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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Today's Idiot
Pudgy pooch lumbers home
There's an idiot in here somewhere, I just can't decide who. Too many targets...
LONDON — Two brothers were convicted Friday of causing unnecessary suffering by letting their dog become obese, prompting fears among pet owners that they could be prosecuted if they let their animals put on too much weight.

In an unprecedented case, David and Derek Benton were prosecuted by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals because Rusty, their pet Labrador retriever, tipped the scales at 70 kilograms, more than double the weight he should have been. They denied causing unnecessary suffering to the 10-year-old dog but were found guilty by magistrates in Ely, Cambridgeshire, eastern England.

David Benton, 52, a crane driver, and Derek, 63, a saddler, were given a conditional discharge for three years and ordered to pay about $500 each. No order was made for the seizure of the Labrador or any disqualification preventing them from keeping animals, so Rusty will be returned to them. The prosecution incurred legal costs of nearly $24,000.
Because the taxpayers money is ALWAYS well spent if there is a fat dog involved.
After the case, the British Veterinary Association said that 30 to 40 per cent of pets were overweight but that owners should not fear prosecution if they followed vets’ advice. But David Benton said: "What’s going to happen next? Will you be in court if your child is too fat? The dog has arthritis. What do they expect? It does feel like we’ve been chased by the fat police. I think a lot of people will be worried.

"We will make absolutely sure we look after Rusty properly and he will be seeing a vet as soon as we get him back."

The court was told that Rusty had suffered hip dysplasia from the age of 18 months, which left him arthritic, unable to exercise properly and prone to weight gain. The brothers said that they had tried to make him lose weight but were unable to get him to stick to a diet at their home in Fordham, near Soham, Cambridgeshire.

The court was told that Rusty had lost about 19 kilograms since March after being put on a low-calorie diet by RSPCA workers and given painkilling drugs costing almost $6,000.

Bryant Watson, the magistrate, said that the brothers had been advised several times to control Rusty’s weight.

David Benton said that he used to walk Rusty twice a day during the week and three times a day on weekends until about 18 months before he was seized. He added: "He was getting slower as he got bigger. I think his hips got so bad that he just gave up. It got to the point where he didn’t want to go out anymore."

RSPCA chief inspector Mark Thompson insisted that the charity had been right to bring the prosecution. "I am disappointed that the magistrates did not grant a seizure order," he said. "We will be closely monitoring Rusty in the future and if the Benton brothers do not look after him properly in the future, they will be brought back to court."

Records revealed that the brothers were advised repeatedly by vets to put Rusty on a diet and that his weight had increased by 23 kilograms — about 50 per cent — in less than three years.
Alex Wylie, the vet who treated Rusty when he was brought in by the RSPCA barely able to stand, said, "The one thing we didn’t want was for Rusty to be allowed back to the Bentons. We are devastated."

Mark Johnston, a vet and spokesman for the BVA’s small animals association, said, "The most important thing in a Labrador’s life is food, followed by food, followed by food.

"Overfeeding is a crime just as much as if you were neglecting the dog by not feeding it."

Labradors are notoriously difficult to keep trim. They like their food. The ideal weight for a two-year-old adult Labrador should be 35 kilograms. If the dog puts on even two kilograms a year, he is being overfed.
That is the biggest bullsh*t statement I have ever heard. Labs are high energy dogs who like to run after stuff. We never had a problem keeping ours in fighting trim. Just throw a stick across the yard and yell 'BACK!' Repeat ad nauseum. Result: 1 very well exercised dog.
Posted by: Free Radical || 01/13/2007 12:57 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  regardless... The officials prosecuting this should be horsewhipped
Posted by: Frank G || 01/13/2007 14:01 Comments || Top||

#2  FR....."Result: 1 very well exercised dog." AND ONE VERY TIRED ARM!!!

We used to exercize my girl friends Lab by taking it to the Ocean (Cape Cod) and throwing the stick into the water. Alternately throwing a tennis ball down the hill into the woods in back.

