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I was going to write another reminder that the articles are getting pretty long. Instead, I've added the mythical Page 71, which is actually the Browse page. Editors can now cut long articles down to just the first paragraph or two and put the rest on Page 71. Clicking will bring the entire article up. I know Dan's got a couple hefty ones in the tank right now...

Give me a holler when something doesn't work. Editors, we should be able to just cut and past using the new button on the edit page.
Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2004 3:12:48 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred, clicking on the latest comments on the right gives a broken link
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Fixed it. Anything else break?
Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2004 15:48 Comments || Top||

#3  nope - works now!
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 15:50 Comments || Top||

#4  is that why the comments got duplicated and triplicated? See AP's
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't think so. I hope it's just because his mouse caught the hiccups...
Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Fred I got an ugly error a while ago that ended up with a double post, it's not doing it now so maybe you fixed it. Running Mozilla Firebird on Linux do heheh it's not a IE problem :p
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 18:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Is photography allowed near Page 71?
Posted by: Shipman || 07/11/2004 19:09 Comments || Top||

#8  Mind the dawgs...
Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2004 20:47 Comments || Top||

#9  Oh, I get it! Page 71! Sure, page 71. Fred says its the "Browser" page. But 71? What and the hell is this? Is it that 7 + 1 = 8? Actually, now that I think about it. I am clueless.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/11/2004 21:16 Comments || Top||

#10  hmmm I did an internship performing anal probes on alien redneck crash victims at Area 71....
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 21:19 Comments || Top||

#11  Frank, I wish to ask that you never place the words anal and redneck in the same sentence again. Thank yee.

Besides, everyone knows there is no such thing as an alien redneck.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/11/2004 21:25 Comments || Top||

#12  never seen Repo Man, huh?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 21:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Frank...no. Is that a movie or a television show?
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/11/2004 21:51 Comments || Top||

#14  movie...
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 22:20 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Remembering the USS Cole & those which lost their lives.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 21:15 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Saudis facing return of radicals
An increasing number of Saudis who crossed the border into Iraq to fight the U.S.-led military occupation are returning home to plot attacks against the Saudi government and Western targets in the desert kingdom, according to Western counterterrorism officials and Saudis with ties to militant groups. The Iraq veterans are serving as fresh recruits for an underground network in Saudi Arabia that, until recently, was led by an older generation of fighters that had trained in Afghanistan and was closely connected to al Qaeda and its founder, Saudi native Osama bin Laden. Many of those leaders have been killed or captured in recent months by Saudi security forces.

Today, the proclaimed new chief of the primary militant group in the kingdom is Saleh Awfi, 33, a Saudi who journeyed north last year to join Ansar al-Islam, an Islamic radical group in Iraq that the U.S. government has branded as a terrorist organization. Awfi stayed for a few months, barely surviving U.S. aerial bombardment, before deciding to return and take up arms in his home country, according to a former Saudi radical who met with Awfi last year. Other Saudis are returning after spending time in newly established training camps across the Red Sea in remote parts of Sudan where central government influence is weak, said a European intelligence official whose government is advising Saudi officials on their domestic terrorist threat.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/11/2004 4:26:43 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wow...page 71...nifty. Thanx Fred!
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/11/2004 19:28 Comments || Top||


Martyrs Prefer Porsches Over Lexus Two to One
EFL
The gunman drove a Lexus. Young and well-educated, Sami al-Mutairi parked his royal blue luxury sedan behind a roadside sand berm and waited. He knew that carloads of American troops traveled the dusty road. Prosecutors say he cradled an AK-47 assault rifle in his hands. Al-Mutairi, 25, was from a large middle-class family, part of a major tribe in this gilded Persian Gulf state. He had a good government job as a social worker, and in college he had been known as an outspoken member of the liberal students group on the manicured campus of Kuwait University. But shortly after he graduated in June 2001, something changed. He became more stridently religious and began echoing the ideology of another wealthy Arab: Osama bin Laden. In time, al-Mutairi’s once-vocal resentment of restrictive Arab culture transformed into a zealous rejection of the West’s policies toward Muslims. In October 2001, he set off for Afghanistan but was turned back by Iranian authorities and returned home, fuming.

As al-Mutairi waited on the sun-soaked morning of Jan. 21, 2003, a silver SUV approached. He gripped his rifle and aimed. The slight man with the thick beard opened fire, prosecutors say, killing a U.S. Army contractor in the passenger seat and seriously wounding another American worker beside him. The gunman--now in a Kuwaiti prison serving a life sentence for the shooting, though he maintains he is innocent--had become the third middle-class young man from this oil-rich U.S. ally to pick up a gun against Americans in just four months.

It may be possible to understand how extremism brews in a squalid Palestinian refugee camp, but what accounts for the scions of middle-class Kuwaiti families who are choosing violence and martyrdom over a future in a nation with free education, abundant oil wealth and a four-hour workday? "They are the five-star terrorists," said Sami al-Faraj, an independent Kuwaiti defense analyst. "What makes someone who lives in a country of luxury choose to do that?" In October 2002, two Kuwaiti men who had fought in Afghanistan opened fire on Marines training on an island, killing one U.S. serviceman and wounding another. Investigators said the gunmen, Anas al-Kandari and Jassem al-Hajiri, who died in a shootout with Marines, had returned to Kuwait intending to establish a cell of Al Qaeda that could attack U.S.- and foreign-linked targets here. The gunmen--one of whom had recently bought a Porsche--left a will, portraying their attack against the Marines as retribution for the suffering of Palestinians.
Posted by: Zpaz || 07/11/2004 10:45:13 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Osama kin lies about ties - in-law
By Maki Becker, NY Daily News, 7-11-04
Osama Bin Laden’s ex-sister-in-law thinks members of his family still secretly support the fugitive terror boss.
Comes as a surprise, doesn't it? Who'da possibly thunkit?
Carmen Binladin, who along with her ex-husband, Yeslam, is coming out with an English edition of a tell-all book about her troubled marriage to Osama’s half-brotherand her few encounters with the terror mastermind himself. In an interview she gave to The Associated Press, Binladin - who is half-Swiss, half-Iranian - suggests the Bin Ladens have not been forthcoming about their relations to the man behind the Sept. 11 attacks. "From what I have seen and what I have read, I cannot believe that they have cut off Osama completely," Binladin said. She said some of Bin Laden’s sons still work for the family’s construction company. The interview was published a day after NBC released a video clip of Yeslam Binladin on "Dateline NBC" in which he refused to say whether he would turn his infamous half-brother in to the authorities.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 4:47:38 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If they did cut him off completely they'd be somewhat unique among the wealthy Saudis wouldn't they.
Posted by: Yank || 07/11/2004 10:39 Comments || Top||

#2  And if you can't trust a bin Laden's word, who can you trust?
Posted by: ed || 07/11/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||


Bin Laden's sister-in-law gives rare glimpse of him, Saudi life
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 04:11 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Yemen kills cleric's followers, offers reward
Yemeni army forces have killed 25 supporters of an anti-US preacher in battles within the past two days as government offered a $75,500 reward for the capture of the fugitive religious leader, a state-run newspaper reported on Saturday.
They keep describing him as an anti-US preacher. He doesn't sound like he's too hot for Yemen, either, at least not as it's presently constituted...
The defence ministry publication 26 September said 25 followers of the Shi'ite cleric Hussein Badruddin al-Houthi were killed and nearly 50 others injured in the latest attacks on their strongholds in the northern Saada province. An army soldier was killed and five others injured in the battles, the paper said quoting a local official in Saada, about 250km north of the capital Sanaa. The new fatalities bring to nearly 200 the death toll in the military offensive on strongholds of al-Houthi, launched on June 21. The government, meanwhile, offered 10 million rials ($75,500) for information leading to the capture of al-Houthi, the paper said, adding that authorities have sent letters to tribal chieftains in Saada asking them to support military and security forces in their hunt for the fugitive cleric. Yemeni authorities accuse the cleric of organising protests against the United States and Israel in mosques. Al-Houthi is also accused of leading an armed rebellion with foreign financial aid aiming at disturbing security and stability of the impoverished Arab country. The crackdown is the latest in efforts by the Yemeni government to fight militant groups. Yemen, a close US-ally in the war against terrorism, has rounded up hundreds of suspected followers of the terror al-Qaeda network. Yemeni officials, however, say that no links between al-Houthi and al-Qaeda has been found.
(What else is new ......Remember the Cole!)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 3:33:18 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Prince Saud Denies Prisoner Swap
"Nope. Nope. Never happened."
Foreign Minister Prince Saud Al-Faisal said the Kingdom would do its best to bring its nationals back from the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba but denied swapping Saudi inmates with Western prisoners in the Kingdom. "We would never swap our nationals... but we use all possible means to bring them back from Guantanamo or any other prison," Prince Saud told a news conference here yesterday. A total of 124 Saudis are among roughly 600 prisoners held during the US-led war in Afghanistan in late 2001 and incarcerated in extreme conditions at Guantanamo Bay.

Prince Saud was responding to a question about press reports claiming that the Kingdom swapped Western prisoners with Saudi inmates in the US prison in Cuba. Two Canadian newspapers claimed they had evidence that seven Western prisoners were freed by the Kingdom last year in exchange for five Saudi terror suspects from the American camp in Cuba. The New York Times had first reported last week, quoting unnamed officials, that the United States agreed to exchange five Saudi suspects for the Westerners, five Britons, a Belgian and a Canadian. Prince Saud declined to answer a question whether he had received assurances from the US administration about the release of Saudi prisoners from Guantanamo in the future. "I do not want to comment because I do not want to give false hope to the families of the inmates," he said.
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Posted by: tipper || 07/11/2004 12:05:28 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
'For her to be absolved from guilt, a raped woman must have shown good conduct'
Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the Muslim cleric currently on a controversial visit to Britain, believes that female rape victims should be punished if dressed "immodestly" when assaulted. The 78-year-old Egyptian-born scholar, allowed into the country despite his open support of Palestinian suicide bombers and his extreme views on homosexuality, says that women can be guilty of provoking a sexual attack if their dress or behaviour arouses a man.
And there ain't nobody as easily aroused as a Muslim man...
Dr al-Qaradawi's views on rape appear on a website called IslamOnline, which purports to give a modern interpretation of Islam. He is the website's chief scholar and leader of a group of Islamic academics who provide answers to questions posed by Muslims on moral issues. One question asked: "Are raped women punished in Islam?" A panel, headed by Mr al-Qaradawi, replied: "To be absolved from guilt, the raped woman must have shown some sort of good conduct . . . Islam addresses women to maintain their modesty, as not to open the door for evil. The Koran calls upon Muslim women in general to preserve their dignity and modesty, just to save themselves from any harassment. So for a rape victim to be absolved from guilt, she must not be the one that opens . . . her dignity for deflowering."
"So no titties! And no thighs, dammit! And get rid of those buttocks! And the ankles, too!

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2004 12:23:54 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'd like to take this asshole to a Hooters. He'd explode
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 12:40 Comments || Top||

#2  So, according to this logic, Private England (of the Prison Scandal) should not be held responsible for her actions since the prisioner was imodest (naked) and his litte wee-wee was right out there for her to see and point at.......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/11/2004 12:46 Comments || Top||

#3  "he is also one of the most open-minded Muslim clerics in the world..."

Well, that's certainly something to think about.
Posted by: Matt || 07/11/2004 13:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the Muslim cleric currently on a controversial visit to Britain, believes that female rape victims should be punished if dressed "immodestly" when assaulted...

Yet American feminists consider Republicans far more of a menace than this vile, repressive ideology.
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/11/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Won't some patriotic Brits rape the $h!t out this @$$hole? I do believe he is dressed immodestly and is just begging for it.
Posted by: ed || 07/11/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Some wit should publish a guide to homosexual rape of Imams, in English and Arabic. Using the same criteria that Imams are disrespectful and dress provocatively (dresses rather than pants, and those "f-me" turbans and beards), if someone homosexually rapes them, then the rapist is blameless, and the Imam should be stoned to death for "wanting it", etc.
In fact, a homosexual rapist should be able to kill an Imam for marrying a woman, which just *proves* that he wants to be homosexually raped, and other such logical extensions like those they use to justify the rape of women.
Perhaps a homosexual can redeem himself by raping enough sinful Imams so that he can make it into heaven.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/11/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#7  I'd like to take this asshole to a Hooters. He'd explode

Frank G---That is a RB classic! Gets me out of the Darfor funk....
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 17:38 Comments || Top||

#8  Frank G, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi would go ape shit crazy. You have never seen how these guys act when they come to the US? They Booze it up and go whoring. He would get thrown out of Hooters for not keeping his hands to himself.

Typical abuser, he blames the victim for his lack of self restraint and mental illness.

Get the rope, FlameBait's method of dealing with rapists. Get the Pickup (blacked out rear window no mirrors) and chain and see if they can keep up, FlameBait's method for dealing with wife beaters.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 17:56 Comments || Top||


We must be allowed to criticise Islam
In the time of Marcus Aurelius, Christianity was a growing force within the Roman Empire. His ministers asked him if the state should join the non-Christian majority in attacking the new religion, or seek to protect it. The Emperor's reply is found in his Meditations. The state's response to Christianity, he said, or to anything else, should be determined by one simple question: "What is the thing in itself? What does it do?"

Today, the Government faces a similar dilemma regarding Islam. In response, the Home Secretary announced plans last week to make vilification of Islam a crime. He insisted that his law to "ban incitement to religious hatred" was meant to defend every faith. However, only Muslims have asked for immunity. The legislation would "close a loophole", David Blunkett observed, because inciting hatred of people on racial grounds is illegal in the UK, but inciting hatred of them on the grounds of belief is not.

The problem is that a virulent hatred of Muslims can no more be racism than a virulent hatred of Marxists or Tories. Nobody is a member of a race by choice. Such groups are protected from attack because it is unfair to malign human beings for something they cannot help. However, nobody is a member of a community of belief except by choice, which is why those who have decided to enter or remain within one are never protected. Were such choices not open to the severest censure, we could no longer call our country a democracy.
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Posted by: tipper || 07/11/2004 11:47:32 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is damned terrifying. We're going to win abroad and come home to the same thing if we allow this to go on.
Posted by: The Doctor || 07/11/2004 12:43 Comments || Top||

#2  The crux of the matter to me.

"Abu?"

"Yes Lucky, you look wonderful today".

"Thanks Abu, but are you still beating your wife"?

"Oh no, no more, my good friend, she is dead by my own hands, my sweet, but I can assure you she died an honorable death."

"But thats barbarism Abu."

"Quiet Lucky, be carful what you say, be very careful, my pet, oh and what a nice tie, you are close to insulting me and all islam. That would be bad and there would be revenge. Vengenge is mine sayeth Abu. Would you like some tea and sweets?"

