Militants allegedly involved in an attack on a French oil tanker threatened the prosecutor during a court hearing yesterday that they would cut off his legs. One of the 14 defendants in court, Qassim Al-Rimi, told prosecutor Saeed Al-Aqel that he âwill pay dearlyâ if he didnât stop his âstubbornness,â and threatened to âcut offâ his legs. On Tuesday, Al-Aqelâs house was targeted with a grenade but there were no casualties. Security officials said initial investigations showed that a brother of one of the defendants was behind the attack. âIâm not a man who is afraid of threats and I will continue my job to serve the nation until justice is done,â Al-Aqel told Al-Rimi.
Among those on trial is Fawaz Al-Rabeiee, a Yemeni sought by the FBI. A 15th suspect was being tried in absentia. They are accused of planning and carrying out the Oct. 6, 2002, suicide attack on the Limburg tanker that killed one Bulgarian crew member and caused 90,000 barrels of oil to spill into the Gulf of Aden. The group was also charged with carrying out the November 2002 attack on a helicopter carrying employees of the US oil company Hunt Corp. after take-off from Sanaa International Airport and the killing of a Yemeni security officer. Some of the defendants are believed to be linked to Al-Qaeda terror network.
The defense called for the charges to be thrown out, citing lack of evidence and violation of their clientsâ rights, including barring lawyers from attending questioning sessions. The prosecution alleged that during the opening session in May, some of the defendants acknowledged discussing a possible attack on Hull in retaliation for the CIA-operated assassination of Sinan Al-Harethi, Al-Qaedaâs chief agent in Yemen, in November 2002. âA partial confession is a full confession,â said Al-Aqel. The court adjourned until July 17.
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Let's see, wasn't it Yemen that recently flushed out dozens of captured terrorist suspects back into both their military and society? I guess they still have some major lessons to learn. All their conciltory gestures are now rewarded with more threats of violence. This is like cutting off a healthy limb in order to improve blood flow to a tumor.
Masked men looking for Westerners in Saudi Arabia held a security guard at gunpoint last week outside a local firm in the Eastern Province, where militants killed 19 foreigners in a shooting spree in May. A company employee said on Saturday three gunmen drove up to the gate of the construction materials factory, part of the al-Zamil Group, in Dammam on Wednesday and asked the guard if any Americans, Britons or other Westerners worked there. "They left when the guard told them that no Westerners were working there," Abu Aaref al-Shammari told Reuters, adding the gunmen had threatened to kill the guard if he moved. The incident may indicate that militants were still trying to attack Westerners in the worldâs largest oil exporter despite last monthâs killing of the al Qaeda leader in Saudi Arabia, Abdulaziz al-Muqrin, in a clash with security forces.
Gee. Golly. Y'think?
Shammari said the company had summoned the police, who launched an investigation. He said a German glass expert, who had been doing some work for the company, left Saudi Arabia after the incident. Shammari said that from the guardâs account, the gunmen appeared to be "troublemakers" who had been influenced by the recent attacks in the kingdom.
"I'll kill yez if yez make a move!" Yep. Sounds like a troublemaker to me.
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"Shammari said that from the guard's account, the gunmen appeared to be "troublemakers" who had been influenced by the recent attacks in the kingdom.."
Al-Qaeda members are not going to bring down the monarchy. It is the "trouble makers" whom they (royal family and its imams and mullahs) have brainwashed for years to hate and blame westerners for their miserable existences.
Three armed gunmen approached the al-Zamil aluminum factory in the city of al-Dammam, threatened the guard with a firearm and inquired as to whether there were U.S. citizens employed by the company or residing in company housing. (al-Zamil is an Arab-owned company.) The incident occurred at approximately 1340 local time on 7 July 2004 but was reported one day later. The gunmen drove away after the guard told them that there were no U.S. citizens in the company compound. No further details are known at present.
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"The latest warning forced the Bahraini Parliament to react. It said the warning was at best exaggerated and nothing warranted telling foreigners to leave.
Bahrain recently arrested a group of Saudis who were taking photographs of âsensitiveâ installations including a bridge and the US Embassy. They were later released when it turned out that were innocent tourists who wanted a memento of their visit just like any other tourist in the world."
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In the "Your Name" box you can type in anything you want. Your cookie was missing, so it gave you the next available Anonymous #, I'd guess. Just change it when you post your next comment and it will stay that way (store a cookie with that ID) until you wax your RB cookie, again.
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No, we'll have to send him to the Village.
Now, which one of us is Number Two?...
Mike
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With every post he makes
Another flame he takes
Odds are he won't post again tomorrow
Secret Poster Man
Secret Poster Man
Fred's given you a number
And taken away your nym.
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Mike - Lol! Long time since I thought about The Prisoner. Wow, long ago / far away. But it was very cool, being so veddy veddy British and all!
Okay, Off-Topic of course, but can you remember TW3? That Was The Week That Was? Rapid-fire recounting of the week's news (by a panel - seems this is where I first saw David Frost) with much snarkiness and punnery. My favorite program from the Laugh-In era. Not long after that, they started showing Monty Python and, of course, the rest is history / downhill, heh.
TW3 was Tom Lehrer, of course. Long before my time, darn it, but I have CDs and a book of the lyrics/piano scores for my daughters to work on. Always amusing for strangers when such sweet-looking young ladies sing the Lumberjack Song!
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Whoops! The Lumberjack Song was Monty Python. They also sing, very sweetly, the Irish Ballad (About a maid I'll sing a song/Sing rickety-tickety-tin...who murdered her entire family most gruesomely in 7 verses)
The people on the television talked so fast! Chatter! Chatter! Chatter! My parents would erupt in deafening howls. Pretty much a big mystery to me at first. I guess TWTWTW was my introduction to political punditry and cultural humor.
So, yeah...I remember.
(Still laughing at Shipman's allusion and Matt's rendition...good ones!)
This is the show I was referring to:
"That Was The Week That Was (popularly known as TW3, and occasionally as TWTWTW) was a program of topical satire expressed through one-liners, skits, songs, etc. The show aired in the United States on the NBC television network, beginning with a one-hour special in late 1963. The program was picked up as a midseason replacement in the 1963-64 season and ran through the 1964-65 season.
The American TW3 was derived from the original, more influential, and reportedly more biting BBC version of the show (1962-63?). The American version had no star or host, per se. Principal performers included "Special Correspondent" David Frost (who was also a member of the BBC's TW3 troupe), Henry Morgan, Elliott Reid, Doro Merande, Margaret Hamilton, Buck Henry, Bob Dishy, Alan Alda, Pat Englund, Phyllis Newman and Nancy Ames (known as the "TW3 Girl," and the only cast member to appear in every show throughout the run). Guest performers, a regular feature of the first season, included Allen Sherman, The Chad Mitchell Trio and Woody Allen. Puppeteer Burr Tillstrom performed his innovative hand ballets (unique, expressive performances using his bare hands) on several shows; he was also the hands behind the dreadful animated Him Beagle Johnson, the White House pet seen several times later in the run."
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Here's a great Flash of TL's The Elements song - found while cruising thru googled links on TW3. It has a reference to That Was The Year That Was - a compendium, I believe, of TW3 weeklies...
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Dear Lord, I DO remember that - IIRC it was on Friday nights, because for some reason I remember seeing it on a bowling alley TV set (my Dad bowled in leagues for years). And BTW, The Prisoner started a complete run again last night on BBCAmerica - my son, who had never seen it, watched and pronounced it "twisted, but in a good way".
Might be hope for the boy yet*S*
And Tom Lehrer did do a tune called 'That Was The Week That Was', but I am not sure if it had anything to do with the show. Professor Lehrer (IIRC)is an instructoir at Stanford these days, and has answered all requests for new songs with a single response:
"Writing songs about the events of our times would be like asking residents of Pompeii for a few humorous comments about lava."
We love ya anyways, Tom.*S*
Mike
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Shaikh Saud bin Ibrahim al-Shraim, preacher at the Grand Mosque in Makka, told worshippers attending his Friday sermon that Saudi authorities were sincere in forgiving armed dissidents who voluntarily surrender. "Hurry, you who have committed mistakes and are now in hiding, to make this initiative a new beginning in correcting (your behaviour) and return to the true path," Shraim said in a speech that praised repentance as an Islamic ideal. "Hurry to catch up with those who have been promised forgiveness in life and death, for God Almighty has said to those who have repented ... that He is forgiving and merciful."
The one-month amnesty offer was announced on 23 June. No armed dissidents have surrendered since two handed themselves in shortly after the amnesty was announced. De facto Saudi ruler Crown Prince Abd Allah issued the amnesty after the killing of the groupâs head Abd al-Aziz al-Muqrin. Only one of the two men who surrenderd was on a list of 26 most-wanted people, issued last year after an anti-Western campaign claimed 85 lives. The second is wanted for arms smuggling. At least 13 people on the list are still at large, and experts say scores more - who are not on the list - remain free. In a statement posted on the internet, al-Qaida supporters dismissed the amnesty. It said last monthâs killing of al-Muqrin would only increase the groupâs determination to topple the pro-US royal family ruling the regional oil power. Saudi experts say the amnesty does not guarantee a full pardon. Under Saudiâs Islamic Sharia law, victimsâ families are entitled to compensation and can demand the death penalty even if the state has issued a pardon.
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Lol! Even if it is and Al Jizz article, Dan, how can you resist an in-line comment when you see something as wacky as "the pro-US royal family" ???
Get 'em while they last!
Yemeni forces have killed a further 25 supporters of an anti-U.S. rebel religious leader and offered a $54,000 reward for his capture after nearly three weeks of fighting, a government paper said on Friday. "Twenty-five supporters of Hussein al-Houthi were killed in the latest attacks on the rebel strongholds and 50 others injured," âSeptember 26â said on its Web site, adding that one government troop was killed. "A 10 million Yemeni riyals ($54,000) reward has been offered for anyone who captures the rebel al-Houthi to bring him to trial," the paper said, quoting an official source in the Saada area, 240 km (150 miles) north of the capital Sanaa. The latest casualties raised the death toll to at least 172 after the government launched its offensive in the mountainous province against Houthi and his "Believing Youth" group.
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Cuba has ordered a study of its military recruitment program, hoping to enlist more young men in the armed forces during a period in which authorities say they are increasingly concerned about a U.S.-led military attack. A special commission to "study, propose and control (military) recruitment policies and their ties with the nationâs education program" will be created under a decree signed July 2 by President Fidel Castro (news - web sites) and his brother, Defense Minister Raul Castro. "In the last years, the politico-military situation has deteriorated considerably, creating a new situation that has elevated international tensions against our country," the text reads.
Although the decree does not single out the United States, Cuban authorities in recent months have repeatedly expressed concern that the United States might attack. Officials in Washington have repeatedly insisted that there are no plans for an American military attack on Cuba. Current events have increased "the real possibility of an armed aggression, in whatever moment the enemy finds it convenient," the text adds, an obvious reference to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq (news - web sites). The decree acknowledges a drop in recruits for career military service in recent years, in large part because of increasingly lower birth rates over the past two decades and a shortened period of compulsory service for young men. Under Cuban law, men 18 and older must serve in the military 24 months, or 12 months if already enrolled in university. Little more than a decade ago, young men had to complete 36 months of service. Military service for women is voluntary. The decree said military recruitment and service would be studied by a commission comprised of officials from numerous ministries, including defense, education, economy and finance and public heath.
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as much as the US might not like Castro give me one good and rational reason we would want to hurry the inevitable process along. Sooner or later Fidel will pass on, and even if Raul takes over I really don't think there is going to be the same commitment to the Revolution. It is a concept that has always mystified me. Dynastic Communism
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give me one good and rational reason we would want to hurry the inevitable process along
because Castro uses his power to expel undesirables to the US via boatlifts? Because he actively works with Chavez in Venezuela to undermine democracy and control oil exports? Because he consorts with FARC in Columbia? Should I go on? It'd be a crime against humanity if dies in his sleep. Raul needs to feel mortality's limits as well
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There is quite a few things the U.S. could do:
1) Barring European and Canadian "tourists" to Cuba from entering the United States.
2) Denying airlines that fly to Cuba (Iberia, Air France) landing rights in the US
3) Making it illegal to send money to Cuba
4) Banks, tourism companies, importers, exporters doing trade with Cuba....
OK you get it... Had these measures been imposed in the early 90s the tourist dollars would not have saved Castro.
Followers of former Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski founded a new party in Skopje on 4 July. It has yet to be registered with a Skopje court but will be called Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization-Peopleâs Party (VMRO-Narodna or VMRO-NP). Vesna Janevska, a medical doctor and close ally of Georgievski, was elected as the partyâs first chairwoman.
The new party was reportedly founded as an attempt to replace incumbent Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization-Democratic Party for Macedonian National Unity (VMRO-DPMNE) Chairman Nikola Gruevski with Georgievski, his predecessor.
In some respects, the move came as a surprise. In recent weeks, reports had indicated that the ongoing leadership struggle between Georgievski and Gruevski had been resolved, at least for the time being (see "RFE/RL Balkan Report," 4 June 2004). Georgievski, who leads the more radical, nationalist wing of the VMRO-DPMNE, seemed to have stopped his attacks on Gruevski, who heads the partyâs moderate wing.
In fact, the latest stage in the conflict between Gruevski and Georgievski dates back to the spring, when Gruevski and his supporters in the party leadership nominated the relatively unknown Sasko Kedev as presidential candidate, while the radicals would have clearly preferred hawkish former Interior Minister Ljube Boskovski. When Boskovski was subsequently barred from running for president on legal grounds, he and Georgievski called for an electoral boycott that contributed to Kedevâs defeat ("RFE/RL Newsline," 26, 29, and 30 April, and 12 and 17 May 2004, and "RFE/RL Balkan Report," 19 March, 9 April, and 21 May 2004)."In the coming days, we will step up pressure on the ground to isolate Nikola Gruevski and his followers." -- Georgievski ally
Meanwhile, the rift among the VMRO-DPMNEâs members deepened further. Georgievskiâs followers within the VMRO-DPMNEâs Executive Committee even set up a parallel Executive Committee, which they claim is the legitimate one. Marjan Dodovski, one of Georgievskiâs allies in the new executive committee, told "Dnevnik" of 5 July that "we are the committee which owes its legitimacy to the members and which has the support of the partyâs rank-and-file." He added that, "in the coming days, we will step up pressure on the ground to isolate Nikola Gruevski and his followers."