Human always got wore out first.
Posted by: AlanC || 01/13/2007 14:44 Comments || Top||

#3  This is fucking crazy. I find if damn difficult to believe.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/13/2007 17:30 Comments || Top||

#4  In related news: England is doomed.
Posted by: Excalibur || 01/13/2007 17:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Given this is England, should not Rusty qualify for state-paid dog liposuction?
Posted by: SteveS || 01/13/2007 18:03 Comments || Top||

#6  They'll be sued by their neighbors next because the dog won't stop barking on account of that it's so damn hungry.
Posted by: Danking70 || 01/13/2007 19:29 Comments || Top||

#7  One of the games I would play with our chocolate was to throw a tennis ball onto the roof of our home. It would always roll off in some weird direction that really kept her alert.
The only problem was that a few times it would get stuck in the gutter. She absoultey CRIED if this happened. So She would follow me down to the tool-shed where I would grab a ladder. Brought it back, got the tennis ball, and washed it off in the pool before I gave it to her. She knew I wasn't going to let a dumb-*ss gutter get between her and her tennis ball.
Posted by: Free Radical || 01/13/2007 20:00 Comments || Top||

#8  I hope they don't go after Apache. He is 5'-8" at the withers and weighs 1380 pounds.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 01/13/2007 20:17 Comments || Top||


AZ Sheriff Arpaio Puts 70,000 Outstanding Warrants Online
Actually, the logic is not bad. Many people issued warrants are for misdemeanors, like failure to appear for traffic citations, and the people themselves are unaware they have an outstanding warrant.

The list also includes home addresses, so when the word gets out, a lot of people will be told by friends and neighbors.

For minor offenses, this will give lots of people an opportunity to turn themselves in, resulting in a great amnesty, as most of their evidence is long gone.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 10:16 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So what happens when a Sheriff or cop is stopped for a traffic violation? FIX!!! Officers of the court trumpet the rule of law, but rarely enforce law when it comes to their friends and colleagues.

I have never been charged with any kind of offense in Arizona, but in the time I spent there I learned that Arpaio is a pathological publicity hog. He used to abuse first time offenders who were on appeal. Ergo: he made innocent persons sleep in tent hot houses, and eat baloney on bread as his staple service. Arpaio talks tough, but he turns yellow when lawyers come knocking.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 01/13/2007 11:50 Comments || Top||

#2  So, the convicted 'innocents' that didn't make bail while on appeal of their conviction had to wear pink underwear in Sheriff Joe's tent city instead of watching tv and having 3 hots and a cot in 'regular' jails? Part of Sheriff Joe's publicity push is to impress the first or any time offenders not to do it in his jurisdiction or you may end up with whining lawyers...Sneaze.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 01/13/2007 12:49 Comments || Top||

#3  It gets worse. Being fed "green" bologna and trail mix as your only food, and not enough daily calories to maintain your body weight. If you stayed there for four or five years, you would starve to death. The idea is for detainees to be continually hungry. No packages or goods or reading materials are permitted in the jails.

Other dehumanizing things are the chain gangs, forcing inmates to bury the indigent dead, and forcing inmates to kill shelter animals with heart injection needles.

Aspirin is the only non-life-threatening-emergent medical care, and prisoners have sued the County repeatedly and won for being denied inexpensive 'maintenance' medications. One such man, with Crohn's disease, was denied a 25-cent-a-day pill which made him undergo four major surgeries, being cut open from crotch to throat. Total cost to the County was well over half a million dollars for the surgeries alone.

A wooden restraint chair used by his jailers has been used against paraplegics and the incapacitated, causing permanent spinal damage and death. An FBI investigation was thwarted by blatant evidence tampering on the part of Joe.

Any subordinates who do not openly endorse Joe are fired, and political opponents are investigated, surveilled and harassed by uniformed and undercover deputies.

