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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Oklahoma U. Bomber was Suicide - no wider damage -local newspaper link
also see www.oudaily.com (the college newspaper) and wwww.newsok.com (Oklahoma City - metro area paper)

There was an individual suicide across the street from the stadium about 7:30 pm Saturday, during the second quarter of the football game. There were no other deaths or injuries. A second suspected device was exploded by bomb experts, but is said not to have been an actual bomb. Apparently, FBI and local law enforcement continue their investigations. The deceased has not yet been identified, because the priority has been to protect the public.

This info comes from my brother the perfessor at OU-Norman, who was not at the game. He lives an 8 minute drive from the stadium, and was unaware of anything until he opened his morning newspaper. Although a bang apparently could be heard within the stadium, there was no panic -- law enforcement was on top of things immediately.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2005 16:40 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sorry, that link is of course http://www.normantranscript.com/
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/02/2005 17:01 Comments || Top||

#2  The deceased has not yet been identified, because the priority has been to protect the public.

Uh-huh. We're supposed to believe the deader wasn't carrying a wallet? No one's been reported missing? That no parts survived?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/02/2005 17:41 Comments || Top||


U. of Oklahoma Blast Is Apparent Suicide
Ok, this seems more like a suicide than an homicide bombing; still, I wonder what was the religion of the suicidee, me being a bigot and all, and if he acted as a copycat?

NORMAN, Okla. - One person was killed in an explosion near a packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma on Saturday night in what authorities said appeared to be a suicide.

The blast, in a traffic circle about 100 yards from Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, could be heard by some in the crowd of 84,000, but university President David Boren said no one inside the stadium was ever in danger.

"We are apparently dealing with an individual suicide, which is under full investigation," Boren said in a statement. There was no information about the person who was killed, and no reports of any other injuries.

A police bomb squad detonated explosives found at the site of the blast. The area near the stadium was searched by bomb-sniffing dogs.

Jaclyn Hull, an OU freshman who left the game shortly before the explosion, said she saw "a little bit of smoke, about as much as you would see coming up from a grill."

Officers cordoned off an area west of the stadium after the explosion and nobody was allowed out of the stadium for about a half-hour after the blast, which occurred shortly before 8 p.m., about halftime of the Sooners' game against Kansas State. The game continued.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/02/2005 11:39 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I find this story both unsatisfying and incomplete.

First they claim it was a suicide.

Then they claim that the swat team "Detonated Explosives" at the site of the blast.

These two reports indicate a partial explosion, leading me to think that it went off prematurely and was an incomplete explosion.

That just plain does NOT add up to Suicide.

I remember reading of radio that was used to blanket potential bombing targets to prevent "Boomers" from getting near enough to carry out their Bomb plans, this is what I think really happened.

First, the only safe way to carry explosives is to keep the detonator away from the main charge until needed.

I think a radio "Blanket" set off his detonator as he was approaching the Stadium, and before he had connected it to the main charge.

They ARE correct, it was indeed a "Suicide" but didn't go off quite as planned.

I think that a Suicide Bomber failed.

Good.


Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/02/2005 12:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Did OU loose again?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/02/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#3  I think the 48 hour rule needs to be applied here - there are too many stories going around at the moment.

The freeper thread is currently over 1900 comments long!
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 10/02/2005 15:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Whbat was the gist?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 10/02/2005 15:40 Comments || Top||

#5  There's too many differing opinions Mrs D. That's one of the reasons I say we ought to wait 48 hours. One thing is for sure - with 84,000 people at the match, there's going to be plenty of stories floating about.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 10/02/2005 15:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Yah, we've got to give the Authorities time to come up with lies reasons this isn't terrorism, just like with time they came up with lies convincing explanations the shooting at LA International wasn't terrorism...
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 10/02/2005 15:55 Comments || Top||

#7  I like the idea of a radio setting off the bomb. Makes sense, and a big college game would have a cluster of TV trucks pumping out a lot of RF.

I suspect we'll be told this fellow just meant to commit public suicide, but we'll find out later he's a ROPer, made jihadist noises, and had promised to make the news in a big way.

