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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Tiger Watch Continues
FORT POLK (AP) — The Army set traps with nets and raw chicken meat Wednesday, but a Bengal tiger cub still managed to elude the 100-man team of soldiers, deputies and helicopter crews who searched for the animal for a second day.
Being a government operation, did they establish a "Tiger Team"?
"We're trying to flush the little rascal out, but he's not cooperating," said Scott Heinrich, owner of a wild animal consultancy that was brought in to track the tiger. The cat, thought to be about 1 year old and 100 pounds, was first seen Friday by a man near a base gas station.
Hell, it's just a baby tiger.
Several more sightings have been reported, most recently on Tuesday night: one near a golf course and another near an area of base housing, said Maj. Ron Elliott, a Fort Polk spokesman. The cat is probably a pet that escaped or was set free, and witnesses have said it is wearing a collar, Heinrich said. No one has come forward to claim ownership. The Army more than doubled the size of the search team, which began with 40 deputies and soldiers Tuesday. Elliott said the searchers will strive to capture the animal humanely — in a trap or with a tranquilizer dart — but they would kill it if it attacks. "If there's imminent danger, we'll have to take the tiger down," Elliott said. Heinrich said that's unlikely. Unless cornered, the animal's first instinct will be to run away, he said."He's going to run like hell when he sees us," he said. Heinrich said he's been following paths through the base's thick brush and has seen several cat tracks. The Army has told people on the base to stay off running paths and other areas near where the tiger has been seen, Elliott said. But the search is difficult. The tracks are tough to follow because the ground is wet, Heinrich said. Hitting the animal with a tranquilizer dart will also be difficult because of the animal's speed and the thick brush that could deflect the dart, Heinrich said. "It'll be a tough shot to make," he said.
Posted by: Steve || 09/02/2004 10:56:33 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This looks like a job for Supermucky.

(The little rascal doesn't need the chicken. He's got a steady supply of armadillos.)
Posted by: GK || 09/02/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||


Doctors Find Loose Wiring & Change in Man's Stomach
Wed Sep 1, 5:38 PM ET
BANGKOK, Thailand - It was almost like breaking open a piggy bank. Doctors performing emergency surgery on a man who was rushed to hospital writhing in pain were stunned when more than 4.2 pounds of loose change spilled out of his stomach.
I know exactly how this guy feels. Just the other day, I stole a woman's purse. I thought the change would do me some good. [rimshot]
Sanguan Pongsawat, 37, who has a history of mistrusting banking institutions and does not own a mattress mental disorders, was operated on Tuesday in the northern town of Payao, said Dr. Sakchai Athawiboon of the Payao hospital. Sakchai said that Sanguan, who lived with his mother, had been swallowing the coins for a long time without her knowledge.
"Otherwise I would have made him wear a diaper!"
"He is in safe but not sane condition. But he has to be in the hospital for some time in case of side effects because the metal coins had been in his body for a long time," Sakchai said Wednesday. The coins had turned black from stomach acid. Sanguan was in excruciating pain on Tuesday and was taken to a hospital, where an X-ray showed hard objects in his stomach. They weren't identified until the surgery. Payao is about 375 miles north of Bangkok.
I don't think this is what Pongsawat's doctor had in mind when he recommended a "change in diet."
Posted by: Zenster || 09/02/2004 2:43:39 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The X-rays probably showed a big, solid mass in his gut. How much fun that must have been!
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/02/2004 8:28 Comments || Top||

#2  This is actually a recognized mental problem, swallowing coins.

What would be the technical name, I wonder?

Nothing comes up on a quick google, but I did stumble across this:

Estimating the Airspeed Velocity of an Unladen Swallow
Posted by: mojo || 09/02/2004 14:22 Comments || Top||

#3  This is actually a recognized mental problem, swallowing coins.

What would be the technical name, I wonder?


Numismaphagy?

Apparently, this is a lot more common than one would think.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/02/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#4  A really nice 1914-D always makes me a little hungry. I mean if the wheat ears are in good shape of course... I'm not that weird.

Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 17:41 Comments || Top||

#5  all funnies aside please avoid eating mercury dimes because they contain heavy metal
Posted by: Half || 09/02/2004 18:48 Comments || Top||

#6  wtf are you talking about Half? They are made from the conventional 90% silver 10% copper alloy typical of all 1964 and prior dimes.

"The common name of mercury comes from The portrait on the face side of the coin is actually that of Liberty wearing a winged cap symbolizing freedom of thought. However, because of the resemblance of this portrait to Mercury, the coin has always been popularly referred to as a Mercury dime."

http://coins.about.com/library/weekly/aa042901a.htm
Posted by: Craig || 09/02/2004 20:25 Comments || Top||

#7  thanks craig i guess silver would be fairly safe the big mystery is the earlier dime that guy dont look like a barber to me
Posted by: Half || 09/03/2004 7:28 Comments || Top||


Lesbian cow study udderly serious
THE lesbian love life of domestic cattle has prompted a fact-finding mission to Malaysia's central highlands to study the world's last remaining herd of wild cattle. Australia's only professor of animal welfare, Clive Phillips from the University of Queensland, is hoping a basic study of Malaysia's endangered Gaur cattle will help explain why domestic cows mount each other during fertile periods. "With domestic cattle the cows show mounting homosexual behaviour when they are on heat and the wild cattle don't show that," Professor Phillips said. He said factors such as stress, a selective domestication process which favoured outwardly sexual cows and the number of animals on heat in a small enclosure, could explain why domestic cows displayed this deviation in sexual behaviour.

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Posted by: tipper || 09/02/2004 2:14:55 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think it's because the wild cattle wait until you're not looking, Clive. It's obvious they have better manners than you. And I believe they're probably smarter than you are, too. Abnormal, indeed. Infer from this paragraph what you can do with your study.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 5:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Anybody else going to have nightmares about how cows feed their young?
Posted by: Charles || 09/02/2004 5:53 Comments || Top||

#3  I saw plenty of lesbian cows up here in Mass the week they legalized gay marriage.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/02/2004 13:58 Comments || Top||

#4  tu - lol!

Glad it isn't my tax dollars hard at work on this one. A more interesting question might be why Prof Phillips is so interested in the sexual behavior of cows.
Posted by: B || 09/02/2004 14:10 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't mind if the guy is studying the last (did you note LAST) remaining herd of wid cattle for genetic or other reasons. But for the reason of two cows humping one another. I think this gut never got invited to the frat parties
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 09/02/2004 22:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Is this one of the missing Far Side cartoons?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/02/2004 22:39 Comments || Top||


Transvestite trial the talk of Nigeria
Posted by: tipper || 09/02/2004 01:42 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Abubakar Hamza has become a big celebrity in northern Nigeria

This ought to be fun, lol!
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 6:39 Comments || Top||

#2  My recent jailed transvestite brother deposited an amount of $25 000 000 in the National Bank of Mook, Nigeria. I am needing of your esteemed help to....
Posted by: Howard UK || 09/02/2004 6:47 Comments || Top||


Rudy the roo upstages king of ring
Posted by: tipper || 09/02/2004 01:12 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lol! That's a funny bit, heh...

Here's Rudy and a very surprised sparring partner (drafted, I'd say) who thought it was going to be a photo op...
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 6:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Damm I pity the poor Hasselblad cammera that is in mid flight. That looks like it hurts too heheh.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/02/2004 7:11 Comments || Top||

#3  I found something in the column even more surprising:

"King, the controversial American promoter, usually steals the show whether he is at a press conference in person or just in voice.

He was not in attendance at the Mandalay Bay today as he was supporting US President George W. Bush at the Republican convention in New York."
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/02/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#4  did you see King on Dennis Miller? He was awesome!! Unbelievable!! Who would have thought that Don King, of all people, could promote such wit?
Posted by: B || 09/02/2004 11:31 Comments || Top||

#5  "King, the controversial American promoter, usually steals the show whether he is at a press conference in person or just in voice.

He usually steals anything that ain't nailed down.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/02/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||

#6  ...or that he can pry loose.
Posted by: mojo || 09/02/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||


ET signals back
AMATEUR radio hams are usually excited by the faint buzz of a distant shortwave station, but a group of scientists believe they have received a message from extra-terrestrials. Astronomers think that a signal picked up by a radio telescope last year shows the highest probability yet that ET's family may have returned his call. In February 2003, scientists involved in the search for extra-terrestrial intelligence (SETI) pointed the huge radio telescope in Arecibo, Puerto Rico, at about 200 sections of the sky. Unexplained radio signals had been detected twice by the same telescope in these areas and scientists were trying to confirm the findings.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 09/02/2004 12:43:35 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  With all that is and isn't a part of the matrix, Sheesh! I want flying things; Mexico, Tecates, sketchy videos, things darting about. But some damned radio signal that sayz, 12121212121212 don't cut it, MAN!
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 0:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Scientists at Rutgers University in New Jersey claim that beaming a radio signal that can be detected 10,000 light years away would demand a million billion times as much energy as just shooting out matter on which the data is inscribed.