He has been condemned by every law enforcement organization in the State, and four countries will no longer extradite to Maricopa County, as by treaty obligation they cannot extradite to places where "torture" is a possibility.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 13:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Jeez, you'd think their php deveoper could program multiple pages for each single letter SQL query.
Posted by: badanov || 01/13/2007 13:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Since Sheriff Joe is in an elected job, how come he keeps getting relected every time? Who are the four countries that won't extradite to Maricopa County and do they advertise they welcome Arizona criminals?
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 01/13/2007 13:54 Comments || Top||

#6  ...and one other item to consider about being tough on crime...He won the election in 1992. Four years later, in 1996, after his policies had earned him unprecedented praise and an 85% public approval rating, no one even ran against him when he sought a second term as Sheriff.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 01/13/2007 14:12 Comments || Top||

#7 
Moose the 'post comment' you wrote is clear and good conjecture, BUT you blew that away and any credibility off with a classic Moose'ism when you dropped this:

It gets worse. Being fed "green" bologna and trail mix as your only food, and not enough daily calories to maintain your body weight. If you stayed there for four or five years, you would starve to death.

willfully stoopid and undocumented Horse Pucky in the comments section.

Grrrrrrrr! why do you do it!!????
Posted by: RD || 01/13/2007 14:13 Comments || Top||

#8  RD: It took me all of five seconds to find this info:

http://tinyurl.com/ylemce
"I got meal costs down to 40 cents a day per inmate. It costs $1.15 a day to feed the department's dogs. Now, I'm cutting prisoners' calories from 3,000 to 2,500 a day," the sheriff said during a recent tour of his tent city.

"Do you hear me?" he asked the inmates who surrounded him. "You're too fat. I'm taking away your food because I'm trying to help you. I'm on a diet myself. You eat too much fat."

Oh, and I didn't even mention the endemic food poisoning that goes around his tent jails, due to the fat often being spoiled. Vomiting and diarrhea don't help prisoners keep on weight.

Now, if you have a diet of 2,500 calories a day, that may be well and good if you are a short guy. But if you are 6 feet tall and weigh 180, even with light activity, you will lose weight. With moderate activity, you are short 500 calories a day.

Since most calories are used to heat the body, it is especially hard on inmates in winter, wearing only light clothing.

The best subjective information comes from people who have been arrested by Joe and held for months, even though never convicted. Even healthy, trim young men will drop 15 pounds in six months.

So, would you starve to death in four or five years? You would certainly show severe malnutrition, and have perhaps lifelong digestive problems due to repeated bouts with sickness. But if you were in that long, you would go to the State Prison at Florence, and eat a lot more, and better, food.

As far as Joe's popularity, he could probably get 90% if he publicly branded inmates with hot irons. The public likes that sort of thing. Still doesn't make it right.

So tell me, RD, how offended are you, really? As much as you ever wanted to know about Joe Arpaio is online at the Phoenix New Times, who hate him and will publish any dirt about him. But they don't have to try very hard.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 15:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Moose, if I were a voter there, he would get my vote, every time.

I don't give a rat's ass how happy/well-fed the prisoners are as they are in JAIL. As I said in another thread: "Life is tough. It's even tougher when you are stoopid".

I suspect his constituents (i.e. voters) are happy with his manner and methods as he keeps on getting re-elected by wide margins.

As for the local 'alternative' newspaper, who cares what they say? By definition, they are lefties.
Posted by: Brett || 01/13/2007 16:11 Comments || Top||

#10  As I noted above, Arpaio stopped his cruel treatment to first timers after many were acquitted at trial. In at least one case, he made a tearful apology. He has compassion, if only for himself.

Criminal defenders associate Arizona with one of the worst travesties of justice in American history: the "Temple Five" Murder case. After the infamous Buddhist Temple massacre, local Barney Fifes arrested 5 convenient suspects. By using death penalty leverage and other tricks, they convinced all 5 to confess, but soon released one because he had an airtight alibi. Several months later, the other 4 had to be released because the real culprits had been found. Whether right, center or left, we need to support the rule of law, and that does not mean blindly accepting whatever cops or jailors do. Check this out:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/forensics/buddhist_temple/index.html
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 01/13/2007 16:36 Comments || Top||

#11  no sympathy here, sorry
Posted by: Frank G || 01/13/2007 17:20 Comments || Top||

#12  Brett: Did you catch that bit that many of them haven't been convicted of anything, that they are there awaiting trial? I know it's easy to be tough on criminals, but I hesitate when talking about people who haven't been convicted by a judge or jury.