"Yes, yes I would, thank you, may I have another."
Posted by: Lucky || 07/11/2004 13:54 Comments || Top||

#3  The proposed law's an ass, indeed. I'm pretty confident this will be one of this government's knee-jerk proto-laws that is stifled by common sense before it even gets debated in Parliament. Even if anything so stupid were to be made law, it would be unworkable. What would happen when the first hate-speech 'martyrs' go on trial after complaints from touchy Muslims? There'd be uproar, that's what. The law would be revoked pdq.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/11/2004 14:36 Comments || Top||

#4  I suppose that comment goes for the nutso animal cruelty laws in another article today. Only that law's got time on its side ('suffering' has yet to be proven scientifically for lower creatures, so prosecutions for stamping on slugs are some way off - though the immediate effect on blood sports is likely to be highly controversial).
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/11/2004 14:53 Comments || Top||

#5  If there is one single religion in desperate need of criticism, it is Islam. That its proponents seek to make it beyond reproach would be laughable if they weren't actually serious. The fact that they are serious shows how they are fanatics and therefore not to be trusted.

Britain is faced with committing slow suicide over this sort of legalistic drivel. I fear to say that Britain will need a 9-11 or two of their own before they wake up (if it isn't too late by then).
Posted by: Zenster || 07/12/2004 0:01 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Australia stands by Iraq war (bravo!)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 04:39 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  God bless the Aussies!

At least they have the stones to stand behind their actions.
Posted by: RJB in JC MO || 07/11/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Heeeellloooo Antiwar?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#3  The Aussies look just a little ways to their Indonesian neighbors to the north and see the threat of being isolated, just like WW2. At least they see the enemy and not the insides of the alimentary canal, like many countries we know.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 17:43 Comments || Top||


Europe
Five men in France injured making internet-recipe bomb
Five young Frenchmen were injured, two of them seriously, when a bomb they were making following instructions from the Internet exploded today. One of the group suffered serious injuries to his eyes, while another lost an arm, judicial officials and firefighters said. The men were 25 and 30 years old. The full circumstances of the incident in the town of Saint-Georges-de-Reneins, north of Lyon, were not immediately known.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 5:34:10 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sounds like the makings of a band of Mullahs!
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 17:46 Comments || Top||

#2  I posted this at No Parasan!

Doesn't Lyon have a mosque, a big one?
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 07/11/2004 17:51 Comments || Top||

#3  yep!
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 17:55 Comments || Top||

#4  What no info on them being "north africans?" My bet is they are.

People who play with or do stupid things with explosives do learn the hard way.

Now where is that pound of black powder?
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 18:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Anyone got a spare sympathy meter? Mine seems to be going backwards...
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/11/2004 18:06 Comments || Top||

#6  Could be anything for a recipe, but I can just see these guys making "soup" (nitroglycerin) and having a thermal rumaway in their reactor.

They could also be making black power, which is subject to static electricity or heat ignition, especially in the grinding together of ingredients.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||

#7  But black powder would just burn mostly unless the gases had no way to escape, one guy lost an arm. I am thinking it was more nasty than black powder which is poor for making a real modern explosive. It's fine for fireworks and pushing projectiles ( but sucks to clean up after.) Put some on the ground and light it. It don't go boom it just burns and smokes. Also you grind up the parts not the powder once it's all mixed together as I recall. I Shoot black powder so I have dealt with it.

Look at some of these "internet" recipies and they are down right scarry. No way you would want to expose yourself to the stuff and methods they are using. There are easier and safer ways to make stuff go boom.

Bombers are cowards anyway. Screw um as a waste of human skin.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 18:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Damn, they just missed out on the Darwin award.
Is possible for a Muslim to awarded both the Darwin honorarium AND the 72 virgins?
Posted by: GK || 07/11/2004 19:35 Comments || Top||

#9  I believe Darwin would be considered un-islamic, so no awards for this bunch.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/11/2004 19:40 Comments || Top||

#10  Aaaah! I see they found the Double Secret Explosives recipe!
Posted by: Fred || 07/11/2004 21:05 Comments || Top||

#11  It the France of Chirac about to feel the backlash effects of appeasement for his policies of blocking every major 'real' Allied attempt to stop the jihadic terrorist enemy in Iraq, and elsewhere throughout the world?

Except The Ivory Coast due to Franco-Coffee concerns.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 21:06 Comments || Top||

#12  Typos..watching TV :) It should have read 'Is' the... bla, bla... bla..Chirac..bla,,bla bla
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 21:08 Comments || Top||

#13  Those chumps should know better than to use a recipe posted by Debka!
Posted by: Zenster || 07/11/2004 21:15 Comments || Top||

#14  HERE IS THE LINK THEY USED: (be sure to hit the refresh button to see another recipe)

http://www.righto.com/anarchy/random.html
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/11/2004 22:07 Comments || Top||

#15  Anonymoose: I especially liked the title A terrorist friend.
Posted by: Charles || 07/11/2004 22:12 Comments || Top||

#16  Jeeze Louise on Crackers!!!!!! There are some damn scary recipes in here that make nitroglycerine look tame! And get a bunch of doping anarchistics doing the recipes is a recipe for disaster......could be a debka site, all right!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/12/2004 0:03 Comments || Top||

#17  You will really like this then How To Build An Atom Bomb

And one of my favorites How to Build an H-Bomb
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/12/2004 3:16 Comments || Top||


Belgium Police Arrest Al Qaeda Members
Police in Belgium have arrested two suspected Sudanese members of Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda network at the main Brussels airport. They are reported to have flown in from Athens, and were travelling on forged passports. Police found photos of militants involved in suicide operations in the men's luggage and a mobile phone number referring to bin Laden. Earlier, the Netherlands said it was increasing security at key locations after getting information that radical Islamists might be planning terror attacks. Belgium seized 15 suspected Islamists last month as part of pan-European raids connected with the Madrid train bombings in March.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 4:36:40 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


German Police Release Bombing Suspect
German authorities said Saturday that they released a suspect in a nail bombing last month in a Cologne street that injured 22 people, citing a lack of evidence to connect him to the crime. The man, a 23-year-old German who once lived in Cologne, was arrested Friday morning in western Germany on a tip. The man's alibi put him away from the scene of the crime, and there is nothing now to link him to the scene, police spokesman Wolfgang Beus said Saturday.

Police have said the bomb -- a gas canister filled with gunpowder and nails -- was likely in a backpack strapped to a bicycle left in front of the two buildings in a Turkish immigrant neighborhood. Investigators say the crudely build bomb was made by an amateur with a remote control device used for toys. Authorities last month released photos from a video surveillance camera of a man pushing the bicycle toward the scene shortly before the blast. Police said Friday that the suspected appeared to be the man in the video, but Beus said that was not certain. Investigators have yet to establish a motive for the June 9 attack.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 4:34:49 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Four Finnish Peacekeepers Wounded in Kosovo
Four Finnish soldiers from the NATO-led peacekeeping force in Kosovo have been wounded in a shooting incident. The incident occurred near the town of Lipljan, south of the capital of Pristina, in an area where ethnic Albanians rioted against Kosovo Serbs last March. Six people were reportedly taken into custody in connection with the shooting.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 12:11:32 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Anti-Semitic attack on mother and baby in France
A young woman and her baby have been attacked in a suburban train near Paris by unidentified men who drew swastikas on the mother's stomach. Police today said it was an anti-Semitic assault. The six attackers who were armed with knives clipped the 23-year-old woman's hair, and cut her tee-shirt and trousers before drawing three swastikas on her body. The men of North African origin also overturned the pram holding her baby, aged 13 months. They then took the mother's backpack, which contained her identity papers, a bank card and cash. Police said the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish because she was living in Paris' posh 16th district. "Only Jews live in the 16th district," one of the men told her. Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin "firmly condemned" the attack and asked police to track down the attackers within the shortest possible time. The attack was "all the more serious because it was marked by racism and anti-Semitism", he said.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 12:08:09 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The men of North African origin"

Hmm. Now which people come from North Africa again? I keep forgetting.
Posted by: Brutus || 07/11/2004 1:32 Comments || Top||

#2  I have no hope the French will do anything other than be "outraged." They already live in fear of "north africans."

Their use of swastikas shows the NAZI relationship to Islamofascists. The French peoples complicity in NAZI murder is historical fact.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 1:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Savages!! Sounds more like neo-Nazis (France's growing neo-Vichy-movement)

Islamic radicals can not be ruled out either. Attacking A Jewish mother with a baby or young child indicates they knew their intended victim(s) This form of cowardly assault is about as low as these thugs can sink to.

Both hate groups/gangs share many of the same self inflicted hatreds toward various people, but hate each other as well thus a unified neo-Vichy & Islamists working as one is somewhat unlikely.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 2:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Mark, they're described as "men of North African origin" - why do you think it's anything other than the common Muslim/Jewish thing? The swastika's the universal symbol of Jew-hatred, used by all sorts of scum nowadays.

I think the timning of this outrage could be used to strengthen Chirac's hand, if he's really intent on tackling on religious and race hatred. It's possible. It's past time that the French did some serious navel-gazing.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/11/2004 3:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Mark,
Police said the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish so they clearly didn't know their victim well, if at all. This attack was less targeted at an individual than sheer, bone deep meanness.

And, Neo-nazis and Arab hate groups have historically worked together -- much Muslim antisemitic rhetoric comes straight from the old Nazi handbooks, and I've read about a trend within skinhead groups to convert to Islam. For that matter, Arafat's favorite uncle (the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem) was rather a pet of Hitler's, and his voice in the Middle East during the war. So, the likelihood of the neo-Vichy working with Islamists is nearer the probability level of Saddam Hussein supporting al Qaeda.
Posted by: trailing wife || 07/11/2004 4:25 Comments || Top||

#6  I wonder if Europeans and Middle Eastern muslims ask themselves why they do not hear of Jews being attacked by muslims (of any origin) in the US.
Posted by: Anonymous4617 || 07/11/2004 5:04 Comments || Top||

#7  Trailing wife, You are correct, in fact I was well awar of the Mufti. He was on the run from the Brits during the war and even lived in Berlin as a quest of Himmler & Hilter, plus he assisted in overseeing the formation & some of the training of the Bosnian Muslim SS Hanjar Division in 1943 in Nazi controlled Yugoslavia.

The Grand Mufti also activly participated in assisting German SS military instuctors in putting down a rebellion of Bosnian Muslims volenteeres in their Vichy France training camp in 1943.

Mr. Mufti, Muhammed Amin al-Husseini [many spelling variations] was born in 1893 (or 1895), the son of the Mufti of Jerusalem and member of an esteemed, aristocratic family. The Husseinis were one of the richest and most powerful of all the rivalling clans in the Ottoman province known as the Judaean part of Palestine.

With the collapse of Nazi Germany in may of 1945, the Mufti moved to Egypt where he was received as a national hero. After the war al-Husseini was indicted by Yugoslavia for war crimes, but escaped prosecution. The Mufti was never tried because the Allies were afraid of the storm in the Arab world if the hero of Arab nationalism was treated as a war criminal.

This Mufti butcher is the same one who demanded the Arabs armies attack the brand new Jewish state of Israel in 1948 screaming 'Throw them into the seas! Kill them all!

Arafat has often stated he views Amin al-Husseini as his mentor and hero.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 5:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Check out these war era photos within the link.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 5:14 Comments || Top||

#9  Another VERY detailed web-site concerning the Bosnian Muslim SS in Yugoslavia.

Today's ongoing problems in Yugoslav Balkan region stem from this very dark & evil period.

There were no good guys.

This is a subject the Islamic world will not discuss.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 5:19 Comments || Top||

#10 
I assume this is a hoax. This French woman reminds me of Tawna Brawley, that New York Black girl who several years ago accused an imaginary group of racist policemen of carving KKK on her stomach (or something like that).
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/11/2004 9:43 Comments || Top||

#11  Mike, shut up--this really happened!
Where have you been since 9/11????
Anti-Semitic attacks in France have soared the last few years, so much so that French Jews are immigrating to Israel in record numbers!
Muslim males have burned the Israeli embassy in Paris to the ground in 2002, burned down a synagogue in Marseilles, defaced graves with swaztikas, beat Jews in the streets and in stores, ad nauseum.
Posted by: Jen || 07/11/2004 10:30 Comments || Top||

#12  MS - Duh! It was on a train. Guess nobody else saw it? Another strike....
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 10:40 Comments || Top||

#13 
Tawna Brawley was very late returning home for a curfew and didn't have an acceptable story to tell her father to explain her tardiness. So she concocted a story that she was kidnapped and tortured by a group of racist policemen. To prove her story, she carved the letters KKK on her stomach (or something like that).

I suspect this French woman was in some similar situation and so concocted a similar story with similar proof carved on her stomach.

Read the posting again. Her story is preposterous.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/11/2004 10:41 Comments || Top||

#14  Here's a story that appeared on the rise of attacks (by "North African" Muslim males) on French Jews:
Anti-Jewish acts in France soar

You'd better be Jewish, MS, or else I will be furious with outrage at your callous remarks!
This story is making major headlines all over the world!
Some "hoax!"
And have you ever ridden on the Paris Metro?
Because I have, many times and there would be witnesses.
Posted by: Jen || 07/11/2004 10:48 Comments || Top||

#15 
I have no trouble believing reports that anti-Jewish acts committed by Moslems in Franch are growing.

I don't believe that six Arabs attacked this particular woman on a train, knocked over her pram with her baby in it, clipped her hair, cut her t-shirt and trousers, and carved three swastikas on her stomach. I think she invented the story, probably because she could not explain an absence. Her cut t-shirt, trousers and stomach are her false evidence for her preposterous story. That's what I think.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/11/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#16  I can tell it's a fake because it doesn't have any globular clusters in it. Like Mr. Holland's opus.

In other news, a majority of women ask for it, victims are to blame, and Mike can make a snap judgment based on nothing more than the texture of his ass.

Piss off, Mikey.
Posted by: therien || 07/11/2004 12:00 Comments || Top||

#17  Mike S., what's up dude? Usually your judgement is fair but your off in space today. Are there a lot of 23 yr old women w/a child who would clip their own hair and cut up their own shirts & trousers on a whim just for an excuse? C'mon man, it's one thing to play devil's advocate, it's another to be ridiculous.
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/11/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#18  I understand Mike's skepticism. It only takes a few Tawanas out there to poison the well. I'd like to see independent corraboration -- witnesses, physical evidence, etc.

We know that anti-Jewish acts have soared in France the last few years, and we know that a significant portion of the French Muslim population would be happy and willing to kill all the French Jews if only given a chance.

But as they say in the newspaper biz, "if your mother says she loves you, check it out." Before I buy any story, I want corraboration.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/11/2004 13:51 Comments || Top||

#19  It seems there were other passengers who witnessed the attack.

From the BBC:
"Jean-Paul Huchon, president of the Ile-de-France region surrounding Paris, despaired of the lack of reaction from fellow passengers.
He recalled the French deportation of Jewish children during German occupation in World War II, saying: "And now, we let people be attacked like this without reacting, without doing anything."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3884983.stm
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 14:40 Comments || Top||

#20 
"Only Jews live in the 16th district," one of the men told her.

Preposterous!
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/11/2004 15:10 Comments || Top||

#21  Yes, but no more preposterous than the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia insisting that all terrorism is the work of zionists. A statement made before world media BTW.