Assuming, of course, that your "target" civilization could find the matter on which the data is inscribed. Or that there aren't higher-bandwidth methods of sending the data via EM waves, once you know where the system is (like, for instance, laser comm links).

Although I'm disappointed in the headlines; I thought the NYT would report something like "Extraterrestrial life discovered; women, minorities hardest hit..."
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 09/02/2004 1:48 Comments || Top||

#3  If any of you want to help with this project, go to SETI@home and download their screensaver. You computer will process their data during any idle time. My own has been running almost 300 hours worth of Arecibo data blocks for the last several months. Imagine if it was your own computer that cracked the first extraterrestrial signal. That would be bragging rights for a lifetime and your 'puter would probably end up in the Smithsonion.
Posted by: Anonymous6166 || 09/02/2004 1:57 Comments || Top||

#4  A6166 = Zenster
Posted by: Anonymous6166 || 09/02/2004 1:58 Comments || Top||

#5  NEWS JUST IN!!! They have identified the source of the radio signal!!!!!

It's Terry McAuliffe barely heard above the roar of the Republican train!!
Posted by: anymouse || 09/02/2004 2:15 Comments || Top||

#6  How good for fragile human self-esteem would it be to find that we share the universe with extraterrestrial life forms so advanced they make the smartest members of our species seem comparable to cockroaches. I'm not convinced it would go down well.
Posted by: Bulldog || 09/02/2004 4:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Imagine the Iranian response to proven ET life - IT SHALL BE DESTROYED INTSHALLAN. HERESY! They'd cut the nuke programme and invest in sending up suicide spaceships to ravage the sky-borne infidel.
Posted by: Howard UK || 09/02/2004 4:31 Comments || Top||

#8  Lol! The Slamists would suddenly find some fucking sura that Mohammed predicted it - and that they're Muslims at heart.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 5:39 Comments || Top||

#9  "Extraterrestrial life discovered; women, minorities hardest hit..."

That's probably what they would write too.
Posted by: Charles || 09/02/2004 5:51 Comments || Top||

#10  Imagine the Iranian response...

"Death to Planet Zopos!" etc. With the usual chance of success.

Or they might just do the "2001: A Space Odyssey" thing and stumble in awe around the big black monolith. Oh, wait...
Posted by: Bulldog || 09/02/2004 6:01 Comments || Top||

#11  Or they might just do the "2001: A Space Odyssey" thing and stumble in awe around the big black monolith. Oh, wait...

Effing witty, Bulldog!
Posted by: Zenster || 09/02/2004 6:07 Comments || Top||

#12  Specalist researchers have studied the big black monolith and stated "It's a huge dinosaur turd."
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/02/2004 6:15 Comments || Top||

#13  It's well known that the dinosaurs were good with geometry - so the elegance of 1x4x9 would not be a stretch for them... As Bowman said, "How naive to think the sequence stopped in 3 dimensions".

You've heard of The Terrible Secret of Space, right?

Well, here's the Terrible Secret of the Dinosaurs.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 6:32 Comments || Top||

#14  .com - Don't do that, I'm trying to quit!
Posted by: Howard UK || 09/02/2004 7:32 Comments || Top||

#15  .com I will never let a robot assist me down the stairs. I don't need protection from that terrible secret of space.

I better go to bed. My son in law is comming at noon so we can Install a win32 FORTRAN 77 compiler on his laptop. I am a glutton for punishment. I feel like handing him a "Learn C in 24 Hours" book and a computer with Debian on it "It's POSIX but it's free" (Don't pay any attention to the Moonbats son, don't poke them and they will leave you alone. Never tell them you are a Republican and a Marine. They will get so frothy mouthed it's bound to damage some valuable equipment.)
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/02/2004 7:47 Comments || Top||

#16  Yep. I knew it. The tobacco industry, Haliburton, Big Oil. They're all behind the dinaosaurs' demise. I bet the Joooos were somehow involved, too. And Cheney.
Posted by: nada || 09/02/2004 8:41 Comments || Top||

#17  The unexplained signal appears to be emanating from a point between the constellations of Pisces and Aries, where there is no obvious star or planetary system within 1,000 light years,

"That's no moon..."
Posted by: eLarson || 09/02/2004 9:28 Comments || Top||

#18  Actually the wavelength emission is a new physical particle called Democraticum with a half life of two months. It is characterized by it's ability to flip flop neutrons to protons back and forth again at an alarming rate, resulting in the complete annihilation of any matter associated with it.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 09/02/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#19  Two months? More like two days.
Posted by: Steve from Relto || 09/02/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#20  Detected on three separate occasions, the signal is "an enigma", say researchers.

Old Duran Duran records, I bet; nothing interesting to see / hear here...
Posted by: Raj || 09/02/2004 10:38 Comments || Top||

#21  Classic thread already?
Posted by: Steve from Relto || 09/02/2004 10:58 Comments || Top||

#22  I had an enigma when I had a colonoscopy. I didn't like it.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/02/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#23  You had radio signals coming out of your ass? Weird.
Posted by: Dar || 09/02/2004 13:45 Comments || Top||

#24  LOL Well my house just recently quit looking like a Russian "trawler" Now I am down to just 7 antennas. I have been listening to 1420 megahertz here all day. It us populated by some wheezy old fart congratulating each other on the bowel movement they just had.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 09/02/2004 16:06 Comments || Top||

#25  Jeeez.... I'll bet it's nothing but interstellar CB.
Breaker, Breaker 193847365029375937 this is the AgurilianLovePatrol got your flagerrettes in a high glossy?
Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 16:35 Comments || Top||

#26  I'm getting a signal... it says...

"KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!!!"
Posted by: Chris W. || 09/02/2004 23:46 Comments || Top||


Monster Hurricane Frances Heading To Slam E. Florida Coast (Miami?)
Nearly a half-million people were ordered to evacuate as Hurricane Frances swirled toward Florida on Wednesday just weeks after Charley's devastating visit, threatening to deliver the most powerful one-two punch to hit a state in at least a century. Forecasters said the still-strengthening Category 4 storm could hit on Labor Day weekend as early as Friday night, less than three weeks after Charley raked Florida's western coast with 145 mph wind, causing billions of dollars in damage and killing 27 people. "I can't emphasize enough how powerful this is. If there's something out there that's going to weaken it, we haven't seen it," National Hurricane Center director Max Mayfield said.
More in Link ....
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 09/02/2004 12:41:54 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The 3-Day Track Map

Sustained wind max 145 MPH... This one's gonna hurt...
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 6:47 Comments || Top||

#2  NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 AM AST THU SEP 02 2004

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR THE FLORIDA EAST COAST FROM CRAIG KEY NORTHWARD TO FLAGLER BEACH...INCLUDING LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 36 HOURS. HURRICANE WARNINGS WILL LIKELY BE ISSUED FOR PORTIONS OF THE WATCH AREA LATER THIS
MORNING.
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE MIDDLE FLORIDA KEYS FROM SOUTH OF CRAIG KEY SOUTHWARD TO THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE...INCLUDING FLORIDA BAY.

AT 8 AM AST...1200Z...THE EYE OF HURRICANE FRANCES WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 23.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 73.5 WEST OR ABOUT 80 MILES
...135 KM...SOUTHEAST OF SAN SALVADOR ISLAND IN THE BAHAMAS. THIS IS ALSO ABOUT 470 MILES...755 KM...EAST-SOUTHEAST OF PALM BEACH FLORIDA. FRANCES IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH...20 KM/HR ...AND THIS MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
ON THIS TRACK...THE LARGE CORE OF HURRICANE FRANCES WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE NEAR OR OVER THE SOUTHEASTERN BAHAMAS THIS MORNING...AND NEAR THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING.
FRANCES REMAINS A CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 145 MPH...235 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. FLUCTUATIONS IN INTENSITY ARE EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.
HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 80 MILES...130 KM...FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 185 MILES...295 KM. SAN SALVADOR IN THE BAHAMAS IS CURRENTLY REPORTING WINDS TO 52 MPH...83 KM/HR.
THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY THE HURRICANE HUNTER IS 939 MB...27.73 INCHES.
Posted by: Steve || 09/02/2004 10:48 Comments || Top||

#3  As of the 2pm analysis by the NHC, Miami looks like it will escape the worst of the storm.

However, beinning at Palm Beach and going North looks really scary.
Posted by: mhw || 09/02/2004 15:19 Comments || Top||

#4  BTW .com from last evenning... Parts of Tallahassee are almost 300 ft above sea level... and sea level is only 15 miles away. SkiFlorida! :)

HURRICANE FRANCES DISCUSSION NUMBER 36
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT THU SEP 02 2004

ALTHOUGH FRANCES CONTINUES TO HAVE A GOOD SATELLITE REPRESENTATION
... DATA FROM A RECONNAISSANCE PLANE INDICATE THAT THE MINIMUM
PRESSURE HAS RISEN TO 948 MB AND THE EYEWALL IS CURRENTLY
DISRUPTED. INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN ADJUSTED TO 120 KNOTS. THIS
IS PROBABLY A MINOR FLUCTUATION ASSOCIATED WITH INNER CORE
PROCESSES AND FRANCES COULD EASILY RE-INTENSIFY. NEVERTHELESS...
FRANCES IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN A CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR/SIMPSON SCALE UNTIL LANDFALL.