He just fucked up prematurely detonated.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 10/02/2005 16:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Reports of a second explosive device take this out of the suicide category for me.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/02/2005 21:15 Comments || Top||

#9  maybe a perfectionist?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2005 21:45 Comments || Top||


Soldiers have front line sex orgy
GREEK Cypriot soldiers involved in a wild sex party at a guard post on the divided Mediterranean islands Green Line were banished to remote corners of the country as punishment, a newspaper has reported.
"But, sir! Cyprus doesn't have any Aleutians!"
"Shuddup. Get on the bus!"
Politics Daily said up to 10 army recruits were involved in an all-night romp in the Nicosia sector of the no-man's land with a mother-of-three who had them queuing up for more. "The soldiers formed an orderly line outside the room waiting to have sex one-by-one. At one point two soldiers came along to serve food, even they didn't leave unsatisfied," it said.
"Here's yer chow! Hey! Can we have some o' that, too?"
Although the woman happily went through the ranks, from lowly privates to the officer in charge, military top brass frowned on her escapades.
Obviously they weren't there...
The troops were undone when one of the participants decided to capture the moment with his mobile phone and forwarded the video images to fellow recruits.
"Hey, y'all! Look what we got!"
Army chiefs got wind of what was going on and an internal inquiry was launched.
Memo to Chief of Staff:
Why can't we get that sort of thing here at headquarters?
Those involved were disciplined and had time added on to their length of service, which is 24 months for conscripts, Politis said.
I thought it was national service, not a jail term?
The Greek Cypriot national guard declined to comment on the report.
"I got nuttin' to say. Nuttin'!"
Cyprus has been divided into Greek- and Turkish-Cypriot sectors since 1974, when Turkish troops seized its northern third in response to an Athens-engineered Greek Cypriot coup aimed at uniting the island with Greece.
They obviously have more fun on the Greek side.
Posted by: Uling Croper3148 || 10/02/2005 09:04 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Orgy? Try TRAIN, that would be the proper terminology. Hey at least they were having sex with a woman.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/02/2005 10:40 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL!
Frank?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/02/2005 10:59 Comments || Top||

#3  I know, I know. We can only hope.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/02/2005 11:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Corporal Ar&s? Cleanup - Aisle 15!
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2005 11:11 Comments || Top||

#5  :-)~
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2005 11:11 Comments || Top||

#6  TOGA! TOGA!
Did the Greek officers make sure their enlisted were served first?
Posted by: Bluto || 10/02/2005 11:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Come to think of it has anyone seen Aris? But he is a Greek and not a Cypriot Greek. Maybe he was working under cover?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/02/2005 12:59 Comments || Top||

#8  Stationed in Samos, not Cyprus, alas, alas.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 10/02/2005 13:05 Comments || Top||

#9  The resort island?

That's bad?
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 13:09 Comments || Top||

#10  So how's the foot?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/02/2005 13:13 Comments || Top||

#11  IIRC something similar happened in Boulder a couple of years ago, but instead of being banished, those recruits are playing for UC this Fall. Damn armies have no sense of humor.
Posted by: GK || 10/02/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#12  .com> That's bad?

Only in the context of this newspiece. :-)

Shipman> Foot's quite fine by now, thanks for caring.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 10/02/2005 13:21 Comments || Top||

#13  Hopefully you have learned to keep it out of your mouth.
Posted by: Neutron Tom || 10/02/2005 13:26 Comments || Top||

#14  .com> That's bad?

Only in the context of this newspiece. :-)


Well, you probably don't want to find out about the new exchange program between the Greek Army and the Alaska National Guard...
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 10/02/2005 13:41 Comments || Top||

#15  "Only in the context of this newspiece. :-)"

Lol. Got it, heh.
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 13:42 Comments || Top||

#16  Engineers get to drive the train, we don't ride second or worse :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2005 13:47 Comments || Top||

#17  Here's to you finding an equally enthusiastic, but monogamous, femalian, Aris. They do wonders for the health, heh - vastly better than finding a good doctor, for example. ;-)
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 14:55 Comments || Top||


Liars' brains 'are not the same'
A University of Southern California team studied 49 people and found those known to be pathological liars had up to 26% more white matter than others. White matter transmits information and grey matter processes it. Having more white matter in the prefrontal cortex may aid lying, the researchers said. But the British Journal of Psychiatry said there were likely to be more differences in the brains of liars.

Participants were volunteers drawn from five temporary employment agencies in Los Angeles. Three separate groups were studied. The first consisted of 12 men and women with a history of being pathological liars; the second was 21 people who did not have a history of lying or anti-social behaviour. The third group consisted of 16 people with anti-social personality disorder but no history of pathological lying. They were studied to see if they showed the same brain make-up as liars.