I'm afraid, Mike, that much as you would like this not to happen, similar attacks are well attested in France during the last few years. For a while, the French police actively discouraged families from reporting these attacks - including one in which a swastika was carved on a young Jewish woman by a group of Arab immigrant men who later took credit for the attack. I'm away from my PC or I'd post the link to the story from Le Monde.

French leaders are willing now to say they have a problem, but since they have silently abetted it for years it won't be easy to fix. It's quite possible that because this attack was NOT on a Jew, it will get more official outrage and action ... but words are cheap and the French have yet to take actions that will contain the explosive arrogance, unemployment and ill schoolign prevalent among young Muslim men in the cites.
Posted by: rkb || 07/11/2004 17:34 Comments || Top||

#22  The only reason I'm somewhat skeptical is that the verb used is drawn or drew a swastika... not cut, burn or etched. It doesn't sound violent
enough to be carried out by legit members of the religon of peace.

BTW therein, if you blow up a really nice high rez. photo of the Sombrero Galaxy you can indeed see globular clusters, provided you have an open mind about such things.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/11/2004 19:22 Comments || Top||

#23  Mike, I call TROLL I ought to know a TROLL is see one.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 19:43 Comments || Top||

#24 
I mistakenly wrote that the swastikas were carved into her stomach. In fact, they were drawn with a magic marker. I'm sorry that I introduced that misinformation into this thread.

Why would such attackers draw the swastikas on her stomach but not on her face or arms or back? The stomach is a relatively easy place for the woman herself to draw swastikas, and it's a place on her body that she can easily cover on her trip home.

Six Arab men are on a train. They rob only one woman on the train. They cut only this one woman's clothes. They lift only this one woman's shirt and use a magic marker to draw swastikas on only this one woman's stomach. She's not Jewish, but one of the men explains to her that they have attacked her because "only Jews live in the 16th District."

The other people supposedly on the train who watched and didn't intervene? The attackers must assume they were Jewish too. After all, only Jews live in the 16th District, and the train is passing through the 16th District. So, the six Arabs must have assumed all the other passengers were Jewish too. Did the six Arabs attack any of the other passengers? Did they rob any of the other passengers? Did they draw swastikas on any of the other passengers' stomachs? Did they knock over the baby prams of any other passengers? Apparently not. They picked on only this one woman and her baby, who in fact are not Jewish, even though they were on a train in the 16th District, where only Jews live.

This story is a total crock.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/11/2004 19:50 Comments || Top||

#25 
Those of you who saw the movie Unfaithful remember that the wife's lover used a magic marker to draw a flower on the wife's lower stomach in order to embarrass her and her husband. How was she supposed to explain to her husband the butterfly drawn on her stomach with the magic marker? She would have to tell her husband some false story, wouldn't she?
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/11/2004 19:58 Comments || Top||

#26  Mike, you know all and see all from the comfort of your bacalounger. The BBC report notes there were French riders who did nothing to help this woman. Wonder why they're not interviewed in the press? Probably, because (unlike you) they feel shame at accepting their dhimmitude. Others have characterized your posts as PC edited propaganda - I now believe them. Either you're willfully ignorant or an idiot by nature. Witnesses, multiple reports in the major media, yet "not enough evidence to convince. Frankly I think I Mike"...Puhleaaaaze! I frankly don't care if you believe, but I think I'll bypass your posts in the future, unless a factual and complete post is done.
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 20:07 Comments || Top||

#27  man, you've really pissed me off to the point the last sentences were garbled. You get my drift
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 20:09 Comments || Top||

#28  Mike, this story isn't a crock and the sooner you drop saying that it is, the better it will be for your reputation and integrity (what's left of it) here at RB.
(BTW, I know the 16th arrondissement in Paris, commonly called "Passy" and the reason these Muslim males from the suburbs--les banlieus--think it's "Jewish" is because it's inhabitants are very rich.)
This is the most blatant kind of Anti-Semitism and sounds like it happened in Nazi Germany after the Nuremberg laws were enacted.)
Instead of carping about the truthfulness of the story, you should be on your knees praying for France and the rest of Western Europe which have clearly gone to the Devil.
Posted by: Jen || 07/11/2004 20:12 Comments || Top||

#29  P.S. Mike, when a story like this one would leak out of Nazi Germany to the Civilized World, the Nazis would laugh it off, too, just the way you do now.
"Hahahah, those Jews will say anything to get sympathy, jah?"
There were so many attacks on Jews in France, that Jacques Chirac gave a policy speech on this on Friday before this attack happened:
French PM vows tougher fight against anti-Semitism, racism
Please stop trying to say the story's a "hoax"--you made your point and it's offensive to me for you to continue to harp on it.
Posted by: Jen || 07/11/2004 20:22 Comments || Top||

#30  Shipman -- glad to see you're familiar with the incident too! That was exactly my point. Enquiring minds want to know, and others just take a stand and run with it.
Posted by: therien || 07/11/2004 21:05 Comments || Top||

#31  Well, the International Herald Tribune / NYT is carrying a version of thes tory now as well. The details are a it clearer in this article: the men surrounded the pram, then rifled the woman's backpack and saw where she was from, then dumped her baby on the floor, slashed the pram, cut her hair, cut her clothes and marked her. There is no mention of a marking pen -- but clear mention of knives.

Of the 20 witnesses, only 2 came forward to give information to the authorities. Shameful!!!
Posted by: rkb || 07/11/2004 21:54 Comments || Top||

#32  Forgot the link to the IHT/NYT article: http://www.iht.com/articles/528938.html

Mike S., I sympathize with your denial -- but you are worse than a fool to suggest this incident was faked and a "crock". If you don't understand how one woman with a baby could be attacked by 6 young thugs while others stood by, then you have never walked on the edge of South Central LA, as I (a woman) have, and been surrounded by a drug gang with knives and clear menace -- as in, threats of rape and other violence. Only a passing police car broke the situation up ... none of the passers-by with cell phones in their BMWs would look at me, much less help. As the police confirmed, none bothered to call.

So pardon me if I am less than impressed by your cynical posturing.
Posted by: rkb || 07/11/2004 22:00 Comments || Top||

#33 
Thanks for the link to the IHT article, rkb. We'll see. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/11/2004 22:55 Comments || Top||

#34  Dude, you're not just wrong, you're WAY WRONG.
Posted by: Jen || 07/11/2004 22:57 Comments || Top||


Mother, baby attacked on train
A YOUNG woman and her baby have been attacked in a suburban train near Paris by unidentified men who drew swastikas on the mother's stomach. Police today said it was an anti-Semitic assault. The six attackers who were armed with knives clipped the 23-year-old woman's hair, and cut her tee-shirt and trousers before drawing three swastikas on her body. The men of North African origin also overturned the pram holding her baby, aged 13 months. They then took the mother's backpack, which contained her identity papers, a bank card and cash. Police said the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish because she was living in Paris' posh 16th district. "Only Jews live in the 16th district," one of the men told her. Interior Minister Dominique de Villepin "firmly condemned" the attack and asked police to track down the attackers within the shortest possible time. The attack was "all the more serious because it was marked by racism and anti-Semitism", he said.
Posted by: tipper || 07/11/2004 12:07:30 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If the French were one tenth as smart as they think they are, they would round up and expel every person of North African (Algerian) or midEastern extraction. Pussyfooting around with thugs is how most European governments failed to suppress the fascist infection in the 30's. These thugs will never assimilate and wish the Europeans nothing but death.
Posted by: RWV || 07/11/2004 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2 
Police said the attackers erroneously assumed the woman was Jewish
Which is the only reason the Phrench are upset.

If she actually had been Jewish, however....
Posted by: Anonymous5673 || 07/11/2004 0:35 Comments || Top||

#3  You must have missed Chirac's getting off the plane from the middle east clutching a piece of paper and crowing "peace in our time" after selling out the Jews.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 1:51 Comments || Top||

#4  I think the World Court's decision on the fence has invigorated Muslim jew-hatred. They must be very proud of themselves.
Posted by: mhw || 07/11/2004 8:58 Comments || Top||

#5 
The probability that this really happened is about five percent.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/11/2004 9:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Mike, are you trying to be funny?
Of course it happened!
Haven't you heard what it's like to be Jewish in France the last few years?
French Jews are immigration (making alliya) to Israel in record numbers because they can't stand the hate crimes there anymore!
Posted by: Jen || 07/11/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#7  He is a freeking anti-semite. Ignore the troll

When does France start passing out the manditory stars to be worn? The certainly in most instances seem to go out of the way to coddle and encouage the islamisits. Charles Martel is spinning in his grave.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 20:52 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Clinton White House Saw Saddam-Osama Connection
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 23:29 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


The Dots Never Existed
The more he read, the more uneasy he became. In early February 2003 Colin Powell was putting the finishing touches on his speech to the United Nations spelling out the case for war in Iraq. Across the Potomac River, a Pentagon intelligence analyst going over the facts in the speech was alarmed at how shaky that case was. Powell's presentation relied heavily on the claims of one especially dubious Iraqi defector, dubbed "Curve Ball" inside the intel community. A self-proclaimed chemical engineer who was the brother of a top aide to Iraqi National Congress chief Ahmad Chalabi, Curve Ball had told the German intelligence service that Iraq had a fleet of seven mobile labs used to manufacture deadly biological weapons. But nobody inside the U.S. government had ever actually spoken to the informant—except the Pentagon analyst, who concluded the man was an alcoholic and utterly useless as a source. He recalled that Curve Ball had shown up for their only meeting nursing a "terrible hangover."

After reading Powell's speech, the analyst decided he had to speak up, according to a devastating report from the Senate intelligence committee, released last week, on intelligence failures leading up to the Iraq war. He wrote an urgent e-mail to a top CIA official warning that there were even questions about whether Curve Ball "was who he said he was." Could Powell really rely on such an informant as the "backbone" for the U.S. government's claims that Iraq had a continuing biological-weapons program? The CIA official quickly responded: "Let's keep in mind the fact that this war's going to happen regardless of what Curve Ball said or didn't say," he wrote. "The Powers That Be probably aren't terribly interested in whether Curve Ball knows what he's talking about."

The saga of Curve Ball is just one of many wince-inducing moments to be found in the 500-page Senate report, which lays out how the U.S. intelligence community utterly failed to accurately assess the state of Saddam Hussein's programs for weapons of mass destruction—and how White House and Pentagon officials, intent on taking the country to war, unquestioningly embraced the flawed conclusions. In startling detail, the bipartisan report concludes that the CIA and other agencies consistently "overstated" the evidence that Iraq possessed chemical and biological weapons, and was actively reconstituting its nuclear-weapons program. Hampered by a "group think" dynamic that caused them to view all Iraqi actions in the harshest possible light, the committee found, U.S. intelligence officials repeatedly embellished fragmentary and ambiguous pieces of evidence, making the danger posed by Iraq appear far more urgent than it actually was.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/11/2004 4:11:28 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The dots DID exist and they exist still. Intelligence is uncertainty and one must make JUDGEMENTS in conditions of uncertainty in situations like this. The Executive branch is the one with the decision authority in this case.

One could look at these dots and say "Naw. There is no ironclad proof that Iraq has anything now like they say, so let's drop the Sanctions and let Iraq be Iraq".

Alternatively, one could look at this and observe "Saddam has been our enemy for 2 decades, is involved with terrorists (exact extent unknown), has used WMD in the past, denies having WMD now, but acts as if he is hiding something. Post-9/11, we can't risk him working with terrorists for a uber-9/11 event. Period."

I am pleased W showed some cojones and went after Iraq.

I am apalled at 'the world's greatest deliberative body' would produce a report which neglect to mention anything about SENATE OVERSIGHT at it's obvious failure.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 07/11/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Brett, Amen!
And yet a majority of these same senators voted for OIF based on these same reports they're discrediting now.
What worries me is that they'll use these "flawed reports" as "proof" not to take action in future against Iran, or Syria, or Soddy Arabia, or North Korea...even if the evidence of WMDs and links with Islamist terrorists are clearer and more obvious than Saddam's Iraq.
It's an attempt to defang and castrate the Bush Doctrine and it's made me furious for months!
(Why does noone mention the numerous--almost daily!--Iraqi violations of the No-fly zones, which was another rationale for OIF?)
Posted by: Jen || 07/11/2004 20:29 Comments || Top||

#3  If I were a betting man, I would bet a lot that dots will start showing up in the coming months. I can't help coming back to that Lifson (sp?) piece about how good W is at poker. I have a feeling that there will be info coming out in the next few months that shows that the WMD and Iraq/al Qaeda intelligence wasn't really all that bad after all, and W will come out looking like the smart, decisive leader he is. To some extent, the interim Iraqi government is really being helpful in acknowledging that WMDs were taken out of the country before the war and that Syria and Iran have been sending in terrorists. The next few months may be realy fascinating. I really hope W has the strong hand he thinks he has.
Posted by: Anonymous5701 || 07/11/2004 23:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Anon, very solid comment. I agree. I have heard from a credible source (sorry, no link...but also no tinfoil hat)...that France and Russia were complicit in assisting Saddam remove the WMD's to Syria. This could come out at the right time. Regardless, it will be buried on P.26.
Posted by: Remote Man || 07/11/2004 23:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Newsweek is surely the worst "news" organ outside Europe or the Third World (at least among magazines). This is a typical bit of their work. Note the know-nothing dramatic "intent on taking the nation to war" -- uh, actually, fellas, it was intent on removing a threat that couldn't be managed, deterred, or even accurately guauged. Like 10-yr olds, the Newsweek dimwits think that US leaders seek war itself, not objectives sometimes addressed by war.

Have not yet been able to read the Senate report, but it sounds like it's got a fundamental problem.

How do they know we (and everyone else) were wrong in the assessments? Don't you need to know the actual situation, in order to compare it to the intel estimate? Answer: yes. So what WAS the actual situation? How can the Senate start second-guessing the process when there's no side-by-side final score? Does their report rely on an early version of the Iraq Survey Group's final report? If not -- how can they possibly evaluate pre-war intel?

I personally am very skeptical of all the Syria stories -- but the point is that we don't know -- so how can most of the pre-war intel be judged flawed or incorrect?