FRANCES HAS BEEN WOBBLING DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS BUT THE OVERALL
MOTION APPEARS TO BE TOWARD THE NORTHWEST OR 310 DEGREES AT 9
KNOTS. THE CURRENT STEERING PATTERN OF A HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE TO
THE NORTH OF THE HURRICANE IS EXPECTED TO PERSIST...FORCING FRANCES
TO MOVE BETWEEN THE WEST-NORTHWEST AND NORTHWEST DURING THE NEXT 24
TO 48 HOURS ACROSS THE BAHAMAS AND UNTIL LANDFALL ALONG THE FLORIDA
EAST COAST. ALL TRACK MODELS INCLUDING THE GFDL AND THE GFS ARE NOW
IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT...INCREASING THE CONFIDENCE IN THE FORECAST.
DESPITE THE HIGH CONFIDENCE...IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT THE EXACT
LOCATION OF WHERE THE CENTER WILL CROSS THE COAST THIS FAR IN
ADVANCE.

AT THIS TIME...CHANGES IN THE WARNINGS AND WATCHES ARE NOT
NECESSARY.

FORECASTER AVILA

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 02/2100Z 24.1N 74.8W 120 KT
12HR VT 03/0600Z 24.9N 76.2W 120 KT
24HR VT 03/1800Z 26.0N 77.8W 120 KT
36HR VT 04/0600Z 27.0N 79.5W 115 KT
48HR VT 04/1800Z 27.7N 80.5W 90 KT...INLAND
72HR VT 05/1800Z 28.5N 83.0W 45 KT...OVER WATER
96HR VT 06/1800Z 31.0N 85.5W 30 KT...INLAND
120HR VT 07/1800Z 34.5N 87.5W 25 KT...INLAND


Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Here's a five day projection.....

After three days errors trend way up. That being said.... Head for the Hills!
Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Rush is evacuating!
Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Aussie politician, who still lives w/ his parents, sez Americans stupid
The man chosen by the Liberal Party to remove Mark Latham from his western Sydney seat believes Americans are "stupid" and "have no idea how dumb they are". Michael Medway, 25, also has advice for the "sad" people who drink Fosters Lager when overseas — "If you are that sad, stay at home, move to Rooty Hill and drink Fosters all night." The insurance salesman from Liverpool has won Liberal preselection for the seat of Werriwa, but his colourful language and controversial views will have voters mistaking him for the Opposition Leader. Mr Medway has spent much of the past two years travelling around Europe on Contiki tours and keeping a daily web diary — obtained by The Advertiser — for friends back home.

On a day trip to England's Stratford-on-Avon, the birthplace of Shakespeare, he became particularly incensed at a group of US tourists. "Once again the dumb American tourists appear with their uneducated, stupid comments. I have given up detailing these — I now just look at them and shake my head," he wrote afterwards. "I am sure that they have no idea how dumb they are." Frustrated by his inability to find an Internet connection at a nearby cafe, Mr Medway confided in his diary: "The American next to me couldn't get it to work — need I say anything more than silly dumb American bitch!"

Mr Medway needs a 17 per cent swing to defeat Mr Latham, but the release of his colourful diary is unlikely to catapult him into Parliament. Born and bred in Liverpool, Mr Medway told a local newspaper this week that his family home, where he still lives with his parents, was directly across the road from Mr Latham's former residence. "He was always a nice neighbour, but this area needs someone young and in touch with their concerns," he said, before a strategy meeting at Liberal Party headquarters last night. Prime Minister John Howard will use Mr Latham's past comments about US President George W. Bush as a strategic weapon in the lead-up to the federal election on October 9.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 09/02/2004 5:35:00 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Recall that the Liberals are Howard's party.

Once again the dumb American tourists appear with their uneducated, stupid comments... am sure that they have no idea how dumb they are.

Dumb, stinky, stupidy Americans. They're so...dumb. And stupid! And they don't know anything either, stupid dummies.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 09/02/2004 18:34 Comments || Top||

#2  The man chosen by the Liberal Party to remove Mark Latham from his western Sydney seat believes Americans are "stupid" and "have no idea how dumb they are". Michael Medway, 25, also has advice for the "sad" people who drink Fosters Lager when overseas..

I don't remember drinking any Foster's the last time I went down there. Nor any of the times previous to that.

Only STUPID people make generalizations like that, right Mr Medway?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 09/02/2004 21:00 Comments || Top||

#3  How can such STUPID people invent everything and be the richest and most powerful in the world??? It's NOT FAIR. Mummy, make them go away.
Posted by: ed || 09/02/2004 21:39 Comments || Top||

#4  ROFL, ed!
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 21:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Shuddup and eat your scouse, Mark.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/02/2004 21:56 Comments || Top||

#6  There's a dude with similar views making a 1100 km canoe journey from Australia to Indonesia right now. He could probably use some company.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 09/02/2004 22:16 Comments || Top||


Missing canoeist heads off again
The latest candidate for the Darwin Awards
AN American canoeist has again set sail for Indonesia, apparently in a protest against Prime Minister John Howard and US President George W. Bush.

Northern Territory police yesterday launched a huge air search for the 38-year-old man after he set out from Dundee Beach near Darwin about 11pm on Monday without safety gear and wearing only shorts and a t-shirt.

The man's 6m canoe was spotted by police on Bathurst Island, about 150km north of Darwin, yesterday afternoon. However, he did not stay on the island long enough for police to reach him, a police spokeswoman said today. Locals on the island said the man had again headed out into the Timor Sea in his canoe, reportedly after being told he was not in Indonesia.
I'm reminded of the scene near the end of the Beatles' movie, "Help" when a fellow walks up to them and they all point without saying a word.
Police will flip a coin make a decision this morning whether to continue their search for the man.

The man apparently told locals before leaving the mainland he was unhappy with Prime Minister John Howard and the presidents of Indonesia and the United States and was going to Indonesia to take action. Indonesia is about 1100km away.
Posted by: tipper || 09/02/2004 10:06:18 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Two words. Shark food.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 09/02/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Nice thing about the open ocean is it doesn't suffer fools easily. Write this chump off.
Posted by: Dar || 09/02/2004 13:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Another sterling example of voting with your feet paddle.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/02/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||


Europe
U.N. court imposes defense lawyers on Milosevic
The U.N. war crimes tribunal on Thursday imposed two defense lawyers on Slobodan Milosevic in an effort to end repeated trial delays and because doctors have warned that representing himself threatens the former Yugoslav strongman's health. The tribunal's judges named British attorneys Steven Kay and Gillian Higgins, until now court observers ensuring fair proceedings, as Milosevic's defense counsels. They will take over the case from Sept. 7 when his first witnesses are due to be called. he former Yugoslav president protested the decision to impose a lawyer on him and said he will appeal. Judges and prosecutors agreed Milosevic could still name a lawyer of his choice - his legal research is being handled by three assistants from Belgrade - and that he could remain actively involved in conducting his defense. "It is plain from the medical reports that the accused is not fit enough to defend himself," said presiding Judge Patrick Robinson.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 09/02/2004 6:12:49 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


What works (David Warren)
It is an axiom of human nature, true in all cultures at all times and places, that if you reward bad behaviour, you will get more of it. This is not rocket science, and yet in the name of "compassion" or from lesser desiderata, the fixed principle of those who are weak in heart and mind, is to go right ahead. "Liberals" I call them, but the reader may call them anything she pleases. They are the people who can always find a reason to reward bad behaviour -- invariably at the price of punishing the opposed good behaviour. This in turn leads to transvaluations of good and bad, demanding additional cartloads of "nuance".

The usual, if rarely acknowledged, reason to reward bad behaviour, is to avoid immediate pain, or more precisely to trade it -- less pain now, for more pain later. Cowardice has never been short of plausible arguments, and conversely courage requires at least a moment of silence, for the "still small voice".

Why am I moralizing? Because we have to start somewhere, in considering the latest challenge presented in Iraq; which, if it is not dealt with effectively and memorably, will soon be a problem far outside Iraq.

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: tipper || 09/02/2004 1:16:20 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  France should tell the perps that if they off the guys, Tehran is glass. See what a little, in your face looks like!

Regardless Tehran needs to go. Enough already!
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 2:06 Comments || Top||

#2  OBTW, Tipper. My old saying regarding that is, "Fertilise it and it will grow"
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 2:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Either way, it would appear that the French have had another opportunity to join the "coalition of the willing" against the international Jihad; but have again chosen to encourage it, and promote kidnapping, rather than take sides with the Americans.

I would rather have the Nepalese. They don't bring much baggage and they carry sharp knives.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 3:55 Comments || Top||

#4  one wonders when the French will get a clue. But you look back at history and realize...probably never.
Posted by: B || 09/02/2004 8:25 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Katie Couric Trashes Micheal Moore (!?!?!?)
She began by criticizing the scenes in Fahrenheit 911 depicting a pre-war Iraq of children peacefully playing and weddings taking place. "Wasn't that misleading?" Moore claimed he only used the footage to show the kinds of people killed by US bombing, not to suggest Saddam's Iraq was a "utopia."