I also don't like his tampering with criminal homicide evidence to thwart an FBI investigation, nor strong-arming political opponents using County resources.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 17:21 Comments || Top||

#13  make bail if you got a job. No sympathy, sorry, Moose. "Crying for criminals" ain't the name of this site. I'm not in the mood to worry about how offenders are fed (it's not green...you just bought the PR), their caloric intake, whether they have to wear pink, or feel humiliated. F*ck EM. Don't do the crime...
Posted by: Frank G || 01/13/2007 17:29 Comments || Top||

#14  There's gotta be a better way to deal with these miscreants. Perhaps were could dip them in Helium 3 and put them in a 500 year Solar orbit.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/13/2007 17:41 Comments || Top||

#15  Still no documentation of the four countries who won't extradite to Maricopa County, AZ, moose. Are they same ones who won't extradite to the USA because we have the death penalty? Like maybe Mexico and the EU weenies? I'm sure if it's on the internet, it's true, so check out the Phoenix New Times again for the Molly Ivans by-line and get back to us.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 01/13/2007 17:53 Comments || Top||

#16  Arpaio runs a jail right Moose.

Moose, "four or five years, you would starve to death."

nuff said,

no need to look up the actual, "diet" or "calorie count" or deaths due to "starvation".

scheech, what do you take us for?
Posted by: RD || 01/13/2007 18:19 Comments || Top||

#17  no sympathy here either. I surmise if every county ran it's pen like Sheriff Joe there would be a lot less crime and possibly recidivism in the country.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 01/13/2007 18:28 Comments || Top||

#18  Phineter Thraviger: That would be Ireland, Iceland, Germany and Austria. Mexico is unrelated, not extraditing for death penalty reasons unrelated to Joe.

RD: You seem to be getting the vapours over a small point. First of all, nobody is going to be in jail for four or five years in the first place. Maybe a year to a year and a half, awaiting trial, plus if they don't get time served. If they are convicted of a felony, they probably go to Florence.

My point was that there is no damn good reason to starve people in jail, proclaiming how much money you save through sadism, then blow ten times that amount on publicity photo-ops.

And yes, unless you are getting enough calories to maintain your weight, you are being "starved".

Will you starve to death being getting 500 calories a day less, over the course of several years? Not by itself. But if you suffer frequent bouts of food poisoning, are forced to live in temperature extremes, and forced to do hard labor like digging graves, very few people could go four of five years without medical care and not become severely ill or die.

Add it all together, you people who love pain in others because they are sinners. Maybe you'll get lucky and get arrested by mistake and get to get tortured because hey, "If you're not guilty, then why are you being punished?"

In that perhaps HALF the people who are kept by Joe PRIOR to trial are never convicted of ANYTHING, it is nuts to punish them before having proven they deserve punishment.

This is a friggin' JAIL, not a prison. Save your wrath for people who at least commit serious State felonies.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 18:45 Comments || Top||

#19  whatever, hand
Posted by: RD || 01/13/2007 19:35 Comments || Top||

#20  moose, we can't use the that wrath on the symbolic AZ felon in Ireland, Iceland,Germany, and Austria. If there were any fleeing felons rating an extradition request, well, too bad for Justice West of the Pecos. :) In that perhaps HALF figure, does it include plea bargain community service/time spent decisions dropped by the prosecutor? Any winning lawsuits for wrongfull arrest and detention? BTW, do fat criminals have a right to maintain their weight?
Do any starving illegals gain weight while there?
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 01/13/2007 19:56 Comments || Top||

#21  "willfully stoopid and undocumented Horse Pucky in the comments section."