The researchers drew up a list of criteria for lying, cheating and deceiving, including habits such as conning people or behaving manipulatively, and telling lies in order to obtain sickness benefits. They also assessed how much grey and white matter people had in the prefrontal cortex areas of their brains, using structural magnetic resonance imaging (MRI).

Liars were found to have between 22 and 26% more white matter than either those with no history of lying or those in the anti-social group.

The findings could not be explained by differences in age, ethnicity, IQ, head injury or substance misuse. This is the first study to show a brain difference in people who lie, cheat and manipulate others, the researchers said. They said the study could help research into areas such as people who feign illness.

The findings are in line with previous studies which showed children with autism are less capable of lying than other children. Brain neurodevelopmental studies of autism show people with the condition have more grey matter than white matter - the opposite pattern to the liars in this study. The researchers say the link between white matter and a deceitful personality could be that white matter provides a person with the cognitive capacity to lie.

Writing in the British Journal of Psychiatry, the research team led by Dr Yaling Yang, say: "To our knowledge, this is the first study to show a brain abnormality in people who lie, cheat and manipulate others.

"The results further implicate the prefrontal cortex as an important - but not sole - component in the neural circuitry underlying lying, and provide an initial neurological correlate of a deceitful personality."

They add: "Further studies are required to examine changes in brain anatomy during the critical neurodevelopmental period in childhood, alongside changes in lying ability, to test further our preliminary hypothesis on the link between prefrontal white matter and lying."

Dr Cosmo Hallstrom, a consultant psychiatrist in London, said: "The issue is always how much of our behaviour is under voluntary control and how much is innate.

"The finding of brain abnormalities lends weight to the idea that a strong component of such difficulties may well be beyond voluntary control at least in part."
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/02/2005 08:01 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Did Hillary sell Bill for medical experiments? I didn't realize she was that hard up for cash.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/02/2005 11:56 Comments || Top||

#2  she was the "control" sample - every bit as much a congenital liar, remember the "lost" billing records?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2005 12:19 Comments || Top||

#3  White matter transmits and gray matter processes. I wonder if the scientists chose to test liars because their submission for grant to test women vs men was shot down by the PC police.
Posted by: DoDo || 10/02/2005 14:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Is the extra white matter associated with all kinds of lies, or only White Lies? [wag]

I wonder if they simply went to the local Democrat headquarters?
Posted by: Jackal || 10/02/2005 17:26 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Magic Kingdom seeks out terrorists porn
Of the estimated 2.2 million Internet users in the Kingdom, the majority regularly try to access forbidden or indecent material, Arab News has learned. “Of those who log on to the Internet, 92.5 percent are trying to access a website that, for one reason or another, has been blocked,” said Dr. Mishaal Al-Kadhi, acting general manager of the King Abdul Aziz City for Science and Technology (KACST).
Comes as a surprise, huh? If they're not slaughtering infidels they're looking at ladies' genitalia...
KACST is not only the Internet gateway for the Kingdom but also acts as a filter for unsuitable material. The official said that pornographic material was one of the main items on the city’s “black list” which also includes gambling, terrorism and politics as well as anything contrary to Islamic beliefs. He said that since the royal decree was issued in 1998 choosing KACST as the gateway for the Internet in the Kingdom and authorizing it to act as a filter, a special committee had been set up to decide what should and should not be inaccessible. “A permanent security panel was established for this purpose. It consisted of members from 10 ministries, headed by the Interior Ministry,” he explained. A year after the panel’s establishment, 85 percent of the material on the blocked sites was pornographic with the remaining being what was deemed “inappropriate” for the Kingdom.
I, personally, enjoy cruising the porn sites in search of naked Arab women having sex with multiple Zionists...
Asked why he thought many of those who access the web in the Kingdom were looking for pornography, Al-Kadhi said that he did not believe the Kingdom was any different from other nations in the world regarding this phenomenon. He went on to note, however, that a new dangerous tendency has begun to sweep the Internet: People “have shifted from pornography to pedophilia.” He said that according to statistics from different countries around the world, there had been a global increase in the demand for pedophilia on the Internet. “Pedophilia has become a major problem in many countries. In Germany alone there are 30,000 people addicted to pedophilia and 20,000 others who are its victims. There is even a nationwide campaign there that asks people, ‘Do you like children too much?’” he said. He said that there was a similar problem in Italy too.