Newsweek's breathless pushing of every stupid myth in the book also assumes that the congressional committees were powerless and voiceless at all stages of the process. Not. The committees can and do haul up all and sundry to defend any analytical product Congress wants to examine or challenge. If all the Dems (and a discouraging # of spineless or dim GOPers) now whining about the intel had wanted to, they could have challenged the per-war NIE and gotten into the weeds on it.
Posted by: Verlaine || 07/12/2004 0:03 Comments || Top||

#6  The Anonymous5701 comment was from me, BTW. Don't know what happened to my info.
Posted by: Tibor || 07/12/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||


Proposal to delay US Elections if Al-Q Attacks...
Exclusive: Election Day Worries
Newsweek
July 19 issue - American counter-terrorism officials, citing what they call "alarming" intelligence about a possible Qaeda strike inside the United States this fall, are reviewing a proposal that could allow for the postponement of the November presidential election in the event of such an attack, NEWSWEEK has learned.
I doubt it greatly. Somehow we've gone through every other war we've fought without missing an election...
The prospect that Al Qaeda might seek to disrupt the U.S. election was a major factor behind last week's terror warning by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge. Ridge and other counterterrorism officials concede they have no intel about any specific plots. But the success of March's Madrid railway bombings in influencing the Spanish elections - as well as intercepted "chatter" among Qaeda operatives - has led analysts to conclude "they want to interfere with the elections," says one official. As a result, sources tell NEWSWEEK, Ridge's department last week asked the Justice Department?s Office of Legal Counsel to analyze what legal steps would be needed to permit the postponement of the election were an attack to take place. Justice was specifically asked to review a recent letter to Ridge from DeForest B. Soaries Jr., chairman of the newly created U.S. Election Assistance Commission. Soaries noted that, while a primary election in New York on September 11, 2001, was quickly suspended by that state's Board of Elections after the attacks that morning, "the federal government has no agency that has the statutory authority to cancel and reschedule a federal election."
Period. They have that sort of thing in banana republics...
Soaries, a Bush appointee who two years ago was an unsuccessful GOP candidate for Congress, wants Ridge to seek emergency legislation from Congress empowering his agency to make such a call.
If he does, Congress should tar and feather him, either before or after Bush fires him on the spot. And Soaries should be pounding the pavement now. The potential for abuse far outweighs any benefit.
Homeland officials say that as drastic as such proposals sound, they are taking them seriously - along with other possible contingency plans in the event of an election-eve or Election Day attack. "We are reviewing the issue to determine what steps need to be taken to secure the election," says Brian Roehrkasse, a Homeland spokesman.
-Michael Isikoff
Over my dead f**king body. First, then the bastards really will have won. We've not had to cancel an election in 228 years, one of which was held while massive military operations were being held witin 100 miles of the inauguration. We take a hit and we close the country? These Homeland Security types can kiss my ass. President Bush needs to tell these people in no uncertain terms that it ain't gonna happen.

Secondly - perhaps more importantly - remember this: "Do not give George Bush any power you don?t want Hilary Clinton to have." If it can be cancelled once, it can be canecelled again - and the next time it might be for keeps.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 07/11/2004 9:57:07 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's Newsweek, consider the source.
Posted by: Raj || 07/11/2004 11:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Nice reaction Mike, I totally agree.

A more realistic contingency plan would be to determine what steps are necessary to ensure the legitimacy of election results in the wake of some terrorist attack(s) somewhere in the US on election day.

Regardless, now I am going to duck and cover because there will probably be a storm over this from the LLL next week. Yet, I am curious to see who in the Dem party or left will be the first to mention the Reichstag fire in reaction to this story...
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 07/11/2004 11:55 Comments || Top||

#3  The LLLs at Democratic Underground were hyperventilating speculating about this scenario months ago... I think just after Madrid 3/11. I know, you're shocked
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/11/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Good grief. Not only is this Newsweek, it's Michael Isikoff for crying out loud.

The notion that Bush will "cancel" the election and, presumably, declare himself Emperor for Life or some such nonsense, is a perennial staple of the paranoid Left- and this horseshit article is nothing more than a cynical attempt to play on that paranoia to motivate them to vote for Kerry.

Frankly, I see nothing more in this than government officials doing exactly what they goddamn well SHOULD be doing: trying to figure out, in advance, what the available options are in the event al-Qaeda tries to pull a Madrid on us.

What the hell do you want them to do, wait until after some bunch of ragheads sets off bombs at polling places on Election Day before they start thinking about what to do about it???
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/11/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Isikoff was one of the last shreds of cred at Newsweak...
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Feh. I never had much use for him, or for any other Newsweek hack for that matter.

The point is, people need to take this stuff with a grain of salt instead of flying into a panic.
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/11/2004 12:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Dave -
Let me clarify. There's no panic here, just a very strong reaction to an idea nobody needs to be knocking around. More than likely we are talking about a hit on one city, and even then a fairly small number of voters and polling places. Yes, we do need to work on contingency plans for what to do about making sure the electoral process continues under attack - but we need to take any talk at all about postponing or cancelling elections and cut it off at the knees.
If we get hit so badly that we have to even consider putting off national elections, then we will be under the mother of all national emergencies anyways. At that point, pull out the old Doomsday scenarios - there's gotta be something in there that covers it - but press on, even if you're writing your choices on a piece of paper and handing it to a registrar. We did it without computers (that's why there's that three month window in there), we did it without television, and we did it without fear.
We can do it again no matter what the Izzoids pull.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 07/11/2004 13:34 Comments || Top||

#8  I hear ya, Mike-- it's just that this whole thing sounds to me like nothing more than DHS just trying to scope out what the range of legal options would be in the event of a terrorist attack targeted at influencing the elections.

As for the likely nature of an attack, I'd be more inclined to expect a large number of small attacks, specifically targeted to suppress the vote in heavily Republican districts (at least that's what the Izzoids would do if they had any brains and if they want to get actual results rather than just showing off). They don't really need to have anything go "boom!" for that matter: just leaving some live backpack nailbombs laying about near the polling places would do the trick.
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/11/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||

#9  These folks are smoking crack.

We should move election day to April 16th anyway.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 18:55 Comments || Top||

#10  I saw the following a couple days ago, through an LJ friend's post (one of the few times LJ is quicker to inform me than Rantburg is).

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/07/20040708-15.html

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Q: On Ridge's security warnings, can the President today guarantee Americans that no terrorist attack can upset the U.S. elections this November, that they will go ahead as planned?

MR. McCLELLAN: Ann, I don't think anyone can make guarantees. But the full intention is to move forward and hold those elections. I don't know specific information related to election day or any other of the high profile events that we have coming up.

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Perhaps he didn't mean it to sound as it did, but the way I read it it *did* seem as if there was no guarantee on holding the November election, though there's "full intention" on going ahead and holding them.

And that's Bush's press secretary.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/11/2004 19:14 Comments || Top||

#11  Agree with FlameBait and the day should be a holiday and polls should be open for 24 hours a day and open/close at the same time.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/11/2004 19:26 Comments || Top||

#12  What is April 16th? I don't get the reference.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/11/2004 19:51 Comments || Top||

#13  What is April 16th? I don't get the reference.

Day after federal income taxes are due. LOL.


Posted by: Wuzzalib || 07/11/2004 19:56 Comments || Top||

#14  Elections should go through no matter what, except in areas where the destruction is too extensive for them to be held. Spain did not postpone its elections after the Madrid bombings, and neither should we. If this means that the Republican party loses the Congressional elections in November, so be it.

As to presidential elections - areas that are destroyed may have to be excluded from the electoral vote count or a postponement may be necessary. From the standpoint of fairness, postponement is a better option, given that specific areas of destruction are likely to have leaned towards one party or another.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/11/2004 22:36 Comments || Top||

#15  Isikoff's a Clintonista tool...!
The Left is so crazy, their buzz is that if there's an attack, Bush will cancel the election, declare martial law, and then elect himself Emperor for Life (a plan I personally like! BWahahahahah!).
But seriously, I'm sure the government has plans in place to deal with this eventuality and should there be another bad attack, I have no doubt that good, patriotic Americans will crawl across broken glass literally to vote!
After all, we got through the election when Al Gore staged his terror attack in 2000!
Posted by: Jen || 07/11/2004 23:50 Comments || Top||

#16  One needs to ask the question, how did Spain's radical version of Mr. Bean get elected in Spain? Terrorism .........almost made to order.

Not the typical jihad boys committing suicide for Allah ..right? How come?

Would having a devastating 'terrorist attack' just a week, or maybe a few days prior to the general election work twice for the Left?

Just a thought.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/12/2004 0:10 Comments || Top||


Bush's State of the Union speech redeemed
Steyn, of course.
Do you remember a year ago when the Democratic National Committee was putting out press releases headlined ''President Bush Deceives The American People"?

Yawn. What's new? But last summer the Bush Lie Of The Week was all to do with Saddam trying to buy uranium from Niger. CNN and Co. replayed endlessly the critical 16 words from the president's 2003 State of the Union Address:

''The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Sixteen words that could break a presidency! Bush ''misled every one of us,'' huffed Sen. John Kerry. ''It's beginning to sound like Watergate,'' said Howard Dean. Joseph C. Wilson IV, the man the CIA sent to Africa to investigate, wrote a piece for the New York Times titled ''What I didn't find in Africa.''

Can you guess what he didn't find, dear reader? That's right, he didn't find a big package of uranium bearing the address label ''S. Hussein, Suite 27, the Saddam Hussein Centre for Armageddon Studies, Saddam Hussein Parkway, Baghdad.'' Ambassador Wilson said relax, he'd been to Niger, spent "eight days drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people,'' and there's nothing going on.

Well, on Wednesday in London, Lord Butler will publish his report into the quality of the intelligence on which rested Britain's case for going to war with Iraq. The report is said to be critical of some of Tony Blair's claims, supportive of others. And, among the latter, he says that the statements about Iraq and Niger are justified and supported by the intelligence. In other words, the British Government did learn that Saddam Hussein did seek significant quantities of uranium from Africa. As a gazillion e-mails a day shrieked from my in-box back then, ''BUSH LIED!!!!!!" So where exactly in that State of the Union observation is the lie?

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: tipper || 07/11/2004 12:10:23 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey, hey, CIA
How many Bush lies did you expose today?


Who will be the first, to step up with a bumper sticker!
Posted by: Sherry || 07/11/2004 0:48 Comments || Top||

#2  But, but, but......all my commie friends told me that Bush lied. Now I have to think?
Posted by: Capt America || 07/11/2004 1:36 Comments || Top||

#3  The uranium purchase seems to me to be sufficient evidence of Saddam's intent to build a nuke to validate Bush's claim of a WMD threat as justification for the war. Then too, Bush has more or less acknowledged that he was assuming a worst case scenario, which is the prudent assumption when nukes are involved. Worst case scenarios are by definition low probability events, so more often than not the worst case will not happen. That's the paradox of WMD proliferation and why it's such a difficult problem.
Posted by: virginian || 07/11/2004 9:12 Comments || Top||

#4  This revelation is so clear, so damning, so sobering, that senator Fed Kennedy has promised to "...stay the cork".
Posted by: Comment Top || 07/11/2004 16:28 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Algerian Terrorist To Be Sentenced Next February In Seattle
A federal judge has set convicted terrorist Ahmed Ressam's sentencing for February 17th, 2005. The Algerian national was caught smuggling explosives into the United States through Port Angeles in December 1999. Ressam was convicted in April 2001 of nine charges, including terrorist conspiracy. Investigators describe the case as a foiled plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport at the turn of the millennium. Ressam had faced up to 130 years in prison but he has cut a deal with the Justice Department. He is cooperating with authorities in exchange for a 27-year prison sentence.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 1:23:40 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


NY Muslim Leaders Call FBI Request for Help "Racial Profiling"
With recent warnings of possible terrorist attack this summer, FBI agents are asking Muslims to alert them of any terror activity within their communities. Muslim leaders in Rochester call the request offensive and a form of racial profiling. Hanif Abdul Wahid and ten of his friends patrol the streets of Rochester twice a week. They focus on the area known as the "Crescent," which some believe has the highest crime rate in the city. Their group, called RAIN--Rochestarians Against Illegal Narcotics--is made up of those in the Islamic faith. "It's to promote public safety in the neighborhood, good citizenship. We try to help curb the violence in the city," he said.

Recently FBI agents have been told to establish contacts with Muslims across the county. The US government believes this could stop an attack. While he volunteers for pubic service, Wahid says the FBI's request directed at Muslims is offensive. He believes it sends the message that all Muslims are terrorists, which, he says is far from the truth. "Some part of me says that they shouldn't have to do that, because naturally Muslims are law-abiding citizens, and they cooperate on the side of what's just," Wahid said. Mohammed Shafiq, the executive director of the Islamic society of Rochester calls the request another example of racial profiling. "[It's] Racism in the sense that when you pinpoint a particular race for something--meaning that you're undermining their sincerity, their patriotism in this country," he said. Shafiq says he has not been contacted personally by the FBI, but like any other US citizen--he would never hesitate to contact law enforcement if he sees or hears anything suspicious.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 12:39:44 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Someone should tell this asshat that Islam isn't a race......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/11/2004 12:49 Comments || Top||

#2  He believes it sends the message that all Muslims are terrorists,

Close, but no cigar Wahid. Try all terrorist are Muslims.
Posted by: ed || 07/11/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#3  "Some part of me says that they shouldn’t have to do that, because naturally Muslims are law-abiding citizens, and they cooperate on the side of what’s just,"

All muslims are law'abiding citizens? What about a large number of these "law abiding citizens" who have recently, in the U.S. alone, been arrested, indicted and convicted for various offenses, many tied to terrorist activities. If the muslims in that community wanted to demonstrate their patriotism for this country, they would be only too happy to cooperate with law enforcement. Get over yourselves...many of us non-muslims have been stopped, questioned, searched, etc. We understand the seriousness of the present situation. Crazyfool is right...but I find it interesting that muslims consider islam a race...
Posted by: jawa || 07/11/2004 15:58 Comments || Top||

#4  All muslims ARE terrorists, as far as I'm concerned. Until they, individually, prove otherwise, I'm convinced they're all terrorists. muslims are filthy, stinking animals.....and compulsive liars.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/11/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Halfass Pete, while you are a little over the top with the filthy stinking animals part I have to agree that they tend to be liars when speaking to non-muslims. Their lack of responsibility within the Muslim community has caused most Americans to no longer trust them and I assume if there is another 9/11 sized attack the Muslims in the US will learn what true profiling and anti-Muslim attitudes look like (imagine Jews living in France right now).

Man, there were Japanese and Germans that signed up to fight in WW2 to prove they were Americans, even while many Japanese were rounded up. I hoped the Muslims in America might do a similar thing, but no, instead they cry about a handful of incidents and lay low until they are certain who will win the conflict. Cowardly buggers.
Posted by: Yank || 07/11/2004 18:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Yank, with all due respect,(to you), muslims are filthy, stinkin' animals......PERIOD! Nothing you may say will change that FACT.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/11/2004 19:05 Comments || Top||

#7  If we claim that there are X number of Arabs who have committed a terrorist act, that is not racial profiling, that is statistics. And if they're statistically more likely to commit terrorist acts, then searching Norwegian grandmothers and letting Arabs stroll by is just stupid.
Posted by: The Doctor || 07/11/2004 21:32 Comments || Top||

#8  "....naturally Muslims are law-abiding citizens, and they cooperate on the side of what’s just," Wahid said. Mohammed Shafiq.." Leaving the decision as to whats just up to him. Hmmm let me see. How aboput this. If you know of anyone who is going to break the law and attack anyone or anything in the USA were you live you should report it and leave the "just" part up to a judge and jury. Quit carving exceptions for yourself and religion because you are a muslim. You are a citizen of the USA and have obligations to your counrty. If you have to hem and haw about turning in some law breaker or terrorist because he is muslim I suggest you consider imigration to Canada where they put up with this kind of crap.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 21:41 Comments || Top||

#9  Logic 101 (in my book...let's go to school):

"All Muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims"...how 'bout that one? And I'm with C.F...who the f#ck do they think they are trying to portray Islam as a "race" (although they do want it to be). We may be profilin'...but it's not RACIAL profilin', but RELIGIOUS (ROP) profilin', eh?
Posted by: BA || 07/11/2004 22:54 Comments || Top||

#10  One thing that has been lost upon this discussion is how the FBI has asked the Muslim community to police itself. This is a very important concept in that moderate Muslims must soon begin to identify militant jihadists within their ranks or merely be lumped together with all terrorists.

