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2010-02-02 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by Fred 2010-02-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 They won't leave. No matter how much we beg them.

Posted by Secret Master 2010-02-02 00:11|| 2010-02-02 00:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Let them go after they pay the rest of us for federal property in VT, and OF COURSE assume their full per capita share of the National Debt. More nattering from the Free Lunch Party.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-02-02 01:45|| 2010-02-02 01:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Interestingly some lefties want to secede because the federal government isn't large and instrusive enough while some on the right want to secede because the federal government is too large and intrusive. Which merely illustrates, once again, the genius of the Founding Fathers and their recognition of the necessity that the federal government be of very limited scope & able to exercise only very limited powers, no?

Posted by AzCat 2010-02-02 01:49|| 2010-02-02 01:49|| Front Page Top

#4 Something in the water possibly? They are downstream from Quebec.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-02-02 03:52|| 2010-02-02 03:52|| Front Page Top

#5 Reading "news" from the Iran Press TV is as entertaining as reading "The Onion" except the Iranians are actually serious about the propaganda. The Iranians must have hired some old, out of work PRAVDA or Isvestia reporters from the CCCP in 1991.

Posted by Thromorong Johnson8241 2010-02-02 06:45|| 2010-02-02 06:45|| Front Page Top

#6 I go to Norwich University, a military college about 15 minutes from the VT state capital. We make jokes about having to march on Montpelier in the event that VT declares independence.

VT secessionists are nothing new.

Posted by Bisa 2010-02-02 07:40|| 2010-02-02 07:40|| Front Page Top

#7 Not only are going to New Hampshire, but South Carolina, Oklahoma, and New Mexico, and Texas, and Delaware, and Washington D.C., then we're going back to Montpelier to take back the State House.

YgggarhaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Posted by Besoeker 2010-02-02 07:52|| 2010-02-02 07:52|| Front Page Top

#8 To Thromorong Johnson8241: which propaganda outlet do you enjoy more , the 'PressTV of Iran, or those of which are reported by the US MSM??
The above article was from "Time". Today's other US stories they report include "Autopsy- FBI shot Muslim prayer leader 20 times" and also includes a poll: "What is the main reason behind the decline in President Obama's popularity". BTW, the correct answer is leading in the poll, hands down.

Posted by Tom- Pa 2010-02-02 08:04|| 2010-02-02 08:04|| Front Page Top

#9 First objective in the Granola coup: seize the ~~TV station~~ Ben & Jerry's plant.

Posted by ed 2010-02-02 09:12|| 2010-02-02 09:12|| Front Page Top

#10 Naylor said, Vermonters would not be "forced to participate in killing women and children in the Middle East."

Mighty hifalutin of this Naylor clown, but I'm from Chicago, and I don't see anything about forcing them to participate in killing in the Middle West! Who are these laconic warmongers?

Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2010-02-02 09:36|| 2010-02-02 09:36|| Front Page Top

#11 If you truly wanted to secede you'd get all of your like-minded folks to move somewhere small and isolated, not one of the original colonies. Imagine if all those folks in Vermont moved to the US Virgin Islands or something. They could dominate the population and do what they wanted. Us Virgin Islands might not allow emigration but you get the point. Libertarians should move to Alaska which is geographically isolated and already very libertarian in outlook.

Posted by rjschwarz 2010-02-02 10:17|| 2010-02-02 10:17|| Front Page Top

#12 One of the reasons for secession talk, right and left, is that the bureaucratic class in the Beltway forgets the name of the place is the United States of America and that it means something. Push come to shove, the Constitution allows three quarters of the small states to tell the one quarter big states and the Beltway to stick it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-02-02 11:14|| 2010-02-02 11:14|| Front Page Top

#13 If you truly wanted to secede you'd get all of your like-minded folks to move somewhere small and isolated, not one of the original colonies. Imagine if all those folks in Vermont moved to the US Virgin Islands or something. They could dominate the population and do what they wanted.

