees looked stunned as the operation was quiet surprising and unexpected as this kind of preventive strikes by IP is totally new. Many people may think that the number is so big (over 500)and I myself had doubts that maybe there were many innocents among the detainees but knowing that the operation was performed in Bab Al-Sheikh and Al-Kifah neighborhoods explained everything.
These two areas have always been recognized by Iraqis as rich habitats for many gangs responsible for drug dealing, car jacking, murders, looting and burgling and I even believe that there are still many more of them to get busted but hopefully when those watch their colleagues being captured they will think twice before they continue with their crimes.
Something that worth mentioning is that when you walk in these areas you can see pro-Saddam slogans covering most of the walls and in my opinion thereâs a strong relation between ordinary criminals and the âresistanceâ as each group serves the otherâs interests; as a thief would love to see chaos spread everywhere and would make use of attacks that target the security forces because this would provide a favorable environment for his work. On the other hand, the âresistanceâ and their allies would like to see more crimes to prove their theory that things were better off in the past and that the change in Iraq has made things only worse. The routes through which drugs are being smuggled are most likely to be the same ones used to smuggle explosives.
This operation was accomplished with almost no casualties among the security forces and in a remarkably short time. The action was highly organized and performed in coordination with the special intelligence department in the IP, as a senior officer stated in an interview for Al-Hurra TV, he also mentioned that satellite images provided by the multinational forces made the job much easier as it helped to specify the exact locations of the suspects and prevented unnecessary casualties among IP members or civilians. I like that. Should spook the bad guys, knowing that "The Eye In The Sky" is on them
This is the second time in this month where IP (with logistic support from the multinational forces) carry out such a large operation; the first one was in Battaween area which is another stronghold for criminals and more than 150 gangsters were arrested.
If youâve got time read the next entry "One square kilometer"
- a great essay, as well.
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A woman suicide bomber who set off a blast that killed herself and four policemen in the Sri Lankan capital Colombo may have been wearing a "bra bomb", police said Tuesday. The device exploded as the attacker, who appeared to be in her late 20s, was being searched by two women constables at a police station after being detained by guards of a government minister. The two constables who escaped with injuries have said the woman had shown them her bare midriff to indicate she was not wearing an explosives-filled jacket usually worn by suicide bombers, inspector Palitha Siriwardena said. "This points to the possibility that she was wearing a bra that had explosives in it," said Siriwardena, who is chief inspector of the Kollupitiya police station where the blast occurred. It would be the first case of a bra bomb encountered by police in Sri Lanka. Colombo's police chief Sirisena Herath said the remains of the woman indicated the explosives were around her chest and pointed to her having worn a bra bomb, although the forensic report was yet to be finalised.
CSI: Colombo is on the case
"The body was basically in two parts," Herath told AFP. "The explosives had been around the chest and that is why (from) waist down was intact. One arm was blown away, but the head was intact." Police said they were for the time being going on the basis that it was a bra bomb that could have been wired to go off when tampered with.
Touch them titties and die!
It's... It's... It's the Boobies of Death!
"Legume! We have another bra-bomber!"
"Inspector, how can you be so sure?"
"She has a figure like a Barbie doll. Search her!"
Usually suicide bomb jackets have a manual detonating device that would come down almost to waist level. No such detonating device was found on the woman who carried out the bombing on Wednesday, police said. Tiger rebels denied involvement in the suicide bombing which the government said was intended for Hindu Religious Affairs Minister Douglas Devananda, who is a staunch opponent of the Tamil Tigers. The United States and other diplomats here said despite the denials, the attack bore the hallmarks of the Tamil Tigers who earlier this month commemorated 241 suicide bombers who perished since 1987.
"Oh sure, we have suicide bombers, just not this suicide bomber! Musta been somebody else."
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The head of the Buti village authorities in Chechnyaâs Shatoi district, Lechi Isaldebirov, has been kidnapped by unidentified armed individuals. The same people kidnapped two policemen in the Sharoi district and seized their weapons, Chechen Security Council chief Rudnik Dudayev told Interfax on Wednesday. The two policemen are brothers of head of the Sharoi district administration Raso Musalov, to whom they were attached as bodyguards. Measures are being taken to find those who were kidnapped.
