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2012-10-23 -Election 2012
Final Debate - Everybody Wins!
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Posted by Bobby 2012-10-23 05:42|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6498 views ]  Top

#1 Far too tame. The comment by Willard on the isolation and "treatment" of diplomats of the former apartheid government of SA was revealing, disappointing, and an unstudied denial of very unsavory historical outcomes. Israel had no stronger friend on the continent than that of South Africa. Unfortunately, that friendship was long ago jettisoned by the ANC in favour of a total embrace of Islam.

I would also make sure that their diplomats are treated like the pariah they are around the world. The same way we treated the apartheid diplomats of South Africa.

Politico transcript.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-10-23 06:50||   2012-10-23 06:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Horses & bayonets? Factual statement that there are fewer than 1915, but the tone is like nails on a chalkboard.
And ships that go underwater? They are ones that were sunk by the undersea boats.
Posted by Glenmore 2012-10-23 08:01||   2012-10-23 08:01|| Front Page Top

#3 Horses & bayonets?

Those of us old enough remember the civil disturbances of the late 60s/early 70s. The AZ National Guard conducted an 'on site' experiment with crowd control. Troops were deployed without bayonets, with bayonets but sheathed, and with cold steel [bayonets exposed]. It was only in the latter instance that crowds would back off from the guardsmen. It is still in the inventory for a reason. As for horses, didn't they just unveil a monument to modern horse soldiers recently?
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-10-23 08:47||   2012-10-23 08:47|| Front Page Top

#4 Easy on the Champ. He was as well and simply wishing he were elsewhere; possibly teeing off at the Bayonet and Black Horse on Monterey Bay.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-10-23 08:57||   2012-10-23 08:57|| Front Page Top

#5 [bored as well...]
Posted by Besoeker 2012-10-23 08:59||   2012-10-23 08:59|| Front Page Top

#6 we still fix bayonets. KABARs still get issued w/every M-4 or M-16 in the USMC inventory as a bayonet attachment. We still do bayonet drills in our MCMAP system. The Brits did a bayonet charge a while back in one of the sand boxes. Champ is good at semantics w/out substance and comments w/out a context.
Posted by Broadhead6 2012-10-23 09:38||   2012-10-23 09:38|| Front Page Top

#7 British bayonet charge in BASRA.

Country: United Kingdom
Branch: Army, 16th Air Assault Brigade
Type: One of six Scottish line infantry regiments
Role: Air assault-Light role
Motto: Nemo Me Impune Lacessit

No One Assails Me With Impunity
Posted by Beavis 2012-10-23 10:08||   2012-10-23 10:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Obama's debate strategy was nothing more than a series of talking points. One of the commenters at Ace of Spades summed it up this way:

Big Bird -- Biden -- Binders --Bayonets
Posted by Sherry 2012-10-23 10:29||   2012-10-23 10:29|| Front Page Top

#9 Final fight scene from We Were Soldiers.

Crossroads, Band of Brothers film series.

Simple, well known pop culture references that bayonets did not go out of style after WWI. Heck, back before I started a family there is no telling how many times I was virtually bayonetted in various video games, even hand out award points in some.

Crude submarines go back to the 18th century. First naval aviation strike, 1914 Japan vs. Germany.

If he was trying to show his prowess of military matters, it came off like somebody lecturing me on hand washing when he has toilet paper stuck to the bottom of his shoe.
Posted by swksvolFF 2012-10-23 11:58||   2012-10-23 11:58|| Front Page Top

#10 I felt sort of blah watching the debate. I kept noticing Romney missing opportunities to attack. The morning commentaries seem to indicate that Romney's strategy worked as only those already decided were bothered by his approach.

Still, we'll never know what the numbers might have been if he'd really gone on the offensive on a number of things instead of letting Obama avoid answering on Russia and allowing a pass on Libya, etc.
Posted by rjschwarz 2012-10-23 14:47||   2012-10-23 14:47|| Front Page Top

#11 I am hopeful he'll work over those opportunities on stump speeches. Which maybe Fox will cover.
Posted by Bobby 2012-10-23 15:28||   2012-10-23 15:28|| Front Page Top

#12 Barry squirmed around Russia again (did so in '08 but one could presume a lack of knowledge; this time around though...).

I had the SF/STL game on mute. They were showing a replay and I faded out from IIRC a question about Pahkistahn and come back in, he was talking about math teachers.
Posted by swksvolFF 2012-10-23 16:35||   2012-10-23 16:35|| Front Page Top

#13 Still, we'll never know what the numbers might have been if he'd really gone on the offensive on a number of things instead of letting Obama avoid answering on Russia and allowing a pass on Libya, etc.

A good executive knows how to delegate. Have you checked out the ads the Rs are running today? No coincidence they attack where Romney was more judicious.
Posted by lotp 2012-10-23 20:29||   2012-10-23 20:29|| Front Page Top

#14 I would have liked an actual fistfight, but that would have been a win the battle/lose the war scenario. Romney appeared presidential, unlike that other guy. And as lotp says, he has other forces to send on the attack missions.
Posted by SteveS 2012-10-23 21:34||   2012-10-23 21:34|| Front Page Top

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