I put up, so I'll accept your shut up.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 20:04 Comments || Top||

#22  Frank, Broadhead, you're wrong. I can understand why you think the way you do but trust me, you're wrong. I used to think as you do until someone enlightened me about the case of Scott Norberg, a former BYU football player who died in Arpaio's custody. Norberg wasn't convicted of anything but was beaten and suffocated to death by Arpaio's jailers. It was caught on videotape and seen by witnesses. Norberg's parents sued and the Maricopa County attorneys settled OOC VERY, VERY QUICKLY for 8.25 million. They knew damned well they didn't want any part of a jury trial because the Norbergs might have ended up owning half of Maricopa County by the time the trial was over.

I take back seat to no one in my desire to see criminals made to pay severely for their crimes. Many of them I would like to see summarily shot. That said, Arpaio is an evil man using extremely harsh policies to punish all his inmates, some of whom are people who are not deserving of those tactics. Google Scott Norberg if you have any further interest in finding out about the real Joe Arpaio.
Posted by: mac || 01/13/2007 20:45 Comments || Top||

#23  1999 settlement of a 1996 death? That's your proof of current-day Joe-directed mistreatment? Curious....

One would think the AZ system would've cleansed after that big a settlement. Guess Joe didn't kill the guy? Any current "facts" (other than anecdotes)? With links, please.
Posted by: Frank G || 01/13/2007 21:09 Comments || Top||

#24  Here's one, Frank. A NPR audio on this...I don't know how to make it a linky for you. :) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1116900

Seems as though the USDept of Justice gave 900 stun guns to Maricopa as a test site in '94. The young football hero from Utah was picked up on an agrivated assualt charge. (He was a good boy) The next day in jail he was too incoherant to sign his name to the charges and the guards zapped him about 17 times. DoJ said oops, new rules. Civil suit cost the $. At least he didn't starve to death.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 01/13/2007 21:22 Comments || Top||

#25  I will check it out - thx
Posted by: Frank G || 01/13/2007 21:24 Comments || Top||

#26  ?? How fast did that reply come? LOL
Posted by: Frank G || 01/13/2007 21:25 Comments || Top||

#27  again.....10+ years ago? WTF?
Posted by: Frank G || 01/13/2007 21:26 Comments || Top||

#28 
#21: "willfully stoopid and undocumented Horse Pucky in the comments section."

I put up, so I'll accept your shut up.
Posted by: Anonymoose|| 2007-01-13 20:04 ||Comments Top||

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#19 whatever, hand

Anonymoose #19 was Rantburg Courtesy you fucking idiot, not suprisingly you got that twisted ASSHAT!

YOU'RE the one who MADE the wild CLAIMS, and YOU'RE the one who didn't them back up.

AZ Jails rarely hold people for more than one year and a day. So the usual convicted prisoner goes to a State Prison if they have to do more time than one year and a day. If an inmate gets State time he gets credit for time served in the Phoenix jails.

Of course there are exceptions to every rule, for instance a few stayed longer waiting for a trial to finish and other reasons. The vast majority don't.

Comparativley his jails are more unconfortable possibly than others BUT safer in many instances because many jails are more prone to really bad gang influence.

more moosey bullshit feed: "It gets worse. Being fed "green" bologna and trail mix as your only food, and not enough daily calories to maintain your body weight. If you stayed there for four or five years, you would starve to death."

So what shit are you trying to say fool, that Sheriff Arpaio is literaly starving people?

BULL SHIT You implied starvation, a wild ass claim moose, the burden is on you to prove it.

NO HAND
Posted by: RD || 01/13/2007 23:45 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Rwanda demands France arrest the ex-first lady
Rwanda on Thursday demanded that France arrest the widow of the country's former president,
"unless she stops sending us spam,"
saying its denial this week of asylum to the woman suspected in Rwanda's 1994 genocide was not good enough. Amid a collapse in relations between Kigali and Paris over allegations of French complicity in the events that led to the mass killings, Rwanda berated French authorities for their treatment of Agathe Habyarimana.