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Rebels took 12 members of Chechnyaâs presidential security service captive, an official said Wednesday, contradicting earlier reports that 18 of the officers had died in heavy fighting. The Interfax news agency had quoted security service chief, Chechen First Deputy Premier Ramzan Kadyrov, as saying Tuesday that 18 of its members had been killed in fighting outside the southern village of Avtury. However, Kadyrov told NTV television later that six had been killed. Interfax quoted Chechnyaâs chief prosecutor, Vladimir Kravchenko, as saying Wednesday that 12 of the security service officers had been taken captive. Kravchenko said about 30 security troops apparently were ambushed by 60 or 70 rebels, according to Interfax. In addition to the six security servicemen, five rebels were killed, he said.
The ITAR-Tass news agency, citing an unidentified Chechen police official, gave different numbers, reporting 11 security troops were taken captive and five killed. It said four Chechen police also died in the fighting. The loss of his forces is a harsh blow to Kadyrov, a son of the Chechen President Akhmad Kadyrov, who was assassinated two months ago. The heavy fighting outside the village of Avtury came hours before a roadside explosion hit the motorcade of the Chechnyaâs acting president, Sergei Abramov, killing one person and injuring two others. Abramov was unhurt in the blast in Chechnyaâs capital, Grozny. Russiaâs chief prosecutor, Vladimir Ustinov, said President Vladimir Putin had ordered him to travel to the North Caucasus "in connection with aggravation of the situation" in the region, which includes Chechnya.
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Saddam Hussein had links with terrorists like Carlos the Jackal and Abu Nidal and groups connected to Al Qaeda, Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said on Wednesday. âThe record of Saddam shows very well his connections to international terrorists, like Carlos and Abu Nidal,â Allawi told BBC radio. âWe know for sure that he had established links with chieftains in Sudan, to work closely with Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda style organisations,â he said. Allawi also defended the US-led coalitionâs move to go to war against Saddam, describing it as âa moral decision taken on ethical grounds.â Speaking on the day an inquiry is due to report on the use of Britainâs intelligence to justify the invasion, Allawi thanked British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George W. Bush. âThe Iraqi people, we are deeply appreciative of both the role of Tony Blair and President Bush in helping Iraq to liberate itself,â he said.
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It's one thing to be anti-war or even anti-Bush, but to be pro-Saddam is just stupid. But I guess there are still idiots out there who miss Stalin, too. Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - Robert Heinlein
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"Prime minister, Iâm surprised that you would make the connection between 9/11 and the war in Iraq. The 9/11 commission in America says there is no evidence of a collaborative relationship between Saddam Hussein and those terrorists of al-Qaida."
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Antiwar might yet get her wish. Somewhere deep inside my guts I feel Sammy might yet be released "for the good of the nation" or to "begin the healing process and move on".
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I much prefer hearing from people like antiwar who are honest enough to say they want Saddam back in power to hearing from people like NYTimes editorialist who secretly wish for the death of American troops while pretending they don't.
When the German-led civil-military team in the northern city of Konduz determined that a power line was needed to supply a new hospital on the outskirts of town, they knew the quickest solution: build it themselves. Instead, the commanders of the so-called Provincial Reconstruction Team, Col Reinhard Kuhn and his civilian counterpart Thomas Schultze, called a meeting with locals: Mohammad Omar, the provincial governor, General Mohammad Daoud, who commands 9,000 Afghan soldiers in the PRTâs area of responsibility, the mayor, the police chief and ministry officials. "What we are trying to do is support the central government, not replace it," said Mr Schultze.
Sitting down with local officials to build a power line may fall outside traditional military duties, but it is part of the daily grind for PRTs, the civil-military teams that will be Natoâs main tool in expanding its peacekeeping mission to northern Afghanistan. The alliance last month approved plans to expand the International Security Assistance Force beyond its 6,500-strong force in Kabul and its only PRT, in Konduz. The expansion fell far short of expectations among Afghan and international officials, promising about 1,500 new troops inside the country and 2,000 on stand-by outside.