Gruevski, for his part, repeatedly rebuffed his opponentsâ demands for an extraordinary party congress to resolve the leadership struggle, arguing that such a congress can only be called by a 51 percent majority of the partyâs central committee members.
In an interview with the Skopje daily "Utrinski vesnik" on 3 July, Gruevski described the atmosphere within the VMRO-DPMNE as poisoned, adding that the time will come when his opponents will be ashamed of their words and actions. He said some of his former allies have changed drastically, "as if the devil had taken hold of them."
As a result of Gruevskiâs refusal to call a party congress, his opponents decided to found the new party, the VMRO-NP. According to the Macedonian dailies, their plan was to defeat the VMRO-DPMNE in the fall local elections, thus forcing Gruevski to resign. Then, the VMRO-NP members could rejoin the VMRO-DPMNE, with Georgievski as its old-new leader.Gruevski said some of his former allies have changed drastically, "as if the devil had taken hold of them."
In one of her first interviews, VMRO-NP Chairwoman Janevska told "Dnevnik" that the new party will not be simply a safe refuge for Georgievski. "Our aim is to hear the voice of the Macedonian people," Janevska said. "Those members who join us feel that the [VMRO-DPMNE] has been [hijacked] by its current leadership.... The policies of Nikola Gruevski and his followers will lead us astray from the VMRO-DPMNEâs principles."
The newly founded VMRO-NP adopted a party program that closely resembles that of the VMRO-DPMNE. The VMRO-NPâs statute also allows dual membership in both parties.
However, VMRO-DPMNE Deputy Chairwoman Ganka Samoilovska-Cvetanova said that the VMRO-DPMNE statute explicitly forbids simultaneous membership in other parties. "But at the moment, we have more important priorities and will not take any measures against those who join the VMRO-NP," Samoilovska-Cvetanova told "Dnevnik" of 6 July.
Georgievski and his followers among the VMRO-DPMNE members of parliament have not joined the VMRO-NP. They reportedly fear that they will lose their legislative seats if they leave the VMRO-DPMNE. Tanja Karakamiseva of Skopje Universityâs law school told "Dnevnik" that if elected members of parliament change parties, they immediately lose their right to a seat.
In a first reaction to the founding of the new party, Gruevski told "Utrinski vesnik" of 5 July that the new party seeks to weaken the VMRO-DPMNE in the local elections and ultimately to destroy it. But Gruevski also signaled his readiness for a "peaceful" resolution of the leadership issue. "We are still prepared to talk to our opponents and calm things down, but if they want to [destroy the VMRO-DPMNE], then I wish them good luck with their new party," Gruevski said.
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... Peshawar?
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"Whadya waznt fo dem AK's?"
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THE case against French terror suspect Willie Brigitte has been suspended while authorities investigate claims that he may have been illegally extradited from Australia last year. Lawyers for Brigitte insist French authorities did not follow proper legal procedures to have him transferred to Paris following his arrest in Sydney last October. They have lodged a request for the extradition to be disallowed. If the request is upheld, the case against Brigitte would collapse and he would walk free. French legal sources have said that the judiciary is taking the formal request "very seriously" and will not be handing down a decision until September. "If the request is successful, it will cancel the charges against him," said one government insider. "He would walk free."
Under French law, Brigitte cannot be questioned while the legalities of his incarceration are being examined. Up until the review, which was ordered last month, the Guadaloupe-born French national was regularly interrogated by Franceâs leading anti-terror judge, Jean-Louise Bruguiere. French investigators have linked Brigitte to senior operatives of al-Qaeda, including some of Osama bin Ladenâs trusted lieutenants.
The former French marine, 35, allegedly has links to organisers of the September 11 and March 11 (Madrid) terrorist attacks. Judge Bruguiereâs team asserted Brigitte travelled to Australia in May last year to help a local terrorist group "prepare a terrorist act of great size". Brigitteâs "mission" was to look after an explosives expert from Chechnya who was set to be smuggled into Australia posing as a fan of the Georgian team competing in the Rugby World Cup.
The dossier also lists the names of people claimed by Brigitte to be leading figures of Sydneyâs Islamic terror network, including Lakemba imam Sheikh Abdul Salam Mohammed Zoud and Pakistani-born architect Faheem Khalid Lodhi. Lodhi has since been charged with a raft of terrorism-related charges after police allegedly found incriminating documents and materials, including a stockpile of bomb-making chemicals. Brigitteâs Paris-based attorney, Jean-Claude Durimel, has refused to comment on his legal challenge to Brigitteâs extradition.
Meanwhile, Brigitte has refused to speak with Australian anti-terror police who flew to Paris last month as part of the investigation into his alleged plans.
Brigitte has said he is not obliged to speak to Australian investigators because he was outside their jurisdiction. French Justice Minister Dominique Perben has refused to comment on claims that his ministry may have bungled the case against Brigitte by its extradition.
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Belgian police arrested two suspected Sudanese members of Osama bin Ladenâs Al Qaeda network at Brusselsâ main airport late Friday, Belgiumâs VTM commercial television reported Saturday. A Belgian federal police spokesman said two arrests had been made, but was unable to give further details. "I can confirm that there have been two arrests in Zaventem (airport). I donât know about their nationality or any supposed terrorist ties," spokesman Jan van Ransbeeck said, adding that he believed the arrests were made early Saturday. VTM said the two had flown in from Athens, Greece, and were traveling on forged passports. The television network, quoting no sources, said the police found photographs of militants involved in suicide operations in the suspectsâ luggage and a mobile phone number referring to bin Laden. Earlier Saturday the Netherlands said it was increasing security at key locations after receiving information that radical Islamists might be planning terror attacks.
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Say, Athens, don't we have the Olympics there real soon? Maybe these guys were in the trials?
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At least she's consistent. I think it was in the 1970s I saw a video of her dancing around in a headscarf, waving an AK, and ranting about Israel. At the time she was considered so wacko that Hollywood wouldn't touch her, which she blamed on the Jews, but someone in the industry said that nobody, no matter what they do, wants to work around a seriously crazy person if they can avoid it.
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Cyber Sarge - they were Jews, they don't count with her.
Vanessa Redgrave has been practicing common-sense-ocide her entire life. I feel sorry for her sister Lynn, who seems from all accounts to be a normal person. Her father Michael must be spinning in his grave.
Another member of the clueless, pampered Left. If she thinks the Palis are so wonderful, wonder why she doesn't move there?
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Still, crazy, but now ugly.
Kill.
No redeeming features.
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Redgrave said the barrier "impedes communications between the Palestinian and Israeli people."
Congratulations, Vanessa. You understand the purpose of a barrier. However:
No mother could possibly be accustomed to the fact that her little girl will go to school "and will sit with her classmates and an Israeli sniper will shoot at a classroom full of Palestinian children who are in their uniforms with their little scarves," she said in Jerusalem. "Any Palestinian mother or schoolchild knows that a schoolchild who is dressed in the uniform can be and is frequently shot in the head -- not in the chest, not in the legs, in the head," she said, according to Jay Bushinsky, who attended the Jerusalem press conference. According to Bushinsky, Redgrave based her horrendous allegation on one of four documentary films produced by UNRWA and screened last month at the world organization's alternate headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland, where a conference was held on life in the Palestinian refugee camps. But a query put to UNRWA's spokesperson in the Gaza Strip, Paul McCann, suggested that Redgrave either was dissembling or simply misunderstood. McCann said that one of the productions, Huda's Story, related the story of a Palestinian schoolgirl who was shot in the head in Khan Yunis. McCann pointed out "it was a ricochet," implying that the gunfire was not aimed directly at her head, as Redgrave had implied.
If she actually believes that Israeli snipers would shoot schoolgirls, sat in class, in the head, then she's a complete, irredeemable idiot. If she's repeating the lies of the Palestinian propaganda machine knowing them to be untrue, then she's a malicious anti-Semite trying to incide further hatred towards the Israelis. She must be aware that Palestinian terrorists target innocent Israeli civillians, and that many of their victims are children - for instance the recent quadruple murder of an Israeli mother and her girls, shot by Palestinian men, point-blank through the windows of their gunfire-immobilised car.
It's the latter, of course - she's a despicable apologist of genuine infanticide, herself. She knows whose side she's on, and it's the terrorists'.
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I will gladly escort Vanessa to her red grave.
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I'm ashamed she's British, but then many 'performers' the world over share her sympathies. I suppose it's 'anything so long as it gets a reaction' behaviour.
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Raj, I'd hit it to. I'd hit it so hard she'd try and vote for Bush twice.
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Outraged at the 90% reduction in Jewish civilian casualties resulting from the construction of the 'security fence' the International Judiciary declared that fence an Arab-Rights violation.
Vanessa Redgrave, U.N. "Good will" ambassador explains the methods and targets chosen:
''Any Palestinian schoolchild knows that a Jewish schoolchild can be and is frequently shot in the head -- not in the chest, not in the legs, in the head.''
Certainly this severe reduction in the quota of Jewish schoolchildren claimed by the Palestinian Arabs could cause the population to grow out of control requiring a 'final solution'.
/Sarcasm off
Israeli spokespersons responded:
If there were no terrorism, there would be no fence.
A Canadian who U.S. Attorney-General John Ashcroft warns may be planning a terrorist strike against the United States this summer was in Toronto two months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, according to a confidential FBI document.
The internal document listed as "not for public release," issued by Washingtonâs FBI Counterterrorism Division, says the current whereabouts of Amer Elmaati are unknown but he was "last known to have entered Toronto" on Nov. 9, 2001. Elmaati is "considered armed and dangerous," according to the document.
His family has repeatedly said they have not heard from Elmaati, 41, since he left Toronto for Afghanistan and Pakistan in the late-1990s, and that they believe the U.S. government is using him as a political pawn.
"I wish it were true and I could see him," Elmaatiâs Egyptian-born father Badr said yesterday when told about the FBI document. "I pray he is still alive."
The FBI document also lists the three passports that were issued to Elmaati (his name is also recorded as Amer El-Maati, Amro Badr Eldin Abou El-Maati and Amro Badr Abouelmaati). He obtained the last one in Islamabad in 1998, and the document says it lists his fatherâs Toronto apartment as his residence. It was issued before his previous passport had expired, presumably after he reported that passport lost or stolen.
The most recent passport expired on Dec. 2, 2003, according to the FBI document, which means he could have been travelling legitimately with it until seven months ago.
The FBI document for "law enforcement use only," was posted on the Internet site for the sheriffâs office in Jonesboro, Ga., and also included an unedited version of the FBI warning that was updated in 2002.
It was first discovered by Sentinel Threat Management System, a Virginia database company with a comprehensive site that compiles public information on alleged terrorist threats and suspects. The respected site also listed Elmaati as "incarcerated," a detail then picked up by more than a dozen other Web sites as proof that Washington was scare-mongering for political gain by alleging terrorists were at large when in fact they were secretly already in custody.
Yesterday, however, Web operators at Sentinel TMS said the "incarcerated" classification was an error and they had no information that Elmaati was in custody. By yesterday afternoon his "status" on the Web site was changed to "alive."
The story of Elmaati, who was born in Kuwait, and his younger brother Ahmed is still scarce on detail and there are two distinct versions.
In May, FBI Director Robert Mueller disclosed that Elmaati was a trained pilot and now suspected of planning a Sept. 11-style attack against the United States.
Elmaati had "discussed hijacking a plane in Canada and flying it into a building in the United States," Mueller said.
In response, Prime Minister Paul Martin and Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan said Elmaati had not been in Canada for some time.
Some of the information relied upon by U.S. authorities concerning Elmaati may have come from another Canadian, Abdurahman Khadr, who was once held in U.S. detention at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He has claimed he was hired to work as a spy for the CIA. Elmaati is believed to have lived near the Khadrs in Afghanistan and sources say both Canadian and U.S. authorities questioned Khadr about Elmaati. Although Elmaatiâs brother had been investigated by Canadian security agents before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, it was the discovery in November, 2001, of a cache of papers in an abandoned Al Qaeda safehouse in Kabul that landed Amer Elmaati on the FBIâs wanted list. The documents included a 1996 letter from the Canadian government saying he had just received citizenship, and a Toronto General hospital card listing his name.
According to the confidential report, this was when Elmaati was in Toronto. But the FBI report also said he was given his first Canadian passport in 1991.
He also uttered the name Maher Arar while in custody. Although Arar said he had only met Elmaati once, in a chance encounter in Montreal in 1999, itâs believed this mention of his name by Elmaati was one of the reasons the 34 year old was detained a year later in the United States and deported to Syria.
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From the article: When Committee staff asked why the CIA had not considered placing a CIA officer in Iraq years before Operation Iraqi Freedom to investigate Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs, a CIA officer said, 'because it's very hard to sustain . . . it takes a rare officer to go in . . . and survive scrutiny [redacted text] for a long time.'
Typical Senate armchair bozos who have watched too many James Bond films. It's hard to see how the CIA could have done any differently. The most successful intelligence agency (the KGB) in the world never placed any Russians in the highest echelons of American government. To suggest that the CIA is capable of placing an American in the Iraqi government is beyond ludicrous. These senate committee people are a bunch of fantasists. When you look at these bozos in the Senate, it's not surprising that so much of the the rhetoric coming from Capitol Hill is so vacuous and plain moronic.
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Amen Zhang! I have burned the blogs up explaining that there are just some things we do not know. Unless we had one of Sammy inner buddies on the pay we could not possibly know everything that was going on. We had pictures of lots of "suspect" sites but without any other Intel we only got half (or less) of the story. Same thing concerning Osama. Unless he gets on a phone (we are listening to) and explains his plans we can only guess.
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True, Zenster. It'd be great to have one of your own in a key spot. But it's much easier, faster, and somewhat more efficient to have a coterie of foreign agents than one or a few of your own implanted.
As for loyalty - well, there's always 'quality assurance'.
An investigation of the black market supplying nations wanting nuclear arms has spread to more than 20 firms â some of them North American â the chief of the U.N. atomic agency told The Associated Press Friday. A senior diplomat identified one of the firms as U.S. based. Demanding anonymity, the diplomat also said the Syria and Saudi Arabia are also being investigated as possible buyer nations, beyond Iraq, Iran, Libya and North Korea â the countries known to have been in contact with Pakistani scientist A.Q. Khan and members of his procurement network. But the diplomat, who is familiar with the Vienna-based IAEA told The AP that beyond suspicions prompting a continuing investigation, "there has been no proof" on Syria and Saudi Arabia that would warrant them being reported to the board of governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency. In separate comments to The Associated Press, IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei avoided specifics on the locations of the firms supplying the nuclear black market beyond saying there were "over 20 countries, some of them in North America." Name names or STFU. This appears like more of an effort to take the spotlight off ElBaradeiâs complete failure with Iran than any major revelation of US wrongdoing.