Al-Kadhi said that according to a Swedish official responsible for filtering the Internet there, “after Sweden passed new laws in the year 2000 aimed at preventing people from having sex with children, many had turned to their pets.” He said that these bizarre sexual preferences were being fought by the European Union with new legislation. “The governments of many European countries are now using ‘safer Internet’ from which this kind of material is filtered.” He pointed out that many committees were trying to increase public awareness of the phenomenon. “We (officials in Saudi Arabia) feel justified since we blocked this kind of thing from the very beginning and will continue to do so,” he said.

Al-Kadhi said that KASCT had received the Asia Pacific Information and Technology Award for providing the best software to block adult sites. The system uses “Robots,” a program that automatically blocks certain phrases on an adult website and has an accuracy of 99.9 percent, he said. Asked about the blocking of sites that promote terrorism, he said that KACST works only as a technical agency and that it blocks such sites when it receives an order to do so from the Interior Ministry. He explained that KASCT did not screen personal e-mails and would not do so unless it received a request relating to national security from the ministry.

Commenting on the blocking of websites which would permit Internet users to access information about other religions such as Buddhism, Judaism and Christianity, the official said that there were no laws to ban those sites but that KACST naturally made mistakes like any other group or organization. He said KACST had ignored requests from many people to block all religious sites except for Islamic ones. Any person, he added, may fill out a request concerning a blocked URL and send it to KACST, mentioning the reasons why the site should not be blocked. “The request is reviewed within 24 hours,” Al-Kadhi added. He said KACST was not to blame for the slow Internet dial-up connections in the Kingdom, adding that the problem was with the Saudi Telecom Company lines.
Posted by: classer || 10/02/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The kind of filtering these operations use is easily bypassed.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/02/2005 0:53 Comments || Top||

#2  No, it's not. There is only one "official" connection to the outside world - KACST. 90+% of the net connections go through it. The exceptions are Aramco, which has its own pipe but similar filters, and people with mucho wasta. To get an unlogged and unfiltered connection you have to pay the freight of living in a housing compound owned by someone who's very well connected - to the Royals - and thus is allowed to have a satellite dish net connection. Everyone going through KACST is screwed - they block almost everything -- the proxy sites, porn, politics, some of the search engines, and many of the chat sites. Hell, you can't even get to National Geographic.
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 2:17 Comments || Top||

#3  BTW, my ADSL connection, 256K/64K, cost me $200USD per month over and above my already outrageous rent in al Khobar. I was happy to pay it.
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 2:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Is this still unblocked?
Posted by: Shipman || 10/02/2005 11:04 Comments || Top||

#5  the circle of life, according to Al-Kadhi, huh?

Bonking goats and camels => seeking porn on the net => seeking pedophilia => Bonking pets (goats and camels)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2005 11:21 Comments || Top||

#6  lmao shipman
Posted by: Uninetle Hupating2229 || 10/02/2005 15:23 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Longwang Penetrates Taiwan, Sets Sights On Big Momma
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 05:38 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Turkish Leader Demands Full EU Membership
Turkey's prime minister said Saturday the mostly Muslim nation will only accept full membership in the European Union, warning Austria's ambassador to drop talk about an associate partnership in the group. The EU foreign ministers meet Sunday in Luxembourg to discuss Austria's insistence that Turkey be offered something less than full membership in the 25-nation EU, calling into question whether the bloc will open accession talks with the mostly Muslim nation on Monday, also in Luxembourg.

Austria has claimed to be speaking in the name of the majority of Europeans in saying it does not want Turkey as a full member. But Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan told Austria its proposal was not an option, Turkish media said. Increasing diplomatic pressure, Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul also urged European leaders to keep their promises and open talks next week on Turkey joining the union, warning that the country will accept no new conditions.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Turks are about to learn that the only nation the EU would give a harder time to than them would be Israel. At some point, even they will have to realize that no how, no way, is Europe ever going to let them in, or ever had any intention of doing so in the first place.

Practically speaking, even if they could pull off some strong bilateral agreements with their immediate neighbors, for their mutual advantage, Brussels would renounce all of them. Punishing all, just to keep their prejudice.

The future of Turkey lies South, not North.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/02/2005 10:03 Comments || Top||

#2  If this doesn't get the Turks into Europe, they could always try Vienna II.
Posted by: ed || 10/02/2005 11:56 Comments || Top||

#3  If I were Turkey, I would cut off oil to the EU. That'll teach 'em. [/sarcasm]
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/02/2005 15:51 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Darwin Award Contenders Choose Wrong Car to Hijack
A young man was shot to death and another was wounded early Friday while trying to carjack two FBI agents conducting surveillance in Reseda, officials said.

