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2004-05-26 Fifth Column

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Posted by Korora 2004-05-26 11:56|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I realize the need to keep bandwidth down, but is it really necessary to post links without giving the slightest hint of what the article's about? I never click those. Er, except for this one.

This is about British Tories' sympathy for some of Moore's ideas, specifically,

There is the belief that American politics is shaped by evil special interests (oil barons, neoconservatives, evangelicals); a preference for "sophisticated" European policies over "simpleminded" American ones; and, above all, a loathing for George W. Bush.

The traditional British conservative is not equivalent to a Republican. Traditionally, these guys still harbor a warm spot for Empire, even if these days we have do without an Empress. They're rightist elitists, rather than your new-fangled leftist elitists. Just see Max Hastings for any further information you may require. (Or this article. The second page really gets to the root of the matter.)

Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-05-26 12:57:53 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2004-05-26 12:57:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 This must be a really odd political environment. Blair is our strongest ally in the Iraq war and war on terror in general, but domestically in the UK he is more like Kerry. But the Conservative opposition doesn't like our Iraq policy, but is more like Bush domestically. But wait, three of the top four Conservative leaders are Jewish. And they are more PACIFIST than Blair.

If any political intrigue author came up with this scenario, they'd put him in a padded cell.

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-26 1:22:27 PM|| 2004-05-26 1:22:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Yup. The British Tories have their panties in a wad because the uppity colonials aren't deferring to the Arabists among them. And really - BUSH? from TEXAS? and he actually EARNED his money??? (Okay, with help from friends of the family, but it's oh so tacky to run a sports team or whatever .... and he has one of those tacky MBAs from Harvard! You won't find self-respecting Tories learning THAT sort of thing.)

Poor things .... the smoking room at their club musgt need airing out these days.

Posted by someone 2004-05-26 1:39:04 PM|| 2004-05-26 1:39:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Tories are therefore Conservative in the old sense of the word.

Then again, they might have more in common with the "Country Club Republicans" who held sway during the 40-odd years of Democrat rule of Congress.

Posted by eLarson 2004-05-26 1:47:27 PM|| 2004-05-26 1:47:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Or as I call them, monarchists?

(While roaming the Freeper religion forum, I cam across an anti-Bush AND Kerry rant by a "Christ the King" type that bashed Kerry for being an apostate, but also Bush for being a Protestant and a Bonesman ...)

Posted by Edward Yee 2004-05-26 5:59:48 PM|| [http://edwardyee.fanworks.net] 2004-05-26 5:59:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Interesting! The 20th century was an aberration and we go back to the politics of the 19th century. Liberals (in the UK sense of the term) who believe in progress and improving things and Conservatives who don't want change or believe it is generally a bad thing.

Posted by Phil B 2004-05-26 6:36:49 PM|| 2004-05-26 6:36:49 PM|| Front Page Top

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