The diplomat said at least one of them was in the United States. He declined to elaborate, saying the agency "was not yet at the bottom of that story." But he said what is known about that company sheds new light on the activities of the network, known up to now for primarily supplying technology to North Korea, Libya and Iran as part of the process allowing them to make enriched uranium that can be used either to generate electricity or make weapons.
They'll never name names, probably because it's an outright lie. If we do get a name, it's going to turn out that the firm was supplying meals in a box to the workers on the project, or something stupid like that. Look - if a US firm was knowingly involved in this operation, the firm should be shut down, and the decisionmakers sent into lifetime solitary confinement at a supermax prison. But until we get a name, this is more of the usual French-/Arab- disinformation machine's BS.
Zhang Fei is right, though. I'll be very surprised if it's found that a US company was "supplying" nuclear material or parts to the "nuclear black market."
And if it's true, you can bet on 2 things: (1) the company will have been encouraged by, or have some relation with, someone in the Clintoon adminstration, and (2) the lamestream media will blame the Bush administration.
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Look - if a US firm was knowingly involved in this operation, the firm should be shut down, and the decisionmakers sent into lifetime solitary confinement at a supermax prison.
Full agreement, Zhang Fei. Like I said, this is just a smoke screen for the IAEA's total failure in Iran.
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How unusual (not)--the AP reports that the IAEA fingers an American co. for supplying contraband materials, yet gives a pass to Soddy Arabia and Syria on the nukes...Typical.
Reminder to RBers: the AP is trying to get al-Rooters crown for Leftist Propanda purveyor these days.
Read every AP article accordingly. Rinse. Repeat.
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If there is a US company, waddya wanna bet it's owned/operated by a muslim? Think that will ever come out?
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The source of the info is "GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer"
George Jahn states: An investigation of the black market supplying nations wanting nuclear arms has spread to more than 20 firms â some of them North American (What does this term mean?)
Where? Canada, Mexico? Or inside the U.S. with American CEO'S? (not Muslims/Persians/Arabs etc)
Monitor this story and see if anything further developes.
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If a US firm is found to be involved in anything like this the CEO and board should be taken out and shot, period
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ij-ti-had, n (id'd'it) 1. evil intentioned person of a certain religion of race/peace, 2. Nazi bastards, 3. stoneman, 4. a thrower of stones, 5. one you learns by rote (see mez-mer-ized).
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Sure, we can live in peace with islam. Just as soon as all filthy muslims are dead. ALL MUSLIMS MUST DIE, AND ANY MEMORY OF THEIR CULT ERASED FROM MEMORY.
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Halfass Pete, don't hold back, tell us what you really think! :)
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Yusuf Al-Qaradawi and all other violent scumbags like him need to be scheduled for immediate liquidation. The sort of homicidal bile this b@stard spews needs to result in so many followers of it dying that such ideas become something only whispered about in back rooms instead of being shouted in Mosques.
The sooner that Muslims of all stripes begin reporting upon hatemongers like Al-Qaradawi, the more likely it is that Islam as a whole will not be ground into f&%king dust under the bootheel of secular democracy.
Seattle police are taking a fresh look at security plans for an upcoming conference of governors here, following Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridgeâs warning of a possible terrorist attack, KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reported. Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske was included in a conference call with Ridge and other law enforcement leaders before Thursdayâs announcement that al-Qaida is seeking to mount an attack aimed at disrupting U. S. elections.
Next weekend, Seattle will host governors from all over the country who will attend the National Governors Association Conference at the Westin Hotel. While the governors visit Safeco Field, the home of Bill Gates, the Space Needle and the Experience Music Project, among other places, their security will be in the hands of the Seattle Police Department. "Itâs caused us to go back and to re-look, and once again take another final review of every precaution that we are putting into place," Kerlikowske told KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reporter Amy Clancy. Seattle has not been mentioned specifically as a terrorist target, but during the conference call Wednesday night, Ridge said the terrorist threat was high for summer conferences. Kerlikowske said no Seattle police officers are being allowed to take vacation and there will be more officers -- both in uniform and plain clothes -- patrolling Seattleâs streets.
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Y'know, since there is a truly dense concentration of uberidiotarians in the Seattle metro area (such as those who dishonored the Iraq War Vet in yesterday's story; a local Palestinian paper; etc) it's hard to think of a single place in the US with such a collective shit for brains social identity more deserving of a wake-up call. Screw it, Ridge. They won't listen, anyway. Let the Seattle PI 'explain' it to the zoomies in their highly nuanced style, assuming they aren't within the kill zone, too. I wanted to move there, because the climate is the opposite of Saudi, then, reading their newspapers online for less than a day I realized they were collectively loonier than almost anywhere else in the US. Sigh. Good guys, vacation time. Yo, bad guys, clear some space for me. I want rain, green.
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Hey .com, not all of us here in the Seattle area are loonies. I agree that most people who live in the Central Seattle area (Especially on 1st and Queen Anne hills), for the most part, are complete socialist wackos and think Kerry is too 'conservative' but there are a few of us real conservative types on the outskirts and neighboring cities. -- more then you might think.
Besides I work in Downtown Seattle (I wouln't live in socialist Seattle or King County for anything!).
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I live in Wallingford and have the misfortune of being "represented" by Jim McDermott (D-Baghdad). Like Fremont (the heart of the beast), too many folks here think that hating Bush is a centrist statement.
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Name names! I am nowhere near there and will be searching the 'Net. Give me some options which aren't out on the dry nasty plateau. I want green and wet. Where's the first layer of sanity?
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Like I said, I would not live in King County for anything. King Country's government is pretty much owned by the LLL (example: They [used to] give free condoms to 'sex industry workers' - isn't that a business expense?) includes Seattle however I think Bellevue/Redmond (Eastside) is a little less wacko... (and is the home to Microsoft...). I also think West Seattle isn't as LLL as central Seattle.
I live in Lynnwood (Snohomish County - north of King) and it not too bad. Everett (Snohomish County) is a smaller city with some conservative values about 25-odd miles from Seattle. I chose Lynnwood because it is closer to my work without being in King County. For everett news see www.heraldnet.com the online version of their newspaper.
I dont know much about Tacoma (South of Seattle in Pierce County). I think Tacoma used to have a crime/drug problem in the past. Generally the further out you are the more conservative. Unfortunately none of it is a 'Bastion of Conservative values' :(.
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I'll skip on names as the area is a lot closer
to call than you'd realize. Very big swing state (Senator Cantwell won by about 100 votes, for example)
this is a link to the '02 election reesults by district, use that as a guide (identify the district of a place you are considering, and look it up)
http://www.awb.org/ga/elect2002/electmain.html
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.com: The CL household moved to Seattle early last year--pre Saddam smack down. I thought we'd rent a place close in (Wallingford, Greenlake Area) for a year while we sussed things out. Fifteen minutes of walking around and seeing the exact same "No Iraq War" sign on at least half of the homes convinced me I wanted nothing to do with the Seattle scene. As I got back in my car I saw a dude walking up the street with another armload of signs. So it was off to the Eastside to look at Bellevue, Kirkland and Redmond. Very few of the mass produced No Iraq War signs. And they were slightly outnumbered by "Support Our Troops" signs--many of them hand made.
Which plateau are you referring too? There's nothing truly dry (even during a drought) nor remotely nasty in the Puget Sound area. Apart from some of the political beliefs.
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Skip on names cuz of what? That makes no sense to me. Sigh.
Re: "close"
Well maybe I can help swing it the other way. Every vote counts, although FlameBait was speaking in riddles yesterday implying a vote for Nader in CA would be better than a vote for Bush to "hurt" Skeery. Doh! Possibly the supidest thing I've ever heard. Good nym, if he/she was serious.
Thanks for the linkage - I'll go check it out now. I've got Mapquest open and the Internet Public Library's online newspapers for Washington state... Bremerton seems to cover the Bainbridge area and its "The Sun" covered the Iraq War Vet story - lots of apologies for rudeness, but not for being just to the Left of Trotsky.
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Pierce County/Tacoma has always had an inferiorty complex and a smelly reputation for corruption and stinky air. The air is no longer stinky though but the elections around here a very shady.
You can get some nice plots of land on river front around the area of South King called Covington (SR-18). Also, I hear good things east up I-90.
I live in Puyallup, it's okay, you can get there from here, if you know what I mean, but traffic is the pits and wont be getting any better. Check out Kitsap County on the Olympic Peninsula too. Very cool.
If you do hit town maybe the Sounders can get together and burn a Tri-colors.
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CL - The Eastern Plateau is high plains and definitely dry. I've been to the nuke site at Hanford - north of Richland - and I know I prefer the marine layer over the plateau.
I'd like a medium-sized city 100K - 250K so it would have tons of dining choices, good internet connectivity, decent range of accommodation options.
From the Congressional Map Brutus linked - it looks like East Tacoma (Fircrest vicinity) might be of interest. Still wading through the districts and trying to cross-ref to a real fucking map thence to the local newspaper(s).
Thx for the feedback. If enough non-CA non-idiotarians filtered in, we could swing this swing state, lol!
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Thx, Lucky - I'll check it out! I appreciate whatever specifics come my way. It ain't phreakin' easy to relo 1000 miles and not get stuck for 6 months or more in a hole-in-the-wall apt, snakepit of morons, or cesspool area. Thx, again!
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.com you mean Eastern Washington. In the Seattle area when you say plateau most folks think Sammamish Plateau, which is about midway between downtown Seattle and North Bend heading east on I-90.
You might consider Bellingham. It has its tree hugging aspect. But you'd still be able to find a good gun club.
If you *really* care about Internet connectivity, broadbandreports.com is your friend. Pick an address within 10k feet of a Covad equipped central office. (Covad did a pretty good buildout in Western WA during the boom.) Then sign up for 6 megabit DSL service thru Speakeasy.net
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Good to hear there people more Loonie than Cal-e-forn-yans :P Hey saying I'll vote for Nader pisses off the LLL since they still claim that it's "Naders fault" Gore lost and that "Bush stole" the election. So I claimto be voting for Nader. At this point I may since it appears California will vote democratic. If it looks close I'll vote for Bush just like I did last time but I will hold my nose to to it.
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CL - Bellingham? I read their newspaper and gagged! Comparing the headlines of papers on the CIA and ICJ stories tells you whassup in the editorial dept... I'll look closer!
FB - You're going to hold your nose while voting for Bush? Lol! I would usually have a few choice suggestions for you, but I'm feeling extra-charitable at the moment and determined to try to remain on a higher-than-usual (for me) plane of discourse, lol! Hey, it's a free country. Do whatever. Ain't no saving a country that doesn't want to be saved. If the zoomies win, I'll run out my string in Chiang Mai and leave the game. Say howdy to Zappie and the boyz.
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.com, Whatcom County (where Bellingham is) might surprise you. It was in the landslide category for Bush in 2000. Close to Vancouver too, which has lots of fun stuff and is cheap for Americans.
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The thing is Dot, the Puget Sound area is very long but, strangely, bound together. What with ferry service linking Seattle with all of the sound, getting there or there is easy. Ask yourself what you want. A view of the Sound, a view of the Mts or just plain space. It's here. But also keep in mind that a Douglas Fir is a tree weed and is the cause of much damage to roofs and landscape.
If your after something unique, be patient, keep your cash ready, because there really are some fabulous places to be had.
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Thx, Lucky. I've got a 6 month plan which pivots on a few things. That gets me to and thru the election, if no kinks arise. Then I'll think long term. It was 66 in Seattle today - and 104 in Sin City. Nuff said, no?
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.com,
I still do not understand why you moved to another desert after leaving Saudi. We are looking to buy a house now and are only criteria is that the house has to be in a forest. I want to see greenery and flowing water.. .I cannot bare the tought of living in another oven after leaving this place.
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Well, it's a long story, unworthy of the bandwidth. I'm about to correct it.
Something for you to consider when you return...
States without a State Income Tax: Alaska, Florida, Nevada, South Dakota, Texas, Washington and Wyoming. Two others, New Hampshire and Tennessee, tax only dividend and interest income.
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Thanks for the info. We are going back to Michigan (around the Lansing area). My husband is from there and he has decided to give something back to his community in the form of teaching...Political Science or History. We are taking a huge paycut but we both think it is worth it!
Six months after the eruption of violence in southern Thailand, investigations have shown no connection between separatist elements in the area and inter- national terrorist organisations, Thai Interior Minister Bhokin Bhalakula says. "Fortunately we donât see any kind of linkage between international terrorist organisations and these separatists. We donât see any trace. On Al-Qaeda, we have no trace at all,â he said in an interview with The Straits Times earlier this week.
"No, no! Certainly not!"
But he said the local and international environments made it possible that ideas propagated by organisations like Al-Qaeda might be well received by disaffected youth already prejudiced against the Thai authorities.
Dr Bhokin, one of the administrationâs key men in efforts to restore stability to the violence-torn southernmost provinces, said there was no evidence to show that the Jemaah Islamiah (JI) group had links in the south. Asked about the four men in jail in Bangkok, accused of being JI members and plotting to bomb targets in Thailand, he said: âThey are suspects, we have to wait for the courtâs decision.â
He said the government had made progress in completing the registration process for more than 200 Islamic boondock pondok schools. âI donât like to say we want to control them, we just want to know what is going on with the schools, and we want to promote and improve the schools not only for religious teaching but for professional teaching as well.â
He said information obtained from more than 50 local people interrogated after the April 28 violence, in which 108 Muslims - mostly youths - were killed by security forces, showed there did not appear to be any formal group behind the violence. The ideologically driven youths operated in a loose, informal manner, similar to student movements during the Communist insurgency of the 1960s, Dr Bhokin said. Students may be influenced by perceptions of what was going on internationally, believing all Muslims were brothers and were being oppressed, he added.
Pshaw! Where'd they get that silly idea?
He said the issue of malpractice by corrupt government officials assigned to the south was part of the set of deep-rooted problems that had coloured localsâ perceptions of the authorities. This was also being addressed and several officials, including policemen, had been removed where it was necessary.
Cases of abductions of locals - blamed on law and order agencies - have fuelled fear and resentment in southern Muslim communities and in some cases spawned revenge killings. But Dr Bhokin said that of the more than 100 cases of abduction alleged by the locals, only 29 had proved genuine.