PRTs, set up by the US-led coalition fighting Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistanâs troubled south, are designed to help extend the reach of central government. "Itâs about working with provincial governors, tying into a central strategy from Kabul," says Frank Muggeo, PRT director at the Isaf headquarters in Kabul. Nato launched a PRT made up of British and Nordic troops in the northern province of Faryab on July 1 and will add two more - one German, one Dutch - in Badakhshan and Baghlan provinces. The alliance has taken command of a British-led PRT in Mazar-i-Sharif and plans a 1,000-soldier "quick reaction force". In Konduz the team is helping to build up the local police force and to convince Gen Daoud to comply with government plans to disarm 3,000 of his militia as part of a national programme. It acts as a conduit for rural communities, says Mr Schultze, driving to far-flung villages to meet local representatives and explain how requests can be pursued with provincial government or aid agencies. He also co-ordinates the PRTsâ work with aid organisations.
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A car bomb has exploded at the main entrance to the heavily guarded area in Baghdad housing government offices and the US and British embassies. At least 10 people were killed and 40 hurt in the blast which happened as workers queued to get into the complex. A BBC correspondent, who was himself waiting to enter, said the explosion came from a car about 50m behind him. Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, who visited the scene, vowed to crush those responsible for the attack. "This is a naked aggression against the Iraqi people. We will bring these criminals to justice," Mr Allawi said. He suggested the blast might have been in response to a police operation in Baghdad this week that led to the arrest of more than 500 suspects.
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I just heard on the radio that the governor of Mosul was killed. Anyone have any other news on this?
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By EDITH M. LEDERER (AP) - Jul 13, 11:06 PM EDT
The U.N. Mideast envoy on Tuesday said the Palestinian Authority has made no progress toward combating terror attacks against Israel and is "in real danger of collapse." Terje Roed-Larsenâs assessment received a rebuke from the Palestinians and praise from the Israelis, despite his criticism of Israelâs lack of progress in dismantling new settlements and freezing settlement activity. U.S. Ambassador John Danforth called it "a good ... balanced presentation" which stressed that progress toward peace must come through the political process and the road map endorsed by the United States, the United Nations, the European Union and Russia. He said the U.N. envoyâs view of the Palestinian Authorityâs weakness raised an "alarm" and "a question of whether itâs possible to have a negotiated peace if one side is so weak that there isnât anything to negotiate with." Roed-Larsen painted a grim picture of lawlessness in the Palestinian Authority, its failure to institute critical reforms, and he blamed Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat. ...more...
Lions, tigers, and hyenas - all circling the dwindling waterhole...
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The U.N. Mideast envoy on Tuesday said the Palestinian Authority has made no progress toward combating terror attacks against Israel and is "in real danger of collapse."
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Speaking of Suha, how is her money laundering case going in France? They made a big stink about it in the beginning, then it dropped off the radar screen.
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mhw is right.
also see this in context with tension between Egypt and Arafat (backed by Pal radicals) over Egyptian offer to train Pal security in Gaza. Recent local elections in Gaza won by Dahlan supporters. Growing discontent with Arafat within Fatah. Moves toward a coalition govt in Israel.
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Can't answer that AP, but it looks like Suha's gonna be a big movie star:
Of course, no Palestinian movie would be complete without some glamour and this was adequately provided by the PA's very own leading lady - the lovely Suha Arafat. She appeared swiftly from the costume department in a Chanel suit and Hermes silk scarf. No smell of any sewer in Gaza for Suha, as she poignantly narrated a short, but tender, few words about her own hardships, on being apart from her husband and how she fervently wished she could share the plight of ordinary Palestinian women, living as they are with no hope, 10 hungry children and an unemployed husband all because of "the occupation forces". Alas, she has been forced to live in luxurious exile in Paris.
