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2004-09-02 Russia

Putin Plan Not Stopping Chechen Bloodshed

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Posted by Zenster 2004-09-02 12:51:43 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Poking a stick in the eye of the Russian state has always been a very bad idea, leading to massive death and destruction for the eye-poker as a general rule. Since Peter the Great, at least, and quite possibly long before that...

Posted by mojo 2004-09-02 5:44:07 PM|| 2004-09-02 5:44:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Folks, if Russia blows up, we're screwed. Former SU nukes will be on suitcases faster than you can wire money from Paris to Dubai.

BTW, "blowing up" means a collapse of the central Russian state and dissolution of Russia into one island of western prosperity (aka Moscow) surrounded by various mafiya/FSB/governor-bandit fiefdoms and a Chinese proxy in the Far East.

Time for us to get serious about intensive cooperation to Putin to help him fix that toxic waste zone that is the Russian military in exchange for an end to Russian support for Iran's nuke program and a massive increase in US trade and investment into the Russian oil industry. France and Russia are both trying to balance us and the muslims. But whereas France is not an ally, never will be, and is already gone over to the EUrabians, Russia can be transformed into a friendly rival given the right diplomacy.

New Entente: US + Israel + India + Turkey + Russia. Dream it, believe it, make it happen.

Posted by lex 2004-09-02 5:50:13 PM|| 2004-09-02 5:50:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Given how more EU members supported the US in the war on Iraq than opposed it, what *exactly* do you mean by "EUrabians"?

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-09-02 7:43:30 PM|| 2004-09-02 7:43:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 EUrabians=those EU members that opposed the US liberation of Iraq (notably Fwance, Germany, Belgium). Also those that took the chamberlain exception in the course of affairs later on, like Al Andalus (former Spain).

Posted by Zarathustra 2004-09-02 7:48:58 PM|| 2004-09-02 7:48:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Aris, you've been calling the cards on Putin's plays very well. What do you forecast for the schoolchildren hostage crisis and, moreover, how this (if it does at all) will or should affect Russian-Iranian nuclear cooperation?

Posted by Zenster 2004-09-02 8:31:05 PM|| 2004-09-02 8:31:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I don't have any interesting predictions: I don't believe that it would affect the Russian-Iranian relationship much. It's based on profit after all, not on ideals. (And I believe the Iranians have been careful not to support the Chechens so far).

As for the hostage crisis itself, well since the Russians abandoning the whole of Chechenya because of this seems rather implausible, I imagine it would end in bloody massacre with all the terrorists and dozens of children being killed. I hope I'm wrong on this.

On the longer term, I imagine that Putin and Russian media might use this North Ossetian tragedy to encourage acting to save *South* Ossetia from a Georgian-Chechen presumed alliance.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-09-02 10:03:46 PM|| 2004-09-02 10:03:46 PM|| Front Page Top

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