"The rest were staged by Michael Moore."
Still, it was an uphill battle to change perceptions because âin general, people donât like policemenâ.
Development funds for projects have also started flowing into the south. The government has allocated more than nine billion baht (S$376 million) for security and development projects. However, Dr Bhokin said, because of the history of the region and the complexity and depth of the problems, it would take a long time to sort out problems in the south. But he added: âI think itâs a good thing all this happened this year. If the groups had more time to get organised, it would have been more dangerous. We now know more, and we can adapt.â
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Who would you believe: the CIA or the interior minister?
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Thais are embarking on a cruise down the same river of De-Nile (sic) the Saudis have being going for a while now. Hopefully, it will not be too late (like in Saudi) when they wake up and realize that the jihadis are running the show.
Foreign sources transferred over 100 million baht to leading separatists to fund violent acts in the deep South and the state will start cutting them off from Monday, said Defence Minister Chettha Thanajaro yesterday. Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday also said most separatist leaders were in Malaysia and there was lack of concrete progress on Thailandâs request for their arrest. Gen Chettha said authorities found evidence of the transfers to the bank accounts of many key separatists who had received about 40 million baht each. ``Financial examination found the shocking fact that money was transferred from overseas locations to the accounts of many people behind the incidents,ââ he said but declined to reveal the sources. ``Some people received US$1.6 million each and others US$1 million each. So each of them got over 40 million baht. We must cut off the overseas support first,ââ he said. The minister also said several key separatists worked locally and overseas to coordinate the transfers of the foreign funds.
Soldiers will on Monday start their hunt for people involved in the Jan 4 army firearms robbery and the April 28 attacks on security units in the deep South. After the July 11 deadline for separatists to surrender, the military will start hunting suspects who failed to report, Gen Chettha said, adding that nearly 100 suspects are targeted. ``No matter whether they are in the country or have already fled, we will hunt them anyway, and chase them from towns and communities into the forests and keep pursuing them until we nail them,ââ he said. More than 120 separatist suspects aged 15-40 have surrendered and the number should almost reach 200 at the Sunday deadline. Most are teachers and students of Islamic ponoh schools in the deep South. Gen Chettha said although martial law is in effect in the deep South, separatists arrested from Monday will not be tried in military courts, since that could create a human rights issue because a military court provides no channel of appeal.
Meanwhile, Mr Thaksin said Thai authorities had forwarded arrest warrants to Malaysia requesting that key suspects be rounded up, but authorities there had not made the arrests. Reacting to Mr Thaksinâs comments, Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar told AFP in Kuala Lumpur: ``I donât know what is meant by little cooperation. Thereâs been a lot of contact between the security people of both countries. The security of southern Thailand is equally important to us.ââ Howeve, the minister said, there was confusion over the names given for the alleged militants, and ``we donât have the addresses. It will take time. We need to verify the information and the information is not straightforward.ââ
"Cheez, and these guys have so many passports, and we have to check each one out."
In April, Mr Thaksin irritated his Malaysian colleagues with similar charges, leading Mr Syed Hamid to tell Bangkok to stop playing ``the blaming gameââ. Mr Thaksin later visited Malaysia for talks with Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who pledged full support for Thailandâs efforts to crush the southern separatist militants. Fourth Army chief Lt-Gen Pisarn Wattanawongkeeree said yesterday the state needed to convert tens of thousands of young people in the deep South back from separatism. About five to 10 people aged 15-20 in each village in the region were enticed to join the separatist cause and there were 1,576 villages there, he noted. ``We must bring them back to our side or we will be in trouble,ââ he said. The commander is also seeking the prime ministerâs permission to establish two paramilitary ranger regiments to recruit southern Muslims to take responsibility for local security.
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One guess as to where most of the cash is coming from: SA
The son of an Iranian-Canadian photographer who died in an Iranian jail a year ago Saturday, blasted a looming court proceeding on the case as a âfarce.â Zahra Kazemi, 54, was arrested in June 2003 for taking photographs outside Tehranâs notorious Evin prison. She died in hospital on July 10, 2003 from a brain haemorrhage caused by a blow to the head. The case triggered a diplomatic row between Ottawa and Tehran â and ties between the two countries are still in the deep freeze, a year later..
After a fierce struggle over the case between Iranian conservatives and reformers, court proceedings are due to resume in Iran on July 17. Kazemiâs family will be represented by Nobel peace prize winner Shirin Ebadi. âThis trial is the same farce that it has always been,â Kazemiâs son, Stephan Hachemi told AFP on Thursday. Hachemi also complained that the trial would fall well short of a complete inquiry into his motherâs death. Intelligence ministry agent Mohammad Reza Aghdam Ahmadi, 42, has been charged with âparticipation in a semi-intentional murderâ, in a case that has sparked a feud between the courts and the intelligence service. International press watchdog group Reporters Without Borders marked the anniversary of Kazemiâs death by warning that impunity would triumph.
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Muslim militants threw a grenade near a crowded bus station in Kashmir on Saturday wounding 34 people as violence mounted in the Himalayan region, police said. The grenade was aimed at a police vehicle in Anantnag district in southern Kashmir, but it exploded on a street instead, wounding civilians who were waiting at a bus stand. Violence has spiralled in recent weeks in Kashmir which authorities say could be aimed at disrupting a fragile peace process between India and Pakistan who both claim the rugged region. More than 70 people have died this month alone. India and Pakistan, who were on the brink of war in 2002, last month agreed to serious and sustained negotiations for a final settlement of the dispute in Kashmir.
Agence France Presse/Agencies What is wrong with the French? Whomever wrote this article (no doubt a french weasel), portrayed Johnsonâs brother as trailer-trash alcoholic who was in too much of a "daze" to do his own talking. What scum the author is!
The ailing brother of an American beheaded last month in Saudi Arabia and a US-based peace activist traveled Thursday to the family home in Jordan of suspected Al-Qaeda operative Abu Mussab Zarqawi. Indian-born evangelist K.A. Paul and Wayne Johnson, 48, of New Jersey, told a press conference they went to the home in Zarqa, northeast of Amman, as part of efforts to call for the return of the body of Paul Marshall Johnson, Jr., 49, of New Jersey. Initial Saudi law enforcement reports indicated Johnson's body had been recovered, but were later retracted. A search for his remains continues.
Paul said he met briefly with one of Zarqawi's sisters, while Johnson, who suffers manic depression and alcoholism and walks with a cane, stayed in the car. We spent a few minutes, asking them important questions we wanted answered (such as) do you support terrorism or do you support peace? , and they said they are opposed to terrorism, Paul said.
He said Zarqawi s sister, whom he didn t name, was gracious enough to answer my questions and talk, and we had a brief prayer. She said we do oppose terrorism. We feel sorry for Johnson s family. We support peace and promoting peace. We are not a terrorist family. He added: We wanted the victim Johnson, the only brother who is still alive, and the Zarqawi family to voice support for peace, to say enough is enough, that terrorism will not be successful no matter where it is.
Abu Mussab Al-Zarqawi is the accused mastermind of anti-US attacks in neighboring Iraq and has been linked to Al-Qaeda. The Saudi terrorists accused of killing Paul M. Johnson Jr. also have been linked to Al-Qaeda, though no direct link has been made between them and Al-Zarqawi. Terrorists are terrorists; Al-Qaeda is Al-Qaeda. Al-Zarqawi belongs to Al-Qaeda and the Saudi terrorists belong to Al-Qaeda, Paul had told the Associated Press earlier when asked why he had come to Jordan instead of Saudi Arabia. Paul added that Wayne was afraid to visit Saudi Arabia. Wayne Johnson refused comment to The Associated Press. Wayne Johnson, who sat in a daze, was too confused to speak about the visit to the Zarqawi family home. I am not sure where we went, he said. Asked why he wanted to meet her, he said: So that she can spread the word to retrieve Paul Johnson s body. And he pleaded to the media to help him bring Johnson s remains back to the family home a trailer in New Jersey, where his 80-year-old, cancer-stricken mother also lives. Nobody is talking about him, as if he didn t exist and nobody cares, he said. If it comes out in the media, maybe somebody, somewhere will retrieve the body and bring my brother s body back, he said haltingly. I don t understand why it was decapitated in the first place, he said. I cry nights. I try to be strong. I don t sleep nights thinking about it . The body is no good to them, why not release it, he asked.
Wayne Johnson s trip to Jordan was his first outside New Jersey, let alone the United States, and that he obtained a passport for the trip only Monday, according to Paul. We came here as a first step before going to Saudi Arabia because he is afraid. He didn t want to come. His mother thought he would be beheaded too if he went to Jordan, Paul said. The evangelist, who claims he helped put an end to seven wars, including conflicts in Liberia and Haiti, said his organization, Global Peace Initiative, was on a humanitarian mission to help the Johnsons. Paul Johnson was kidnapped June 12 in Saudi Arabia, where he lived for 10 years and worked for aerospace and defense giant Lockheed Martin
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that's sad on sooooo many levels, and can only benefit from Abu's death notice, hopefully gutshot and suffering, trapped in wreckage for a couple days while he slowly dies
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Arab News reports the story a little differently:
"Before Paul and Johnson arrived yesterday, the same woman with whom they spoke told the AP in Zarqa, 27 kilometers northeast of Amman: âWe donât want to see anybody.â âWho believes that my brother is such an awful man and that he is a terrorist?â she asked. âThis is all lies,â added the woman, veiled from head to toe."
http://www.arabnews.com/?page=4§ion=0&article=48041&d=9&m=7&y=2004&pix=world.jpg&category=World
Kidnappers holding a Filipino hostage in Iraq denied he had been freed and set new conditions for his release, Arabic satellite television Al Jazeera reported. âThe hostage will remain captive and treated as a prisoner under Islam until the last Filipino soldier leaves Iraq by latest July 20 or he will be executed,â the channel quoted a statement from the group as saying. âWe give the Philippine government an additional 24 hours starting from 11:00pm Iraqi time (1900 GMT) on Saturday to show it is serious about withdrawing its troops.â The statement came just hours after Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo sent word to relatives of Angelo de la Cruz that he was on his way to freedom and would be taken to a Baghdad hotel, prompting a burst of celebration at his home.
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From the article: The statement came just hours after Philippine President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo sent word to relatives of Angelo de la Cruz that he was on his way to freedom and would be taken to a Baghdad hotel, prompting a burst of celebration at his home.
Arroyo's incompetence is just staggering. And not just on the matter of the hostages - years after her coup over Estrada, the Philippines is still a basket case. At least Indonesia's Megawati Sukarnoaputri has an excuse - she's just a high school grad. Arroyo's a Harvard grad - just goes to show that Harvard grads are overrated - way overrated.
I'm making some minor changes behind the scenes, having to do with security. If you get sinktrapped or get sent to visit Muffler Man, give me a holler and I'll fix it.
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Specifically, I'm working on the comments...
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Or to be more precise, certain comments and the poop list...
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Need any test posts from the border-line crowd? I'd be happ
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You know, I've been thinking (yeah, I realize that's not necessarily a good thing)...
Purely in the interests of entertainment, I think it would be fun to scramble troll comments (i.e., thoroughly, randomly rearrange the words) rather than simply deleting them.
Leave troll's name alone; change any URL provided to something funny (like the Muffler Man or whatever); and take the entire text of the comment and scramble all the words around. Think of the possibilities.
I have no idea how to write a program that would do that; but I don't imagine it would be terribly difficult.
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Test post
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog
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idea merit bad no has but your Dave have effects
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oops! "may"
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There is a possible benny of a random word order generator. Antisense's postings could morph into something approaching thought.
A million monkeys in a million years at a million keyboards. . . .
In case youâre curious, this is the same idiot who was talking to the AP the other day. Iâm writing up a WoC piece solely for the purpose of refuting his idiocy.
Elusive Jordanian activist Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi has been attracting sympathic Iraqis and his ranks have swelled in recent months, a nigh-ranking US military officer has said. The officer says Zarqawiâs can count on between 500 to 1,000 armed men among his immediate support. His clandestine cell-structure stands alongside a separate revolt of 5,000 hardcore Sunni Muslim fighters, motivated by issues from communal aspirations to the politics of Saddam Husseinâs Baath party, which can grow even larger in times of crisis, the official told AFP.
The two movements are separate, and contrary to claims by the Bush administration, Zarqawi and Saddamâs followers have probably never mixed, the official said. Zarqawi has poached members of the Kurdish Islamist faction Ansar al-Islam, which became active in late 2001, and shared headquarters with the al-Qaida linked operative on Iraqâs mountainous northeastern border with Iran before US air strikes destroyed their compounds in March 2003.
How do you poach members of your own, oh, never mind.
"There have been some number of defections of Ansar al-Islam
individuals... The whole organization is far less capable than it used to be. There are some numbers that have moved over and joined Zarqawi," the officer said. "Zarqawi is a powerful man and his organization has become
pre-eminent. With power, (it) brings the desire of others to join the big guy."
Other small religious factions could also have linked up with Zarqawi.
Zarqawiâs popularity has also sparked a backlash. The Al-Jazeera satellite television said on Friday that a previously unheard of armed group had threatened to kill the Jordanian -the second outfit to do so in three days.
Despite the latest developments, the US officer made clear that the military was nowhere near catching the suspected al-Qaida operative. "He can move relatively free. We donât see Zarqawi. He is not a guy that is real visible. He is a guy who is very cautious. Heâs got his operational security," he said.
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the officer was adamant that Zarqawi most likely never had any ties to the former president of Iraq, either before the US-led invasion in March 2003 or after. "Saddam didnât have any love for foreigners and... thought they had to be very closely watched. We have not found any evidence he cooperated with Zarqawi himself... In any case, I think he would be very wary of that kind of cooperation with Zarqawi."
The officer said that the most dominant strain of the insurgency remained the hardcore 5,000 Sunni Muslim insurgents, spearheaded by veterans of Saddamâs security services. This number could also swell by the thousands in times of chaos, and the US military has failed to cripple the movement since the fall of Baghdad in April 2003, the officer said.
The movement has demonstrated an ability to regenerate through tribal, communal and Baath party ties, the officer said. "They have been dented but they are still operating -- we think they are probably around 5,000 ... We have always said 4,000 - 6,000 and unfortunately the number hasnât gone down because itâs very resilient."
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"They have been dented but they are still operating -- we think they are probably around 5,000 ... We have always said 4,000 - 6,000 and unfortunately the number hasnât gone down because itâs very resilient."