Next, Katie said that "many people say the Dems don't want you to be the face of the party."

"Who said that?" demanded Moore. "Well, Tim Russert for one," answered Katie. She added: "let's face it, many people think you're a jerk."

An obviously hurt Moore responded: "but you don't think I'm a jerk, do you Katie?" Katie refused to come to his aid: "well, my views aren't important, it's the views of the Dem party."

"But come on, Katie, you know me."

"I really don't know you very well."

"But, come one, from talking after the shows, etc. You don't think I'm a jerk, do you?"

"I really don't know you well enough to say that."

Finally, in a scene so amazing I could hardly believe my eyes and ears, Moore virtually asked Katie out on a date, and was shot down with a classic co-ed line. Katie asked Moore if he'd be going back to the convention and Moore said he would, probably tonight and tomorrow. Then Moore added: "will you come with me, Katie?"

A shocked Katie replied: "No," then, incredibly, added: "I HAVE TO RE-ARRANGE MY SOCK DRAWER."
Democrats, much like Rugby players, eat their own when things get tough
Posted by: Secret Master || 09/02/2004 4:15:15 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, it's not as if he (shudder!) is exactly the answer to a maidens' prayer.
(pausing briefly to barf into the trash can at the very thought)
Sorry about that. Strong imagination, but weak stomach.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 09/02/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Katie Couric : Eeeeew cooties.
Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 16:38 Comments || Top||

#3  But, but, his heart is in the right place (for a lying socialist). Give a feller a chance Katie.
Posted by: ed || 09/02/2004 16:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Hmm...I may have to re-evaluate my estimation of Katie...

Umm... on second thought no, she still looks like a corpse and necrophilia definately isn't my thing....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/02/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Katie Couric : When, like, hell freezes over, Michael.
Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 16:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Sgt Mom ROFL! I doubt the press will turn on a dime against these LLL Hollywood types but this is a good sign. I didn't see it but I can imagine the fear in Katie's eyes and the churning in her stomach!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 09/02/2004 16:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Another red-on-red firefight. Happens when panic sets in.
Posted by: Matt || 09/02/2004 17:03 Comments || Top||

#8  I think the Dhimmicrats have come to realize that letting their psychos out to play is gonna cost them bigtime. Expect Mike al-Moor to become the sacrificial lamb.
Posted by: BH || 09/02/2004 17:25 Comments || Top||

#9  My that was a perky interview.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 09/02/2004 17:46 Comments || Top||

#10  Expect Mike al-Moor to become the sacrificial lamb. I'm looking forward to it.
BTW, did Couric give Mikey the "L" gesture when he asked her out?
Posted by: GK || 09/02/2004 17:50 Comments || Top||

#11  "Ain't it a shame,
to be shot down in flaaaames!"
Posted by: Bon Scott || 09/02/2004 18:16 Comments || Top||

#12  Exactly right, BH. The Kerry campaign is going down like a French whore at a media convention, and beating on Lumpy is an easy way to win some points with the undecideds.
Al Qatie hasn't defected, she's just displaying some activist discipline.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 09/02/2004 18:32 Comments || Top||

#13  Stolen Line #3456:

"Michael Moore couldn't get himself laid if he disguised himself as a giant floor tile."

Posted by: Anonymous6297 || 09/02/2004 18:40 Comments || Top||

#14  AC: A French whore who, by the way, served in Vietnam! ;)
Posted by: BH || 09/02/2004 19:12 Comments || Top||

#15  Anonymous6297, okay then, explain his "wife" and "children".

Actually, thinking of it, the children may be explainable--the mother is always certain.

Thusly, never mind... mystery solved!
Posted by: Zarathustra || 09/02/2004 19:20 Comments || Top||

#16  Anonymous6297, okay then, explain his "wife" and "children".

Money is an incredible aphrodesiac for some women.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 09/02/2004 19:33 Comments || Top||

#17  Katie's worked hard to become America's most loved TV dwarf! - Homer Simpson
Posted by: remote man || 09/02/2004 19:41 Comments || Top||

#18  Moore is a good place for a Stick-Up™
Posted by: Chris W. || 09/02/2004 23:40 Comments || Top||

#19  Moore versus Couric should have been a bout on celebrity death match.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/03/2004 1:50 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Belmont Club: Examining Views of Dick Morris & Hugh Hewitt
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 21:14 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Up, up and away!
Posted by: Atropanthe || 09/02/2004 14:59 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


New labor report probably will hurt Bush in Oct
The newest weekly unemployment benefit applications report:

In the week ending Aug. 28, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 362,000, an increase of 19,000 from the previous week's unrevised figure of 343,000.

Much of the increase is due to Hurricane Charley. Hurricane Frances may have similar effects. The Hurricane Charley effect will have minimal impact on tomorrow's BLS jobs surveys (remember there are two surveys; one of businesses, one of households). However, the Sept report, due out in Oct. will probably show a big hit in the FL numbers.
Posted by: mhw || 09/02/2004 1:14:07 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  New labor report maybe will hopefully will we pray will probably will kill maim martyr impale Bushitler in our wet dreams Oct.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 09/02/2004 14:56 Comments || Top||


Navy Challenging Kerry's Medals
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 09/02/2004 13:11 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wrong link folks. Try this one

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/2/120951.shtml
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 09/02/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Try this
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 09/02/2004 13:27 Comments || Top||

#3  That sucking sound you hear is Kerry's staff's buttholes puckering.

Enjoy the ride, J. FN. Kerry. I know I will.
Posted by: badanov || 09/02/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#4  It's all part of the Vast Right-Wing (Techno Brown Shirt) Conspiracy! I know because today I am wearing a brown shirt! Of course we all know that Bush ordered the Navy to investigate this in order to cover up his being AWOL (satire).
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 09/02/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||

#5  It's all part of the Vast Right-Wing (Techno Brown Shirt) Conspiracy! I know because today I am wearing a brown shirt!

Holy Hell! I am wearing a black shirt! Of course it has a drawing of Tux in the back and Linux on the front, but it's still black. ;o)
Posted by: badanov || 09/02/2004 13:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Torpedoes in the water! Two points off the starboard bow!
Posted by: mojo || 09/02/2004 13:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Torpedoes in the water! Two points off the starboard bow!

And a turn to port will sink her for sure.
Posted by: badanov || 09/02/2004 14:01 Comments || Top||

#8  let's back off on the guy. We want him on the ticket in November.
Posted by: B || 09/02/2004 14:13 Comments || Top||

#9  No mercy for traitors.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 09/02/2004 14:17 Comments || Top||

#10  No way the Dims can change the candidates now. The USA ain't Jersey.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 09/02/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#11  The MSM will ignore this as long as possible and then cover for Kerry on this.

However, given what Kerry said about ADM Mike Borda the cover will be interesting.
Posted by: mhw || 09/02/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#12  The MSM will ignore this as long as possible and then cover for Kerry on this
MSM: "The Navy's a bunch of cheap liars trying to besmirch OUR boys great war record."
Kerry campaign:"the Navy is the ultimate authority on the Kerry's war record."
MSM: "Er, oh, never mind...."
If When the SS Kerry sinks, I hope it takes the whole damn partisan media with it.
Posted by: GK || 09/02/2004 17:38 Comments || Top||

#13  You know... I can never remember how many medals IKE received.... didn't really seem to matter. Swifty John is missing the point and should run hard away from this.


Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 17:50 Comments || Top||

#14  Maria Theresa's keeping the bullets in a separate place. http://www.cnn.com/US/9605/16/boorda.6p/
Posted by: lex || 09/02/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#15  If they take away Kerry's Purple Hearts, does the Navy send Kerry back to Vietnam to finish out his tour?
Posted by: ed || 09/02/2004 18:08 Comments || Top||

#16  Shipman, it's probably too late for John to run away from his false embelishments and other fantasies. And as he himself said, “When you are the chief of them all, it has to weigh even more heavily.”
Some of the Clinton's old master spinners may be able to turn the tide, but then again who are they really loyal to? Hillary 2008
Posted by: GK || 09/02/2004 18:13 Comments || Top||

#17  I expect and hope you are right GK.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 18:44 Comments || Top||

#18  OK, I asked that question before. What is this with the claims that Silver Stars are not awarded with Valor when defendamerica.mil reports this:

Soldier Awarded Silver Star with Valor

"FORWARD OPERATING BASE WARHORSE, Iraq, July 20, 2004 — The 1st Infantry Division Commander, Maj. Gen. John R.S. Batiste, awarded the Silver Star medal with Valor, one of the highest military decorations, to Staff Sgt. Raymond Bittinger, an infantryman from the 2nd Battalion, 2nd Infantry Regiment and attached to the 1st Battalion, 6th Field Artillery, according to 1st Infantry Division officials."

