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Manning hearing: defence lawyer turns fire on military accusers
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Posted by Steve White 2011-12-17 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [528 views ]  Top

#1 Oh boy. Trying lawyerly razzle-dazzle before an Article 32 hearing is just begging for the lawyer to be flogged. Military courts have zero respect for that b.s., and everybody appearing before them be they defendant, accuser or attorney, have about the same standing.

Oddly enough, I wouldn't give Manning the death penalty for this. Instead a guaranteed life sentence at Leavenworth.

That prison is almost unique, because all that can be seen are the trustees, who had been real violent and disruptive troublemakers, are wearing orange jumpsuits, and quietly and efficiently doing very humble work on post.

But you never hear how they became that way. There are no stories about what life is like on the inside at Leavenworth.
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-17 08:26||   2011-12-17 08:26|| Front Page Top

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-12-17 08:31||   2011-12-17 08:31|| Front Page Top

#3 No bias in reporting, eh Grauniad?
Posted by Pappy 2011-12-17 12:08||   2011-12-17 12:08|| Front Page Top

#4 I would gladly volunteer to be called out of retirement to sit on Manning's court martial.

Of course, since I would recommend the death penalty before any evidence was presented, the defense would probably not be very happy.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2011-12-17 16:05||   2011-12-17 16:05|| Front Page Top

#5 Manning's lawyer seems to think he's in civilian court. Or else he's showboating for the lefty press and anti-Army bloggers who donated that money he is making. The case will be tried on what Manning did or didn't do, as shown by the evidence presented. Not on the character of the judge or prosecution, nor on how well he can point fingers everywhere in an effort to draw attention away from the fact that his client broke the oath he swore upon enlistment, and further breaking the bounds of his security clearance oath, as they will no doubt show that paperwork with Manning's signature and the UCMJ penalties cited quite clearly therein; there will be no denying that he knew he was violating the law and that he did so by planning beforehand, in full knowledge of the criminality of his acts - and that he did so repeatedly.

Manning should go the way of John Walker and join him in lifetime prison without parole - preferably in USDB Leavenworth (or in Florence Colorado in the SuperMax there)
Posted by OldSpook 2011-12-17 17:17||   2011-12-17 17:17|| Front Page Top

#6 Old Spook -

Sir, I think you might be on the right track - I think his lawyer is showboating for the dinks who paid the bills, but only because he knows that that Manning's defense is Blackadder Dead: "As dead as a...great big dead thing." Most civilian lawyers, even the most left-wing liberal types, know that the military justice system is far more honest and straightforward than the civilian one, and that there are a lot of games that just don't fly.

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2011-12-17 18:40||   2011-12-17 18:40|| Front Page Top

#7 The defense lawyer is doing all of this to set up his inevitable appeals to the civilian courts.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2011-12-17 22:11||   2011-12-17 22:11|| Front Page Top

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