"It is not enough to deny her refugee status, France should arrest her because she is among the principle genocide plotters," Justice Minister Tharcisse Karugarama told AFP. He said that denying Habyarimana, widow of ex-president Juvenal Habyarimana whose April 6, 1994 assassination triggered the genocide, was not a sufficient measure because she is among key suspects in the killings. "Why did France wait for more than 12 years to take this decision?" Karugarama said, noting that Habyarimana has been in France for more than a decade despite repeated Rwandan complaints. "Everybody is asking the same question and she is still in France after all," he said. "Habyarimana's wife is not the only one, there are several genocide plotters in France."

"We are asking why France does not want to arrest them," Karugarama added. "They are living in France peacefully. France has become a sanctuary for genocide perpetrators, even those who have been convicted."
He's been paying attention.
And it's not a design flaw.
On January 4, Habyarimana's July 2004 request for asylum was turned down by France's refugee office OFPRA, which said in its ruling that she may have taken part "as an instigator or accomplice" in the "crime of genocide". She is accused by some of heading an inner circle of her husband's supporters that orchestrated and unleashed the genocide in which some 800,000 people, mainly minority Tutsis and moderate Hutus, were slaughtered by Hutu extremists over 100 days. Karugarama blamed France for delaying steps against Habyarimana, who has lived in France since she was evacuated by French troops after the genocide.

"France makes no effort to arrest them (genocide suspects). It is as though what happened in Rwanda rings no bell. When it puts in effort, it is in the negative direction to support those negating the genocide," Karugarama said.
Posted by: Seafarious || 01/13/2007 02:42 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But France always treats dictators and Nazis easily. C'est tradition. They let Bokassa alone for a decade. They let their own Nazi collaborators walk.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 01/13/2007 7:51 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Soddiland gets first female pilot...
...and it loks like she'll be flying Prince Alwaleed ibn Talal's friendly skies. But she still can't drive herself to the Riyadh airport.
Keeping in line with the reforms sweeping Saudi Arabia, the kingdom will soon see its first woman pilot taking over the skies. Capt. Hanadi Zakariya Hindi will begin her flying stint with one of the jets belonging to Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed ibn Talal, founder and chairman of Kingdom Holding Company, later this year as soon as she completes her advance pilot proficiency training programme. Though this is a path-breaking achievement for the 26-year-old first accredited female Saudi pilot, she will still need to be driven by a male chauffeur to the airport, the Arab News said. Women are still not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia. "I am busy building my flying hours and will be attending a short-term course to equip myself with more intimate knowledge of the jet owned by Prince Alwaleed," Hindi said. Being proud to be the first Saudi woman to fly professionally she claimed the aviation industry is no longer a male bastion. "I recently met Aisha Al-Hamli, the first Emirati woman pilot, in Dubai," Hindi remarked.
Posted by: Seafarious || 01/13/2007 02:28 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yay! Of course, if it doesn't work out, they'll have to scrap the whole plane.
Posted by: gorb || 01/13/2007 3:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Even if it does, no man would ever knowingly fly that airplane. On the other hand, it's ever so nice to be able to send the wives on a shopping trip without having to worry that a male pilot will see them. Female ground crew to follow?
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/13/2007 7:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Let's hope that burqua doesn't slip on a bumpy landing.

Is she allowed to taxi on an off the runways - or is that driving? It's all so confusing. I need a fatwah on this.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 01/13/2007 12:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Is she allowed to taxi on an off the runways - or is that driving?

Damn that is tricky! We need RB's Pilot-Imam to throw down wisdom here.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/13/2007 17:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Capt. Hanadi Zakariya Hindi

Hindi ?
Her family originally comes from the Indian subcontinent?

