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2009-04-02 Science & Technology
Is man's "carbon footprint" causing sun spots to disappear?
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-04-02 09:22|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top

#1 The changes so far are not enough to reverse the course of global warming
They had to put that in somewhere even though the main point of the article is that we don't understand the sun very well. I wonder how many climate change models have solar input as a constant?
Posted by Spot">Spot  2009-04-02 10:25||   2009-04-02 10:25|| Front Page Top

#2 While they're at it, perhaps they can explain just how CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere could possibly affect the fusion reations in the sun's interior.
Posted by Mike 2009-04-02 10:54||   2009-04-02 10:54|| Front Page Top

#3 I wonder how many climate change models have solar input as a constant?

All of them. As a constant constant.

But none consider this chain of effects: less solar activity, less solar wind, more incident cosmic rays (particles, actually), more cloud seeding, higher albedo, less energy reaching the troposphere and below.
Posted by KBK 2009-04-02 10:55||   2009-04-02 10:55|| Front Page Top

#4 The main pint I get is:

They don't know shit about climate.
Posted by DarthVader 2009-04-02 12:06||   2009-04-02 12:06|| Front Page Top

#5 Mike:

Exactly right. This is scaremongering aimed at those with no knowledge of science whatsoever.
Posted by Iblis 2009-04-02 12:06||   2009-04-02 12:06|| Front Page Top

#6 The last couple of times we had prolonged periods without sunspots were the Dalton and Maunder Minimums - little mini ice ages.
Posted by SteveS 2009-04-02 13:26||   2009-04-02 13:26|| Front Page Top

#7 KBK

I love it when you talk dirty with that atmospheric and meteorological language.
Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-04-02 13:48||   2009-04-02 13:48|| Front Page Top

#8 While they're at it, perhaps they can explain just how CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere could possibly affect the fusion reations in the sun's interior.

Why the same way the CO2 levels in Earth atnosphere cause Global Warming on Mars and Venus silly!
Posted by CrazyFool 2009-04-02 14:17||   2009-04-02 14:17|| Front Page Top

#9 While they're at it, perhaps they can explain just how CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere could possibly affect the fusion reations in the sun's interior.

It just does when you wish for it hard enough. Now click your heels three times.
Posted by ed 2009-04-02 14:53||   2009-04-02 14:53|| Front Page Top

#10 Send somebody up there to check it out. Better send them at night though...
Posted by tu3031 2009-04-02 15:41||   2009-04-02 15:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Missed this one this morning, must have been busy drying my feet from the snow footprint.
Posted by swksvolFF 2009-04-02 17:10||   2009-04-02 17:10|| Front Page Top

#12 I don't think they are quite saying C02 has caused this solar minimum. But they sure are missing the point KBK makes. It is perhaps the biggest of the many problems with these politicized climate models.

My favorite sign of ignorance was when the tsunami was blamed on our climate policies. That one did happen.

The thinking that KBK applies, which includes 2nd and 3rd order effects, acknowledges uncertainty and involves complex interactions is beyond the mental ability of the typical environmental leftist. Their motivations range from raw emotion so a sort of retro-pagan religion in which the Hansens of the world are high priests. They lack historical knowledge, logic and basic understanding of the 'scientific method.'

The only good side to the current economic downturn I see is that there might be a lot less support for their marxist policy solutions to poorly understood climatic phenomena.
Posted by JAB 2009-04-02 19:49||   2009-04-02 19:49|| Front Page Top

#13 "The only good side to the current economic downturn I see is that there might be a lot less support for their marxist policy solutions to poorly understood climatic phenomena."

'Fraid not, JAB.

The high priests and acolytes around the globe have already said that global recession/depression is no excuse to abandon their policies to put the rest of us in the poorhouse while they live high on the hog "save" earth. >:-(
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2009-04-02 21:11||   2009-04-02 21:11|| Front Page Top

#14 Yeah, Republicans driving SUV's are causing the Red Spot on Jupiter to shrink, too.
Posted by DMFD 2009-04-02 21:17||   2009-04-02 21:17|| Front Page Top

#15 SO-called "ALIEN AUTOPSY"???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-04-02 21:20||   2009-04-02 21:20|| Front Page Top

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