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2011-12-10 Home Front: Politix
Palestinians tell Gingrich to learn history after 'invented people' claim
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Posted by tipper 2011-12-10 13:48|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 The whole area was called the 'Levant' after the Ottomans relinquished the area to Britain and France. The British called their southern portion of this area 'Palestine'. Everyone living in the area was called a 'Palestinian', be they Arabian, Canaanite, Persian, or Hebrew.

The ancient Egyptians called this southern Levant area 'Peleset' and the Greeks called it 'Philistia'.

More history of the area here.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2011-12-10 14:16||   2011-12-10 14:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Thanks, Mullah Richard! Very interesting link. One point jumped out at me:
1200 BC The Danya, or Danites, are either the dispossessed previous owners of the territory now occupied by the Philistines, or fellow Sea Peoples. The Philistines seem to bear them a particular grudge and they are forced to move inland where they apparently join the Israelite confederation of tribes.

From previous reading on another subject I was researching, the Sea Peoples and the Israelite tribe of Dan intermingled, with ancient traditions and legends saying Dan "departed with ships" and sailed with a pharoah's daughter to the coastlands of Eire and 'Danmark', possibly locating one of the Lost Tribes in modern Ireland and Denmark. Hiram King of Tyre, one of the Phoenician Sea Peoples sailed ships for Solomon, bringing back babboons and other exotic goods, with some archaeological accounts placing them as far away as South America off the coast of Brazil/Guyana, as there is apparently an inscription near Paraibo in Phoenician claiming to have been blown off-course when in Africa! Palestinians have been holding that grudge for a very long time, with an equally long history of marauding. Gingrich is right, they can always choose to live in Lebanon or Gaza, their historical roots, or live peacefully among the Israelis or go most anyplace they want to. Newt also said he would choose John Bolton as his Sec. of State....
Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2011-12-10 16:15||   2011-12-10 16:15|| Front Page Top

#3 Gingrich should pursue this further, and actually light a fire under the Paleos, by suggesting that for all intents and purposes, those living in Israel have made themselves a "stateless people", but those living in Egypt and Jordan are effectively "de facto" citizens of those countries.

Thus, if Israel decides to expel the Paleos into Egypt or Jordan, the problem would be solved, in that the Paleos would be returned to their former nations and thereafter be called Egyptians and Jordanians.

(Imagine the utter dog-stroke that would happen in some quarters were Gingrich to do this.)
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-10 16:48||   2011-12-10 16:48|| Front Page Top

#4 Because everyone was championing the Paleo cause before the '67 war. Not. It's right there next to long established history of Kwanzaa.
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-12-10 17:35||   2011-12-10 17:35|| Front Page Top

#5 there were no Paleos. Newt's right. You were either Transjordan, Egyptian, or Lebanese.
Posted by Frank G 2011-12-10 19:05||   2011-12-10 19:05|| Front Page Top

#6 As far as I am concerned, the current crop of "Palestinians" can go fuck right off and die.
Posted by DarthVader 2011-12-10 19:38||   2011-12-10 19:38|| Front Page Top

#7 ". . . and they had the chance to go many places."

Not really. The "Palestinians" were/are such a pain in the a$$ that nobody would have them. The only reason they're Arab "brethren" will have anyting to do with them is to encourage them to be a thorn in Israel's side so they can keep The Distraction alive.
Posted by gorb 2011-12-10 20:26||   2011-12-10 20:26|| Front Page Top

#8 Gingrich was asked about this specifically at the Debate tonight, look up his answer. It was a home run of epic proportions.
Posted by Charles 2011-12-10 22:23||   2011-12-10 22:23|| Front Page Top

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