What am I missing here?
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/02/2004 19:27 Comments || Top||

#19  By definition, the Silver Star medal award must show valor under fire. There is no combat V option for the Silver Star. The writer would have been better off writing "awarded the Silver Star medal FOR Valor".The bronze star medal (without combat V) can be awarded for performing a non-combat job really well, for instance putting together intelligence that leads to enemy defeat.

https://www.perscom.army.mil/tagd/tioh/Awards/SILVER%20STAR1.html
3. Criteria: The Silver Star is awarded to a person who, while serving in any capacity with the U.S. Army, is cited for gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force, or while serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party. The required gallantry, while of a lesser degree than that required for award of the Distinguished Service Cross, must nevertheless have been performed with marked distinction. Soldiers who received a citation for gallantry in action during World War I may apply to have the citation converted to the Silver Star Medal.

https://www.perscom.army.mil/tagd/tioh/Awards/BRONZE%20STAR1.html
3. Criteria: a. The Bronze Star Medal is awarded to any person who, while serving in any capacity in or with the military of the United States after 6 December 1941, distinguished himself or herself by heroic or meritorious achievement or service, not involving participation in aerial flight, while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United States; while engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force; or while serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.
b. Awards may be made for acts of heroism, performed under circumstances described above, which are of lesser degree than required for the award of the Silver Star. <-- with V
c. Awards may be made to recognize single acts of merit or meritorious service. The required achievement or service while of lesser degree than that required for the award of the Legion of Merit must nevertheless have been meritorious and accomplished with distinction. <-- without V
Posted by: ed || 09/02/2004 20:04 Comments || Top||

#20  OK, with all respect, but if the Pentagon can commit those "errors" on its website, then I think this issue is nitpicking to the extreme.
After all who writes those DD214 forms? Not Kerry, right?
So all you can blame Kerry for is not insisting on correcting an error by the regulations. An error that seems to be rather frequent since it keeps appearing on the Pentagon site.
With all respect, but there is really more important stuff about Kerry than that.
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/02/2004 20:28 Comments || Top||

#21  TGA, I think the question is whether the DD214 has been altered.
Posted by: Super hose || 09/02/2004 23:33 Comments || Top||

#22  Damn! One of my aides made a mistake, not I!
Posted by: John Kerry || 09/02/2004 23:35 Comments || Top||

#23  The Army and Navy have differing standards on how to award the V device for Valor.

Note the above links are ARMY, not NAVY.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/03/2004 0:19 Comments || Top||

#24  OK, I'm no expert in this. But I read that in another report that the Army does not award Silver Stars with V either.
I feel that if you start to dissect every detail, the big picture gets blurred.
I guess it was a mistake of the clerk who filled in the form and nobody noticed it. Probably just copied the upper line.
If you were going to "alter" (means fake) an official document, that would be rather stupid as he did get the Silver Star and the Bronze Star with V. (whether truly deserved is another thing). Document forgery for just a little (and rather useless) embellishment? Would be a felony, too, right?

I find it far more relevant that he threw his medals (sorry ribbons) away and now touts them ad nauseam.

Not to mention his other actions in 1971. But I guess these will be the September discussion.
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/03/2004 0:36 Comments || Top||

#25  OldSpook, I had an XO who had an award with a "V" on it that he got as a CIC watchstander for a Staff on a CV during the first Gulf War. As far as I can tell, Boorda would certainly have qualified for a V within Navy standards.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/03/2004 0:36 Comments || Top||


Rove: Kerry Tarnished Vietnam Veterans
EFL from Newsmax

[...]

'One Set of Rules for Billionaires Who Hate ...

Rove said the organization and special-interest groups working for Democrats should cease airing ads funded with unregulated contributions, or "soft money." Later, the campaign asked a court to force the Federal Election Commission to act on its complaints against anti-Bush groups that have spent more than $60 million in ads against the president. Outside Republican groups have spent far less, but they've vowed a late-campaign drive to close the gap.

"Can somebody explain to me why we have one set of rules in America for billionaires who hate this president and another set of rules for everybody else?" Rove asked.

He lashed out at liberal filmmaker Michael Moore for predicting a Bush defeat. "Michael Moore is known for wild flights of fantasy and delusion, and that's another one," Rove said. "I have no interest in meeting, seeing, hearing, talking, reading, or being in the presence of the man."
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Loony without conviction: Vote Swaps Revamped for 2004
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 03:34 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Help is on the way. While their methodologies may not be legal or even tested, a number of websites are cropping up to allow backers of presidential wannabes from alternate parties to vote their conscience without draining support for a preferred major-party candidate in a crucial swing state.

So-called vote-swapping, or vote-pairing, efforts under way for November's election largely mimic those that cropped up in 2000 to minimize the impact of Ralph Nader on Democrat Al Gore's chances of victory. Through such websites as like VoteSwap2000, Votexchange2000 and Nadertrader.org, Nader supporters in swing states agreed to vote for Gore if a voter in a solidly pro-Bush or pro-Gore state agreed to vote for Nader in their stead."
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 14:40 Comments || Top||


Kerry on Borda: (1996) false decorations 'very wrong'
EFL from WND
Amid questions about one of John Kerry's combat "V" decorations, unearthed remarks by the senator eight years ago reveal he judged an admiral's allegedly false awards as a serious offense that disqualified him from leadership.
After the suicide of Adm. Mike Boorda in 1996, National Review columnist Kate O'Beirne notes Kerry gave his response to two Boston papers. "In a sense, there's nothing that says more about your career than when you fought, where you fought and how you fought," Kerry told the Boston Herald. "If you wind up being less than what you're pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value and self-esteem and your sense of how others view you."

At that time, a left-leaning news service had raised questions about Boorda's combat "V" clip, which is awarded for valor under fire. The doubt was over whether Boorda's two tours in Vietnam aboard combat ships qualified him for the awards. The Washington Post reported Boorda's right to wear the clips apparently was supported by a Navy manual, but hours before he was scheduled to address the issue with Newsweek reporters, he shot himself. The Herald described Kerry as among the veterans who said although they would take offense at someone falsely wearing the "V" pin, they couldn't see how it would drive Boorda to suicide. "Is it wrong? Yes, it is very wrong. Sufficient to question his leadership position? The answer is yes, which he clearly understood," Kerry told the Herald.

Kerry also spoke with the Boston Globe. "The military is a rigorous culture that places a high premium on battlefield accomplishment," he told the paper.

Of Boorda and his apparent violation, Kerry said: "When you are the chief of them all, it has to weigh even more heavily."
[...]
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 3:15:52 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just more trash to help me despise this hypocrital assclown more. What a pathetic ingrate to use his service to trash his country and his fellow men in arms. Just more words of bullcrap Hanoi John.
Posted by: Bill Nelson || 09/02/2004 10:02 Comments || Top||


Daschle defends footage of Bush hug in campaign ad
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 03:19 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the Dasshole campaign has spent millions and Thune's leading. Once again they'll try and cover up Lil Tom's record in Washington to try and slip him unnoticed by the voters
Posted by: Frank G || 09/02/2004 8:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Daschle v. Thune, South Dakota Politics and a few other blogs are countering the Argus's monopoly up there. Daschle won't get off scot-free.
Posted by: eLarson || 09/02/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||

#3  I am saddened, saddened by this. Or is it shocked and saddened. Either way, it's sad.
Posted by: Crikey || 09/02/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#4  It is sad, very sad and a little shocking.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 17:51 Comments || Top||


Bush and the Firefighters (read and see why Bush will win!)
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/02/2004 00:08 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bush said the endorsement (Firefighters Union), nearly three years after he visited the World Trade Center rubble, was especially meaningful, "because the truth of the matter is, the inspiration I received from the firefighters on that site is something I'll never forget."

"To see the courage and compassion and decency of our fellow Americans during an incredible time of stress has shaped my thinking about the future of this country," he said. His eyes misted as he stood among the firemen, holding a black fire helmet that said "Commander in Chief."

====

Say what you will about G.W. Bush - but there is a man who genuinely loves this nation.

As a comparison, can you visualize John Kerry ever being able to generate a genuine emotion like this about anything other than himself?
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/02/2004 0:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Steve Cassidy did the right thing and voted with the wishes of the rank and file.

Peter Gorman looks foolish. He should have allowed a member vote before he endorsed Kerry. He went against the wishes of a majority of the fire officers.
Posted by: jawa || 09/02/2004 10:13 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm sure Kerry can pull a fireman's hat out of his ass and say something like: "See, I've bought got one too!"
Posted by: RN || 09/02/2004 10:18 Comments || Top||

#4  RN, I'm sure VC the wonder dog gave it to him during his last run to Cambodia on Christmas Eve '68.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/02/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||


Give 'em Hell Zell!
Carried over from yesterday

Links
Video
Transcript
Original Rantburg Thread
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/02/2004 12:05:20 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fred, Forgive me

#1 Oh baby! This guy rocks!

Ripping new anal orifices with every sentence. Wow!

