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Africa North
Obama and Hillary's Statements on Libyan Atrocities
some highlights

Obama: "... While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants."

Hillary: "...Chris was one of the first Americans on the ground in Benghazi. He risked his own life to lend the Libyan people a helping hand to build the foundation for a new, free nation. He spent every day since helping to finish the work that he started. Chris was committed to advancing America's values and interests, even when that meant putting himself in danger."
Posted by: lord garth || 09/12/2012 09:12 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
’2016: Obama’s America’ Docu Slammed By President’s Campaign As “Lies” - D’Souza Response
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/12/2012 09:13 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For some reason my AVG grabs the link, blinks the webpage, and sends me to 'Oops Page not Found'. However, if I go through the main page to the article, the web page article remains stable.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/12/2012 9:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Lies? Much of the damn thing was recorded in Champ's own voice! Must be my lying eyes... and ears. Comforting that his standing as a Foreign Affairs expert is not in question.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/12/2012 9:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Watched that film last weekend. Thought it was surprisingly even-handed and reasonable. More like Jonah Goldberg and less like Ann Coulter than D'Souza usually is.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/12/2012 10:04 Comments || Top||

#4  "Lies? Much of the damn thing was recorded in Champ's own voice!"

Exactly. Champ knows what he's talking about here.
Posted by: Iblis || 09/12/2012 10:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, shouldn't the Champ know his own lies better than anyone else?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/12/2012 10:20 Comments || Top||

#6  Champ to step out into the rose garden in a few minutes. I'm sure he'll "reaffirm" our goal to see Lybia, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, Egypt, Magic Kingdom, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bharain, Iran, Congo, Sudan, Zimbabwe..... become Peoria's of the Middle East and Africa.

Get out and stay out!
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/12/2012 10:30 Comments || Top||

#7  Obama is hoping to push the meme that this is a partisan hack-job and give folks a rational not to see and learn for themselves. This sort of thing works because most Americans don't have the time and are unwilling to challenge their preconcieved notions.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/12/2012 10:38 Comments || Top||

#8  Wow dude. So 1984.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/12/2012 11:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Of course they would say it was lies. I saw the movie. It seem to square with the little that is known about Obumble. I thought they were too kind to Obumble. They didn't mention his proclivity for lying, manipulation, coercion, and stealing elections.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/12/2012 15:39 Comments || Top||


-Election 2012
Russian Ships Displayed At DNC Tribute To Vets
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On the last night of the Democratic National Convention, a retired Navy four-star took the stage to pay tribute to veterans. Behind him, on a giant screen, the image of four hulking warships reinforced his patriotic message.

But there was a big mistake in the stirring backdrop: those are Russian warships.

While retired Adm. John Nathman, a former commander of Fleet Forces Command, honored vets as America’s best, the ships from the Russian Federation Navy were arrayed like sentinels on the big screen above.

These were the very Soviet-era combatants that Nathman and Cold Warriors like him had once squared off against.

“The ships are definitely Russian,” said noted naval author Norman Polmar after reviewing hi-resolution photos from the event. “There’s no question of that in my mind.”

Naval experts concluded the background was a photo composite of Russian ships that were overflown by what appear to be U.S. trainer jets. It remains unclear how or why the Democratic Party used what’s believed to be images of the Russian Black Sea Fleet at their convention.

A spokesman for the Democratic National Convention Committee was not able to immediately comment Tuesday, saying he had to track down personnel to find out what had happened.

The veteran who spotted the error and notified Navy Times said he was immediately taken aback.

“I was kind of in shock,” said Rob Barker, 38, a former electronics warfare technician who left the Navy in 2006. Having learned to visually identify foreign ships by their radars, Barker recognized the closest ship as the Kara-class cruiser Kerch.

“An immediate apology [from the committee] would be very nice,” Barker said. “Maybe acknowledge the fact that yes, they screwed up.”

The background — featured in the carefully choreographed hour leading up to the president’s Sept. 6 speech accepting the Democratic Party’s nomination — showed four ships with radar designs not used in the U.S. fleet.

For example, the ship in the foreground, on the far right, has a square radar antenna at the top of its masthead. That is the MR-700 Podberezovik 3-D early warning radar, commonly identified as “Flat Screen” for its appearance, a three-dimensional early warning radar mounted on the Kerch, said Eric Wertheim, editor of “Combat Fleets of the World.”

Similarly, the third ship has a MR-310 “Head Net” air search radar, shaped like two off-set bananas, at its masthead and is mostly likely the guided missile destroyer Smetlivyy. The first two ships seem to be Krivak-class frigates, but it’s hard to discern from the silhouette, experts said.

But the fact they are Russian ships is not in doubt. In addition to the ship’s radar arrays and hulls, which are dissimilar from U.S. warships, the photo features one more give-away: a large white flag with a blue ‘X’ at the ships’ sterns.

Polmar, who authored “The Naval Institute Guide to the Soviet Navy,” recognized the blue ‘X’-mark: “The X is the Cross of St. Andrew’s, which is a Russian Navy symbol,” Polmar said. (An anchored U.S. warship, by contrast, flies the American flag on its stern.)

Based on this specific group of these ship types, one naval expert concluded that this was most likely a photo of the Black Sea Fleet.

“Ships are all Black Sea Fleet,” A. D. Baker III, a retired Office of Naval Intelligence analyst, told Navy Times after looking at the image. “These four ships, at the time the photo was taken, constituted the entire major surface combatant component of the Black Sea Fleet,” Baker said, noting the photo was likely to be six years old or older. (The Kerch is now on the list to be scrapped, Baker said.)

Barker, the former sailor who first spotted the errors, believes the seven aircraft streaking by are F-5 jets, a trainer used by the U.S. Navy. Asked to explain how he reached that conclusion, the former airplane spotter ticked off a list: “Twin engine, single rudder, with hard points on the wingtips, with that silhouette is going to make them F-5s.”
Posted by: Sherry || 09/12/2012 10:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Amazing, simply amazing. That nobody noticed and that it took half a week for this to come out?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/12/2012 10:48 Comments || Top||

#2  If I had to guess, I'd say the Dem PR weenies bought some stock photos from a service and never bothered to read the captions. (hey, maybe the caption just said "Some boats"!)
Posted by: SteveS || 09/12/2012 11:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Look, cut them a break.

After all, they only deal with this military stuff what - once every 4 years or so? Who has time to sweat the details?
Posted by: lotp || 09/12/2012 12:31 Comments || Top||

#4  But... but... but...

You have to understand - to the DNC and other Socialists - the Soviet's were the 'heroes'!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/12/2012 12:43 Comments || Top||

#5  And the MSM says that these are the smartest people in the world....
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/12/2012 12:58 Comments || Top||

#6  at least they had a retired 4 star and not just a Corpseman
Posted by: Frank G || 09/12/2012 14:34 Comments || Top||

#7  Should've had a flag pop up when the picture was titled Kiev and it wasn't a dinner plate.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/12/2012 15:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Maybe the Donks meant to do this. They are the new world order, one world, no borders crowd.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/12/2012 15:36 Comments || Top||

#9  A fitting backdrop for many of our flag officers I'd say.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/12/2012 16:31 Comments || Top||

#10  I recognized 'em right away, + asked patrons why is the DNC showing Russian Warships behind the Bammer???

* "KERCH now on the list to be scrapped" - hint-hint to the USN???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/12/2012 20:00 Comments || Top||



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