Kill 'em a little faster and the number will go down. Too bad this theory couldn't have been tested with an all-out assault on Fallujah.
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I don't think Zarqawi has functional control over anywhere near 500 people. To do that would require more $ than he could reasonably have. However, if you count people who praise him but don't carry out military or logistics tasks it may be 1000.
As a former Prez might say, it depends on what the meaning of is is.
MANILA, Philippines (AP) - Iraqi militants freed a Filipino hostage on Saturday, Philippine authorities said, just hours after the Manila confirmed it would withdraw its small peacekeeping contingent from Iraq on Aug. 20 as planned. The Arab television station Al-Jazeera, however, said it had received a message from the militants denying that truck driver Angelo dela Cruz had been released.
The Philippine government made no connection between the announcement about its troops and dela Cruzâs reported release. But if the release were confirmed, it would appear the statement by President Gloria Macapagal Arroyoâs administration had satisfied his captors. In Baghdad diplomats were cautious about dela Cruzâs fate. "We donât want to derail the process," one diplomat said on condition of anonymity. "Weâre not going to say we have him until we see him."
The Islamic Army of Iraq-Khalid bin al-Waleed Brigade said in a statement carried by Qatar-based Al-Jazeera television that it had not freed dela Cruz but will give "the Philippines government 24 hours to withdraw from Iraq." Iraqi militants have repeatedly used terrorist attacks to try to force governments to withdraw from the U.S.-led occupation force.
In March, a series of terrorist bombings on commuter trains in Madrid shortly before national elections was believed to have contributed to a victory by the socialists, who had campaigned on a platform of apeasement withdrawing Spanish troops from Iraq. The new prime minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, pulled out the troops soon after taking office.
Militants also tried to pressure South Korea by kidnapping one of its citizens in Iraq and demanding the Asian country call off plans to deploy 3,000 troops beginning in August. South Korea refused, and the captive was beheaded last month.
The men who snatched dela Cruz near the restive Sunni Triangle city of Fallujah on Wednesday said they would kill him unless Manila pulled out its 51-member force within three days. The deadline was hours away late Saturday, when the Philippine government announced his release. "While this man is still not in our hands, he will be brought to a hotel in Baghdad, where he will be turned over to our people," said Labor Secretary Patricia Santo Tomas, who was staying with the hostageâs family in a hotel at the former Clark Air Base. "He is in safe hands," added National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales.
Santo Tomas said President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo had called dela Cruzâs wife to relay the news. Jubilation broke out at the family home in northern Pampanga province. "I feel so relieved," said dela Cruzâs brother Jessie. "We are very happy. Our village is celebrating." The withdrawal announcement appeared to be deliberately ambigious, reflecting the fine line that the Philippines was walking to obtain dela Cruzâs release while remaining one of Washingtonâs closest supporters.
It left open the prospect that Philippine troops could return under U.N. auspices, although a high-ranking official said any further deployment would be the subject of government discussions that would start from scratch. Before the kidnapping, the Philippines had been discussing whether to extend the peacekeeping mandate. "Our humanitarian contingent is scheduled to return on Aug. 20," presidential spokesman Ignacio Bunye said. "Our future actions shall be guided by the U.N. Security Council decision as embodied in Resolution 1546, which defines the role of the U.N. and its member states in the future of Iraq."
Resolution 1546 covered the recent handover of power to Iraqâs interim government. It specifies that Iraq can request "the continued presence of the multinational force and setting out its tasks." The pullout decision is a symbolic blow to the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq, but it doesnât affect the more crucial Philippine contingent - the 4,000 or so civilian workers at U.S. camps around Iraq who would be difficult to replace. Arroyo has frozen any further worker deployments.
A former U.S. colony, the Philippines has maintained close ties with Washington even after the closure of military bases here in the early 1990s. With Muslim and communist insurgencies of its own, the poor country has hosted major counterterrorism training for its troops by U.S. forces, and another round is scheduled to start late this month. Arroyo, who went to Georgetown University with former U.S. President Bill Clinton and was given a rare White House state dinner by his successor, President Bush, has been a staunch U.S. ally, drawing the wrath of the leftist groups that helped bring her to power in 2001.
Arab television station Al-Jazeera showed a video Saturday of dela Cruz appealing to his country to give in to his captorsâ demand, and an appeal by Philippine Muslim leaders for dela Cruzâs release. Mahid Mutilan, vice governor of the Muslim autonomous region in the southern Philippines and an Islamic religious leader, told the insurgents in Arabic that dela Cruz "is a mere truck driver struggling in Iraq ... to feed his poor family here."
Appearing grim-faced, popular movie actor Robin Padilla, who belongs to the Return to Islam Movement, offered to take the place of dela Cruz in Iraq.
"Our countrymen are not your enemies," he told the kidnappers. "We are traveling on the same road. Muslims and Christians should live under the light of peace."
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Another "Neville Chamberlin Award Winning Nation"
Five Russian servicemen were killed in attacks and three others by mines in rebel Chechnya over the past day, an official in the Moscow-backed Kremlin administration said Saturday. One of the died from shots fired from a passing car in Grozny, the Chechen capital, the official said on condition of anonymity. Four others were killed in firing on Russian military positions throughout the republic, the official said. Three soldiers died when their vehicle detonated a mine near the village of Itum-Kale, the official said. The Itum-Kale region and two other sectors of Chechnya came under assault from Russian artillery, the official said. On Saturday, the ITAR-Tass news agency reported that a large cache of weapons, ammunition, explosives and timing devices were found in a home in Ingushetia.
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Four Palestinians were killed Saturday when the Mercedes car in which they were traveling blew up in the Gaza Strip, near the settlement of Netzarim. According to Palestinian sources, the car was badly damaged and parts of it were flung a long distance away. Apparently, there were three passengers in the car, and the fourth victim was a motorcyclist who traveled near the vehicle. The victims have not yet been identified. The Israel Defense Forces said it had nothing to do with the explosion, and that it was probably the result of a "work accident," when explosives blew up prematurely. The army said Palestinians had fired two anti-tank missiles and sprayed machine gun fire at IDF soldiers near Netzarim earlier in the day, but that nobody had been injured. The Popular Resistance Committees, a militant extremist group that includes former members of all Palestinian factions, said three of the four people killed were its members. The fourth, it said, was the motorcycle driver. The group claimed Israeli forces had planted a bomb in the car and detonated it by remote control from a helicopter in the area.
Also Saturday Palestinian sources said that a 15-year-old girl, Halima Abu Samadana, who was shot by IDF troops in Rafah several days ago died of her wounds. Earlier reports claimed the girl was killed Saturday, Israel Radio reported. The IDF said it was unfamiliar with any shooting incident on Saturday and that it was checking the report.
On Friday, a resident of Beit Hanun in the Gaza Strip tried to attack soldiers manning an IDF roadblock on the road leading to the town. Upon approaching the checkpoint, the man pulled a Kalashnikov assault rifle out of his bag and began shooting at the soldiers and threw a grenade. The soldiers shot at the man, but he managed to escape uninjured. No soldiers were injured in the botched attack.
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Carrying out terrorist actions in a Mercedes?.....must be nice...
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"The group claimed Israeli forces had planted a bomb in the car and detonated it by remote control from a helicopter in the area." Why would they do this when a rocket or tank shell is cheap ansd easy?
They blew themselves up or were the casualties of internal warefare.
Murder charges were filed today in the Jerusalem District Court against Ahmed Jafara, accused of the murders of Dov Weiss and his wife Gavriela in Givat Zeâev in February, 2000. The stabbed victims were found in their home in the Jerusalem suburb by their daughter-in-law in the evening hours. The police, who announced almost immediately afterwards that the murder was likely a terrorist crime, suspected Jafara, a resident of a nearby Arab village who had been employed to work in their house. The suspect found refuge in the PA-controlled territories, but IDF soldiers tracked him down and apprehended him a month ago. The indictment states that Jafara murdered the couple after an argument with him. Jafara confessed to the crime and reenacted it, and admitted to perpetrating dozens of other shooting attacks on Israeli security forces as well.
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An armed Islamic group has threatened to attack ships from countries including South Korea delivering US military supplies to Iraq, Seoulâs spy agency says. "A message threatening terrorist attacks on ships carrying military supplies to Iraq has been posted on an Arabic website," a spokesman of the National Intelligence Service (NIS) said. "We have alerted related agencies including maritime authorities and police to this information and called for stepped up vigilance," he told AFP. The Chosun daily quoted a NIS official as saying that the mysterious group on July 3 posted an article on an Islamic Internet site, threatening to attack ships from the United States, Hong Kong, the Netherlands and South Korea. "Shipping companies which carry military supplies to Americans that are used to attack Islamic warriors will be our target," the group was quoted as saying in the brief message. The group identified itself as the Supreme Headquarters of Armed Islamic Warriors in Iraq, the newspaper said. An official of South Koreaâs leading shipping company, Hanjin Shipping Co., said that as far as he was aware, no South Korean ships were involved in transporting military supplies to US troops in Iraq. He said the company and other South Korean shipping firms have stepped up security in line with new international security code for ships and ports that took effect on July 1 amid mounting concerns over terrorism. "But we have not taken any additional measures because of the warning from the National Intelligence Agency," he said.
An imam of a city mosque let his underling beat his wife black and blue right before him Tuesday night for her failure to meet his dowry demands and not giving nod to his intended second marriage. Hafez Maulana Saiful Islam, imam of Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujib Medical University (BSMMU) Hospital Jame Mosque, and his assistant Aman Ullah looked on nonchalantly while muezzin Abdul Kader assaulted and critically injured Sabina Islam, wife of Saiful, in the mosque. Sabinaâs father Sirajul Islam filed a case with Ramna Police Station Wednesday under the Women and Children Repression (Prevention) Act accusing Saiful, Kader and Aman. Of them, police yesterday evening arrested Aman from the mosque. The other two are absconding.
In reaction to the arrest, a gang led by Kashem, president of BSMMU Hospital workersâ union, last night staged a showdown with Sabina in the hospital, where she is undergoing treatment. Witnesses said five angry men, apparently instigated by the imam, tore medical reports of the bruised woman and snatched away other documents from her. Before leaving the scene, they ordered the doctors to immediately release her from the hospital and her family members to vacate the imamâs living quarters. "We are living under awful pressure and constant fear of assault from them," said Sabinaâs sister Shahida Akhtar, who is looking after the victimâs two children, Shammi and Sakib, in absence of their mother.
Shafi, a BSMMU employee, confirmed, "Saiful and his men are threatening with death to whoever tries to help the poor woman and her kids." Narrating her sad story to The Daily Star yesterday evening, Sabina said Saiful had started brutalising her to exact dowry just a couple of years into their 15-year marriage. "He would demand dowry and I would be compelled to seek and bring it from my father," said Sabina, "as, otherwise and if I failed, I was made to suffer severe and relentless beatings and psychological torture." So far she has paid her husband Tk 1.5 lakh in cash. But there was no let-up in the torture, which rather had intensified over the years. Two months ago Saiful had sought permission from Sabina to marry again, which she naturally turned down, "Who would agree to such a proposal?"
The frustrated clergyman, who locals say is an activist of ruling coalition member Jamaat-e-Islami, became furious and quit living in their house adjacent to the hospital. The man started to stay put with his colleagues in their second-floor quarters of the mosque, and stopped giving household and educational expenses to his family. "Tuesday morning, I went to the mosque with my children to collect money to send them to school. But he refused to give any, and kicked and shooed me away," Sabina said. "As he didnât come home, we went to the mosque once more in the evening. After waiting about two hours, I saw Abdul Kader, the muezzin, was preparing his bed in the mosque. I asked him why he was letting my husband stay with them there, instead of persuading him to go back to his family. At this, Kader became furious and started to hit me," she poured out the disgusting details.
"To everyoneâs surprise, Kader grabbed me by the neck, beat me, struck my head repeatedly on the wall and tried to throw me over the veranda railing of the second floor," she said between sobs. "My kids who tried to save me and stopped me from falling from the veranda were also beaten by the cruel man." Ten-year-old Shammi said, "My mother fainted on the scene, vomiting blood. But no-one came to her rescue, since she was the imamâs wife," adding, "Our domestic help and I rushed her to the hospital." Six-year-old Sakib, a kindergarten student of Government Laboratory School, said, "I have stopped going to school since then⊠My father doesnât come home to look after us or visit my mother at the hospital." "I was so ashamed to see my husband look on while another man was beating me in front of him," Sabina said. "And now he is saying he canât accept me any more as his wife, as another man has touched me." She suspects, "He probably has already taken a second wife, without my consent, and tried to do away with me."
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These women need to get out the knives and do some radical truncating "circumcision" at night. Sick f&%ks like these "holy" men should be singing soprano in the choir loft.
The sooner that Islamic women begin to "pare down" their enemies, the better off they'll be.
Four Palestinians, including three militants, were killed when their car exploded in the central Gaza Strip Saturday in a blast that Palestinian security officials blamed on Israel. Itâs always Israelâs fault. Uneducated inept morons screwing around with bulk quantities of high explosives has absolutely nothing to do with it.
But Israeli military sources denied the car blew up as a result of a helicopter missile strike, tank attack or any other military action. The old "red wire - blue wire" problem again.
Security sources said the blast appeared to have been caused when explosives blew up prematurely. Three of the dead were militants from the Popular Resistance Committees who were in the car during the blast, medics said. The fourth was a motorcyclist who was driving past at the time of the explosion near the central Gaza Jewish settlement of Netzarim. Another motorcycle of doom!
The explosion ripped through the car turning it into a pile of smoking wreckage and scattering body parts and metal pieces across Gazaâs coastal road. Palestinian security officials at first said the explosion was the result of an Israeli helicopter missile attack on a black Mercedes-Benz traveling on Gazaâs coastal road toward Gaza City. But they later said it was caused by tank shells. After all, itâs so easy to confuse rotary wing aircraft with mobile tracked artillery ...
Palestinian witnesses said they saw helicopters flying overhead before the explosion. Israeli helicopters frequently fly over the Gaza Strip. Israeli helicopter gunships have carried out numerous strikes against militantsâ cars in Gaza. There have also been numerous incidents when explosives detonated prematurely while being transported. And not a single one of them fails to bring a
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nice solution: allow only red wire to be sold in Paleoland!
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The implication is always "those filthy jooz" blew these "inocent" terrorists up. When in fact people who play with explosives often kill themselves. These diptards are no different.