How old is this guy? Wow!
Posted by: .com 2004-09-01 10:07:09 PM Comment Top Page Two

#2 he's on now!
Posted by: Frank G 2004-09-01 10:10:30 PM Comment Top Page Two

#3 best of rnc so far.
Posted by: muck4doo [http://www.meatismurder.blogspot.com] 2004-09-01 10:26:34 PM Comment Top Page Two

#4 Zell Miller stomped a good ole fashioned Georgia mudhole in sKerry's butt!
Posted by: Atropanthe 2004-09-01 10:39:38 PM Comment Top Page Two

#5 I'd put money on Zell in any standup fight. He'd whip Skeery with a stare-down alone. Edwards isn't that smart - he'd have to bitch-slap him once or twice... it'd prolly make him cry.

I'm amazed by the stable of hardcore solid people waiting in the wings in the Pub party. I only see one, one single person in the Donk party that I'd even talk to - Joe Leiberman. And the Dhimmis - dissed him like he was a leper.

Well, if Bush pulls this one out then it will be The Witch of Bottomless Ambition in '08.

Cheney's doing a little bitch-slapping of his own - he's too controlled to be a Zell, but he's damned solid. I would love to have been there when he got in Leahy's shit and dissed him eyeball to eyeball. I already know who blinked. Sorry Mucky, but this guy's 24K Gold - and you'd better get over it, lol!
Posted by: .com 2004-09-01 10:51:23 PM Comment Top Page Two

#6 Text of Miller's speech.

Yowza! Zell gave 'em hell!
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut 2004-09-01 10:53:39 PM Comment Top Page Two

#7 ATTA BOY, ZELL!!!
Posted by: Chris W. 2004-09-01 11:03:52 PM Comment Top Page Two

#8 Will anyone please do the *ahem* muckraking through DU to see how they're taking this?
Posted by: Edward Yee [http://edwardyee.fanworks.net] 2004-09-01 11:05:32 PM Comment Top Page Two

#9 HOLY SCHITSKIS! WHAT A SPEECH! Just amazing. He covered all the main points with facts and passion. And I read the transcripts, never heard the audio. He laid out the choices, plain and simple. My hat is off to you Zell. Masterful work.
Posted by: Alaska Paul 2004-09-01 11:07:06 PM Comment Top Page Two

#10 AP the speech was the transcript with ANGER
Posted by: Frank G 2004-09-01 11:09:22 PM Comment Top Page Two

#11 They're discussing Zell on Fox - and Mara Liasson & Mort Kondracke are saying he went into demogoguery on the point of saying our troops aren't occupiers, they're liberators and the Donks don't get it, that Kerry even thinks of them that way... Then it was pointed out that 90% of the DNC delegates were against the war and likely would have said precisely that.

Since the 2 Libsquirts on the Fair & Balanced panel are squealing, thus we know that he really hit 'em where they live - and it hurt.

Now the spitballs line is getting a good laugh, some of it nervous laughter.

And Bret rocks, as always. No one even comes close to him as a newsman, today.
Posted by: .com 2004-09-01 11:10:35 PM Comment Top Page Two

#12 EY - Regards Zell, here's one thread at DU... and another here...

Frightened, freaked, foaming, fucked. I think that covers the reactions.
Posted by: .com 2004-09-01 11:20:02 PM Comment Top Page Two

#13 *Reads Zell's speech*

:applause:
Posted by: Korora [http://basementburrow.blogspot.com] 2004-09-01 11:22:35 PM Comment Top Page Two

#14 *endures those DU threads*

You gave 'em hell, Zell! Way 2 go!
Posted by: Korora [http://basementburrow.blogspot.com] 2004-09-01 11:25:06 PM Comment Top Page Two

#15 Just as a sample of how much this freaks them out - look at this discussion thread list... They're all counting on various CNN, MSNBC, etc "personalities" to put Zell to shame, somehow. I don't think that any interview with Woofie Blitzer, no matter what Woofie did, would balance with the speech.
Posted by: .com 2004-09-01 11:25:22 PM Comment Top Page Two

#16 nice first thread, PD:
1)He's just a mother fucking dickhead who needs to get his syphillis checked after all the goats he's been porking.

This information from the Farm Animal Fuckers For Truth Organization
(FAFTO)
2)But there is another group who has documented evidence against Zell - the Pig-Fuckers of America. Zell is a card-carrying member. And now these heroic Goat-fuckers come forward - a truely great day for American politics!

jeesh. The party of hate is in rare form tonight....let's get em liquored up and have some fun
Posted by: Frank G 2004-09-01 11:27:07 PM Comment Top Page Two

#17 Zell was just on Hardball and he really laid into Mathews and his set up questions. It was hilarious! Zell yelled "get out of my face", "don't pull that stuff on me" and "I don't know why I came on this program" among others. Chris Mathews was dumb founded and ended up trying to kiss Zell's ass. lol
Posted by: jn1 2004-09-01 11:29:50 PM Comment Top Page Two

#18 OMG! I just saw Zell rip a new a**hole in Chris Matthews and challenge him to a freakin' duel. Zell got ALL over him about interrupting him when he tried to answer.

Zell gave a real stem-winder tonight and topped it off by totally Kobe-tizing Hardball guy. Zell made Matthews his bi-otch, big-time!
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian 2004-09-01 11:32:45 PM Comment Top Page Two

#19 Kobe-tized is a new word from Colorado used to describe 'rough anal sex'.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian 2004-09-01 11:38:08 PM Comment Top Page Two

#20 the democrats are coming apart at the seems on the DU.
Posted by: anymouse 2004-09-01 11:38:23 PM Comment Top Page Two

#21 For those who missed seeing Zell's speech...

While looking for the video of his tangle with Matthews (Lol - you should read the DUmmies!) I ran across Zell's RNC speech video - it's about 1/3 down the page - you'll see Zell's pic... It has the entire thing and seems to serve up just fine.
Posted by: .com 2004-09-01 11:39:01 PM Comment Top Page Two

#22 goddamer! go peek here maybe but dont tell im sent you or coment. thisn my litle place im go to. to janeane garafolo blog and dont coment:

link
Posted by: muck4doo [http://www.meatismurder.blogspot.com] 2004-09-01 11:40:54 PM Comment Top Page Two

#23 Arrgghhh LINK
Posted by: .com 2004-09-01 11:41:49 PM Comment Top Page Two

#24 .com, when you find the URL for the Zell interview, please post it.

I haven't seen forced anal sex like that since "Deliverance" and I am hoping to see matthews squeal like a pig (Zell IS from that paht of Goegia).
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian 2004-09-01 11:42:41 PM Comment Top Page Two

#25 Fred - any way to preserve this article and thread thru the midnight recycle?

This deserves it!
Posted by: OldSpook 2004-09-01 11:49:08 PM Comment Top Page Two

#26 im second ole spook. this is need be here tomorow.
Posted by: muck4doo [http://www.meatismurder.blogspot.com] 2004-09-01 11:53:32 PM Comment Top Page Two

#27 C-SPAN video of Zell's speech is here. Truly a "give em Hell Zell" performance.
Posted by: Classical_Liberal 2004-09-02 12:00:39 AM Comment Top Page Two
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/02/2004 0:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security but Americans need to know the facts.
The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40 percent of the bombs in the first six months of Operation Enduring Freedom.
The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.
. . .
The F-15 Eagles, that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's Capital and this very city after 9/11.
I could go on and on and on: . . .against, against, against.
This is the man who wants to be the Commander in Chief of our U.S. Armed Forces?
U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?


In all due respect Senator, you forgot Kerry has a secret army of Snowboarders and Windsurfers...



Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 0:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Yep. I'm here too. Saw Zell challenge Chris Spittle to a dual. Dems wern't watching though. To painful, so they were watching HGTV.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 0:17 Comments || Top||

#4  ALL YOUR ZELLS ARE BELONG TO US.
Posted by: anymouse || 09/02/2004 0:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Full Text

CSpan Video Index
Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 0:20 Comments || Top||

#6  Miller, Rudy, and Arnie blew away the Dems in their eloquence and vision -- only Obama on the Dems' side came close.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/02/2004 0:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Zell not only zinged Kerry, he zinged the media and all the other loony left wingnuts out there who think they're so brave for "dissenting" by slamming the war in Iraq. This was great - Zell was pulling people back to the real world, a world where there are people out there looking to kill us dead, even while the loony left fiddles. This guy is magic.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/02/2004 0:24 Comments || Top||

#8  BtQ / Lucky - Are they replaying the evening's stuff on MSNBC? What's on now, according to their website, preceeded the Hardball segment... Can one of you verify? If so, then they should show the Zell interview with Matthews sometime later... If you guys had MSNBC on, maybe you can tell us???
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 0:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Nope - nevermind, I'm mistaken. Still no Hardball video that I can find on MSNBC.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 0:27 Comments || Top||

#10  Calm down Dot. It's all good! He really did challenge Chris to a dual. Not sure how many paces though. My, what an interesting time we live in.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 0:40 Comments || Top||

#11  And also, Chris was a little unhinged. His style got in his way.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 0:47 Comments || Top||

#12  Best line of the night (Zell):

Armed with what? Spitballs?