The Ayatollah Khomeini's full name was Ruhollah ibn Mustafa Musawi Khomeini Hindi. His grandfather came from a village in Uttar Pradesh, India.
Posted by: john || 01/13/2007 17:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Hence the name ... Hindi (meaning "The Indian")
Posted by: john || 01/13/2007 17:57 Comments || Top||

#7  Hey with they still call it a "cockpit"?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 01/13/2007 21:36 Comments || Top||


Britain
Pakistani gets life term for killing bride in UK
A man, who was charged with beating his teenaged bride to death, was jailed for life on Thursday. The couple had married only a few months before the incident.
Khan said that his wife has been possessed by demons. However, he denied attacking her at the home they shared with relatives in Roundhay, Leeds.
It was an arranged marriage. Shahzad Khan, 25, battered Sabia Rani, 19, after flying her in from Pakistan. Sabia could not speak English.

Khan said that his wife has been possessed by demons. However, he denied attacking her at the home they shared with relatives in Roundhay, Leeds. The girl was found dead in a bathroom with her ribs shattered - apparently from being kicked or stamped on over a period of three weeks. Judge Norman Jones recommended that Khan serve at least 15 years in prison.
How long's Sabia gonna be dead?
Posted by: Fred || 01/13/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So he's imprisoned for "life" which means at least fifteen years. Attention "feminists": This is what your bullshit and weakness has brought to your sisters. But then they are foreign and brown and have no say in your tenure application so basically fuck them, right?
Posted by: Excalibur || 01/13/2007 12:36 Comments || Top||

#2  This is what your bullshit and weakness has brought to your sisters

Islam and sharia law are the fault of feminists. Who knew?
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 01/13/2007 12:45 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
4 killed, 3 injured in vendetta attack
MARDAN: Four people were gunned down and three were injured in Gujarat village as Anar Gul and his cousin Azad Gul were returning to their village after attending a wedding ceremony. Fayyaz Haleem, son of Sahibzada, Dilzada, son of Redi Gul, and Amazi, son of Jamros Khan allegedly opened fire on Anar Gul and Azad Gul when they were returning to the village. Due to the shooting spree Azad Gul and three passers by, identified as Zaridad, son of Waheed Ullah, Salih Muhammad, son of Gulam, and Saifullah, son of Abul Naeem, were killed. Due to the indiscriminate firing three people, including one child, were also seriously injured.
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Home Front: Culture Wars
Leftist Activism
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#1  Viral marketing campaign...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 01/13/2007 11:51 Comments || Top||


Fnord! Robert Anton Wilson 1932-2007
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 01/13/2007 09:37 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  (from the Wiki)

Robert Anton Wilson or RAW (January 18, 1932 – January 11, 2007) was a prolific American novelist, essayist, philosopher, psychologist, futurologist, anarchist, and conspiracy theory researcher.

His writing, which often shows a sense of humor and optimism, is described by him as an "attempt to break down conditioned associations--to look at the world in a new way, with many models recognized as models (maps) and no one model elevated to the Truth." And: "My goal is to try to get people into a state of generalized agnosticism, not agnosticism about God alone, but agnosticism about everything."

RAW is also regarded as the founding philosophy behind Discordianism, and indirectly, The Church of the SubGenius.

In practice, what he advocated was a deep disrespect to organizations and individuals who expect and demand respect based on what they represent.

For this reason, his followers feel free to sarcastically attack religion, government, private groups and even organizations of skeptics who take themselves too seriously.

A small, fringe movement, the RAW-based philosophies experienced explosive growth with the advent of the Internet, which inherently serves as a medium for just this sort of sarcastic criticism.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 10:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Illuminatus was a wacky and paranoid book, but lots of fun.

I view it the same way I view a lot of Ayn Rand's stuff - it's not a place you want to end up in, but it's a necessary stop along the way.
Posted by: no mo uro || 01/13/2007 10:35 Comments || Top||

#3  You okay Thoth?
Posted by: Shipman || 01/13/2007 11:01 Comments || Top||

#4  "My goal is to try to get people into a state of generalized agnosticism, not agnosticism about God alone, but agnosticism about everything."

it is funny that he has a following.
Posted by: Glomoque Chavirt4829 || 01/13/2007 12:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Um, agnosticism about everything? In other words, total ignorance?
Posted by: Korora || 01/13/2007 14:44 Comments || Top||

#6  No, a slight doubt bout everything. Even purple penguins.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/13/2007 17:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Why have faith in anything? You have to have trust, but faith just means you are gullible. You trust that a chair is safe to support your weight, because it looks safe to you; but you have no reason to believe somebody who says the chair is safe, just because they said so.

