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2004-10-04 Home Front: WoT
Polls finds one in four Americans with anti-Muslim views
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Posted by Fred 2004-10-04 8:57:19 PM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [401 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 What the hell's the matter with the rest of us?

They have been sold the ROP BS by Bush and MSM. One more attack and the gloves come off. I'm sure Bush has told the Soddies and Perv that and that's part of why they play ball. Probably reminded them of what we did to the Nazis and Japanese from a standing start in less than 4 years.

Besides, this is a CAIR study so they found nothing to bitch about. Too bad for them.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-10-04 9:19:50 PM||   2004-10-04 9:19:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Hmm. When they scream "Allah Akbar" and kill someone it has nothing to do with Islam? Gosh really. I must be confused.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2004-10-04 9:21:38 PM|| []  2004-10-04 9:21:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Did I miss the question about how many Muslims here have anti-American views? I'm guessing way more than one in four.
Posted by VAMark 2004-10-04 9:56:52 PM||   2004-10-04 9:56:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Shouldn’t the title be:
Poll finds one in four Americans aware of what threatens our existence and way of life
Posted by cingold 2004-10-04 10:02:03 PM||   2004-10-04 10:02:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 should be 50-75% unaware of threat
Posted by Frank G  2004-10-04 10:05:59 PM||   2004-10-04 10:05:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 "They have nothing to do with Islam. People claim they are doing it for Islam, but it's really in spite of Islam," Ahmad said.

I call bullshit. They (the terrorist) are the embodiment of the Islamic religion - murder, rape, killing in the name of allah, lying to infidels to advance the the killing and rape (this is what CAIR is doing), and death.

The only reason more americans are not anti-muslim is that we are truely tolerant and most either have not heard the true nature of islam ( see MSM covering for their allies the terrorists's raping and murdering of children ) or simply are unable or unwilling to understand that there *is* evil in the world and its name is Islam.
Posted by CrazyFool 2004-10-04 10:12:32 PM||   2004-10-04 10:12:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Polls finds one in four Americans with anti-Muslim views

Yelling "Christian dog" before cutting someone's throat, is not exactly positive reinforcement, on Islam's part.
Posted by Poison Reverse 2004-10-04 10:20:01 PM||   2004-10-04 10:20:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I wonder how the survey was conducted?

Akbar: "Hello, this is Allen from CAIR, a Muslim
organization based in the US"

Joe: (Average American who doesn't know
enough to distinguish CAIR from Hamas
or Al Q, red flags go up all over).
"We're having dinner, what do you want?"

Akbar: "Do you think our religion teaches violence
and hatred?"

Joe: (Thinking to himself, yes I do but I'm not
telling you)

Call Ends .....

Joe: "Sally, be right back. Going to Walmart for
a case of shotgun shells"


So, I think the survey means about 25% of us
already have our shells ;-)
Posted by Beau 2004-10-04 10:20:43 PM||   2004-10-04 10:20:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Count me among the 25% that feel they bring a lot of hate to the table. I would feel differently if they would denounce just one attack on civilians. I am not talking about CAIR, I am talking about the local Imman. The one near us think that we cheat our god because we only attend church on Sunday. Like we walk out the door and completly forget about the sermon or ten commandments. Stepping up and calling a spade a spade would do a lot to help relations. I mean really demouncing it, not just some droning statemnet wher they affix blame to many people and then condem the act.
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-10-04 11:17:34 PM||   2004-10-04 11:17:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Salman Rushdie writes a book, and the Muslim clerics fall all over themselves saying such a deed is so evil, all Muslims must kill him. But where is the fatwah against Osama bin Laden or the brutal child-murderers of Beslan? I'm looking for more than pronouncements to the western press that Islam is a religion of peace. Time for any truly peaceful Muslims to start denouncing the savages as forcefully and publicly as they went after Rushdie.
Posted by Major Domo 2004-10-04 11:19:58 PM||   2004-10-04 11:19:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 ROP or ROTS?

(Religion of Peace OR Religion of Throat Slitters?)

You Decide.
Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-10-05 12:20:54 AM||   2004-10-05 12:20:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 But where is the fatwah against Osama bin Laden or the brutal child-murderers of Beslan?

Major Domo, I asked this same question within weeks of the 9-11 atrocity. "Where is the death fatwah against bin Laden for desecrating all Islam with his atrocities?

The reply I got from some very learned (non-Arabic) Islamic scholars was that moderate Islam has no wish to imitate the jihadis by issuing such terminal edicts.

Now is the time to call "BULLSHIT."

If Islam wants to remain intact, they had better begin declaring death sentences against those who defile their faith. If not, silence is consent.

It sounds all well and fine that no one wants to assume the same violent motif against others, until you consider that Islam is about to be melted down by nuclear annihilation if they do not take substantial measures against those who commit atrocities in its name.

Time to fish or cut bait, Islam. Which is it?
Posted by Zenster 2004-10-05 12:24:06 AM||   2004-10-05 12:24:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Major Domo, here is the exact text of what I wrote back then. I've yet to get an acceptable answer:

After giving Islam the blackest of eyes, I have yet to see any Muslim cleric or council issue a fatwa seeking the death of bin Laden. If anybody is aware of this please post a link. I have seen nothing of the sort in any news, anywhere. As so many Arab Muslims proclaim unwarranted persecution subsequent to the 9-11 atrocity I remain amazed at a profound dichotomy in a lot of their rhetoric.

It has been claimed by Muslim anti-American elements that the 9-11 atrocities were actually implemented by the United States or Jewish subversives, seeking some pretext for a purge of Islam's followers. Yet, in the same breath many of these same people also say, "America had it coming..." One cannot have it both ways. Was this a non-Arab conspiracy or terrorist atrocity?

Such sanctimonious attempts to make both claims at once perfectly expose the hypocrisy and overarching malignancy of this sort of mentality. Osama bin Laden's evil acts have so tainted the global perception of Islam that one would think several fatwas would have been issued already. A death fatwa, like that decreed against Salman Rushdie, would be one of the few concrete actions to persuade world opinion that bin Laden acted against all Islamic principles.

It is impossible not to believe that many fundamentalist Muslim clerics and practitioners maintain the dichotomous precepts mentioned above. The complete absence of any Islamic death warrant against bin Laden stands as stark testimony to the undercurrent of retribution sought by these fanatics. The deafening silence of so many Muslims concerning the apprehension and trial of bin Laden for his crimes constitutes a tacit approval and utterly contradicts their cries of unwarranted persecution.
Posted by Zenster 2004-10-05 12:31:22 AM||   2004-10-05 12:31:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 If the choice is between the common good, what is just, what is legal and moral and denouncing a fellow muslim. The fellow muslim is more important. It an article of islamic faith. This is why Islam can not be trusted.

It has nothing us hating islam. I refuse to be consumed by something that will eat my soul. However can you trust people who put coreligionists no matter how evil, criminal and, vile ahead of what is good, moral and correct? How can you trust that?
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2004-10-05 1:10:36 AM|| []  2004-10-05 1:10:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Just 25%?
They called too many Democrats.
Posted by tu3031 2004-10-05 10:01:52 PM||   2004-10-05 10:01:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Polls find three in four Americans lying to pollsters.
Posted by ed 2004-10-05 10:03:40 PM||   2004-10-05 10:03:40 PM|| Front Page Top

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