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2006-01-06 Iraq

Shi'ites issue warning over Iraqi violence

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Posted by Dan Darling 2006-01-06 00:17|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I swung by Iraq the Model and he is sereously depressed something I really dont think is a good sign especially with this news too.

I think this is a all out push by AQ after all the other day the Sunni delegation had stated that the violence could be ended and I would imagine the Sunni's know who and were the AQ are and with the Gov would make short order of AQ. If AQ fails in detering a coalition Gov they know thier death is garanteed so this is a Do or Die for them.

The tanker debacle I gota admit really pisses me off. Their is no excuse for that that many tankers in convoy is just to jucy to ignore we should have had a rapid reaction force trailing and some overheads waiting to spring the trap. The not mentioned enemy losses tells me they got the better of the situation which means a repeat is garanteed if we had spung a trap we mave have lost some tankers still but the enemy cost would mean no repeat strike.

Posted by C-Low 2006-01-06 00:52|| 2006-01-06 00:52|| Front Page Top

#2 I think the brothers at Iraq The Model are Sunnis and they realize the hammer is about to come down on the Sunnis from the newly elected government. Whoever preciently referred to 'Mosul as the largest city in Iraqi Kurdistan' understood it will start at the margins of Sunni dominated areas. Look for the Kurds to take over operations in Mosul with the full backing of the central government.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-01-06 01:19|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-01-06 01:19|| Front Page Top

#3 what goes around, comes around. It's too bad, though, as they would all be better off if they worked together as Iraqis. I claimed from the get-go that it would never work and they should just set up three separate states that could work towards their own benefit - but began to pleasantly believe I was mistaken. Besides, I came to understand that it wasn't possible just to draw up borders on a napkin and have them stick. The Sunni's refusal to cooperate and their willingness to support AQ in the beginning will end up being their own undoing. Shia's now have enough power that they want us out so they can greedily gobble up even more power, but they don't seem to have the tools to handle it without lapsing into your typical Islamic cesspool of backstabbing and self-interest. When we go, and we will, the border lines will start to draw themselves. The Shia are stupid if they don't share power with the Sunnis as the Sunnis will fight to get it back, and I suspect they will be more effective than the Shia, in achieving it. Additionally, the Iraqi Shia - now granted greater powers aren't going to want to share their power with the Iranians who will want to treat them as royal subjects to their crown. Tea anyone?

Sunni's better make short order of AQ faster, or the idea of three separate countries will soon be a reality - with the Sunni's getting the very short end of the stick.

My hope is that cooler heads and mutual interests will prevail. Good luck Iraq - you need it.

Just as a rambling aside, you would think at some point the Muslim countries would get a reality glimpse that working with Americans, instead of against them, tends to provide for a greater good in the long term. But they just seem intent on doing things the good old fashion 7th Century hard way.

Posted by 2b 2006-01-06 06:26|| 2006-01-06 06:26|| Front Page Top

#4 I really do know how to use an apostrophe.

Posted by 2b 2006-01-06 06:33|| 2006-01-06 06:33|| Front Page Top

#5 An apostrophe with my tea? Why, yes, thank you, 2b! An a bit of milk, too, if you've got any... ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2006-01-06 07:17|| 2006-01-06 07:17|| Front Page Top

#6 "the hammer is about to come down on the Sunnis from the newly elected government"
Does Michael Moore know what's going to happen to his minutemen?

Posted by plainslow 2006-01-06 10:26|| 2006-01-06 10:26|| Front Page Top

#7 What's sad is that just a few complete lunatics can have such an effect at this point. The greater problem is the use of violence within Islam. (the religion of peace)

Posted by wxjames 2006-01-06 10:56|| 2006-01-06 10:56|| Front Page Top

#8 As I mentioned in a thread the other day, it is time for the Iraqi Shiites to renounce the hyper-violence and terrorism so popular with the Iranian Qom based fanatics.

If they are able to draw a distinction between Iraqi and Iranian conduct, they might finally have a chance to point the finger at Sunni terrorism. So long as all parties involved continue to embrace mass murder and mindless slaughter as diplomatic tools, they should only look forward to ~~rotting in hell~~ nothing more than further bloodshed.

For once, Iraq's Shiites have the upper hand. If they use this new found power merely to entrench age old hatreds and rivalries they will reap as they sow. If they are capable of rising above their historic enmities and rejecting terrorism, it will give them the moral authority to exercise military prosecution of Al Qaeda and other Sunni backed violence.

The prospect of an Arab nation rejecting terrorism is probably too much to hope for. Yet, the alternative is so grindingly savage and downright barbaric that it is hard to imagine how they could welcome the continuation of such insanity. Unfortunately, sanity is not something the region is particularly known for.

In closing, if they are unable to renouce terrorism then they are welcome to continue murdering each other to the last man. Should they choose that course, I will lose any sense of pity and merely look forward to a time when they exhaust the world's patience and are exterminated wholesale.

Posted by Zenster 2006-01-06 13:55|| 2006-01-06 13:55|| Front Page Top

#9 A question to fellow ranters:
Is there any evidence that the Iranians were involved?

It looks like the killings would not be in the Sunni's interest, and if it was AQ, he's made alot of new Sunni enemies.

It also looks like the bombings and attack on the oil convoy were better thought out and executed than either the Bathists or AQ have shown lately.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2006-01-06 15:11|| 2006-01-06 15:11|| Front Page Top

#10 I think AQ. Even these cavemen can learn from their other experiments and improve their product. And, since Zark has displayed an ability to mutate like a chameleon, it follows that AQ would make effective adjustments.

Posted by wxjames 2006-01-06 16:06|| 2006-01-06 16:06|| Front Page Top

#11 If folks think the US has been hard on the jihadis, just wait until the Iraqi Army and Police get turned loose.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2006-01-06 17:22|| 2006-01-06 17:22|| Front Page Top

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