The incident remains under investigation, but officials said the would-be robbers appear to have targeted the agents randomly. The FBI declined Friday to identify the dead suspect pending notification of his relatives. The agency also withheld the identities of the injured suspect and two others arrested in connection with the incident because they are minors. The bureau said it will not release the names of the special agents, both of whom are assigned to the FBI's Los Angeles Division.

The bureau said in a statement that the incident began while two FBI agents were sitting in a parked vehicle near Vanowen Street and Corbin Avenue during an investigation of a violation of the Hobbs Act, which concerns extortion and robbery. The agents were "accosted by four young male subjects, at least one of whom was armed" shortly after midnight, the FBI said, and an altercation broke out when the young men tried to commandeer the agents' vehicle.

Two youths were wounded, one fatally, in an ensuing gunfight, although the FBI did not say how many shots were fired nor how many individuals had guns.

While the bureau did not specify the exact location of the incident, witnesses said Friday that it took place at a 24-hour coin-operated carwash at the southwest corner of the intersection.

David Petersen, who lives across the street, said he was watching television when he heard gunshots. "It was four or five in the beginning, then there was a slight delay and it was three more," he said.

Three suspects fled the scene but were eventually captured, officials said. The wounded youth was hospitalized in stable condition while the other two are in the custody of the Los Angeles Police Department, which referred all questions about the incident to the FBI.

Dozens of officers and agents spent hours searching the neighborhood after the shooting. As helicopters hovered overhead, some officers used dogs to search houses, witnesses said.

By Friday afternoon, motorists were washing Topanga Fire ash from their cars at the carwash. Next door, a locked preschool displayed a sign saying school would be closed "due to the shooting last night at car wash."

Tarlochan Dhillon, manager of a 7-Eleven across from the carwash, said the intersection was swarming with law enforcement when he arrived about 5 a.m. "I was shocked when I was told what happened," he said. "It's pretty safe in this area."

The FBI said a specialized team will investigate the shooting while local officials consider criminal charges against the suspects.
Posted by: lotp || 10/02/2005 07:48 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As a sidenote, I've got a joke pics yahoo group/mailing list operated by a south african (the webmaster of http://www.africancrisis.org/), which sends me weird pics and naugthy humor cartoons, that kind of silly things.

A while back he forwarded pics taken by one of his friends IIRC, with a cellphone or a light camera. The pics showed the bodies of two black men lying in the grass, near a car, at night, perhaps at a police scene crime... : the photographer and one of his friends were riding their car when they were carjacked, they shot back, and killed the two would-be carjackers (kudos to their coolness under fire and general toughness), and snapped some trophy pics.

Theses were a nice touch about present-day South Africa, a criminal nightmare, but they were definitively a change of tone from the usual mails of the group! ;-)
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/02/2005 8:43 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL I would repremand the FBI agents for allowing three to escape unharmed and only getting one kill. Send them back to small ars training.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/02/2005 10:45 Comments || Top||

#3  This could make the international version of Tales From The Cross-Fire Gazette.
Posted by: 2b || 10/02/2005 12:50 Comments || Top||


Rep. DeLay Admits to 'All Specific Charges'
Scrappleface, natch.
by Scott Ott

(2005-09-30) -- Rep. Tom DeLay, R-TX, who yesterday stepped down as House Majority Leader after a Texas grand jury indicted him, today confessed that he had "committed every specific offense enumerated in the indictment."

The three page 'bill of indictment' contains the specific allegation that the Texas lawmaker waived his right to avoid prosecution under the law.

Texas law requires that an indictment for criminal conspiracy be presented within three years of the alleged offense, but this one missed the deadline by 15 days.