Hope this don't turn into A Star is Born. You know, Yasshole turns into a drunk and takes a late night swim in the Med some night? Hope he leaves behind the Swiss account numbers.
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the lovely Suha Arafat. She appeared swiftly from the costume department in a Chanel suit and Hermes silk scarf.
Rowf! Suha's a pig! Last pic I saw she had more chins than a chinese phone book
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Just in from Debka: "UN envoy Terje-Larsen declared persona non grata by Palestinian Authority after he slammed Arafatâs refusal to halt terror and implement reforms and warned order was breaking down in Palestinian areas"
Which would have been unlikely, had we buckled to pressure from the international community and went back to the table DESPITE the continued terrorism by the PA.
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If Sharon is a hard assed about it as I would be he is planning for the Paleo civil war. I would be watching over Gaza closely and as soon as it looked like one was winning I would decapitate that group's leadership to weaken it. Then, when the next group started to win the civil war I would hit them too. Eventually there will be a core of Paleostinians who are really fed up with killing and dying and they will rise up and destroy the weakened PLO and Hamas and sue for peace.
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Formerly Dan
Well one problem with Sharon is that at several points over the past year his office has made 'death to Yasser' comments which have caused a 'bounce' in Yasser's popularity.
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Can you believe that Hillary happily kissed that puss?
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mhw
If I was in Sharon's position I wouldn't talk about any of it. Leave Arafat locked up in his compound and take the opportunity to take out the others. If anyone asks about it just say "no comment."
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Korora, perhaps this is more your style. There was certainly no offense intended in my previous post, as should have been very f**king clear, but you're one stuffed shirt to have responded that way. No worries, though, I'll leave you alone from now on. HAND.
Reminds me of the best insult I've ever heard from someone in a bar. He's trying to get a beer from the barkeep as the barkeep holds court with other patrons at the other end of the bar.
"Miss!"
"Miss?"
"MISS PIGGEEEEEEE!!!!"
Besides my mother, I've never seen a woman so pissed off in my life.
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It's okay Korora. .com happens to love that porn "beautiful" stuff. It's just the way he's wired.
The rest of you guys better not make Korora feel bad. Some men see porn "beautiful" stuff as nothing more than an imaginary adolescent foray into fantasy pretend-sex, which can cause unproductive, unsatisfying, obsessive addictions, substituting for, and supplanting the opportunity for actual, commited adult male/female relationships. And they don't want to "get their rocks off" that way. Good for them. They're not "stuffed shirts" "living in their mom's basement."
Others claim porn "beautiful" stuff is just "pretty" pictures.
Personally, I get offended by some of it because a lot of what I've seen displays women as property objects, and opens the door of the mind to treat them as such--which is just plain wrong and kind of stupid. Just another version of jihadi mindset idiocy, if you think about it.
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hey i got a brilliant idea - how about instead of debating porn, we all go back to mideast politics?:)
I note that Arafats aide has questioned if Larsen really speaks for the UN, and Mr Coffee himself has spoken up and said, yes, he does.
And yes, Larsen did help pitch the Jenin story and is NO friend of Israel, so this is ESPECIALLY important.
Thinking about it, it seems like Arafat is going down anyway, and the EU and UN dont want to be left with the loser - better to turn from Arafat and play the next game.
As for Arafats fate, let him go to Paris, or maybe he can to africa and hang with Aristide.
Y'know, I love smart women. The smarter the better, in fact. Looking at your post, now that it's carved into RB stone, would you say you're making this personal? I apologized to Korora as much as Korora deserved. It could've gone much differently with a tolerant response to my original post - as there was no offense intended or, IMO, given. Even so, I backed off and won't address Korora directly again. That should be enough. Note that K didn't admit to any poor judgement in posted comments.
Now here you are, eyes a-fire, fuming and waving your arms where there is no need or call for it. So, it seems prudent to me to ask:
Is this now personal, ex-lib?
Israel would like to view Barnier's visit as indicative of the success of its policy to boycott Arafat's visitors. When Sharon introduced the policy in 2003, some feared that it would boomerang, and that Israel would find itself isolated in a "Muqata."