This is among some of the last chances that American Muslims will be getting. Soon enough the profiling will start in earnest. Far too much terrorism is a result of Islamist violence for authorities not to focus specifically upon this one single source. If they refuse to help, they will become part of the problem instead of the solution.

Time is running out, as is patience. Should such total lack of cooperation continue to be forthcoming, when the next attacks occur, I will have far less of a problem advocating internment camps or mass deportations. Islam thinks it has carte blanch to continue its dissembling and subterfuge. Quite the opposite is true. People will take up arms against them soon enough, myself included.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/11/2004 23:48 Comments || Top||

#11  HalfAss Pete is my man. They are filthy stinking animals, and should be sent back to their filthy stinking desert, where they can pass the time cutting each others filthy stinking heads off.
Posted by: Anonymous5765 || 07/16/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||


Boston: Mystery blackout at Logan Airport
A mysterious power failure at Logan Airport that delayed dozens of flights for more than five hours has still not been explained – six days later.
(Here we go again....)
Airport officials insist airline security was not compromised during the blackout Monday at Logan International's Terminal E, but backup electrical systems failed to kick in as they are programmed under such circumstances. Logan is the airport from which two of the Sept. 11 hijacked planes originated. Officials promised a full report on the blackout Wednesday. It has still not been issued. "We're trying to figure out exactly what happened and why it happened," said Phil Orlandella, Massport spokesman, last week. The power outage was caused by an explosion at Massport's Porter Street electric substation in East Boston around 2:15 p.m. Monday, officials said. The blast shut down the terminal's security screening systems and other equipment. Power was restored around 7:10 p.m. During the outage, federal security screeners had to search luggage and passengers by hand while canine screeners were brought in to sniff for explosives. One terrorism specialist said yesterday the failure of the backup systems at Logan is a sign that federal security officials have not created a foolproof system.
As the cowboy said when he saw the camel, "There ain't no sech animal!"
"That [electrical] system should work, and that backup system should work," said Juval Aviv, president of Interfor, an international investigative and intelligence-gathering firm. Aviv also serves as a special consultant to the U.S. Congress on issues of terrorism. "After 9/11, Homeland Security promised that those basic security systems are now under full control and will function," Aviv told the Boston Globe. "For the system to fail and for the backup at the same time, it's totally unprofessional."
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 4:04:39 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  must be the same electrocuted bird/squirrel/Arab terrorist that knocked out the power at LAX
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 11:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank,

You too remember that bird on the wire thing, eh?
Posted by: jawa || 07/11/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Manila Rebuffs Kidnappers in Iraq; Bulgarians Alive
A Filipino hostage in Iraq was in grave peril on Sunday after Manila rejected his captors’ demands for an early withdrawal of its U.S.-allied troops. But in a glimmer of hope for two Bulgarian truck drivers held hostage, Sofia said they were still alive after a Friday night execution deadline set by their kidnappers expired. Militants holding Filipino truck driver Angelo de la Cruz vowed to kill him unless Manila pledged by 11 p.m. (3 p.m. EDT) on Sunday to pull its 51-strong humanitarian force out of Iraq by July 20. Manila held firm. "In line with our commitment to the free people of Iraq, we reiterate our plan to return our humanitarian contingent as scheduled on August 20, 2004," Philippine Foreign Secretary Delia Albert told a news conference in Manila. De la Cruz had appeared close to release on Saturday night before his captors issued a fresh death threat. "Yesterday was a false hope, he was not released but we are hoping he will soon be free," said a Philippine embassy source in Baghdad. He said he had heard nothing since the kidnappers had extended their deadline to kill the 46-year-old driver.

In Sofia, the Bulgarian government said two Bulgarian truck drivers taken hostage were alive after a Friday deadline for their execution expired. "Now I can confirm the information, which has been received three hours ago (5 a.m. EDT) that our compatriots are alive," Foreign Minister Solomon Passy told a press briefing. Amid the drama of the hostage crisis, guerrillas struck in northern Iraq, killing a soldier in a U.S. taskforce with a roadside bomb attack on a convoy south of Mosul.
It’s good to hear that Arroyo has reconsidered any compliance with terrorist demands. Negotiation will never work. Death is the only language that terrorists will ever understand.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/11/2004 3:15:44 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Marine's kin ask Arabs for sympathy
BEIRUT -- Relatives of a U.S. Marine who surfaced in Beirut nearly three weeks after an apparent kidnapping in Iraq appealed for understanding from fellow Arabs on Saturday, saying the Lebanese-born man emigrated and joined the Marines for financial reasons.
Sympathy...anyone...anyone...going once...going twice...
In Hassoun's native city of Tripoli,
Are you Lebanse or Libyan? Make up your mind?
his family issued a statement saying he was forced to go to the United States and join the Marines because of the deteriorating economic situation caused by Lebanon's 1975-90 civil war.
Yep, held a gun to his head did those recruiters. I didn't realize the Marines had brought back the Royal Navy practice of pressing people into service from the streets of third world countries. Those sneaky leathernecks.
The statement appeared aimed at countering criticism by some fundamentalist Sunni Muslims in Tripoli, who accused Hassoun's family of being "American agents and collaborators."
No that would make him CIA.
It stressed the family's Arab and Islamic ties and its loyalty to Lebanon. "We are a family of Lebanese Arab Muslims. We are not seeking to defend ourselves," the Hassoun family's statement said. "But we would like to thank the Lebanese for sympathizing with one of their sons [Hassoun] who was pushed by the difficult living conditions in their home country to emigrate and forced to work in a position that they may not like." The statement said Hassoun, 24, was "driven by the lure of a good life to emigrate, [but he] might have made a mistake by choosing to sign a four-year contract with the U.S. Navy, which expires by the end of 2005."
Yep, shoulda opted for three. "I gotta support and defend what?"
The Marines are part of the Navy.
Uh-oh, those are fightin' words.
On Thursday, two people were killed and three others wounded in a Tripoli gun battle between members of the Hassoun clan and business rivals who called them American collaborators.
Well at least some of the Hassouns can fight.
Posted by: Zpaz || 07/11/2004 11:58:46 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If this is true, I hope the army debrief this asshole to death (literally).
Posted by: Anonymous4617 || 07/11/2004 12:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Correction: debrief should read debriefs.
Posted by: Anonymous4617 || 07/11/2004 12:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe they could rebrief him with a pair of frilly panties.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/11/2004 13:00 Comments || Top||

#4  The NY Daily News article, June 28, 2004, said this guy Hassoun came to America right before 9/11 and was supposedly so affected by it that he joined the Marines...kind of doesn't jive with the above... Also, his father said "he, (Hassoun), isn't a fighter", (why would he join the Marines then? Surely, with his language skills he could have found suitable employment somewhere other than the Corps). The family doesn't make any claims as to their being Arab-Americans, (hmmmmmmmmmm). Does anyone wonder why a US Marine would be released unharmed by the beheading-crazed muslim terrorist enemy? I wonder how much of the real story the world will be privvy to.
Posted by: jawa || 07/11/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Has anyone seen the ticker running along the bottom of CNN yesterday saying Hassoun had been granted immunity for his statements during debriefing and actions prior to the debriefing? I am not sure, but at one point it appeared this Marine deserted his post. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that a capitol offense during a time of war? Why is this lowly truck driver turned interpretor being given such special treatment? Anyone have any ideas, please post them. If you can provide evidence, please provide your source.
Posted by: Anonymous5700 || 07/11/2004 22:47 Comments || Top||

#6  F*ck this asshole and his family. Deport the family now. They talk like it's such an embarrasing hardship to reside in America.
Posted by: Les Nessman || 07/11/2004 23:48 Comments || Top||

#7  It is going to take a very long time and a lot of hardship for Americans to realize that a muslim cannot be loyal to anything but Islam. Everywhere they go, they are muslim first and a very distant second whatever nationality they are born under.
The only reason for the Army to let this as***le in, would have been to use him as a agent. But, if that was the case, he would not have his head attached to his shoulders now.
Posted by: Anonymous4617 || 07/12/2004 0:32 Comments || Top||


Reformist despair in Assad's Syria
Posted by: Steve White || 07/11/2004 12:06:31 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  PPP for disqualification of Laleka for fake graduation degree
Wednesday September 10, 2003 (1450 PST)

ISLAMABAD, September 11 (Online): Pakistan People's Party has appealed to the chief justice of the Supreme Court to take action against the legislators who contested general elections on the basis of fake degrees.
"The Chief Justice of Pakistan should order for early disposal of the cases through which the fake degrees have been challenged", said Mir Imran Bajarani, member of PPP central working committee while addressing a press conference here Wednesday.

On the PPP campaign against the fake degree holders, seated in the parliament, he said that under the directives of party chairperson, Benazir Bhutto he was engaged in collecting the details about the lawmakers who won the election under government patronage on the basis of fake degrees.

He regretted that fake degrees of those legislators were accepted who showed readiness to support government. Abdul Sattar Lalika and Salim Jan Mazari are among heavy weights of the ruling party who are sitting in the parliament with fake degrees, he pointed out.

He informed that his rival, Salim Jan Mazari, filed his nomination papers with fake degree. How ironical it is that Mazari mentioned his educational qualification as intermediate when he filed his nomination papers in 1997 and the degree he submitted alongwith his nomination papers in general elections 2002 is shown to have been issued in 1997, he indicated.

Giving details of his campaign on tracing the cases of fake degrees, he said that " I proceed to London to probe into fake degree awarding process. An office is set up in a room of a building at London where fake degrees are issue. Degree is given within a week at the cost of 3 to 10 thousands pounds, he hinted.

Besides Salim Jan Mazari, MPA from Badin, Ali Bakhsh Shah comes second in the line of the provincial assembly members who obtained fake degrees from London, he disclosed. Election Commission should declare all the parliamentarians holding fake degrees, he demanded.

Posted by: Anonymous5683 || 07/11/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#2 
Dubai a haven for Pak renegade Politicians.

Dec 09, 2000 01:55 Hrs (IST)


Islamabad: Dubai has become a haven for scores of Pakistani politicians and bureaucrats, who are on the run to avoid prosecution in various corruption and criminal cases in their home state.

The politicians are not only carrying out their political activities from Dubai but are also raking in millions through business empires established in collaboration with Arab partners, a Newsline Magazine report said.

Some of the prominent politicians who have made the Gulf their home in recent years are : Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, Nusrat Bhutto, Fazal Pechuho and Mir Munawar Talpur, brothers-in-Law of Asif Zardari, Liaquat Jatoi, former Chief Minister of Sindh, Jam Mashooq, son of Muslim League Leader Jam Sadiq Ali and Saleem Shahzad and Aminul Haq of the Mutihada Quami Movement(MQM). Several Pakistan Muslim League (PML) leader like Abu Baker Shaikani have also set up factories in the UAE, The Magazine reported.

Benazir Bhutto lives in Dubai along with her mother. Dozens of Party workers visit her every week from Pakistan to discuss Party affairs. The Former Prime Minister has been charged in several corruption case and her husband is in jail for the past few years in this connection.

Mir Talpur and Fazal Pechuho were whisked away to Dubai in a boat and both of them are running businesses there. In fact reports state that Asif Zaradari had asked them to take care of his family and assets in Dubai.

Several other Pakistan Peoples Party(PPP) Leaders, who have moved their assets from Pakistan to set up corporate ventures in the United Arab Emirates are Haji Muzzafar Shurja, and Sarfarza Gebol, whose business includes a luxury hotel in Muscat.

Liaqat Jatoi has also found refuge in Dubai. He made his way to Dubai Via Iran and is running a hotel business there.

Jam Mashooq Ali,who is wanted in several corruption cases in Pakistan, has also settled in Dubai. His powerful connections in the Gulf came to his rescue which enabled him to flee Pakistan in a special plane owned by an Arab Sheikh.

The MQM leaders are engaged in spare parts business in Dubai. They have also been awarded catering contracts.

Jailed prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's family has a well established business in the Gulf.

Saifur rehman, who heads a leading construction company in Qatar, is a business partner of the Sharifs.

Other politicians settled in Dubai include former Sindh Minister Salim Jan Mazari, and Raja Sain,eldest son of Pir of Pagaro and the Jatois.

Other than politicians, there are numerous bureaucrats living lavishly in the UAE, including A. R. Bughio, Nayyer Bari and Hussain Lawal.

The magazine quoting officials said these politicians and bureaucrats have moved 90 per cent of their assets to the Gulf.

UNI

Posted by: Anonymous5683 || 07/11/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#3  hmmm - a basic tenet of commenting on a post is that you actually comment on the post. WTF does Paki and Dubai politician hi-jinx have to do with Assas's Syria? Jeebus
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 12:32 Comments || Top||

#4  That's is 2003 Frank.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/11/2004 19:32 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
U.S. (leftist) Jew Denied Entry Into Israel
By DAN WALDMAN
Associated Press Writer

July 11th, 2004


JERUSALEM -- A Jewish American was denied entry to Israel because she belongs to a pro-Palestinian group, her lawyer said Sunday -- a rare case of a Jew banned from the Jewish state. (Self hating Jews are 'the enemy within' the Jewish state, ban them all!

Jamie Spector, 32, a social worker from San Francisco, (wow what a radical profile) arrived in Israel on Saturday to protest the West Bank separation barrier Israel is constructing. She has been held in detention since defying the order to leave, said her lawyer, Yael Berda.

The separation barrier was ruled illegal in an advisory opinion on Friday by the International Court of Justice in The Hague, Netherlands. Israel dismissed the nonbinding ruling as one-sided, charging that it encourages terrorism.

Israel says the barrier is needed to keep Palestinian attackers out of the country, but Palestinians call it a land grab because it dips into the West Bank.

Spector was denied entry because of her affiliation with the International Solidarity Movement, a pro-Palestinian group active in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, Berda said. The group's members often place themselves in between Palestinians and Israeli forces to prevent the army from carrying out operations.

Tova Ellinson, spokeswoman for the Ministry of the Interior, said officials acted in accordance with a security recommendation. She refused to comment further.

Huwaidi Arraf, an American-born Palestinian and founder of the ISM, said that more than 10 group members have been refused entry into Israel in the past month. Two other ISM activists are in the same detention center as Spector.

Israel charges that the activists defy military orders and endanger themselves and soldiers. Many ISM members have been deported.

However, banning Spector's entry was different, Berda said. "This is a special case," she told The Associated Press. "It is very difficult for Israel to ban Jews from entering the country. It means that the courts will look differently on her."

With few exceptions, Jews are allowed automatic entry into Israel and are offered citizenship.