"I cannot tell a lie," said Mr. DeLay, "I knowingly waived my right to legally dodge prosecution. Since I did this on the advice of my attorney, I guess that's what you call your criminal conspiracy. I feel dirty."
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 06:11 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I feel dirty?" Oh my. How about feeling like a liar, a cheat, dishonest...but...dirty? Eeek.
Posted by: beagletwo || 10/02/2005 9:15 Comments || Top||

#2  a liar, cheat, dishonest? Nice charges from a cowardly anonymous nymhole. Watch when all charges are dropped in front of an impartial (read not Ronnie Earle) judge. Earle needs to have all power taken away
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2005 10:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Yeah Frank, but Ronnie let the Hollyweird boys film the whole thing, so I'm sure he'll get a lot of royalties.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/02/2005 11:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Delay did in fact admit to the transfer of money through the RNC. Everyone is going to find out this is not a crime and that the Democrats do EXACTLY the same thing. How come no conspiracy complaint on the Dem leader? Oh that right it's only a crime to beat Democrats.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/02/2005 13:02 Comments || Top||

#5  can anyone say "load of crap"
Posted by: legolas || 10/02/2005 17:25 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Hilderbeast:: Give Katrina Relief Buck$ to Illegal Imigrants & Don't Deport
Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is urging the Department of Homeland Security to assure illegal immigrants that they will get their fair share of Hurricane Katrina relief aid without fear of being deported.

In a statement posted to her official Senate web site on Wednesday, Clinton said that the DHS should "issue a formal statement reassuring immigrant victims of Hurricane Rita and Katrina that they can seek help from relief agencies without fear of deportation or being turned over to immigration authorities."

In a letter written directly to Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff, Clinton and other Senate Democrats complained that they first asked for Katrina amnesty for illegals more than two weeks ago, but have not received a response.

"In fact," they said, "we were surprised and troubled to learn that DHS has placed some individuals in deportation proceedings after these individuals sought assistance, despite the fact that the government had previously encouraged all storm victims to come forward to seek help.

Posted by: Captain America || 10/02/2005 19:33 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ship 'em out of here and let Mexico give them their "storm assistance."

But don't worry, Hildebeast - I'm sure your Dem friends are figuring out a way for all the illegals that get sent home to vote for you anyway. From Mexico. :-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/02/2005 19:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Am I really understanding this correctly?! OMG. My blood is boiling mad over this mind set. So even though they are breaking the law by just being in our country, Hilary wants to give them money?
SEND THEM BACK!!!
Posted by: Jan || 10/02/2005 20:40 Comments || Top||

#3  oops, nice slip, Hildabeast....

this one's in the GOP playbook
Posted by: Frank G || 10/02/2005 20:56 Comments || Top||

#4  She's urging a Federal agency to commit a crime or ignore the law. That should mean jail time for her.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/02/2005 21:48 Comments || Top||

#5  I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

Having been so sworn, that makes the junior Senator of New York to be an oath breaker. Since she no longer recognizes the sovereignty of the United States or its Constitution, I would expect an honorable person to resign from office. However, in her case, what else would you expect. Heh. Say good bye to red country. 2008 just went out the windoe.
Posted by: Ebbineng Jineting9128 || 10/02/2005 22:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Unlock gun, point at foot, squeeze trigger.
Posted by: Korora || 10/02/2005 22:21 Comments || Top||

#7  In a letter written directly to Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff, Clinton and other Senate Democrats complained that they first asked for Katrina amnesty for illegals more than two weeks ago, but have not received a response.

Because, you stupid twits, they're not supposed to be here. They're not entitled to any of the benefits available to citizens and legal immigrants. How about getting those two things through your thick skulls?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/02/2005 23:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Ship 'em out and send Hillary with them.
Posted by: DMFD || 10/02/2005 23:50 Comments || Top||


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India prison inmates to live with wives
Posted by: john || 10/02/2005 09:04 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Tech
U.S. engineer faces arrest for exposing Airbus safety danger
VIENNA — Ever since the Mangans gave up their comfortable house in Kansas City, Kan., and moved here a year ago, the family has been living in a kind of suspended animation.

... Mangan was chief engineer for TTTech Computertechnik, a Viennese company that supplies the computer chips and software to control the cabin-pressurization system for the A380, which is being assembled at the Airbus plant in France.

In October, TTTech fired Mangan and filed civil and criminal charges against him for revealing company documents. The company said the information was proprietary and he had no right to disclose it to anyone. Mangan countersued, saying he had been wrongly terminated for raising legitimate safety concerns.

Unlike U.S. laws that shield whistle-blowers from corporate retaliation, Austrian laws offer no such protection. Last year an Austrian judge imposed an unusual gag order on Mangan, seeking to stop him from talking about the case.