However, this policy, as some senior diplomats in Tel Aviv concede in private conversations, succeeded beyond all expectation. Ultimately, the European Union blinked first. The visits to Arafat decreased significantly. Over a dozen European foreign ministers have visited Israel in 2004, while only fewer than a third also met with Arafat.
Even among his European supporters, there is growing recognition that Arafat is an impediment, a "small scoundrel," as one ambassador put it.
But despite this, Israel's victory is incomplete. Sharon succeeded to some extent to remove Arafat from the equation in our relations with Europe, but he has not succeeded in removing him entirely from the game. Even those Europeans that maintain that Arafat is responsible for his own isolation are convinced that he should be given some role that would preserve his dignity and defuse the lethal bomb that attempting to remove him could set off. The shuttling by the Egyptian intelligence chief Omar Suleiman between Ramallah and Jerusalem has the support of the Quartet and proves that the question of Arafat's relevance remains relevant.
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With regard to the lovely Suha's chins...my husband once informed me that in Egypt, at least, the standard for beauty is 100 kilograms. His cab driver took one look at my shortly-after-wedding-nerves photo, learned that I'd borne neither sons nor children, and failed to understand why my husband hadn't exchanged me for a heftier model. I still don't make the cut, but I'm unfortunately edging closer!
The blindfold and cigarette gag . . . best! quip! ever!
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LH - "thats why im a liberal"
But a manly & Hawkish one - and I still consider that a compliment as no one has yet convinced me of the merits of the PC Way.
I believe Sharon's / Israel's policy is astonishingly obvious (I wish it had occurred to me first!) - and effective. In the world of diplo-puffery, it was a bombshell, I'm sure. I'm not certain I agree with the last statement of your quote, but the rest of it sings, lol!
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see i like tolerance, which means I got major problems with intolerance Deciding to tolerate intolerance may be an interesting academic theory (frankly it IS an interesting academic theory) but its no way to live in the world.
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The PA may fall! Quick, call Kofi & the UN so they can transfer some more money and yell at America for this terrible tragedy! And get .com to E-mail those pictures to Arafat - give the bastard a heart attack! And send them to Suha, too, with an attached note that says, "This is who we think your husband's secretly dating while you're in Paris."
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Remember Nice to the Nice.
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.com said: "ex-lib - Heavy Sigh. Y'know, I love smart women. The smarter the better, in fact."
If you're complementing me, thanks. If not, I still applaud you. Some men like women who are stupid and "use-me" oriented. I respect a man who can hold intelligent women in high esteem.
"Looking at your post, now that it's carved into RB stone, would you say you're making this personal?"
Nope. It's just my assessment of an issue relevant to the US of A and the broader scope of politics in the world as it relates to social issues impacting politics in the world--an issue you have provided, multiple times, as "entertainment" (right?) on this blog. As you may recall, a couple of times I thought your posts in that direction were funny, but it's easy to get carried away, and, as I said before, I don't want you embarassing yourself. But if you really must . . . go ahead and carry on with it. And I'll gripe about it if I want to. Neener-neener-neener and so there, too.
"I apologized to Korora as much as Korora deserved. It could've gone much differently with a tolerant response to my original post ."
You're being defensive. Besides, I hardly think him telling you he is chaste in his hobbies or interests (i.e., "birdwatching) was intolerant, .com.
"- as there was no offense intended or, IMO, given. "
I know you weren't trying to offend him. You were just making a good-natured joke. I got that, already--before I posted anything about your "link".
"Even so, I backed off and won't address Korora directly again. That should be enough."
Yeah. That was cool. But others were starting to get in on it, and I didn't think it was cool for everybody to dog pile him with personal "you're not a real man" insults, just because he doesn't want to participate it tit-gawking.
"Note that K didn't admit to any poor judgement in posted comments."
Well, maybe you really offended him. Did you think of that? Some men are private about their sexuality, as an aspect of their sense of personal nobility.