Now what did I do with that one pound can of black powder.. lalalalala
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This is too good! I guess the paleos ar running low on qualified bomb makers. These three obviously took the home study course and missed a chapter or two. I also would NOT rule out an internal struggle between groups.
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I hope there comes a day when the pricks that work for the AP meet the judgement they so richly deserve. They have been working for the enemy so long that they don't even realize it anymore. Damn them to hell.
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One must remember many of the mass-media reporters have been indoctrinated in PC style of reporting, plus the fact, unlike many reporters on FOX, and a sprinkling of token fair minded media people in a few other networks.
That PC reporting presentation is clearly demonstrated daily on the tax payer funded National Public Radio, CNN & the three major low rating networks of ABC,CBS & NBC.
The enemy is very cognizant of which reporters, which networks they can use to further their anti-American, anti-Israeli and anti-western propaganda.
I am speaking directly about the disgraceful collaboration of CNN reporters and Saddam's media henchmen during the Iraqi ground war.
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Only the totally clueless watch anything other than fox (check the ratings). Those that spin the news know this. That is why the PC press and LLL hate Fox so much.
A primer for Mike moore By Israel Shamir, another Edward Said wannabe, in Arab News, so you can count on it...
âThe Palestinian intifada is over, and the Palestinians have lostââ thus proclaimed the Jewish American columnist Charles Krauthammer in the Washington Post (June 18, 2004). Armed resistance has dwindled; there are no attacks on Israeli civilians; the Palestinians have been brought to their knees, thanks to the assassination of Palestinian leadership and to the Wall that has locked the unruly natives in their ghettos, wrote the Zionist stalwart. Is it true? Is the resistance over, and has the Holy Land been surrendered to the victor? Well, up to a point: Palestine canât be separated from the larger context: The battle for Palestine began in Jerusalem and Gaza, but now it rages in Fallujah and Kerbala, notwithstanding the appointment of a CIA agent as a ruler of âindependent Iraqâ; before coming back to Jerusalem, the war against Judeo-American domination probably will spread to Tehran, Damascus and even European capitals. But the intifada in Palestine unsurprisingly ran out of steam.
The military might of the Jewish state knows no rival in the Middle East and beyond. Armed to the teeth, equipped with the latest American weaponry and nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction, it is probably able to take on any army on earth. Every Israeli man and woman serves in the army, and his or her military exploits are the necessary requirement for any career, from minister to hairdresser. This militarized settler society easily overpowered the thoroughly disarmed native population. The usual weapon of a Palestinian is a stone picked up on his hillside; their famed âsuicide-bombersâ were rather manifestation of their indomitable spirit than a threat to Israel; hardly more than a nuisance from military point of view. Ordinary road accidents kill more Israelis than the Palestinians. None had military training; cordoned off from the outer world, a Palestinian could not obtain arms save those bootlegged by the renegade settlers; no wonder he could not defeat the steely rows of tanks and air-to-ground laser-guided missiles. Moreover, the Jews have a powerful secret weapon at their disposal â their readiness to ruin the land. Their well-planned artesian wells killed the springs of water and turned the Holy Land into parched desert. This week I walked along the watercourse of Ghor (Arugot, in Hebrew), formerly a perennial stream. Home to mountain goat and leopard, this spring dried up, as the nearby kibbutz of Ein Gedi bored a shaft, laid a pipe and caught the water to bottle and sell in Tel Aviv. The gentle slopes of Samaria are disfigured by new roads to new Jewish suburbs. In the north of Gaza Strip, a green land of fragrant orchards is turned into black wilderness of Mordor with smoldering stubs of burned trees. In the ruined land, the settlers prevail over the natives.
And still Krauthammerâs declaration of victory is premature. This immigrants-versus-natives confrontation over the sweet land of Palestine reminds me the Knightâs Tale, this first fruit of Chaucer, that tells of two brothers, Arcite and Palamon, madly in love with Kingâs daughter Emely, âfresh as May with blossoms born anew, all mild and reverent, her body washed with water from a well.â In order to win her hand, Arcite appealed to the god of war, and Palamon pled to the goddess of love. In the decisive tournament, Mars-inspired Arcite defeated the love-stricken Palamon, but he was not destined to wed the fair maiden: After his military victory, he collapsed and suddenly died. The god of war could deliver victory, but only the goddess of love could deliver the maiden. The gentle king gave his daughter to the defeated knight, and âwith all bliss and joyous melody this Palamon hath wedded Emelyâ, concludes Chaucer. Thus the English bard foretold an event unexpected by the hard-nosed Krauthammer: People who love their land will have her, even if military victory will be had by their adversaries. For the land should be loved as Emely was loved by Palamon, as woman is loved by man; and such a love is beyond the abilities of most Jews. Some of them see in Palestine a symbol of Godâs promise to the people of Israel or a pledge of Messianic days, but such symbolic love is doomed to fail.
Likewise, my French socialist friend married a Russian girl, for she symbolized Communism and Dostoyevsky, but their marriage broke down under the heavy load of symbolism. My English politician friend has married to obscure his sexual preferences; he was tired to explain the voters why he did not marry. Likewise, many Jews were tempted to embrace Zionism as they were tired of explaining why they have no land of their own. But tiredness is a poor basis for marriage, and a real woman and a real land werenât made to provide an excuse. The worst of all are Krauthammers, the American Jews who believe that a land they did not plow and did not seed can belong to them for they have the deed, like a summer cottage they rarely visit â they know no love, but an impotent rich manâs jealousy to his bought-and-paid-for slave girl.
The settlers proved their lack of true love at their withdrawal from Sinai in 1980s. Leaving these places after a short sojourn, they smashed everything they could lay their hands on, dynamited every house and bulldozed every garden and vineyard planted by native and imported hands. And now, discussing withdrawal from Gaza, the settlers swear they will obliterate all signs of life on their lands before surrendering them to the hated natives. This is not the way to deal with a loved land: A poet spread his tenderness toward his beloved like a carpet under her feet as she forsook him, and wished her to be happy with her new man, âloved as much as he loved her.â
Indeed, Palestinians never damaged their homes and gardens they were forced to leave, and beautiful old Arab houses and gardens in Talbieh and Ain Karim bear witness to their mastersâ love to the end. Not only their faith in eventual return kept them back from torching their trees and burning their houses down before fleeing to the refugee camps of Lebanon and Gaza â but their selfless love for the land and trees. The Holy Land is a common project by Our Lord God and by her people. He created her, and they attended to her, built her terraces, dug around olives, and worshipped her Lord on her high places. Just as the defeated Palamon won his fair Emely, the vanquished will inherit the land; while victorious in battle will perish unless they surrender to the goddess of love, love to the land and her people.
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Seethe, weep, and roar at the sky, 'tard. You and yours are consigned to history's idiot bin.
Re: Intifada. It will sure as hell over when the wall is built... then the Israelis can stop sending in armor to nab / kill top terror shitheads and use stand-off tools - or just let them stew. They can throw all the rocks they want, hang each other as collaborators, and mega-seethe like the insane lot they are. Eat, sleep, drink, breathe, and shit hate, that's the Paleo way. Intifada, pfeh. Isolation is what's needed - and underway.
Sunday morning Shin Bet Director Avi Dichter made an incredible disclosure at the cabinet meeting. Dichter stated that Israel is the largest contributor to the Palestinian Authority's budget. Israel gives the PA one billion dollars a year. This comprises 45 percent of the PA's total budget. "There is no oversight [to ensure] that each and every dollar Israel transfers doesn't go to funding terror," Dichter said. He added that Arafat's office receives a budget of roughly nine million dollars and, the director of the Shin Bet noted, "I cannot promise that at the margins the money doesn't go to finance Fatah/Tanzim terrorists."
In saying this, Dichter was making a clear and almost unprecedented indictment of the government. Our government is putting a billion dollars a year into a black hole controlled by one of the most active terror regimes in the world. And this terror regime is actively waging war against our country. And of course, our government knows that the PA uses its budgetary funds to finance terror because in the aftermath of Operation Defensive Shield, it published documents seized in IDF raids of PA offices and Arafat's headquarters proving that the PA directly funded suicide bombings and was paying the salaries of terrorists. In any even semi-rational country, this disclosure would have been the story of the week â if not the year. After all, can anyone imagine the US media reaction to a disclosure by the head of the FBI that the US was funding the Taliban or the Ba'athist regime in Iraq after September 11? In any marginally sane society, there would be demonstrations launched, lawsuits filed, black headlines, and stuttering government spokesmen sent out to whimper excuses for the government's financing of the murder of its citizens by the sworn enemies of the state.
Next Wednesday, July 7, 2004, the Islamic Study Group, sponsored by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) will be presenting a âSensitivity and Diversity Workshopâ for NASA employees and managers. And just who will be providing this âtrainingâ? Americaâs âpremier Islamic Civil Rights Groupâ, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Yes, CAIR, the organization that has never met an Islamist terrorist they wouldnât defend, will now teach NASA about Islam in AmericaâŠagain! ACAIR took the opportunity of e-mailing NASA, warning them about CAIRâs past and asking them to reconsider inviting an Islamist terrorist supporting group. NASAâs response? Silence.
We ask, again, what is it about Islam that is so sensitive and delicate that all non-Muslim Americans must be trained in how to react to them? Why is Islam, above all other religions in the United States today, being taught in American institutions? What about Christians? Have Christians ever been invited to NASA to speak about multiculturalism and diversity? How about the Jews? Any invites for them to discuss their culture? Why would NASA invite CAIR to speak to them when CAIR personnel are not allowed in the White House? What special insight does CAIR present about Islam that NASA canât get from some other Islamic group that isnât hell-bent on destroying America as we know it? What next, inviting the KKK to brief NASA about the problems of African Americans? Inviting NAZIâs to speak about a âsolution to the Jewish questionâ in the Middle East? NASA, be warned, no good can come from associating with CAIR. In doubt? Call the Secret Service and ask why CAIR is no longer on the White House guest list.
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that expalins the Nasa problems... when a space organisation wastes time with that shit
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Yes, that explains basically ALL Federal Gov't problems...spending more time on "fluffy, feel good" stuff than on your actual mission. I work at a Federal Agency (name withheld to protect the innocent) and last month they spent more time kow-towing to the gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders and praising them than we did in national conferences. Agency even paid for our GLOBE (Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual Employees group for Federal Employees) representative to fly to the national conference in San Fran (we're in Atlanta) and hob-nob with other queers there. My question to our Administrator in Atlanta was 'what in the world does this have to do with our mission?' Also, a buddy of mine sent him a link to a worldnetdaily.com article about how the queers are all upset cause Bush failed to issue a proclomation in favor of "Pride Month" (June), and neither did our Administrator over the whole agency. Therefore, we questioned our Atlanta administrator on why he should issue a proclomation when neither the Prez or our top boss has? Have yet to hear back from him. Anyways, point is, your and my tax dollars are being spent on this travel, paying employees to be GLOBE "liasions" and putting up banners/sending out proclomations/etc. when even the Prez hasn't endorsed it! And, again, it has NOTHING to do with the work we do, just in the name of "diversity." Diversity & Multiculti. are going to kill this country if we don't do something about it.
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...My dad retired out of NASA in '99, and by all accounts it was a nightmare of PC then - to the point where they literally spent all their time trying to figure out how to insure 'maximum inclusion' at the expense of, oh, I don't know, actual WORK. The Research Center leadership lives in absolute terror of someone accusing them of discrimination in any way shape or form, and NASA is paying for it. Like I said - SpaceShipOne was the stake in NASA's heart. If it still exists in 10 years as anything other than a small research organization, I'll be very surprised.
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Borgboy sez" "give'em their own planet, where they can bomb, burqua, and seethe to their hearts delight. I just don't want it to be earth. Perhaps Pluto is really Islam's "Third Holiest Site"...
via Rooters
Sat 10 July, 2004 09:02
Masked militants have bombed five shops selling alcohol in a town northeast of Baghdad, killing an Iraqi taxi driver who was passing by, police sources and witnesses say. They said four men in two BMW cars blocked a main road in Baquba, a town of both Shiâite and Sunni Muslims, and planted explosives at the shop doors before detonating them. An Iraqi taxi driver, approaching in his car from a side road, was killed by the blast in the early hours of Saturday morning, they added. The owners were not in their shops at the time. Alcohol merchants in Iraq, particularly in the southern city of Basra, have been killed and threatened by Muslim groups who strongly oppose alcohol sales. Did we leave out that seminar on how competition is healthy?
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The question is what were the so-called 'militants' on when they committed this act of terrorism, besides 100% hate?
Once again, Rooters and their PC reporting ...
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The Philippines will withdraw its peacekeeping contingent from Iraq on schedule next month, the government said Saturday, the day militants vowed to kill a Filipino hostage if the troops were not sent home. As the government made its announcement, the Arab television station Al-Jazeera showed a video of the hostage appealing to Manila to give in to the insurgents and withdraw its 51-member force. In a tape Wednesday, the militants threatened to behead the hostage if the government did not comply within three days. The government decision appeared to be deliberately ambiguous, representing the fine line Manila is walking to obtain hostage Angelo dela Cruzâs release while remaining one of Washingtonâs closest supporters of the global war on terrorism. The Filipino soldiers are participating in civic projects to help the 160,000-strong foreign force.
Before the kidnapping, the government had discussed extending the peacekeepersâ mandate beyond its Aug. 20 expiration. But Saturdayâs statement did not address the issue. A government official said on condition of anonymity that sending troops back to Iraq after August is "not a settled issue at the moment" and any new deployment "will be discussed all over again." Saturdayâs announcement also did not mention any further action concerning the Filipino contract workers in Iraq. President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo already barred any more contract workers from going to Iraq, but the statement did not mention any plans to have them return home. The approximately 4,000 Filipino workers on U.S. military bases across Iraq provide food services, janitorial work and building maintenance. The U.S. military, which has diverted as many soldiers to combat duty as possible, would be hard pressed to operate in Iraq without the extra manpower provided by the Filipinos. Earlier this year, three Filipino workers were killed in attacks by Iraqi insurgents.
