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2010-09-17 Home Front: Culture Wars

General calls Christian soldiers 'bigots'

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Posted by Anonymoose 2010-09-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Oh for a day in the real soon now where this sort of utterance from ANY gummint employee results in immediate confinement until EVERY gummint dollar the utterer ever collected is rebated to the bigoted taxpayers...

Posted by M. Murcek 2010-09-17 00:36|| 2010-09-17 00:36|| Front Page Top

#2 Since he is a field grade officer, such a pronouncement could be taken as "Conduct unbecoming an officer", and "Conduct that promotes disrespect for the uniform". It also is a violation of 1st Amendment rights, and if any chaplain wants to make a name for himself, he should file a formal complaint against the general.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2010-09-17 00:46|| 2010-09-17 00:46|| Front Page Top

#3 You get the type of officers you recruit and groom. Obviously he is the desired target product.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-09-17 05:25|| 2010-09-17 05:25|| Front Page Top

#4 The law is made by Congress per their power under Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution, which this individual is having a hard time understanding. The history behind that authority, specifically written into the document goes back to the English heritage of the Founding Fathers and the English Civil War a little over a hundred year prior. Here's the present excerpt from Title X USC.

This man's comments about the body of soldiers demands nothing less than his retirement. This man is a prime example of a political hack administrator, colloquial term - careerist. You lead, you do not manage men in war.

"Unfortunately, we have a minority of service members who are still racists and bigoted and you will never be able to get rid of all of them,"

I dare you to change the policy with the provision that with this major change in conditions of employment, that any member has the right to request termination of contract within 90 days of the implementation of the policy. Regardless of location, those service members will be returned to a point of separation in the United States and discharge for honorable or general service upon penalty to any member of the command who obstructs or delays said separations. Those service members retain their veteran benefits and entitlements earned.

Anyone in their right non-PC mind would never allow it because they know what the result would be on military and combat effectiveness of our forces. So, put up or shut up dude.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-09-17 08:17|| 2010-09-17 08:17|| Front Page Top

#5 The military is very predictable about implementing social conditioning, because, oddly enough, it is the ultimate "socialist" organization. Completely hierarchical, with no equality at all. Instead they shoot for frivolous uniformity to create the illusion of equality.

First, the change is ordered. Then, when compliance is minimal, offensive indoctrination is ordered. Then subordinate leaders are ordered to do what is necessary to accomplish compliance. Then negative reports are ignored or punished. Then full compliance is reported, even if compliance remains minimal.

The tragic part of this is that it does erode combat effectiveness, unit morale, and even costs the lives of soldiers, who are regarded as "collateral damage" to the importance of the new policy.

Examples include forcing women to be combat fighter pilots from such a small pool of possible recruits that many were incapable, physically and intellectually, to perform the task. That is, though they failed their pilot training, they were passed anyway, to make "quota".

And so some of their planes crashed, and they died.

But, in the infantile minds of their civilian overlords, it was a small price to pay to achieve "equality", even if it defeated the military mission.

In the case of putting homosexuals in the ranks, the very blunt end result will be homosexuals being murdered. And despite endless indoctrination sessions and groupthink, homosexuals will continue to be murdered.

Fortunately, commanders are smart enough to come up with another reason, any other reason, that they were killed, other than their sexuality, thus protecting themselves and their units from collective punishment.

Eventually, homosexuals will only be assigned to safe desk jobs, far away from their unit, shuffling paper to no end. Their military importance will be zero, but they will still accomplish the mission of the civilian overlords, "proving" that homosexuals can serve in the military.

As such, they will be of even less importance than Muslim service members, who might actually have a real job.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-09-17 09:52|| 2010-09-17 09:52|| Front Page Top

#6 "Unfortunately, we have a minority of service members who are still racists and bigoted and you will never be able to get rid of all of them,"

Spoken like a true leftist. Perhaps we'd be better off cleansing the military of leftist fascists.

Posted by Black Charlie Chinemble5313 2010-09-17 10:36|| 2010-09-17 10:36|| Front Page Top

#7 First rule of being a leader:

Don't disparage your troops.

Second rule of being a leader:

Lead by example.

This SOB has violated both.

Posted by DarthVader 2010-09-17 11:12|| 2010-09-17 11:12|| Front Page Top

#8 Doesn't matter what the big brass want, the troops will have their way in this. It's THEIR asses on the line, not General Derision...

Posted by mojo 2010-09-17 12:21|| 2010-09-17 12:21|| Front Page Top

#9 Christian soldiers as compared with what other religions? Kind of like a "you people" statement.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-09-17 14:57|| 2010-09-17 14:57|| Front Page Top

#10 Just first impressions:
The guy looks like he'd be quite happy sailing the seven seas with a crew of butt-pirates aboard the USS ManHandler.

I don't doubt he has issues with the policy, never known a fag that couldn't help telling everyone in the room he was GAY, no matter the circumstances.

Posted by bigjim-CA 2010-09-17 22:06|| 2010-09-17 22:06|| Front Page Top

#11 Before you get the pitchforks and torches out, you might want to check out:

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=13894

Posted by Lone Ranger 2010-09-17 22:30|| 2010-09-17 22:30|| Front Page Top

#12 So is it more MSM spinning or is it what he really said the defense.gov note is just his cover backside story? Any taped recordings of this lecture?

Posted by miscellaneous 2010-09-17 23:00|| 2010-09-17 23:00|| Front Page Top

#13 CYAWP. Nah, never happens in the military. /s

...before several hundred troops at the European Command headquarters in Stuttgart, Germany

Shouldn't be too hard to verify.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-09-17 23:55|| 2010-09-17 23:55|| Front Page Top

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