"Now here you are, eyes a-fire, fuming and waving your arms where there is no need or call for it."
You've got to be kidding, .com. Actually, I was quite calm when I wrote my response. It was primarily an intellectual response, not an emotional one. Read it again.
"So, it seems prudent to me to ask: Is this now personal, ex-lib?"
Not sure what you mean, "personal" -- Only if the shoe fits, I guess. But I call 'em the way I see 'em. And that's the way I'm wired. Anyway, I let you off the hook in my opener, so what's your beef? I made valid points, whether or not you agree with them.
Sorry if my post bothered anyone else. I've been called "blunt" before. : ) But I still stand by posted opinion. For those of you guys out there in cyberspace who are just a little racy--I don't care. It's those that get addicted to photos as sexual fetishes, that get trapped. That weakens the individual, and subsequently, diminishes the character of the society as a whole. And that bothers me. Deal with it.
.com--you're okay with me. No friendly fire intended.
Has anybody seen any Islamotwerp trolls I could bash? They don't come 'round here too much anymore, but they're sure a lot more fun to wrangle with.
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Some men are private about their sexuality, as an aspect of their sense of personal nobility...
For those of you guys out there in cyberspace who are just a little racy--I don't care. It's those that get addicted to photos as sexual fetishes, that get trapped. That weakens the individual, and subsequently, diminishes the character of the society as a whole.
ex-lib, I just wanted to applaud such outstanding eloquence. Even though this thread is old news, I do not care. You have outlined a precise and perfectly cogent argument against the prevalent merchandising of women as inert sexual objects while doing so rather elegantly. I, for one, appreciate your candor for the "bluntness" it isn't and suspect Korora just might as well.
As for intelligent women, I wasn't aware of any others that were acceptable.
Pakistan Army with the active support of the local tribesmen, FC and Khasadar force has effectively sealed the border in Mohmand Agency which shared 68 kilometer long international border with Afghanistan and ruled out the possibility that any terrorist sneaked into the agency after the deployment of the army in the agency in June 2003. âWe have effectively sealed the border and will not allow any terrorist to enter into the agency,â said Brigade Commander Brigadier Muhammad Iqbal while briefing foreign journalists at the headquarters of Mohmand Rifles in Ghalanay on Tuesday.
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Of course they have. There'll be no more trouble emanating from Mohmand Agency... won't there???
In a rare rebuke of an ally, the Bush administration announced yesterday that it will cut $18 million in military and economic aid to the authoritarian government of Uzbekistan because it has failed to take a series of promised steps to improve its human rights record. The decision will not affect funding Uzbekistan receives from the Nunn-Lugar project to secure nuclear weapons material. Programs that support democracy groups and health care will also be exempt.
State Department officials, who had been warning President Islam Karimovâs government for months that the additional aid package was in jeopardy, said they hope the move will send a tough message that political repression can be costly. But Congress, concerned about the countryâs human rights record, conditioned the new money on substantial and continuing progress in meeting human rights commitments Karimov made during a visit to Washington in 2002.
Insurgents killed a Bulgarian hostage in Iraq and vowed to kill a second Bulgarian within 24 hours, al-Jazeera television reported Tuesday. The Arab satellite station said it had decided not to broadcast a videotape of the killing because it was harmful to the jihadi cause too gruesome. But it showed footage of one of the Bulgarians kneeling before three masked men and wearing a blindfold and orange jumpsuit.
Bulgaria, which has contributed 470 troops to U.S.-led forces in Iraq, confirmed that one of the two truck drivers had been killed. "One of the Bulgarians has been executed," said Bulgarian government spokesman Dimitar Tsonev. Bulgaria, which has said it will keep its troops in Iraq as long as they are needed, had urged the militants to release Georgi Lazov, 30, and Ivailo Kepov, 32, who disappeared June 27. There was no word on which man had been killed. The Monotheism and Jihad Group, which had asserted responsibility for the beheading of an American and a South Korean in Iraq, threatened Thursday to kill the Bulgarians within 24 hours unless U.S.-led forces freed all Iraqi detainees. The U.S. military has branded the group's leader, Jordanian-born Abu Musab Zarqawi, its number one target in Iraq, saying he is behind much of the violence racking the country.