Dela Cruz, a 46-year-old father of eight from the town of Mexico in northern Pampanga province, was snatched near restive Fallujah in an attack that killed his Iraqi security guard. The video Wednesday showing him surrounded by armed, masked men. On Saturday, another video of dela Cruz was shown by Al-Jazeera. "Please, Arroyo, withdraw your forces from Iraq," dela Cruz pleaded on the new video. His voice was inaudible, but an announcer read an Arabic translation of his words. The Al-Jazeera announcer said the video was intended as the hostageâs last appeal to his family, government and friends. Dela Cruz reportedly worked as a truck driver for a Saudi company. "To my colleagues in the Saudi company, and all Filipinos who are coming to Iraq. I advise you not to come to Iraq, because there are a lot of problems, and the Iraqi police wonât be able to protect you, like what happened to me," he said, according to the announcer. Dela Cruz was alone on the video, wearing a bright orange jumpsuit like that worn by American hostage Nicholas Berg and South Korean hostage Kim Sun-il when they were beheaded by militants. Their killings were videotaped. Behind dela Cruz was a black banner that read: "There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his only prophet," and identified the group that captured him as "The Islamic Army of Iraq â Khalid bin al-Waleed Brigade."
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In the immortal words of the Monty Python minstrel:
Brave Sir Robin ran away,
Bravely ran away, away.
When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly, he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin.
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.com: The hostage appears to have been released.
Filipino officials are making this claim. However, given the tendency of the Philippines government to overpromise and underdeliver, I would take that statement with a healthy dose of salt. Chances are that the hostage will be killed, and Filipino troops will withdraw, anyway.
via NY Post - EFL to remove typical padding crap unrelated to headline.
Jul 10, 9:00 AM EDT
By DANICA KIRKA / AP
U.S. Marines clashed with insurgents at a taxi stand Saturday in a city known as a stronghold of Saddam Hussein supporters, killing three of the attackers and wounding five others, hospital officials said. The Marines came under fire from the group of insurgents in Ramadi, the military said in a statement. Insurgents frequently clash with coalition forces in the region,a hotbed of insurgent activity known as the Sunni Triangle. The fighting left three Iraqis dead and five injured, local hospital official Saeed Ali said. Will follow up with more if / as it comes in.
Doubt there'll be more, as there aren't any dead Americans to report...
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Insurgents frequently clash with coalition forces in the region,a hotbed of insurgent activity known as the Sunni Triangle.
Sudan officials have warned the United States the sanctions it is seeking against the Khartoum government will only worsen the Darfur crisis. Foreign Minister Mustafa Ismail said the United States risks creating another Iraq-style quagmire if it becomes overly assertive about Sudanâs Darfur problem, the BBC reported Saturday. The U.N. Security Council this week debated a U.S. draft resolution to impose sanctions of an Arab militia, known as the Janjaweed, accused of widespread atrocities black Sudanese. Khartoum sends fighter-bombers to attack black villages in Darfur, and then the Janjaweed ride into the villages on horses and camels, killing the men and raping the women, outside observers report. The strategy has caused one million black Sudanese to flee their homes and left another 10,000 dead since last year.
The draft U.N. resolution includes sanctions against leaders of the Janjaweed, which could be widened to include the Khartoum government that supports it. Ismail said these sanctions risked "weakening the credibility of agreements" made with the United States and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan for the Sudan government to disarm the Janjaweed. France has also said it does not support extending the sanctions to the Khartoum government itself. Interestingly, Germanyâs FM Fischer calls for action...
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"Ismail said these sanctions risked "weakening the credibility of agreements" made with the United States and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan for the Sudan government to disarm the Janjaweed."
Uh, yeah, maybe we could get you on the phone to discuss these agreements. Lock on, boys and bombs away! Funny how even the Sudanese are picking up on the "Iraqi quagmire" term from the MSM. Un-freakin-believeable. Guess killing 10,000 in a year and displacing millions more could be considered a "quagmire" too, eh? And where do they get these names...Janjaweed...sounds like they've been smokin' too much janjaweed. Maybe we should just send Bill Cosby over (armed) to give them a good tisk-tisking.
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"Lets Roll." A good place to make the graves of cadres of brigades of jihadi idj-its.
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Don't worry, BaR, when it comes to "action", Fischer isn't really talking about "acting", he just means they should talk about acting -- you know, a non-binding resolution of comdemnation or something. Wouldn't want to imperil the French oil concessions, ya know.
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"...the United States risks creating another Iraq-style quagmire..."
How about we create an Afghanistan-style "quagmire" instead, Mustafa? When we get done, you and your buddies in the "government" won't have anything to worry about...
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"But Israel said it would not accept the court's "unjust" decision." Sounds like the Israelis aint tearing down that there wall! Another SAMRT unilateral move by an Democratic nation.
Afghanistan's oft-delayed presidential election will take place Oct. 9, its top electoral official said Friday, but a parliamentary vote originally scheduled to be held simultaneously was put off until the spring. The vote is seen as a referendum on the rebuilding of this war-ravaged nation and a test of the ability of Afghan and international forces to keep the peace. It will be the first direct election for president in the country's history. Zakim Shah, head of the joint Afghan-U.N. electoral commission, announced on state television that the body "decided to hold the presidential election on Mizan 18" - a date in Afghanistan's calendar that corresponds to Oct. 9. He said the parliamentary vote would likely be in April or May, and appealed to Afghan authorities and the international community to do more to improve security "to create a more secure atmosphere for the candidates and the voters."
State Department spokesman Richard Boucher welcomed the decision. "We think that the elections will mark another major step in Afghanistan's transition to a constitutional and representative government and constitute another milestone," he said. "We join the Afghan government in fully supporting the electoral body's decision, and we'll do our part to assist these historic elections," he added. U.S.-backed interim President Hamid Karzai is expected to win the vote for the top job, but he faces at least a half-dozen rivals in this ethnically and regionally fractured country. It is not clear whether he will garner the 50 percent majority needed for outright victory, meaning a run-off two weeks later may be necessary. Afghans appear genuinely enthusiastic about the chance to vote for their leaders, and more than 6 million of the estimated 10 million eligible have signed up so far, nearly 40 percent of them women.
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KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - Afghanistan's oft-delayed presidential election will take place Oct. 9, its top electoral official said Friday, but a parliamentary vote originally scheduled to be held simultaneously was put off until the spring. The vote is seen as a referendum on the rebuilding of this war-ravaged nation and a test of the ability of Afghan and international forces to keep the peace. It will be the first direct election for president in the country's history.
Publishing facts not attributed to a source: journalistic crack. The statement hightlighted in bold is absurd enough. Hell, I thought the Afgan election was to vote for leaders, not a referendum on rebuilding and an international presence. I guess the writer's ideas on journalism matches his ideas on politics.
The Turkish army has warned the Kurds of Iraq against the consequences of attempting to change the peopleâs demography in Karkouk, renewing its call on the US to chase the fighters of the Kurdistani Labor Party in northern Iraq, considering that Washington has not succeeded in meeting Ankaraâs demands to this effect.
"It's on our to-do list. We'll get back to you."
The assistant for the Turkish army chief of staff Gen. Elker Basbough said in an implicit remark to the Kurds of Iraq that " ethnical groups are seeking to change the demographic structure in Karkouk at a time when measures are taken to establish peace in Iraq." He added " we expect the provisional Iraqi government will prevent that," noting the failure in having a " just and durable solution" for Karkoukâs situation constitutes a threat for the geographical and political unity of Iraq."
Isn't Kirkuk inside Iraq? What's this guy whining about?
Basbourgh warned that such a development will create great concern in Turkey on the security of the region. On the other hand, Basbourgh warned that the Turkish army will keep its forces positioned in north Iraq as far as the activists of the Kurdistani Labor party are in the region. He said " it is clear that the US has not so far succeeded in taking any effective measure against those terrorists and satisfy our expectations."
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Indeed, our top priority should be to respond immediately to the wishes of those that helped us when... er, umm, never mind.
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I bet the Turks won't hesitate to get involved in Iraq when it's in their interest. They just didn't want to help us. Remind me why we're trying to help them get into the EU?
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Isn't Kirkuk inside Iraq? What's this guy whining about?
There are a lot of Turkmen in Kirkuk. They are threatened by the Kurds.
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Mike - "They are threatened by the Kurds."
Really? You have links?
Simply minding their own business in the quite peaceful and already very prosperous Kurdish region, the Turkmen are being threatened by the Kurds? Is this some active campaign? Or is it just that there is a preponderance of Kurd numbers and the Turkmen (and the assholes over the Northern border) wish it were otherwise?
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Here's a link I found in five seconds by searching for "Turkmen" and "Kirkuk":
The article starts: Three people were killed and dozens more wounded when Kurdish gunmen opened fire on a demonstration by Arabs and Turkmen in this northern Iraqi city Wednesday, police and hospital officials said. About 2,000 Turkmen and Sunni Arabs were protesting against a push by the city's Kurdish majority to incorporate the oil-rich center into an autonomous Kurdish province when violent clashes erupted.
If you're interested in the subject, information is easy to find.
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damn dyslexia ;-)
for a second I read the title as "Turds warn Kurks"
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I spent another 90 seconds and found this article too.
Kurdish militias should be disarmed in the oil-rich city of Kirkuk, Turkmen interim Governing Council member Shangul Shapuk said Monday after a spate of deadly ethnic clashes. "I have demanded the US-led coalition make Kirkuk a city without arms. The Turkmen are not authorised to carry weapons while the Kurds are heavily armed," Shapuk told AFP.
Last week, Kurdish fighters shot dead four people at an Arab and Turkmen demonstration protesting a Kurdish campaign to incorporate Kirkuk into Iraqi Kurdistan. Two Kurds and an Arab were killed in retaliatory violence that prompted the US army occupying Iraq to slap a night curfew on the restive city. ... "We are with the Kurds the moment they stop meddling in Turkmen affairs, but if they keep demanding more autonomy for Kurdistan, we are going to ask for an Iraqi Turkmenistan," she said.
Turkmen make up less than five percent of Iraq's population and are wary of their Kurdish neighbours in northern Iraq. Thirteen Kurds and Turkmen died in the Kirkuk region last August during clashes over the sensitive issue of the oil-rich city's future.
From now on, .com, you can do your own research on this subject.
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I guess abuse/harassment is a very subjective thing, #5. Here's a link to an article written on 1/28/04 about how the Turks are harassing and ill-treating the Kurds in Kirkuk. Call me crazy, but I find the Kurds, our consistent allies in the Iraq War, more believable and more sympathetic a "downtrodden" group than the Turks, who went AWOL when we needed their help and who are known for their long standing aggression and brutality to Kurds. http://home.cogeco.ca/~kurdistan1/8-1-04-opinion-coalition-stop-harassing.html
"The coalition must stop harassing Kurds in Kirkuk" The coalition forces are pursuing a new policy in Kirkuk, they are taking sides in the ethnic conflict in Kirkuk by launching harassment campaigns, mainly against Kurdish citizens and Kurdish political parties, they are harassing the Kurdish citizens who were the victims of ethnic cleansing and Arabization in Kirkuk, by trying to evict them from their temporary shelters in the buildings belonging to the security forces of toppled Saddam regime without offering them any alternative accommodation, mistreating the women and children accompanied by very aggressive and abusive Turkmen police forces instead of lending them a hand of help to live a decent dignified life, they are treating the very victims of Saddam Hussein as if they were criminals or terrorists, they are listening to the Arab settlers which provide the main bulk of terrorists who kill coalition forces and Iraqi civilians, as well as the pro-Turkey Turkmen Front which operate in liason with infiltrating Turkish intelligence agents in Kirkuk to stir instability and ethnic conflict in Kirkuk...All Turkish intelligence officers (MIT) disguised as military observers, who are inciting hatred and violence against Kurds in Kirkuk, must be expelled from Kirkuk. Turkish presence in any form is not welcome and is a blatant interference in the internal Iraqi affairs...Iraq has been freed from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi society and culture, however, is capable of producing more dictators, therefore the Kurds need a system where such a possibility is remote, and without the right of self-determination in Iraq and the establishment of a federal Kurdistan in partnership to the rest of Arab Iraq, there will always be a possibility that a new Iraqi repressive regime will be established, especially if we consider the region we are living in, where most our neighbors are repressive, chauvinistic and authoritarian regimes hostile to Kurdish rights.
Also, according to a June 24, 2004 article via Reuters, it looks like the Kurdish Iraqi leader, Mr. Talabani, is trying to be nice to the Turk minority, unlike what's has been happening all these years in Turkey with the Kurdish minority. http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=news&Story_ID=062411 âKirkuk is a city of brotherhood where Kurds, Arabs and Turkmen live together...We defend Turkmenâs rights and are working for this,â Mr Talabani yesterday said after talks with the Foreign Minister, Mr Abdullah Gul. His remarks were carried by Turkeyâs state-run Anatolian news agency. âWe want to reach an agreement so that this city can become a symbol of Iraqi unity,â he said. Mr Talabani heads the patriotic union of Kurdistan, one of Iraqâs two main Kurdish factions.
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Mike - both links effectively about the same incident. Deep stuff, Mike. I have researched the subject - rather extensively, you snotty asshole. You think this twaddle proves your point? Nah, it doesn't. There's no pogrom in progress - but there is an understandable desire not to be screwed yet again.
I am in favor of the Kurds getting a break this time. For over 500 years they've been repeatedly screwed by the "powers that be" at each point in history. Iraq is a confabualtion of the Skyes-Picot 10 martini lunch. Preserving it means zip to me. Giving the one population which will take freedom and a secular democracy and run with it makes real sense. Making them wait on the Arabs is, well, another of those historical slams they've suffered.
You can make any case you like about Turkey (FUCK Turkey), and Iraq, and the Turkmen and the Sunnis in the north - but I'll side with the Kurds unless they actually do start some sort of systematic violence (ala the Arabs). They are the only group ready to grasp the challenge. FOAD / HAND, Mike.
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Love the closing FOAD/HAND, Dotcom! ROFL...!
For my money, the Kurds have behaved themselves admirably since day one and deserve whatever they ask for!
Even with the gassing of their people by Saddam, they took Bush 41 at his word and began running their own independent state from 1991 on ('course enforcement of the no-fly zones made this possible).
The Turks can suck the Kurds' left nut as one RBer put it!
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.com, thanks for the map reminder. Sure is a big buttload of Turkey in the "Kurdish region", eh?
Mike -- I don't doubt that there are a lot of hard feelings on both sides in Kirkuk. Saddam had a policy of moving the Kurds out and moving others in, and now the Kurds want back what was theirs. The ethnic Turks in Iraq are upset, but they're also in major-league sympathy with their lost cousins to the north, and that makes them dangerous.