And faith gets even worse when it is not first person.

"Dave said that chair is okay to sit on."

"Somebody told Dave that a chair here is okay to sit on."

"It was once written that chairs here are safe."

"In the ancient past, a prophet foretold that someday there would be a good place to sit down around here. Or maybe that you shouldn't shave your duck. You shouldn't be too literal."

"But if you don't have faith that this chair is safe, then you are a heathen dog."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 18:53 Comments || Top||


Trial date set for founders of Ariz. church that deifies marijuana
The founders of a southeastern Arizona church that deifies marijuana are now scheduled to go on trial on Feb. 20 in Albuquerque, N.M.

Dan and Mary Quaintance had been scheduled to go on trial next Tuesday, but U.S. District Judge Judith C. Herrera on Thursday granted them extra time to prepare. The Quaintances and their lawyers had asked for a 30-day extension in light of Herrera's recent ruling that the Quaintances do not have a "sincere" religious belief.

The Quaintances face criminal charges of possessing more than 100 pounds of marijuana and of conspiracy to distribute it. They were arrested on Feb. 22, 2006, in Lordsburg, N.M. The couple say they don't grow their "sacrament" but rather rely on donations of it, which they pick up from church "couriers." That's what they say they were about to do when they were arrested.

The pair founded their Church of Cognizance in Pima - about 90 miles northeast of Tucson - in 1991. The Quaintances, both in their 50s, each face up to 40 years in federal prison if they are convicted as charged.
Ruling on religious "sincerity" might be the judge's way of 'kicking the case upstairs', to let the appeals court decide.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 09:14 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They better be sure to write down that trial date.
Posted by: Sgt. D.T. || 01/13/2007 11:18 Comments || Top||

#2  If the "church fathers" had thought to deify a hate filled mysioginistic homophobic child molesting rapist murdering lying cutthroat thief they'd be off the hook. Maybe never charged. They'd be represented by the ACLU with support from the UN and the EU.
Posted by: Mark Z || 01/13/2007 11:56 Comments || Top||

#3  The Church of Cognizance? After 100 lbs of weed?
I doubt it...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/13/2007 14:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Geez, if "sincere" religious belief is the litmus test, the Scientologists are in deep s**t.
Posted by: xbalanke || 01/13/2007 23:02 Comments || Top||


PETA plans protest outside Scottsdale store
Members of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals will be protesting outside the Burberry store at Scottsdale Fashion Square on Monday by holding a sign that says, "We'd rather go naked than wear fur."

Three female protesters will wear nothing but underwear and pasties. Other PETA members will hand out leaflets showing what they say are animals suffering and dying to become part of a Burberry coat. PETA member Meggan Anderson says she'll gladly bare her skin if it will help save an animal.

The protest begins at noon Monday.
Some local wits have offered to buy five buckets of KFC chicken to have an informal public picnic next to the PETA event.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 09:02 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Get back there! I have the power pasties and I know how to use them!
Posted by: Dr. Flexi Jerkoff || 01/13/2007 10:01 Comments || Top||

#2  They could really have some fun if one of them showed up dressed and made up like a zombie, yelling "Braaaaiiins! Braaaaiiins! Ooo! Is that chicken? Must eat chiiiiiicken!"
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/13/2007 10:12 Comments || Top||

#3  KFC chicken, hell...someone needs to set up a big honkin' barbecue grill made out of half of a 55-gallon drum and start cooking up a load of pork ribs, chicken and steaks. They need to try to get a liquor license, too, so they can have a beer tent while they're at it.
Posted by: RIcky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 01/13/2007 22:56 Comments || Top||



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