"I am very sorry that the Israeli government is denying me entry into the country where I have so many family and friends," Spector said. "I am committed to nonviolent actions and also to protest the illegal apartheid wall." Berda relayed the AP's questions and Spector's answers by telephone.

It would be wonderful when these rats attempt to re-enter the U.S., customs would say "Not today terrorist lover, try North Korea or Iran!"

Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 11:58:56 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Subsaharan
Rebels Abduct Tribal Leader, Others in West Sudan

Sunday, July 11th, 2004

KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Rebels attacked a town in western Sudan on Sunday, abducting a key tribal leader and two other prominent figures, North Darfur state governor Osman Kibir said.
The rebels snatched the three men in the town of al-La’at in Darfur, stoking further tension in a conflict between Arab militias, the government and the rebels which has created what the United Nations says is the world’s worst humanitarian crisis.

The rebels and the government signed a cease-fire agreement in April but both sides say the other has frequently broken it.

The abducted men included al-Sadiq Abbas, the leader of all the Arab tribes in eastern Darfur, a judge and the manager of the town’s agricultural bank, Kibir said. He gave no other details of the attack.

Al-La’at is a small town to the east of the North Darfur capital, El Fasher.

Kibir said the rebels, from the Sudan Liberation Movement and the Justice and Equality Movement, had violated the truce in Darfur 50 times since April.

The government is under international pressure to disarm the Arab militias, known as the Janjaweed and is accused by the rebels of conducting a campaign of ethnic cleansing.

German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said in Khartoum on Sunday Sudan must honor its promise to the United Nations to disarm the Janjaweed, blamed for violence that has driven around a million people from their homes.

"We appreciate that (U.N. Secretary-General) Kofi Annan and the Sudanese government reached an agreement. But it must be implemented," said Fischer who was on a one-day visit.

Annan secured the promise at talks in Khartoum with President Omar Hassan al-Bashir and other Sudanese leaders last week.

In a statement on Sunday, the Sudan Liberation Movement accused the government of incorporating Janjaweed into the armed forces and police and arming them to fight the rebels and "terrorize innocent civilians."

"We call upon the secretary-general and the U.S. secretary of state to put in place other mechanisms for the disarmament of the Janjaweed and the protection of civilians rather than leaving it to the regime," the rebel statement said.


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Home Front: Culture Wars
Muslim Moderation
Posted by: tipper || 07/11/2004 23:08 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
Arab Bomb Victim Backs West Bank Barrier
The images from the explosion kept running through Sammi Masrawa's mind as he lay in his hospital bed - a young female soldier with the back of her head missing, a heavily pregnant woman lying on the sidewalk, legs mangled legs, screaming "my baby, my baby." Sunday's blast at a Tel Aviv bus stop had changed his world view. The 29-year-old Arab Israeli from Tel Aviv was the head of a local committee calling for coexistence between Israelis and the Palestinians.

Now he wants them kept apart. "A month ago I went to protest the fence," he said, referring to the barrier Israel is building in the West Bank. "Now I believe it can only strengthen us." The bombing came just two days after the world court ruled that the barrier is illegal. Israel says the structure keeps bombers out, while Palestinians says it encroaches on their land and disrupts the lives of thousands of people. Nearly 1,000 Israelis have been killed, many of them in bombings, since fighting broke out four years ago. Just over 3,000 Palestinians were killed in the same period, most by Israeli army fire.
Continued on Page 49
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Iraq-Jordan
Saddam Hussein's Lawyers Insist on Hussein's Release on Bail
The former Iraqi Leader Saddam Hussein must be let out of prison on bail until the beginning of the legal proceedings against him, announced Gazeta Ru. This was announced by one of his lawyers Giovanni Di Stefano. The Italian lawyer, who works in London has announced that he has sent an official application to Iraqi authorities for Hussein's release on bail.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 3:43:13 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  yeah sure, just disarm the US mil guards and you can have him
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#2  And as soon as the Iraqi Authorities stop laughing they will tell you their answer. New low for Lawyers.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 07/11/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#3  "Let's see, lemme think about it...no."
Posted by: mojo || 07/11/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Bail? Bail? You want bail? I got your bail for you right here.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#5  All privaleges to the accused of henious war crimes. If the Iraqis are not careful, they will have this trial decreased to a circus, US style.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 18:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Two words: Flight Risk
Posted by: Zenster || 07/11/2004 19:48 Comments || Top||

#7  Do we get to say when and where he will be released on bail?

I'm sure the Kurds will be more then happy to accomodate his (ahem!) 'release'
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/11/2004 21:47 Comments || Top||

#8  2 trillion dollars ought to be about right. With an "ON STAR" thingy stuck up his ass.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/11/2004 22:50 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Israeli leader orders construction of separation barrier to continue, despite court ruling
EFL, News
A defiant Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Sunday that Israel will keep building its West Bank separation barrier, despite a world court ruling that the system of fences, trenches and walls is illegal and must be torn down. In Tel Aviv, Palestinian militants blew up a bus stop with a nail-studded bomb hidden in roadside shrubs, killing a female soldier and seriously wounding five people. It was the first deadly attack in Israel in four months, and Sharon linked it to the ruling against the barrier, which Israel says is needed to stop such attacks. ``The decision sends a destructive message to encourage terrorism, and denounces countries that are defending themselves against it,'' Sharon said. He promised an all-out diplomatic offensive against the ruling. The Palestinians also began preparations for what they said would be a long diplomatic battle. Although the court decision was nonbinding, the Palestinians hope to push the United Nations to enforce the ruling.
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 3:08:27 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  typical excellent Paleo timing/judgement: they finally win a ICJ judgement that they could use as a cudgel, and they piss it away by demonstrating exactly why the wall is needed - they're barbarian savages who kill civilians, especially when it's Yassholes hard boyz doing it.
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 15:49 Comments || Top||

#2  muslims are filthy animals. FILTHY, STINKING ANIMALS! I'm telling you...they must ALL die.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/11/2004 16:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Right-f'inng On, Frank! The Paleos had a PR victory of sorts and they pissed all over it. Way to go, Paleos, ............morons.......
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 18:44 Comments || Top||

#4  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 07/12/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Pete you are an oxygen thief.
Posted by: Antiwar || 07/12/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Kashmir terrorists cut off nose, ears and tongue of 14 yr old girl
Suspected Muslim guerrillas sliced off the nose, ears and tongue of a 14-year-old girl in Indian Kashmir on Sunday, believing her to be an informer for the Indian army, police said. Mariam Begum was abducted by a group of militants from her house in Doda district south of Srinagar. "The abductee was let off by the terrorists. However her ears, nose and tongue have been chopped off," a police spokesman said. Rebels have in the past killed or maimed people who they believe are helping Indian soldiers put down the 15-year revolt in the Himalayan region.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 3:03:44 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  real nice group of ppl aren'tr they?
x
Posted by: smokeysinse || 07/11/2004 16:33 Comments || Top||

#2  muslims are filthy, stinking animals.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/11/2004 20:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Gee, I really want to support them now. Say, where is that nuclear weapon. There are vermin that need eradication.
Posted by: Remote Man || 07/11/2004 23:24 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraqi National Guard carrys out successful operation against terrorists
From Al-Sabah - Iraq the model has an eye witness account- naturally this was not reported by CNN, Wash Post, NYTimes, etc.
In an operation to attack dens of terrorism in Baghdad, a platoon of the Iraqi National Guard has carried out a successful operation Wednesday against groups of Saddam's remnants and a number of Al-Zarqawi followers who were gathered in four buildings in the said street.That operation comes as a practical indication to transfer the initiative of the attack to the hand of the National Guard." An accurate intelligence information reported a group of Saddam's men and Al- Zarqawi followers were crowded in four buildings in Haifa street " Mr. Hazim Sh'lan the minister of defense elaborated, adding that the operation started in installing search points in front of these buildings for instigating the hostile elements who thought they could control the battalion of the national guard.Clarifying the details of the operation, the minister said that the battalion was able to be sheltered and specify the hostile fire sources further for cordoning the four buildings in pure Iraqi efforts, saying that the multi –national forces took the role of the monitor by the helicopters.Fighting were occurred from floor to another, from flat to another, about 19 terrorists killed and nine others arrested.Meanwhile one member of the National Guard was killed and 12 others wounded.Among the prisoners and dead were a number of Arab infiltrators
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Africa: Subsaharan
Arab League urges UN against hasty sanctions on Sudan
The Arab League on Sunday urged the United Nations against slapping hasty sanctions on Sudan and pressed the world body to work with Khartoum to resolve the conflict in the western Darfur region. The league called on the Security Council to "give all possible support in implementing the agreement between the Sudanese government and the UN," in a statement. Earlier this month, Sudanese President Omar al-Beshir agreed to disarm militias, provide access for aid workers and hold political talks to defuse the crisis, following a visit by UN Secretary General Kofi Annan. The league pressed the United Nations "not be hasty in passing a resolution that would have the opposite affect of this agreement and the current efforts of the African Union (AU)" to ease the conflict in Darfur.

On Thursday, US Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sudan has little time to honor its pledge of immediate action to stop bloodshed in Darfur or face the wrath of global sanctions. He said a draft US resolution seeking sanctions on militia leaders behind the violence was being discussed with selected council members. The 22-member Arab league also called on Arab countries to join the ranks of an AU force deployed in the region, and welcomed steps taken so far by Khartoum to bring normality back to Darfur. The AU has said it plans to send a 300-strong armed protection force to Darfur, where it has already deployed observers to monitor a shaky ceasefire.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 1:17:57 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  translation: the cleansing isn't done yet. Let's start a commission
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||

#2  "Is is just me , or is it getting a little warm in here?"
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/11/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||

#3  We have been watching the Sudan debacle unfolding for many months on RB. It is popular now in the MSM because Iraq and Isreal and the Paleos are not yielding enough column inches or minutes of air time to satisfy the MSM. Pretty disgusting. The hypocracy of the MSM is what really gets to me.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 17:35 Comments || Top||

#4  (translation)
Arab League: Lets not be hasty now, after all it isn't holy Arab muslims who are being murdered, butchered, and raped......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/11/2004 21:43 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Bomb Explosion Damages School in Afghanistan
In Afghanistan, a bomb explosion has heavily damaged a primary school. Officials say the blast occurred in the Maywand district of Kandahar Province. No group has claimed responsibility for the attack. There were no injuries.
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22 journalists receive death threats from Islamist zealots
Twenty-two journalists -- 16 based in Sylhet, five in Barguna and one in Dhaka --received death threats apparently from Islamist militants yesterday. In the northeastern city of Sylhet, 17 journalists including one based in Dhaka received separate letters containing copies of a death threat yesterday from unknown source. The letters distributed by the divisional headquarters’ main post office asked the recipients to get ready to face death within a month. The threat under the heading ’Beware: Death Notice’ reads, "You journalists, who love the British high commissioner, Suranjit Sengupta, Mayor Badruddin Ahmed Kamran and the shrine [of Hajrat Shahjalal], are the enemies of Islam. Get ready -- you will have to die within a month." A smoking gun is drawn below the message. In the southern district of Barguna, Islamist zealots yesterday sent a death letter to Prothom Alo District Correspondent M Jasim Uddin for exposing their military training and the recent arrest of 33 militants during a drill. The letter carried a small piece of burial cloth. Local journalists took out a protest rally in the town yesterday.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/11/2004 12:26:57 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Big Clue: Time to start killing the Islamic extremists.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/11/2004 15:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Well how come the jurnos don't start killing them as self preservation! Oh never mind, I forgot they are jurnos.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 18:07 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Saudi insurgents turning up in Iraq
An increasing number of Saudis who crossed the border into Iraq to fight the U.S.-led military occupation are returning home to plot attacks against the Saudi government and Western targets in the desert kingdom, according to Western counterterrorism officials and Saudis with ties to militant groups. The Iraq veterans are serving as fresh recruits for an underground network in Saudi Arabia that, until recently, was led by an older generation of fighters that had trained in Afghanistan and was closely connected to al Qaeda and its founder, Saudi native Osama bin Laden. Many of those leaders have been killed or captured in recent months by Saudi security forces.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/11/2004 4:16:17 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dan, the headline should prolly read "Saudi Insurgents Returning Home From Iraq and Causing Trouble." The WaPo has a similar and very detailed story on page A1 today. As I read this article, it occurred to me that these fighters are now al-Q's "Individual Ready Reserve", leaving the theater of war (because it's getting harder to stay alive/free in Iraq?) to go home and take potshots at easier softer targets. The article was well done, except there is no reference in it to the fact that the House of Sod is complicit in this mess, rather than an innocent bystander.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/11/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#2  The real reason they are returning home is they know the Iraqi's won't be so nice to them when they get caught and they stick out like sore thumbs to the locals. Now that Iraqi security is "in charge" the beatings, torture and stuff that doesn't happen when the US forces get them will. Wahib does't want a electric anal probe administered by a practiced hand. So they are getting the hell out of Dodge.

Now they are "trained" the limpies in the Saudi branch of Osama and sons hope to use them in that kingdom. It is yet to be seen if these punkls will be anything more than a nusance that backfires on Osma with the public. After all they killed far more Iraqi citizens than "infidel crusaders." You can expect more of the same at home.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||


Four U.S. Marines Killed in Western Iraq
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Afghanistan/South Asia
Pakistan's Punjab centre for 'jehadi' recruitment
Even though the NWFP Pashtuns get all the attention, it is the Punjabis who make up most of the Pak Jihadis. However because the Army and ISI is dominated by Punjabis also, they seem to be easier to control than the Pashtun Jihadis.
In a disturbing development, Pakistan's Punjab province bordering India has emerged as the biggest recruitment centre for 'jehadis' in the country and Sindh is being rapidly converted into another major source for fighters. More than 50 per cent of 'jehadis' in Pakistan come from Punjab province alone. Around 8,000 of them have been killed so far fighting security forces in Jammu and Kashmir while another 4,000 have died in Afghanistan, according to a leading think-tank.

Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-e-Toiba has 29 recruitment centres in Punjab, Jaish-e-Mohammad nine and other outfits active in Kashmir, excluding Hizbul Mujahideen, 14 centres, Strategic Foresight Group says in its recent publication 'Pakistan's Provinces'. The sectarian group Sipah-e-Sahaba, also has 16 offices all over the province out of 28 in the entire country. The presence of over 5,500 religious seminaries has also given a boost to the recruitment of 'jehadis' from Punjab. Of these, 3,000 belong to the Deobandi school of thought, 1,500 are Barelvis, 800 Ahle Hadis and 120 are Shia seminaries. Even extremist religious party Jamaat-e-Islami, has 100 seminaries in the province, the think-tank says.
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#1  A Pakistani cabdriver from Punjab province was shot to death in his cab just outside of DC two days ago. I was watching the news and saying hmmm...
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/11/2004 12:31 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm tellin' you....we're going to have to rain fire down on these filthy muslim animals.....sooner or later. Unless we're all ready to change our way of life, or die. If we don't take off the gloves, if we don't commit to VICTORY, it's over folks.