Second best (Cheney):

Kerry sees 2 Americas. America sees 2 Kerrys.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/02/2004 0:48 Comments || Top||

#13 
Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 1:00 Comments || Top||

#14  I also liked the folks with the Flip-flops. The flip-flop chant had to of had Kerry in a tither.

I heard a bunch of things that had to of had Kerry all besides himself. What a great convention. The Pubs have the board.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 1:10 Comments || Top||

#15  Ship will like this...

Zell's confrontation with Matthews sounds like a true clash of cultures.

Matthews, a truly wussified Modern whatever convinced that he can say and do anything to almost anyone - and is immune to response or retribution.

Miller, an old-school Southern Gentleman and Statesman with values, pride, and clear-cut ideas of honor and appropriate deportment... and he suffers no fools.

This very clearly reminds me of Nathan Bedford Forrest's statement to his Commanding General, Braxton Bragg...

Forrest's scolding against Bragg in fall 1863, is regarded by some as the greatest insubordination speech ever given by a US military officer:

"You commenced your cowardly and contemptable persecution of me soon after the battle of Shiloh, and you have kept it up ever since. You did it because I reported to Richmond facts, while you reported damned lies. You robbed me of my command in Kentucky, and gave it to one of your personal favorites -- men that I armed and equipped from the enemies of our country. In a spirit of revenge and spite, because I would not fawn upon you as others did, you drove me into West Tennessee in the winter of 1862, with a second brigade I had organized, with improper arms and without sufficient ammunition, although I had made repeated applications for the same. You did it to ruin me and my career.

"When in spite of all this I returned with my command, well equipped by captures, you began your work of spite and persecution, and have kept it up. And now this second brigade, organized and equipped without thanks to you or the government, a brigade which has won a reputation for successful fighting second to none in the army, taking advantage of your position as the commanding general in order to further humiliate me, you have taken these brave men from me.

"I have stood your meanness as long as I intend to. You have played the part of a damned scoundrel, and are a coward, and if you were any part of a man I would slap your jaws and force you to resent it.

"You may as well not issue any more orders to me, for I will not obey them. And I will hold you personally responsible for any further indignities you try to inflict upon me.

"You have threatened to arrest me for not obeying you orders promptly. I dare you to do it, and I say that if you ever again try to interfere with me or cross my path, it will be at the peril of your life."

Reportedly, Bragg's face was totally white when Forrest left. After exiting Bragg's tent. Dr. Cowan told him, "Well, you are in for it now.". Forrest turned and replied, "He'll never open his mouth. Unless you or I mention it, this will never be known."

This incident was reported later in detail by Forrest's doctor, Dr. Cowan.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 1:12 Comments || Top||

#16  *************************************************
They are going to replay the Miller-Matthews confrontation sometime after this commercial break on MSNBC.

Who knows how much it has been edited.
*************************************************
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 1:14 Comments || Top||

#17  I love Zell Miller!
What a hero! What an orator! What a patriot!
Tonight was glorious!!!
Long live the Republic!
Posted by: GreatestJeneration || 09/02/2004 1:24 Comments || Top||

#18  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! W00t! W00t!

What a hoot! Perfect and just what I imagined from the great descriptions others gave here - Thanx! And I do believe ol' Zell would've slapped Matthews' jaws if he had bee in range. Kickass! I do love Zell Miller - it's like having my grandfather back, again. Awesome.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 1:29 Comments || Top||

#19  Great read Dot. Bragg was out menueverd and killed his men from one outpost to another. And the legend of Sherman had the patsy he needed.

Forrest could only play along. His interesting times.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 1:31 Comments || Top||

#20  Forrest never lost a battle. Period. If you have any interest, his biography is absolutely fascinating. He kicked some serious ass.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 1:36 Comments || Top||

#21  I'm missing all the good fun. I got stuck with Wolf Blitzer...
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/02/2004 1:37 Comments || Top||

#22  .com, 2 more domains for you!

www.spitballs.net
www.spitballs.org

(.com is taken but nothing there)
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/02/2004 1:40 Comments || Top||

#23  Here is most of the Hardball interview. Tried to link it but wouldn't work. HT to Polipundit

http://tiger.towson.edu/users/bstelt1/miller.wmv
Posted by: jn1 || 09/02/2004 1:40 Comments || Top||

#24  W00t!

Thanx, jn1!!!

It is cut off before it was over, but it included a couple of bits MSNBC edited out of the replay (wonder why?) - the moment where he tells Matthews to shut up and that there's no point in asking a question if he's going to talk over the answer - and Matthews says, "Yes sir." and STFU! Great moment. Absolutely great!
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 2:00 Comments || Top||

#25  TGA - Good ideas, in fact! But (true to my nym) I collect only .Com's, lol! Tis true!

The one domain I sold that I wish I had kept was FooFoo.com. I think it's another wasted domain, now. But the $ let me buy a bunch more, heh.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 2:03 Comments || Top||

#26  Just saw it...
I knew why I like the South!
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/02/2004 2:04 Comments || Top||

#27  LOL... but as they say, it's not the size domain, it's what you make of it!
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/02/2004 2:07 Comments || Top||

#28  Lucky - read this single page about Forrest at Fallen Timbers. We're talking Big Brass Balls and the most awesome fighter of either side in the Civil War.

The most hardcore guy the North had, General Sherman, had a little to say about this - he was there and witnessed Forrest's charge... Check out what he says privately, at the top, versus his official report, which follows. Lol!

And this sort of action by Forrest occurred throught the war. Brice's Crossroads is another classic - which is studied in detail for the fact that it was hopeless - yet Forrest turned it into a victory.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 2:14 Comments || Top||

#29  TGA - LOL!

Like this?

You'll get a kick out of the Forrest stuff, too. A great fighter.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 2:17 Comments || Top||

#30  Great story indeed.
Too bad that great men had to fight against each other then.
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/02/2004 2:23 Comments || Top||

#31  So true. When I was a kid he was my hero. Lol, he still is, heh. When I went into the Army I found that super-aggressiveness actually paid off - and I feel like I owe my life to old Forrest and his example. And now? Well, I drive the same way and that paid off in Saudi, lol!
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 2:29 Comments || Top||

#32  TGA - Need a fun domain name for a personal blog - or even an on-line memoirs? You should write it, you know. *wags finger* Lol!

How about (all .com's) clickhell, gr8wit, slackercafe, wankercafe, zonercafe, gridcafe, gridwilling, zensane, zenshallah, or zenhead?

BTW, truegerman and truegermanally are both available, heh.

Lol!
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 2:41 Comments || Top||

#33  Dot. Is that poetry or what! The headlines were always in Virginia but the action was out west.

Southern cav, I think, is still in our militaries genes.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 2:51 Comments || Top||

#34  .com, did you see this story of Retired Rear Adm. William L. Schachte Jr? Novak has interviewed him about Kerry's first Purple Heart, but the Schachte's story is pretty incredible itself. As a Lt(jg) he is certain that he was aboard a motorwhale boat with Kerry when JFK injured himself with a gernade launcher. Schachte is sure because he developed the "Batman" technique and rode along on every mission that "Batman" was used. "Batman," it turns out, is the technique of flushing enemy fighters by offering up a motorwhale boat as bait. Schatchte must clang when he walks.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 3:28 Comments || Top||

#35  Old Spook, here is one that you could have written.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 3:37 Comments || Top||

#36  Zell Miller was unbelievable.
Truman and Rayburn have risen from the grave.

I saw that weird harpy Susan Estrich gibbering like a drunk baboon trying to bad-mouth him but she could only drag up his ancient record, and only innuendoes about that.
She gave him a zero with no other explanation, as though her yattering ass were the unimpeachable arbiter of eloquence.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 09/02/2004 4:15 Comments || Top||

#37  Mathhews looked like a scolded dog! Zell totally ripped into him, and even mentioned how Mathhews treated Malkin.

"Fatality: Zell Miller Wins!"
Posted by: Charles || 09/02/2004 5:37 Comments || Top||

#38  SH - Sorry - I went shopping - it's great at 1:30 AM! I saw the Novak piece - and read about his always being on board the Whaler - thus Skeery's BS story about his first mission, being alone on the Whaler, lol, is just more Skeery BS. And he was, indeed, the Batman with his unique homebrew technique for drawing fire. A Good Man - among men - and that's as good as it gets. Melike!

AC - Agreed! Susie Estrogen and CC whatever (WaPo slug) are on now saying Miller was frowning and mean and negative - and that he hurt the ticket... LOL! Sure as hell he didn't among men. Among the wymyns, well we've heard from Jen - I guess we'll have to hang on a few hrs to see what our other Femalian RBers thought. I believe that he may have grabbed the undecided wymyn too - because of the family being more important than party, and that was why he was there to speak. Solid logic and solid appeal in that for wymyn, I think. I saw Estrogen transform from her all-eyes and smoky voice persona to all teeth, full screech, and eyes popping out maniacally angry once. Not a pretty sight, lol! She sucks so much I can't figure why the Donks parade her around.
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 5:37 Comments || Top||

#39  Watch Zell skewer Matthews here. It's the second video down.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 09/02/2004 7:31 Comments || Top||

#40  The spin from the left was near-instantaneous. I started on FNC. Mara Liasson "Zell looked angry, I don't know how it will play on TV." Over on CNN, Wolf Blitzer and company were ganging up on someone talking about how "Zell went too far". Chris Matthews was hyperventilating directly at Zell, and Zell was having NONE OF IT. "I wish I could be there so I could get a little closer to your face," he said.

