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2022-05-20 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Inside the Hunt for Russia's ‘Fourth Man' Within the CIA

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Posted by Besoeker 2022-05-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 so the guy got away with it?

Posted by i forgot it 2022-05-20 00:20|| 2022-05-20 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 #1 so the guy got away with it?
Posted by: i forgot it 2022-05-20 00:20

...That's a definite 'maybe'. Angleton's paranoia got to the point where the Agency was chasing its own tail and starting to enter paralysis. If there was a Fourth Man, it's possible he was able to cover himself with the general disdain everybody had for Angleton by the end of his career, and went on his merry way knowing that nobody would ever bear down on him again unless he made a world-class error.

On the other hand, nobody knows for sure if there was a Fourth Man - Howard, Ames and Hanson did enough damage by themselves to account for a half dozen moles.

Mike

Posted by MikeKozlowski 2022-05-20 11:51|| 2022-05-20 11:51|| Front Page Top

#3 Pelton and Walker also come to mind for that era for the magnitude of damage they did.

My father was an Angleton peer over at State in the early 60's and once said he was a wrecking ball to work with.

As an aside, the link below has a long list of spies and hypertext links to each story.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-05-20 12:15|| 2022-05-20 12:15|| Front Page Top

#4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_spies#Spied_for_USSR

Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-05-20 12:15|| 2022-05-20 12:15|| Front Page Top

#5 Well, I know Harry Lime is the Third Man.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-05-20 12:31|| 2022-05-20 12:31|| Front Page Top

#6 "Zithers! Why is it always zithers?"

Posted by SteveS 2022-05-20 12:58|| 2022-05-20 12:58|| Front Page Top

#7 "B-r-e-n-n-a-n"

Posted by Frank G 2022-05-20 13:51|| 2022-05-20 13:51|| Front Page Top

#8 @#2 - I've seen reports that Ames and Hanssen revealed more than 15 all of whom were executed. I ordered Baer's book n will gladly send to an interested Rantburger after my perusal.

Posted by Bangkok Billy 2022-05-20 18:20|| 2022-05-20 18:20|| Front Page Top

#9 /\ Thanks Billy, we'll be watching for your assessment. Are you down under yet?

I sent you an email about an author fellow you might want to look up. Don't know if you caught it or not. His name is Dave George. Hereis his link.

Posted by Besoeker 2022-05-20 18:23|| 2022-05-20 18:23|| Front Page Top

#10 ^ Yes - looking at the Opera House and Harbor Bridge right now. 3 weeks in and still getting settled.

I vaguely remember something about your guy. Boer War history if recall?? Rule 303 comes to mind...

Posted by Bangkok Billy 2022-05-20 19:13|| 2022-05-20 19:13|| Front Page Top

#11 ^ Very nice, BB

Posted by Frank G 2022-05-20 20:00|| 2022-05-20 20:00|| Front Page Top

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