Fuck the geneva convention....if only one side lives by it's "rules of war", it's useless. It ties the hands of those who believe in the rule of law. This is for keeps, folks. They know it.....we don't.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/11/2004 20:46 Comments || Top||


Cop who caught Khalid Sheikh Mohammad shot dead
A Punjab Police Station House Officer (SHO) Inspector, Raja Saqlain, and his nephew were shot dead by unidentified terrorists near Aamir Market in Rawalpindi on Saturday, police said. Inspector Saqlain, SHO of Westridge Police Station in Rawalpindi, and Altaf were coming out of their house in Afshaan Colony, Rawalpindi, when two terrorists riding a motorcycle opened fire on them. They died in District Headquarters Hospital, Rawalpindi. Mr Saqlain, who had arrested important members of terrorist organisations, has nabbed including Al Qaeda operational chief Khalid Sheikh Muhammad in 2003. City police placed barricades in several places in an attempt to catch the killers but to no avail.

Police sources said Mr Saqlain was on the hit lists of various terrorist organisations and had received several threatening calls. More than 10 police officials were usually deployed with him for security. He had busted several terrorist outfits and investigated several cases involving terrorist and sectarian violence. Police officers said the SHO had clamped down on culprits involved in the murder of five Iranian cadets in Rawalpindi in 1997. The accused in that case were active members of the defunct religious organisation Sipah-e-Sahaba. They said Mr Saqlain had also apprehended several terrorists involved in the diplomatic enclave church bombings in which six people, including three US diplomats, died. He also clamped down on those involved in the bombing of a hospital in Taxila and a missionary school in Murree. All the accused have been convicted and sentenced to death. Mr Saqlain brought acclaim to the Rawalpindi Police because of his performance, said Syed Murvat Ali Shah, district police officer of Rawalpindi, while talking to Daily Times. The SHO's funeral was held at Police Lines before his body was sent to his ancestral village for burial. A number of important people including District Nazim Tariq Kiyani and senior police officials attended the funeral.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 07/11/2004 8:48:23 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another victim of the Motorcycles of Doom™. Why do they hate us?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 12:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Good man down. My condolences to the family.
Posted by: Ptah || 07/11/2004 14:09 Comments || Top||

#3  We are going to have to instill fear to the very core of the Jihadis and their sympathizers to win. I hope that it is something not as heavy handed as the Russians, but it will have to be something that will deter the terrorists. Somewhere between Israel and Russian responses. Only trouble we are divided and fighting with one hand tied behind or back.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 14:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Fred---thanks for fixing. I was getting an error when going from preview to posting. Thanks for removing the mouse droppings....
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#5  thought you were stuttering :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Gee, you'd think they would omit, or maybe change the names, to protect the innocent.
Posted by: an dalusian dog || 07/11/2004 18:51 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
"I used to be against the fence, now I'm for it" (bus passenger)
Sami Mcarah, a 29-year-old Arab Israeli resident of Jaffo got off a bus at Tel Aviv's old bus station just minutes before a bomb went off on Sunday that killed one woman and injured 30 others. "I used to be opposed to the security fence, but now I support it," Mcarah told Israel Radio. "The terrorist had no intention just to hurt Jews, but he went out to kill as many people as possible. The Palestinians are stupid for what they're doing, they're not achieving anything and in the end they will only turn us Israeli Arabs against them," said Mcarah. Mcarah, wounded by shrapnel to his leg, said he rushed over to a woman he saw on the ground and tried to help her. He said he took her pulse but she was already dead, "The images in my head will never go away, although I feel lucky that I have a new life after surviving the second terror attack."

The attack is the second one Mcarah has been through. In 1995, Mcarah got off the number 5 bus on Dizingoff street just seconds before it was blown up by a suicide bomber. Mcarah is the chairman of a non profit organization called Equal Peace, that works toward creating equality between Arabs and Jews. He is married with 2 children and is a Chef at a restaurant near the old bus station where Sunday's attack took place.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 5:55:18 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ;-) I thought, from the title, that this was a Kerry comment
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 10:33 Comments || Top||

#2  You should have known better: Kerry has never taken a bus, not even a limo cheaper than a Cadillac.
Posted by: JFM || 07/11/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#3  and because this is a JeruPost article rather than an Al Jaz article, there is no chance that big media in the US will carry it.
Posted by: mhw || 07/11/2004 11:18 Comments || Top||

#4  He seems to be getting off busses at convenient times. Not leaving anything behind is he?
Posted by: Anonymous || 07/11/2004 12:27 Comments || Top||

#5  I just read this on the AP the big media will mention it, but quickly.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 14:59 Comments || Top||

#6  I just read this on the AP the big media will mention it, but quickly.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/11/2004 14:59 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Internal strife hits militants in Iraq
By Ian Fisher and Edward Wong
The New York Times
July 11th, 2004

Tension appears to be rising between the homegrown Iraqi resistance and the foreign Islamic fighters who have entered the country to destroy the U.S. military here. This is one reason, experts speculate, that Iraq has not had the kind of spectacular attack meant to spread terror and defy the U.S. agenda for a long two weeks, even during the transfer of formal sovereignty back to the Iraqis. Evidence has emerged in sniping between groups on Arabic television and Web sites, and in interviews with Iraqi and U.S. officials, as well as members of the resistance and people with close ties to it. All speak of rising friction between nationalistic fighters and foreign-led Islamists concerning goals and tactics, with some Iraqi insurgents indicating a revulsion over the car bombs and suicide attacks in cities that have caused hundreds of civilian deaths.

But such friction does not mean there is a "submission by the resistance," said Dhary Rasheed, a professor at the University of Baghdad who lives in Samarra, a center for the resistance. "It is a phase of reconstruction and re-evaluation in order to push the operations out of the cities," so as "not to have innocent people killed." Large car-bombings -- thought to be carried out more often by foreigners, who make up a small percentage of the insurgents -- have "disgraced the reputation of the resistance," Rasheed said. "And the resistance has worked just like the government has been trying to, to curtail the influence of the foreigners."
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 4:42:57 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  as Instapundit would say,

heh-heh
Posted by: mhw || 07/11/2004 9:03 Comments || Top||

#2  The NYT at its b.s.-addicted worst. "Routine violence continues at high levels across much of Iraq". High levels? Much of Iraq? Criminal activity, perhaps. But coordinated violence of a political nature?

Nearly half-way into July, there have have been 20 hostile-fire coalition KIA, of which only 3 occurred outside the Sunni Triangle. (data: http://icasualties.org/oif/) Funny, if the "resistance" is about US troops, and it's all over Iraq, why aren't US troops being effectively attacked .... almost anywhwere outside the Triangle?

You'd almost feel sorry for these NYT types (it's nearly universal among media folks), if they didn't have their pernicious platform. For example, the "experts" are wondering why there's been "no spectacular attack meant to spread terror and defy the U.S. agenda." WTF is "defy the US agenda" supposed to mean? Oh -- right. The US attempt to foster a representative, elective, civilized government at peace with its neighbors and using the country's vast resources for development, not exotic unconventional weaponry. The NYT can literally not bring itself to describe the change in Iraq accurately and objectively -- it just substitutes "US agenda". Hilarious!!

And there's more, this more in the category of Outright Distortion. "U.S. officials continue to hold sway". Oh, really? US officials are running the central bank (good job, boys, a stable currency, sure sign of underlying optimism and economic activity)? Or are they making decisions on emergency laws? Or allocating oil revenues? Or running education, health, public works, or the foreign ministry? Oh -- right. They're not. Iraqis are doing that.

I wonder if the NYT would be willing to expand that little astounding sentence for our edification? I'm aware there's close security coordination -- duh, there's an organized campaign of violence against public order -- but do US officials "hold sway" in any normal sense of the term?

These little distortions and lies are often not material to the topic at hand, but they give great insight into the analytical integrity and bizarre perspective of these "news" organizations.
Posted by: Verlaine || 07/11/2004 10:09 Comments || Top||

#3  "...between the homegrown Iraqi resistance and the foreign Islamic fighters who have entered the country to destroy the U.S. military here."

Been having good luck with that plan have ya, dimwits?
Posted by: mojo || 07/11/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Sudan and Chad agree Darfur moves
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 04:21 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Afghanistan/South Asia
Five Dead in Explosion at Afghan Station
By AMIR SHAH ASSOCIATED PRESS July 11th, 2004
A bomb exploded outside a police station in the western Afghan city of Herat on Sunday, killing five people and injuring at least 10 others, including a police officer, authorities said. Herat police chief Ziauddin Mahmoudi said a time-bomb concealed in a pile of garbage along a main road exploded near a building with shops on the ground floor and a police station on the upper floor.
Maybe they should consider taking all the Bad Boyz in jug and using them to clean up the piles of garbage along the roads...
The blast killed five people, including a young boy, and wounded 10, including one police officer, he said. Abdul Wahid Tawaqali, the deputy provincial intelligence chief, said five people were killed and 29 others were injured. There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the blast.
"I dunno! Wuzzat you, Ahmed?"
"It's the work of the enemies of Afghanistan," Mahmoudi said.
Either that, or people who're really indignant over the lack of sanitation...
The explosion occurred as a ceremony was being held elsewhere in Herat to mark the start of the disarmament of militia forces under a U.N.-backed program. U.N. spokesman Manoel de Almeida e Silva said the blast happened near a carpet shop three miles from the disarmament parade.
If it was three miles away, I doubt if it was connected...
Herat is considered one of the more stable provinces in the war-battered country and has been largely spared attacks by Taliban-led insurgents active in the south and east. Herat city is 360 miles west of the capital, Kabul. However, forces of the Afghan national army were deployed there in March after factional fighting killed 16 people, including a Cabinet minister
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 4:19:26 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If it was three miles away, I doubt if it was connected.

maybe one of Heks Boyz© threw it? They're renowned for their accuracy
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 11:15 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraqi gas pipeline sabotaged / Fresh Iraq violence leaves five dead
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Russia
Murder in Russia is latest in string of attacks on journalists
The drive-by murder of American journalist Paul Klebnikov in Moscow was the latest in a series of attacks on reporters and editors working in Russia. "Russia is consistently one of the world’s most dangerous places to be a journalist," said Ann Cooper, executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, noting that 14 journalists in Russia have been killed here in the last four years. None of the killers has been prosecuted, and Cooper said "this shameful record of impunity" and "the Kremlin’s indifference to press freedom" have created a murderous and dangerous climate for journalists. The group Reporters Without Borders also has described Russia as ""one of the world’s deadliest countries for journalists."

Klebnikov, 41, editor of the newly launched Russian edition of Forbes magazine, was killed by two gunmen as he left his office late Friday night. He was the first U.S. journalist to be murdered in Russia. Russian Prosecutor General Vladimir Ustinov has taken over the investigation into Klebnikov’s slaying, according to the Interfax news agency, and police have recovered the gunmen’s car. Slugs were recovered from the scene, confirming reports of two gunmen, but no other significant developments in the latest attack on a reporter. Journalists from Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty have been assaulted in recent months, and last week marked the one-year anniversary of the poisoning death of crusading journalist Yuri Shchekochikin. A former member of the Russian parliament, he had written about the possible involvement of Russian security agencies in a series of apartment bombings in Moscow in 1999, explosions that the government has blamed on Chechen terrorists. Two investigative newspaper journalists, Alexei Sidrov and Valery Ivanov, were murdered last year in the Russian automaking center of Togliatti. Both men were investigating corruption in the car industry, and a senior Russian official called Sidrov’s stabbing death "a deliberate act of terror."
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Africa: Horn
Systematic Slaughter Unfolds in Sudan
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 03:25 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  CIA, any chance of finding WMD there?
Posted by: Anonymous51129 || 07/11/2004 3:29 Comments || Top||

#2  The Sudanese Hard Boyz are the WMDS. It does not take sophistication to be an instrument or a weapon of mass destruction. Elementary, my dear Watson.
That is what pisses me off about ankle biters and small thinkers in the MSM and the Congress. They cannot see the big picture because they are too preoccupied with destroying the President.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 17:29 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
2nd UPDATE: 31 Wounded, 1 dead in South Tel-Aviv Bombing
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 03:16 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Most of the wounds were caused by metal shards packed into the explosives, Asner said.

Tel-Aviv mayor Ron Huldai said the bomb had been packed with metal bolts, and that several buildings in the immediate vicinity of the attack were damaged. Six Palestinians living illegaly in the country were arrested near the scene of the attack, Israel Radio reported. The six are undergoing interogation by the Shabak"

maybe exploding a bolt/nail laden bomb in the courtroom should've been Israel's Exhibit #1 in the ICJ court case?
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
The N.Y. Times on unilateral U.S. action: Sudan yes, Iraq no
Tell it Mayor Koch!
By Ed Koch
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, July 9th, 2004

The New York Times editorial page has repeatedly castigated President Bush for his willingness to go to war with Iraq because he continues to believe, as I do, that Iraq failed to account for weapons of mass destruction; that Iraq was an imminent threat to its neighbors and a foreseeable danger to the U.S.; that Saddam Hussein was a vicious despot who had tortured and murdered his own people and his neighbors using poison gas, among other terrible crimes; and that the removal of such a dangerous and oppressive tyrant would promote positive change in the entire region. The New York Times did not find any of these reasons sufficient for the U.S., Great Britain, and the coalition forces to wage war against Iraq without being authorized to do so by the U.N. So it was a surprise when The Times published an editorial on July 3, advocating unilateral action to relieve the human rights catastrophe in Sudan. Action against the Sudanese government is certainly warranted, but is it more warranted than the action we have taken in Iraq? Relevant excerpts from The Times editorial follow and are well worth reading:
"The growing disaster in the Darfur region of Sudan, which may have already killed as many people as have died in the fighting in Iraq over the last year and a quarter, demands that Secretary of State Colin Powell and the U.N. secretary general, Kofi Annan, go beyond the kind of welcome but government-manipulated visits we saw this week. Without tough and immediate actions by Washington and the U.N. Security Council, a half-million people or more could die before the end of the year from Sudanese government-sponsored attacks and the starvation and disease that inevitably follow."
It went on,
"Any illusion that Sudan's leaders are now prepared to act responsibly without being compelled to do so should have been dispelled by their cruel and cynical behavior during the Powell and Annan visits.

"The Bush administration has been far too timid in proposing punitive sanctions only for Janjaweed leaders. That remains the main thrust of a Security Council resolution that Washington is circulating. It would be much more effective to put direct pressure on the leaders of Sudan's government, who can shut down the attacks quickly.

"The Security Council remains divided between the Sudanese government's critics and apologists and has been unwilling to take strong action.