He's been my favorite Democrat for awhile. This demonstrates why in no uncertain terms.
Posted by: eLarson || 09/02/2004 9:42 Comments || Top||

#41  Zell is my boy. Matter of fact, Miller / Leiberman 2008 would squash a Clinton / (misc. commie) 2008 ticket for the Donks.
Posted by: Chris W. || 09/02/2004 10:04 Comments || Top||

#42  I guess we'll have to hang on a few hrs to see what our other Femalian RBers thought.

Zell at RNC: Bloodied Kerry up but good-entirely deserved and a pleasure to see. Hurt the ticket?-hahaha. I think some other aspects of the convention will alienate a considerable number of independents/undecideds, but not Zell's speech. He was spectacular last night, and as was the case with Rudy's and McCain's speeches, his speech hit exactly the issues Americans are agitated with Kerry about. This should beef up Bush's numbers in the south.

Zell at Hardball-You guys are real teases, you know that? I am dying to see it, but this PC has no soundcard. From what you say, it sounds like the host of Hardball better learn how to take a punch if he wants to play with the big boys.

Posted by: jules 187 || 09/02/2004 11:00 Comments || Top||

#43  I love Zell! Chris reminds me of the first timer I went deep sea fishing and realized I had three fish on my line. It was more than I wanted or could handle!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 09/02/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#44  Does anyone have the video of this (the dailyrecycler link doesn't have it anymore)?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/02/2004 13:36 Comments || Top||

#45  CF - Here's another link where you can download it... Looks like the whole thing (9:43). Enjoy!
Posted by: .com || 09/02/2004 14:17 Comments || Top||

#46  Zell is the face of the Democratic Party of yore, before Communistist infiltrated and changed the face of the party. Listening to Zell brought FDR and Truman back to life.
Posted by: Mandy || 09/02/2004 15:46 Comments || Top||

#47  Dear DNC, If you found my speech inflammatory, mean spirited, harsh, non-pc, and angry good it was supposed to be! You can kiss my southern ass if you don’t like it! P.S. if any of you want to ‘discuss’ this man-to-man I will be in the parking lot at recess!
Posted by: Zell Miller || 09/02/2004 16:42 Comments || Top||

#48  Damn posted on wrong Zell link. hehe

A day late and a dollar short...saw this thread at work earlier and was finally able to read and watch (Thanks .com!) it just now. WOW! Powerful speech. No punches pulled there. He's a feisty old bastard...and I love him! If only the Democrats had more people like him, then maybe I would give them a look. Fat chance in the next 50 years is my bet.

Best line....And, no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

That must be the most truthful sentence ever uttered by a politician in modern times.

Final Note: Chris is an absolute fraud. I guess that's the Dem's version of what O'Reilly is suppose to be like. Unfortunately, he's WAY more Howard Dean then Bill O'Reilly.
Posted by: 98zulu || 09/02/2004 16:46 Comments || Top||

#49  Please don't hurt me.
Posted by: Chris Matthews || 09/02/2004 16:47 Comments || Top||

#50  Thank you, Sen. Miller, for showing The Caveman how a true gentleman thinks, speaks, and acts.

- Michelle Malkin on her website today
Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#51  Chris can only bully around small Asian women. I listened to the piece and what a JERK! I bet Chris stays a fair distance away from miller for a while.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 09/02/2004 17:02 Comments || Top||

#52  Excellent NBF post .com.
Weird thing is Braxton Bragg damn near kept the war going another year or so with his hail mary valley campaign in '64. Grant had to yank a corps out of Petersburg to handle the threat to Washington.... which by then had been deluded of it's fortress troops.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 17:57 Comments || Top||

#53  By the way, someone must be reading rantburg:

http://www.spitballs.net/

is now a live domain.
Posted by: OldSpook || 09/02/2004 23:41 Comments || Top||

#54  You see how it goes:
A German has the idea.
An American realizes it.
Posted by: True German Ally || 09/02/2004 23:43 Comments || Top||

#55  Dawned on me late last night that it was Jubal Early not Bragg who freaked out Washington in '64.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/03/2004 7:43 Comments || Top||


Zell Miller and Chris Matthews in a huge fight right now
Turn on MS NBC
Z. Miiler and Mathews were in a huge fight! Watts started getting mad ad Chris Mathews too. If you had your tivo going put a link up for others...
I watched it! Best part was when, in response to a snarky question from Matthews, Zell replied that "it was a metaphor", pronouncing metaphor as "meta'fer". They were on a split screen, and you could see Matthews' face as he was thinking "what the HELL is a 'metafer'?" My southern wife was giggling hysterically over that one.
Posted by: 3dc || 09/02/2004 12:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh, excuse me Chris, you're from Massachusetts, I said, met-a-faa.
Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 0:08 Comments || Top||

#2  I loved it when Zell put Chris Spittle on the line about how he talked over him like he did to Mechelle Malkin. Mechelle, a southern Gent upheld your honor. May you except it as thus.

Don't know about you but I wacthed both conventions. After all the dims shit about sitting on the back of the bus, lunch counters, and yawn and yawn, then the Pubs had an event!
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 0:28 Comments || Top||

#3 
Posted by: BigEd || 09/02/2004 0:57 Comments || Top||

#4  You got it right BigEd. Chris's star took a big hit.
Posted by: Lucky || 09/02/2004 1:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Chris Matthews can openly abuse a syndicated columnist (Malkin) any day of the week, but a sitting senator (Miller)? I wonder if the guy values his job.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/02/2004 1:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Sorry to bust your bubble .com but Forrest did lose a battle. He lost the Battle of Selma, Alabama. He only had old men and kids from the Home guard, however. That was the only one.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/02/2004 16:06 Comments || Top||

#7  A day late and a dollar short...saw this thread at work earlier and was finally able to read and watch (Thanks .com!) it just now. WOW! Powerful speech. No punches pulled there. He's a feisty old bastard...and I love him! If only the Democrats had more people like him, then maybe I would give them a look. Fat chance in the next 50 years is my bet.

Best line....And, no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

That must be the most truthful sentence ever uttered by a politician in modern times.

Final Note: Chris is an absolute fraud. I guess that's the Dem's version of what O'Reilly is suppose to be like. Unfortunately, he's WAY more Howard Dean then Bill O'Reilly.
Posted by: 98zulu || 09/02/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Vietnam's New Religious Ordinance Under Fire
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 03:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  These are the guys who Kerry wants to establish a sunshine policy with... but he promises to be like iron with Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Yeah, yeah, yeah: and these are the people Bush and his crowd of Islamic fundamentalist ass-lickers are funded by, not just a sunshine policy, a sunshine policy straight out of their fundamentalist terrorist ass.
Posted by: Anonymous6290 || 09/02/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Lop Ear check
Yello Belly check
Serf check
Anon check

Put in your sightings book, it a little baby serbian lop earned troll
Posted by: Shipman || 09/02/2004 18:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Shipman, whenever I see an "anon" troll, I think of the scene in the Big Red One where they decide to just call some new platoon members "New Guy 1" and "New Guy 2," because they would be gone so fast it wasn't worth learning their names or giving them nicknames even.
Posted by: Super Hose || 09/02/2004 21:59 Comments || Top||

#5  It's gonna get worse RB'ers - smell the troll fear and desperation...smells like...victory
Posted by: Frank G || 09/02/2004 22:35 Comments || Top||


Anwar Ibrahim released from prison
Malaysia's highest court freed former deputy prime minister Anwar Ibrahim from prison today and he was expected to quickly travel to Germany for surgery to treat a back injury stemming from a police beating in 1998. The 2-1 ruling by a panel of the Federal Court overturned a sodomy conviction and came six years to the day that Anwar's mentor-turned-nemesis, then-Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, fired him as his deputy and heir-apparent and ignited Malaysia's worst political crisis in decades. Prime Minister Ahmad Abdullah Badawi, who succeeded Anwar as Mahathir's hand-picked heir, had been expected to eventually take a softer line toward Anwar and put the divisive issue behind Malaysia since he took office last year and won an overwhelming electoral mandate in March. The decision came six years to the day that Anwar was sacked. Anwar and his supporters have insisted the charges were politically motivated and aimed at ousting the former deputy prime minister to prevent a leadership challenge to Mahathir. The Federal Court earlier rejected his appeal against a six-year sentence for corruption, but Anwar completed that term last year after it was cut by one-third for good behaviour.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 09/02/2004 2:46:10 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: Subsaharan
How oil brought the dogs of war back to Malabo
Long piece in the Independent on the attempted coup in Equatorial Guinea. I didn't know Frederick Forsyth had chosen this country as the basis for The Dogs of War.
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