Hey, go for it. They are slaughtering innocent women and children in Paradise, too. Incidentally, Vermont is the whitest state in the union and the VI is predominately black. Might not go over to well to start "doing what they want" but they can put their concerns over violence into action. Virgin Islands homicide rate was almost ten times the national average in 2009. During 2009, the homicide rate in the territory was 51 people out of every 100,000. The territory's total population is only 110,000, a number akin to some of the U.S. mainland's smaller municipalities. The U.S. murder rate is 5 for every 100,000 people. And, while the national trend, which includes the country's biggest cities, shows a 10 percent decline in homicides, here it is on the rise.
"It is an all-time record," V.I. Police Commissioner Novelle Francis Jr. said. In all, 35 lives were lost to homicide on St. Thomas, 20 were killed on St. Croix and one person was shot down on St. John.
In 2009, most homicides were by firearm. Some people were stabbed to death. But those slain were not all criminals or statistics. Each untimely death had its own story.

Posted by Lumpy Elmoluck5091 2010-02-02 12:26|| 2010-02-02 12:26|| Front Page Top

#14 Two things:
1) Vermont is upstream from Quebec, not downstream, Besoeker. The watershed flows northward towards the St. Lawrence.

2) Vermont isn't one of the original 13 colonies, rjschwartz. New England farmers who settled/squatted in the disputed lands between the colonies of New York & New Hampshire banded together under Revolutionary War hero Ethan Allan & seceded from New York during the war, forming the so-called "Vermont Republic" or "Republic of New Connecticut". It eventually became the fourteenth state.

This latter point is why Vermonters are so fond of the whole secession thing - like Texans, they harbor a certain crankish affinity for threatening to take their ball and go home.
I suppose they pine for that decade or so of independence from the rest of the polity.

Posted by Mitch H. 2010-02-02 15:52|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/ 2010-02-02 15:52|| Front Page Top

#15 Lest we fergit, 1990's OIL STORM + NET > the UNITED SOCIALIST REPUBLIKS/STATES OF AMERIKA.

Yokay, yokay, I'll bite, NORDE AMERIKA!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-02-02 18:24|| 2010-02-02 18:24|| Front Page Top

#16 WHAT MAKES THESE VERMONTERS , etc. THINK THAT DOMINANT ISLAM-HAPPY/CENTRIC OSAMA + SOON-TO-BE-NUKULAAR-IFF-NOT-ALREADY RADIC ISLAM CARE IFF VERMONT IS A US STATE OR A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY.

What the above care about is Vermont being a ISLAMIZED, SHARIA-CENTRIC, MUSLIM STATE.

Among other, 9-11 + WOT = WAR FOR CONTROL OF THE WORLD = WAR FOR OWG-NWO thingy = WAR FOR ANTI-US, PRO-US OWG-NWO, ...........

D *** NGED "OTHER THINGYS"!

CHINA wants GUAM-WESTPAC, HAWAII, + MINIMA 1/2 of CONUS-NORAM for future "LIVING SPACE", + the ISLAMIST JIHAD IS UNIVERSAL-GLOBAL, aka WORLD-WIDE, NOT MERELY LOCAL, REGIONAL, OR TRANS-REGIONAL despite [Perts] PCorrect rhetoric to th contrary.

Running off to the NORTH POLE for forever won't save you nor stop Osama + Burqua Boyz nor stop the Battle for the World + OWG-NWO.

The only question is whether CHINA will achieve its goals before RADIC ISLAM takes over CHINA + CHIN'S NUKES, or LARGE PARTS OF SAME + RUSSIA'S + INDIA'S + SAMOA'S + ........................@.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-02-02 18:42|| 2010-02-02 18:42|| Front Page Top

#17 wish all of the USA could be divided into the Socialist and Capitalist camps...no commerce allowed between them.

Posted by HammerHead 2010-02-02 19:13|| 2010-02-02 19:13|| Front Page Top

#18 What if Vermont seceded and nobody noticed?

Posted by DMFD 2010-02-02 19:26|| 2010-02-02 19:26|| Front Page Top

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