"If the Security Council still refuses to act, the United States, the European Union and the African countries that assert a claim to continental leadership, like Nigeria and South Africa, should work together to convince Sudan's leaders that their government will become a pariah if it does not stop what looks increasingly like genocide in Darfur."
If those measures do not accomplish the goal of protecting by some estimates one million people from genocide and thousands from enslavement, is there any doubt that The Times would endorse unilateral military action by the U.S.? I would.
Edward I. Koch, who served as mayor of New York City from 1978 to 1989, is a partner in the law firm of Bryan Cave.
(An honest Mayor of our city, and a good man, Ed Koch)

I'm not surprised. The NYT editorial board thinks that Bush isn't going to send troops to Sudan. It's an election year and the regular army divisions are resting and re-equipping in anticipation of the next fight, probably with Iran. Sudan at this point would be a distraction. If Bush were to actually say, "Yeah, let's do it!" and send the 101st and the 82nd to kill all the janjaweed and chase Bashir and Turabi and their minions out of the country, the Times would be the first ones to holler about the indiscriminate slaughter of innocents. The "Arab" ethnic cleansers would suddenly turn black and it'd be a "racist war." And of course Sudan does have all that oil, so it'd be all about that. I put the Times position down to posturing.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 3:12:47 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes well the French vetoed any action in Suadan while they extract oil. Did the NYT comment on this?
By the way Silent Running has a good post on French unilateral behaviour


Down here "French kiss" means something different.

It is worth a read for anyone too young to remember how the French ran rough shod over New Zealand's national integrity in their quest to explode as many nuclear charges in the Pacific.
Maybe it will open some eyes?
It would be nice if the Hypocritcoq came home to roost.

Can anyone get Kerry's "position" on this? When it comes to oil the French get very slippery!
Posted by: Cynic || 07/11/2004 8:22 Comments || Top||

#2  I think if we armed and trained the Fuhr to fight the Arabs and gave them minimal air cover, the Arabs would be beaten badly and quickly.

Of course, the problem with this is the Arab countries would scream and the rest of the Islamic world would also be against it. The black African world would be publically neutral even if privately positive and the Euros would be tut tut.

The NY Times would condemn it of course.
Posted by: mhw || 07/11/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#3  I would like the NYT to comment on the differences between Iraq and Sudan that justify a studious discretion in the case of the former but immediate intervention in the latter. I want to see just how intellectually dishonest they can be.
Posted by: Billy Hank || 07/11/2004 13:27 Comments || Top||


U.S. finds Sudan-militia links in ’cleansing’ of black non-Muslims
The United States has determined that Sudan provided major military support to the Janjaweed militia, accused of expelling 1.2 million black Africans from their homes in the western Darfour province. Two U.S. delegations sent to Sudan in late June examined the link between Janjaweed and the Khartoum regime. They were said to have concluded that the Sudanese military provided training and equipment to Janjaweed as part of Khartoum’s policy to remove black Christians and other non-Muslims from Darfour, which neighbors Chad. A congressional delegation that returned from Sudan this week said the Janjaweed was directly supported by the military.
They coulda read Rantburg and save the bus fare...
Delegates said Janjaweed fighters participated in Sudanese Air Force attacks on black African villages in Darfour as well as led ground attacks that resulted in the death of at least 30,000 people and the displacement of 1.2 million people. Rep. Frank Wolf, a Republican from Virginia, recounted testimony he heard regarding the coordination between the Sudanese air force attacks and Janjaweed raids of black villages. Wolf told a July 6 news conference that a Janjaweed base in Darfour was adjacent to the Sudanese air base at Geneina in Darfour that contained two Soviet-origin attack helicopters and an Antonov air transport. "The militiamen we saw did not look like skilled pilots who could fly planes or helicopters," Wolf said.
"They looked like the local yo boyz..."
Delegates said the Antonovs and helicopter gunships usually strafed and bombed villages to prepare for the Janjaweed assault. They said Janjaweed fighters arrived on horseback and camels to kill, loot, rape and burn. The Janjaweed have been heavily armed and well-supplied, U.S. officials and congressional members said. They were provided with satellite phones to maintain constant communications with Sudanese military commanders.
"Babes! We got babes down here! Youse guys want some?"
"Lemme land this thing!"

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Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 3:08:49 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  CIA, any chance of finding WMD there?
Posted by: Anonymous51129 || 07/11/2004 3:27 Comments || Top||

#2  It's possible since there we trucked into Syria 1st and Lebanon 2nd, who knows where some may have been 'shipped'.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 4:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Aren't there 15,000 M60 series tanks in storage? Let's take a few hundered out of mothballs and give them to the black Sudanese. Chase the Arab invaders all the back back into Arabia.
Posted by: ed || 07/11/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Honest question (no snark intended): I thought the blacks were muslim. The headline says they are not. What gives?
Posted by: Zpaz || 07/11/2004 11:22 Comments || Top||

#5  yes, they're not part of the Arab Master Race
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Lets see - anyone out there claiming to be looking for real injustice that needs to be brought to the public's attention? Maybe a book or movie?

Paging Mr Chomsky, Mr Moore...

Nah, didnt think so.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/11/2004 12:14 Comments || Top||

#7  Also still waiting for the outrage from the Arab Street (TM) over the slaughter/rape of their Muslim brothers and sisters... *crickets chirping* Where are Saeb Erekat and Atom Ant when we need them?
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/11/2004 12:20 Comments || Top||

#8  The Janjaweed have been heavily armed and well-supplied,

Good to see the U.N. food supplies are being put to use.....

As I understand it the blacks are, for the most part, Muslim. However, remember, Islam considers 'arab' muslims as being 'holier', 'better', or 'more equal' then non-arab muslims -- which explains why the 'arab street' isn't in an uproar.

Remember that the State department (Powell) recently came from Sudan with a 'Peace in our time' document -- that should fix everything up (just as soon as all the blacks are killed or raped of course...).
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/11/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#9  No comment here, Antisemite? Or has your Arab supremacist boyfriend kicked the crap out of you in honor of Qaradawi's visit to Britain?
Posted by: BMN || 07/11/2004 12:58 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
UPDATE: Tel Aviv blast: 1 dead, 20 wounded
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 02:57 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Israeli bus explosion wounds 10
An explosion has rocked an Israeli bus near the central bus station in Tel Aviv, Israel radio reports, and emergency workers say around 10 people have been wounded. It was not immediately clear what caused Sunday's explosion, which came two days after the World Court ruled that Israel's West Bank barrier is illegal. The head of emergency medical services Yossi Cohen in Tel Aviv told Israel radio that it was possible that the explosion went off at a bus station -- next to, and not on, the bus. Magen David Adom emergency services said most of the injured were only slightly wounded.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/11/2004 2:36:52 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Arabs to UN: Act on Israeli Barrier
BBC - EFL
UN told to act on Israeli barrier
Saturday, 10 July, 2004, 17:49 GMT 18:49 UK
Arab nations have called on the UN to take action to ensure Israel's West Bank barrier is torn down. The UN General Assembly is likely to meet next week to debate the world court's ruling that the barrier is illegal and should be dismantled. Israel has said it will ignore the non-binding ruling and is counting on the US to block any action by the UN. Israel insists the barrier is needed to prevent suicide bombings. Palestinians consider it a land grab.
More deep UN morality at work.
Posted by: .com || 07/11/2004 1:35:43 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Go ahead, UN, make my day....
Posted by: Capt America || 07/11/2004 1:37 Comments || Top||

#2  hmmm the Paleos must not read RB in sequence...bad timing, assholes
Posted by: Frank G || 07/11/2004 1:38 Comments || Top||

#3 
Arabs to UN: Act on Israeli Barrier
I've got a better idea.: Israel (and the US) to the Arabs and the UN: Fuck you.

And the camels you rode in on.
Posted by: Anonymous5673 || 07/11/2004 1:53 Comments || Top||

#4  A5673 - Barbara, is that you? You've lost your cookie!
Posted by: .com || 07/11/2004 1:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Why does not the US boycott all Arab’s goods? Slamming sanctions on them will surely teach them a lesson on how to respect the west and its friends.
Posted by: Anonymous5889 || 07/11/2004 2:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Because, 5889, other than oil the Arabs don't make anything that we want to buy. Remember, if you exclude oil the 22 Arab states have a combined GDP lower than that of Finland. And we all know what an economic juggernaut Finland is.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/11/2004 2:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Israel needs the wall. Fuck the icj, u.n, france, saudi arabia, iran, syria, mexico...... FUCK 'EM ALL
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/11/2004 2:26 Comments || Top||

#8  The UN could put pressure on the Olympic Org and not let Israel march in the opening ceremonies.

They could be very aggressive with the red card during the futbol tourney. The could even refuse to allow them security. Thats it! Refuse to allow them security.

Olympic glory, could there ever be anything to compare?
Posted by: Lucky || 07/11/2004 14:39 Comments || Top||

#9  For the longest time I've felt there is a place for the UN, just not in the political spectrum. Since Sept 11 the UN has been trying to convince me they have no place in the world at all. I think this little story will be the death knell for the UN as far as my support is concerned.
Posted by: Yank || 07/11/2004 18:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Yank, I have felt the same way, from a young person with the idealist view of the UN. Now I think that they are lowest of the low. We need bilateral agreements on critical matters of international importance. Then we need to dry up the UN funding and they will die in a month. End of story. We need to quit funding our destruction. This includes ME oil and this includes the UN. ME oil is the tough one. The UN is easy. Congress can make it happen.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/11/2004 18:49 Comments || Top||

#11  send em packin...let them set up shop in europe and become league of nations II
Posted by: Dan || 07/12/2004 18:43 Comments || Top||

#12  AP, Getting rid of our dependance on ME oil could be much easier if we were permitted to drill in the USA (Alaska, etc....).

Instead we have these insane environmental policies which are strangling us. Extinction is a natural process....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/12/2004 19:23 Comments || Top||

#13  I think the UN should really act... I mean this just CALLS for a set of brand new forms...
Posted by: True German Ally || 07/12/2004 19:26 Comments || Top||

#14  CrazyFool---I can feel your pain! This ANWR thing drives me nuts. The Republicans need to take the Dems position on anti-Anwar and turn it into an albatross hanging on the Dems' necks. I was working in communities along the Trans Alaska Pipeline last week, and as I was flying by the line, I could not help thinking that ANWR oil should be flowing down there right now. There is no reason that it should not be so.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 07/12/2004 19:42 Comments || Top||


Breaking: Tel Aviv hit by rush-hour blast
One person has been killed and at least 14 others injured in an explosion in the Israeli city of Tel Aviv. Initial reports say the blast was caused by a small explosive device that went off at about 0700 local time (0400GMT) in Har Zion Street. It comes after several months of relative quiet in the state of Israel.
Surely more will follow...
Posted by: .com || 07/11/2004 1:28:53 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's stick the freakin' ICC judges and UN idiots in an Israeli school bus and parade them in front of Hezbollah and Hamas, trolling for terrorists -- they should get a BANG out of that.
Posted by: Capt America || 07/11/2004 1:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Update:
The blast happened next to a bus stop in Har Zion Street at about 0700 local time (0400GMT), during the rush hour.

Tel Aviv's police chief Yossi Sedbon said the explosion was caused by a "device" and was not the work of a suicide bomber.

The militant Palestinian group, al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, has reportedly said it carried out the attack.
Posted by: .com || 07/11/2004 1:51 Comments || Top||

#3  But completing the barrier wouldn't have stopped this, nope, nope, extend your necks just so so as to make the job of the executioner easier ...
Posted by: Steve White || 07/11/2004 2:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Click the link - just added an update with more info.
Posted by: .com || 07/11/2004 2:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Move the fence a few miles further out and clear out any Palestinians with artillery. Eventually they will get the idea or the fence will be on the Jordan river.
Posted by: ed || 07/11/2004 10:58 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Afghan scholars 'back disarmament'
Must be true because Aunty 'says so'.
Religious scholars have called on the people of Afghanistan to give up their weapons and end the rule of the gun, Afghan radio has reported. The radio said the call had been issued during a meeting of the Afghan Ulema Council in the capital, Kabul. Plans to disarm militias have fallen behind schedule, and election workers have been attacked. A statement from the council said the time had come to rescue society from its abnormal condition. More than two decades of war had "established the rule of gun as a way of life".
Prior to that it was the rule of the sword.
It called on Afghans to support the government and take part in a nationwide disarmament programme launched in May. "Religious scholars should encourage people in cities and villages to surrender their weapons," it added. The BBC's Andrew North in Kabul says that even holding a presidential poll will be a major challenge against a background of rising insecurity in the country. There have been delays in the voter registration programme - so far, six million out of 10 million potential voters have been registered. Nato currently has some 6,500 troops engaged in peacekeeping duties in the north and west of the country. It recently said it would provide more troops for the elections. But many Afghans argue that the Nato troops are based only in the relatively safe parts of the country.
Well sure, you don't expect the French to go where it's dangerous, do you?
Posted by: Steve White || 07/11/2004 12:09:53 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Do these alleged scholars know Greek? "Molon Labe."
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/11/2004 2:07 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
Georgia separatists fuel tensions
Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili has warned Russia not to give military support to separatists in the breakaway Georgian region of South Ossetia.The territory split from Georgia after the collapse of the Soviet Union, but the Georgian leader has vowed to bring it back under central authority. Peace talks between Russia, Georgia and South Ossetia ended in failure this week amid growing tension. Four Georgian soldiers were wounded in the latest fighting on Saturday. Violence broke out when separatist forces opened fire at Georgian troops in an ethnically-Georgian village in South Ossetia.

South Ossetia broke away from Georgia in the early 1990s after a war that followed the collapse of the Soviet Union. It claimed independence from Georgia and wants to join North Ossetia, which is ethnically similar and part of Russia. Russia has accused Georgia of raising tensions in the region. And this week, South Ossetia came close to renewed hostilities when separatists detained a group of Georgian peacekeepers for 24 hours, forcing them to their knees in a humiliating display that was broadcast on Georgian television. It came after Georgian troops impounded two Russian lorries which were carrying military equipment to the region. Russia, which jointly patrols the region with Georgian and South Ossetian troops, said the arms were needed for peacekeeping purposes. The Georgian president on Saturday issued a sharp warning to Russia not to get involved in armed conflict. "if Russia gets involved in an armed conflict with Georgia we will be prepared for anything," Mr Saakashvili said, according to Interfax news agency. "We will wipe out anyone who comes into Georgia with a sword."
Wonder if the Russians would fight better here than in Chechnya?
Russia does not formally recognise the South Ossetian government but has close contacts with the leadership. Most residents in the region have Russian passports and the Russian currency, the rouble, is widely used. Senior government officials in Russia and the US have appealed for calm. US Secretary of State Colin Powell discussed the situation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, while Mr Saakashvili spoke by telephone to Mr Powell and Russian President Vladimir Putin. Western governments are concerned about the events in the region, where construction of a multi-billion dollar oil pipeline, strongly backed by the US, is nearing completion.
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Sun 2004-07-11
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Sat 2004-07-10
  Forbes (Russian edition) editor shot dead in Moscow street!
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  Al-Tawhid threatens to kill Bulgarian hostages
Thu 2004-07-08
  Missing Marine at U.S. Embassy in Beirut
Wed 2004-07-07
  5 dead in LTTE suicide bombing
Tue 2004-07-06
  Iraqi boomer kills six 14 at funeral
Mon 2004-07-05
  Hussein family funding the insurgency
Sun 2004-07-04
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Sat 2004-07-03
  Iraqi oil-for-food investigator bumped off
Fri 2004-07-02
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Thu 2004-07-01
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