I'd like nothing better than to see all parties settle down and live together. Failing that, I agree with .com -- the Kurds have earned our respect and support. The Turks tried to cross us and got double-crossed by the French (heh-he-heh-heh-heh!), and I'm not very sympathetic to their demands. And if they think they can order folks around in northern Iraq, they'll learn better.
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:-)
It's time. Reading what the Kurds have suffered through is a real eye-opener. I long ago began to understand they are among the most egregiously abused groups in history - and they could certainly claim revenge on certain entities, Saddam, Britain, France, Iran, Syria, and Turkey among them. I even like the idea of whacking off the top 20% of Syria and making it part of Kurdistan so they have a nice Med view.
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Mike - any wonder why commenters question the ethics of your editing, given your additional snotty comments? yes, Google is available to all. PD - I concur. Turkey fucked us big-time, hoping for the embrace of the EU...well, they got the cold shoulder from the French (LOL) and now want to dictate terms? FOAD indeed. The Kurds have established a model working society in No. Iraq. Everyone else in Iraq and Ankara should be on their fucking knees apologizing for not meeting the same standards
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Here's another, much more expansive, map showing concentrations of Kurds. The Perry-Castañeda Library Collection is truly a treasure.
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Re: #9 (.com): You think this twaddle proves your point? Nah, it doesn't. There's no pogrom in progress
Here's what I said in #3
There are a lot of Turkmen in Kirkuk. They are threatened by the Kurds.
I'm sorry those two statements upset you so much, .com. Get a grip.
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I'll try to reword my statements so they don't offend anyone.
Many Turkmen live in Kirkuk. Many of them feel threatened by the Kurds.
Is that OK?
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fair enough - evidence? anecdotes?
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fair enough - evidence? anecdotes?
You and I do love to argue, Frank G, but I won't bite this evening. I'm going to see the movie Dodge Ball, to psych myself up for the flame-wars tomorrow.
Mellow Mike
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Spot, we are supporting Turkey's bid to join the EU so that it will be easier for Turkish workers to migrate to Germany.
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I won't argue - I LOVED Dodgeball - laughed so hard I almost choked, especially the Lance Armstrong cameo - enjoy!
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Ah, Mike, how disingenuous of you. BTW, who do you think you are? Some sort of RB demi-god? You posted an assertion. I asked for supporting links. You post one. Then another 17 min later - before I've seen any of it - and then tell me to do my own research on the topic from now on?
And now you pretend that it must've been something else? You really are a disingenuous arrogant shit. Get fucked, Mike. Oh, wait, make that get fucked, please, Mike. Is that OK?
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Get fucked, Mike. Oh, wait, make that get fucked, please, Mike.
Will do, .com.
While I'm enjoying myself, you can read up on the Turkmen in Kurdistan, and tomorrow you can ask me questions to supplement your new knowledge, if you want.
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Lol! Naw, I'll pass. Your arrogance exceeds all sensibile bounds already. Meanwhile, you can continue to pretend you're a substantial authority.
Foreign energy firms intend to significantly increase their investment in Sudanâs oil sector. Industry sources said the Greater Nile Petroleum Operating Co. plans to spend $700 million to increase oil production in Sudan. They said Greater Nile intends to spend $200 million of that sum on exploration and development. The rest of the sum will be spent on production. The funds will be invested during 2005, the sources said. Greater Nile currently produces 200,000 barrels per day in central Sudan and plans to increase the figure to 500,000 barrels per day, Middle East Newsline reported. Greater Nile is dominated by China National Petroleum Corp, with a 40 percent stake. Malaysiaâs Petronas has a 30 percent interest and Indiaâs state-owned Oil and Natural Gas Corp. holds a 25 percent stake.
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What is China doing there? This is a US territory and the Darfur crisis is our way to allow US companies to set foot in this area!
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China sure has its fingers in a lot of different pies. Let's see, nuclear technology to North Korea and Iran, mucking about in the Spratleys, damming the Mekong and now a little adventure in Sudan. Isn't it about time they got their fingers burned?
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they have a comeuppance due. Whether unrest at home, SARS and Avian Flu, Banking collapse, buncha CBG's off their coast flying big FU flags in exercises with Taiwan, Hong Kong Democracy protests, I think they're stretched thin
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China sure has its fingers in a lot of different pies. Let's see, nuclear technology to North Korea and Iran, mucking about in the Spratleys, damming the Mekong and now a little adventure in Sudan.
You left out:
a) Having operating concessions for both ends of the Panama Canal,
b) maintaining 'sattelite facilities' in Brazil,
c) operating 'fishing boats' off the coasts of Africa,
The 26-foot-high concrete and razor wire barrier down the hill from Najeh Abu Mukh's house cuts him off from relatives and the West Bank. But the Arab Israeli gas-station worker said he doesn't mind, because the controversial Israeli barrier has done something years of failed peace talks have not: It has taken the bloody Israeli-Palestinian conflict away from his home. Like many Arab Israeli citizens who live in northern Israel along the security barrier erected earlier this year, Abu Mukh agrees with the Israeli government that it's beneficial. The Israeli military claims the barrier has cut suicide attacks coming from the now-enclosed northern West Bank by 90 percent. Abu Mukh questioned the International Court of Justice ruling Friday that condemned it as illegal and inhumane. "I'm wondering if the judges ever have been here or lived here and understand the real reason for its construction," the 30-year-old asked, relaxing on his front porch with a cup of sweet Arabic coffee. "If not, they should listen and not judge."
Arab Israelis don't readily share this sentiment with outsiders. They fear getting killed appearing disloyal to their Palestinian brethren, who live across the line separating Israel from Palestinian territory and hate the structure as much as they despise the government that built it, Arab Israeli journalist Hassan Mawsi explains. The route the Israeli Defense Ministry selected for the barrier, which places large chunks of Palestinian land on the Israeli side, adds to Palestinian anger. A row of homes that was once in Palestinian Baqa al Sharghiya, or Baqa East, in now in Baqa al Gharbiya, or Baqa West. "Eight of our houses are now cut off from our village and two of them were destroyed so this thing could be built," said Palestinian Riyadh Hussein, 28, gesturing at the security barrier, which he now must walk around to take his three children to nursery school. But Arab Israelis, like their Jewish counterparts, wanted relief from the suicide bombings and gun attacks that have killed 980 Israeli citizens during the nearly four-year Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Five of 21 people killed by a suicide bomber at an Arab- and Jewish-owned restaurant last October in Haifa, for example, were Arab Israeli.
Is it something about living in Israel proper that puts some sense into the heads of Arabs?
Their dilemma was compounded because attackers often crossed into Israel through Arab hamlets such as Baqa al Gharbiya, blending in with hundreds of undocumented workers and clashing with the heavily armed Israeli border guards who tried to ferret them out. A particularly frightening experience - Abu Mukh and his mother, Hanifa, 71, recounted - occurred in March 2002, when police stopped a suicide attacker's vehicle at a checkpoint in their town. An Israeli policeman and the two Palestinian gunmen in the car were killed in an ensuing shootout. "All the time Israeli border guards would come here to search for Palestinians who had come illegally," the younger Abu Mukh recalled. "That meant we, too, were repeatedly subjected to identity card checks and questions. I couldn't even go to the store at night without being checked." There was no such tension evident Friday afternoon in his sleepy neighborhood, where the only sound came from bees and a lone Israeli Humvee that drove along the barrier road.
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ok. ima leave this up you guys. i am been seeing all over blogosphere tonite that hillary clinton is defend the wall today and is blame the u.n. for whole mess. the left are piss with her and i am hear that there no link, but it on cnn. they are piss with her and think she is up in shenanigans and are pissed. ima have my own view on all this ifn it true but was trying find link but cant find any. is anyone have a link anywhere for this or hear about it?
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The route the Israeli Defense Ministry selected for the barrier, which places large chunks of Palestinian land on the Israeli side, adds to Palestinian anger.
What on earth doesn't 'add(s) to Palestinian anger'?
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FNC has been running a crawl - tho no story - all morning that the Paleos are demanding that the UN 'enforce' the non-binding ruling. The Paleo PM (can't remember his name) is making threatening noises suggesting that the Paleos may have to tear down the wall themselves.
Go for it, guys. INVADE Israel and see how much fun you have.
PS - you guys think they're insane NOW? Wait till Israel gets the anti-rocket defenses up (hint: laser towers, with weapons that have already been successfully tested against Katyushas.) and they can't even do that anymore. Seething would be considered a step up.
Mike
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It's going to be interesting to see if the Jewish vote in New York can see through this smoke screen of hers. She will have to defend her seat before 2008 and I wonder how she will do?
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Interesting while stating that not supporting Pals can get an Israeli Arab killed, the story is quick to give his name and occupation and virtual location away.
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Israel plans to file a formal complaint with the International Red Thingy Cross regarding smuggling of forbidden items to terrorists in its shipments. A shipment of clothing brought to the Ayalon Prison in a Red Thingy Cross truck this week was found to contain a cellular telephone, intended for one of the terrorists held in the facility. The telephone was found in the sole of a sneaker. Red Thingy Cross officials explain that their organization is only the courier, and is not responsible for materials to be delivered prior to its reception at the Red Thingy Cross. Israeli officials report that this is the second time a Red Thingy Cross shipment was found to contain prohibited items intended for prisoners.
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Time to blow up some red cross trucks.....make 'em think twice about providing any assistance to the filthy muslims.
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If the Red Cross is arguing that they are only a courier, I'm sure they will not mind having responsible adults stop their ambulances and deliveries to check for contraband.
A previously unheard of militant group had threatened to kill al-Qaeda-linked Jordanian operative Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi, the second outfit to do so in three days, Al-Jazeera satellite television said. Al-Jazeera broadcast a video showing seven masked men, carrying guns, as one of them read a statement. Calling itself "Seif Allah" (the Double-Edged Sword of God), the group threatened to kill Zarqawi and accused him of "treachery and allegiance to the (deposed) regime of Saddam Hussein". It said it would "pursue Zarqawi and his supporters everywhere they go". On Tuesday, a group calling itself the "Salvation Movement" vowed to execute Zarqawi unless he and his henchmen left Iraq immediately, according to a statement read out on the Al-Arabiya satellite news channel.
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If the US with all its mighty force can not get him, how do you think a group of thugs will?
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See the Thulfiqar Army, Anon -- did you say that never could the US make Tater give? Actually, we only had to pay off those who already bristled under his Islamist yoke >=3
Re: Seif Allah -- GO YOU! Well, until you turn against the US, in which case we'll have to kill you, but until then, TAKE ZARQAWI'S HEAD!
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I dunno if the "group of thugs" can get him, but I like the idea of them kaing Zarqawi nervous and jumpy.
Someone here a few days back pointed out that in a way, this isn't such a good thing -- last thing Iraq needs right now is a bunch of new vigilante groups running around. I tend to agree -- after Zarqawi gets bagged.
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What would be really encouraging is for Iraqis dressed in government uniforms, without masks, to announce and carry out aggressive operations against Zarqawi, criminal gangs, and Ba'athists (or whatever the hell they're called now that they don't even have a bogus ideology to wrap around their tribally organized avarice and power lust). There's some video I'm looking forward to ....
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If the US with all its mighty force can not get him, how do you think a group of thugs will?
Iraq is a big place, and even Saddam wasn't found in a day. What's more, a group of thugs can blend right in with the population, while uniformed U.S service personnel stick out like a sore thumb.
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Hell, we ain't never found D. B. Cooper, neither. Proves nothing.
What a "gang of thugs" can do is use nastier methods of getting to Zarqawi... methods that would make reporters and Democrats swoon.
(Not that it takes much to make them swoon.)
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#10--- There was group named Thul Fiqar al-Batar which translates into "the double-edged sword" carried by Grand Imam Ali. This group rose up to oppose Sadr.
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Let me liberate you from your ignorance.
1. After WW2, the Allies implemented a "De-Nazification" plan for Occupied Germany, because Nazis were the main enemy.
2. After GW2, the Bushies implemented a "De-Baathization" plan for Occupied Germany, because the Bushies refuse to recognize Islamofascism as an enemy ideology.
3. Bush is a pathological anti-Secular, who still pays consulting fees to terrorist front groups like the ISNA and CAIR.
4. By effectively outlawing Secularism in Iraq, the Bushies delivered a window of opportunity to Islamofascists of both the al-Qaeda and Bisaji (Shiite) varieties, creating anti-American terror bases in both Fallujah and Najaf.
5. The Bushies have allowed as many as 10,000 Iranian animals to make pilgrimages to Iraq, each day, even as Iran's tyrants were inciting violence against America. (Numerous Iranians have been arrested as terror suspects in De-Secularized-Bush Iraq.
6. Because of the Bushies enabling of cultural-unification of the Iran terror state and Shiite Iraq, the elections next year will be directed by Iran, who will use its captive Shiite majority to enable Iranian occupation of Iraq. At that point, Iran will begin exterminating Iraqi minorities, and will - thanks to Bush's ideological stupidity - possess over 60% of all Middle East oil.
7. Bush indulgence of the Islamofascist enemy, will make America the laughing stock of the world.
If you care about American security, then you will work for the nuclear annihilation of Fallujah and Najaf, to be followed by the forced Secularization of Iraq. You will also work for the over-throw of the Iranian, Saud and Paki tyrannies, that are either protected or subsidized or served by the Bush family clowns.
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Got proof of any of those wild accusations about President Bush, DBT?
We'll wait.
***crickets***
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cut out them damn crickets! I can't hear DBT's response!
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07/10/2004 15:42 Comments ||
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If you care about American security, then you will work for the nuclear annihilation of Fallujah and Najaf, to be followed by the forced Secularization of Iraq.
Dog Bites Trolls, how many supporters do you have for your proposal? If you have no supporters at all anywhere, then maybe you ought to rethink your position.
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If you care about American security, then you will work for the nuclear annihilation of Fallujah and Najaf,..
I'd settle for a massive JDAM attack on insurgent nests in the Fallujah area. Nothing that has happened there so far rises to the point of a nuclear response, and I can't see a scenario that would.
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DBT,
Let me ask you a question: Have you ever worked with or on nuclear weapons?
I have.BTW, I'm asking you now, don't tell us 'you know' and quote one of the many excellent and reliable books or websites available. Anyone can do that.
It's been my experience that those who have never been up close and personal with the damned things tend to be the ones who suggest their use first. And if your response is, "well, it was simply rhetorical', that's even worse, because you either know what they're capable of and what their use represents then said it anyways, or you hadn't the faintest clue...and then said it anyways.
Mike
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