Rat bastards.
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"...Mr Lazov's mother said that she "sensed" it was her son who had been killed. "I don't blame anyone in Bulgaria, everything that could be done was done," she said..."
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I think that here's a lady who understands that 'freedom' isn't some nebulous concept dreamt up by cynical right-wingers to justify war for [insert your choice of conspiracy theory here], but is something very real, and worth making sacrifices for. She believes this, even though her son wasn't a combatant. She has the kind of intestinal fortitude and integrity you just wouldn't find in many soft-living Westerners nowadays.
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Quit calling them bastards. That's an insult to real bastards who had no choice in their parents' marital status. If you want to insult the jihadis try calling them sons of bitches. Dogs are unclean in their lexicon.
Sounds like Bulgaria still understands the cost, and the value, of freedom.
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Bulgaria has lived under the Soviet jackboot for 50 years or so. They do not want to go back to that type of existance.
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With the end of the brutal conflicts in Liberia and Sierra Leone, West Africa is seldom in the news or on the policy agenda these days. Yet the region is quietly gaining recognition as what it has long been: a haven for al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Weak and corrupt governments, vast, virtually stateless stretches awash in weapons, and impoverished, largely Muslim populations make the region an ideal sanctuary.
U.S. Gen. Charles Wald, deputy commander of the European Central Command, has been warning Congress and the Pentagon for months that al Qaeda-affiliated groups are active in Mauritania, Mali, Chad and Niger. The trade in diamonds used by terrorist groups, begun under the protection of former Liberian strongman Charles Taylor, continues despite international efforts to curb it. "The terrorist activity in this area is not going to go away," Wald warned recently. "This could affect your kids and your grandchildren in a huge way. If we don't do something about it, we are going to have a real problem on our hands."
From Pakistan Today
The Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) observed protest demonstrations in all the mosques of the city [Karachi] against the proposed amendment in blasphemy laws on Friday. The MMA workers chanted slogans against the government for implementing the 'US agenda' in the country. Addressing on the occasions, MMA leaders said all these amendments were being imposed on the will of the US government. They would sacrifice their life in support of the laws but would not tolerate the change, they added.
For the protection of these laws, they warned, they would cross the boundaries and the government would be the responsible for any eventuality. Earlier, the Ferozabad police on Friday prevented the workers of the MMA to stage protest demonstration by snatching placards and megaphone from them in front of the Numan Mosque, PECHS. According to details, the MMA workers came out of the mosque after Friday prayers to stage a protest demonstration and started chanting slogans against the government's alleged intention to alter blasphemy laws, the police tried to stop them ...
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Addressing on the occasions, MMA leaders said all these amendments were being imposed on the will of the US government. They would sacrifice their life in support of the laws but would not tolerate the change, they added.
Really...sacrifice your life...a leader in the Muslim world will sacrifice HIS life?
From Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty
Gunmen targeted a prominent female Afghan political figure in what appears to be a failed assassination attempt, AFP reported 12 July. "I was on my way back from Khogiani district to Jalabad city when we saw two armed men on the highway waiting for our convoy," female activist Safia Sediqi, the womenâs representative for eastern Nangarhar Province, told the news agency. "But as soon as they realized we had more than a dozen bodyguards they tried to escape." Sediqi said her guards pursued the attackers. One got away, and the other committed suicide to avoid capture, she said. Sediqi said the suicide victim "swallowed his identity card and destroyed documents he had on him, then he blew himself with one of the hand grenades he was carrying." Sediqi had traveled to eastern Afghanistanâs Nangarhar Province to investigate rural problems and visited the Khogiani district some 90 kilometers east of Kabul. Suspected neo-Taliban insurgents in the area have killed four female election workers in recent weeks.
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LOL If he eat his ID then blew himself up.. it shouldnt be hard to find out who he is.
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