Mangan posted details about the case anyway in his own Internet blog. The Austrian court fined him $185,000 for violating the injunction. And the Vienna police, who are conducting a criminal investigation into the matter, searched the family's apartment for four hours, downloading files from Mangan's computer as his children watched.
Posted by: Grinetch Ebbeack9361 || 10/02/2005 01:15 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Uh, maybe it's just me, but here's a hint:

Unless the foreign country you're living in is America (and maybe not even then), if you're going to publicize secrets that might get your employer into trouble - especially if safety issues are involved - move out of that foreign country and back to your homeland first before you open your mouth.

Just sayin', 's all....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 10/02/2005 15:18 Comments || Top||

#2  I'll add that to my list of things to avoid:

1) (Outdated) US spacecraft
2) Russian submarines
3) French designed aircraft
Posted by: DMFD || 10/02/2005 23:10 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Contaminated Liquor Kills 14 in India
At least 14 people died after drinking illegal home-brewed liquor sold at unauthorized shops in India's remote northeast, police said Saturday. The death toll was likely to rise because 61 others were hospitalized after drinking the noxious brew Friday night in Tezpur, a town 110 miles north of Gauhati, the capital of Assam state, police officer L. Bora said by telephone. Many of those hospitalized were in critical condition, a doctor said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters.

The liquor deaths triggered violence, with angry residents attacking government offices and torching half a dozen motorbikes and some shops, Bora said. The residents also tried to burn down the state excise tax office, which regulates the liquor trade. Bora said samples of the home-brew liquor have been sent to a lab for tests.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Councillor hacks woman's arm
MULTAN: A councillor-elect and his two brothers allegedly chopped off a woman's arm for not voting for him in the August 18 local council elections, on Friday. Councillor-elect Muhammad Iqbal Kaliani and his brothers, Jalal Kaliani and Bilal Kaliani, trespassed into the house of a labourer, Ghulam Qadir, in Jalalpur Khakhi village when Qadir was not at home. They tortured Qadir's wife because she had refused to vote for Iqbal Kaliani in the elections. The men later hacked her arm with a hatchet. The accused also fired in the air to threaten the villagers who had gathered to help the woman.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Level this fools town from space.

Anyone who doesn't do his up most to protect and honor all women deserves to be given a workout tied to the back of a pick up, just hope the fool can keep up.

Do not allow persons like this to pass on their genes.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/02/2005 0:42 Comments || Top||


MPA tortures election official
LAHORE: A Pakistan Muslim League member of the Punjab Assembly on Saturday allegedly tortured and wounded an assistant election commissioner of Kasur on accusations of not cooperating with the elected counsellors, BBC Radio reported.

According to police, the incident happened on Saturday morning when MPA Ahmad Khan came to Assistant Election Commissioner Abdullah's office and accused him of delaying the issuance of counsellors' cards, the radio reported. This resulted in exchange of harsh words between them ending in a scuffle. The staff of the assistant election commissioner's office said Khan tortured Abdullah physically, reported the radio. It said that Abdullah was seriously injured and admitted to the Kasur district hospital.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That'll teach 'im.
Posted by: imoyaro || 10/02/2005 3:29 Comments || Top||


ASI suspended for operating a brothel
LAHORE: Senior Superintendent of Police (operations) Amir Zulfiqar suspended Assistant Sub Inspector (ASI) Abdul Khaliq from duty for operating a brothel in Huma Block, Allama Iqbal Town. The Huma Block welfare society president complained that Abdul, posted to Police Lines Lahore, was operating a brothel at his flat and said that it was a matter of concern for residents. Amir appointed Iqbal Town Deputy Superintendent of Police Faisal Gulzar inquiry officer, who raided the ASI's flat and caught him red handed.
Posted by: Fred || 10/02/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Tech
Scientists discover moon orbiting so-called 10th planet
This is going to complicate Ramadan planning, I just know it.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/02/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  LOL, Dr Steve!

Y'know, Xena did have this little brat always hanging around...
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 2:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Yup, scenes like that kept me coming back every week for the next installment of Xena, Warrior Princess.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/02/2005 12:58 Comments || Top||

#3  The silly-assed Ramadan routine was a continuously evolving joke among the expats. Would Super Grand Dragon Imam Dingdong see his shadow? Would there be six more weeks of fasting? etc. etc.
Posted by: .com || 10/02/2005 13:03 Comments || Top||

#4  what I wouldn't give to be in that tub.
Posted by: NYer4wot || 10/02/2005 15:29 Comments || Top||



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