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Don Luskin's Joke Of The Day
The elderly American gentleman arrived in Paris by plane. At French customs, he fumbled for his passport. "You 'ave been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked sarcastically.

The old gent admitted that he had been to France previously. The official said, "Well zen, you should know enough to 'ave your passport ready for inspection."

The American said, "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it."

"Impossible!" the official sniffed. "You Americans alwayz 'ave to show your passports on arrival in France!"

The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained. "Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in '44, I couldn't find any Frenchmen to show it to."
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 4:35:02 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good one!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 05/27/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||

#2  In Belgium there was a museum of WWII paraphernalia run by a Scot amateur historian, who also acted as a tour guide for Battle of the Bulge vets. One day, he had guided one such vet back to the scene of a very small, company vs. company, but very critical battle, where he had fought. They route marched the area for several hours, then parted company.
On his return to the museum, the Scot received a phone call from the Belgian police, to ask his help, as they had found the remains of a German soldier who had died at that same battle.
Amused at the irony, he called the hotel where the US vet was staying, only to be informed that the vet had died late that afternoon of a heart attack.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 05/27/2004 17:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Ouch.
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 17:09 Comments || Top||

#4  I heard a similar joke about a British pilot landing at a German airport. Traffic controller was getting snitty and asked if the pilot had ever been to the airport before. The pilot answered, yes, in 1944 but I didn't land.
Posted by: ruprecht || 05/27/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Oh, and by the way, when I went to Europe in 1987 I had to get a visa to get into France. Crossed the border twice and nobody checked our passports, just flagged us through.
Posted by: ruprecht || 05/27/2004 17:20 Comments || Top||

#6  I enjoy bashing the French as much as anyone but this one is lame. Doesn't even produce a grin.
Posted by: Prince Abdullah || 05/27/2004 18:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Why, "prince"? Because it sounds more like a common occurence in Frogistan than a joke?

But then again, Frogistan is a joke.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/28/2004 0:35 Comments || Top||


Econopundit on WGN radio v Robert Reich tonight
OT Fred, but I want to get it out there.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 05/27/2004 2:39:57 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Tolouse-Lautrec and ze Socialism."
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 16:52 Comments || Top||


Girl: Mom sold me to be ’wife’
A Monroe County, New York grand jury is about to hear the story of a Rochester teenager who says her mother sold her for $3,000 to another family that forced her to do household chores and have sex with a 21-year-old man... According to the girl’s statement, Lapjani’s family is from Albania. The Democrat and Chronicle reported last year that the family members are refugees from Kosovo, a Serbian province bordering Albania and home to many ethnic Albanians.
And that would make them what religion???
Lutherans? Albigensians? No, no! Don't tell me! Lemme guess...
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 05/27/2004 1:32:58 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  God is great, baby, lemme tell you.

Wait till that so-called "mother" encounters some 300-lb butch lesbian in the women's state prison.
Fire up that tattoo pen.

She will "pray" to go back to the days of the athiest Albanian dictator, Enver Hoxha.
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Note: The 21-year old man first forcibly raped the 15 YO girl then her mother sold her to him as a 'bride' (no marriage took place) against her will (or else the mother would be 'shamed').

”’If you pay me I will let my daughter come to you,’” the girl [12 YO Sister to the victim] wrote, quoting her mother. “She also said she would sell her for $3,000 to $4,000. She kept talking about my sister and how she would own her.”

The 12-year-old said she heard her sister tell her mother that a man in the house had raped her. On weekends, the 15-year-old would call on the telephone and beg to come home.

”My mother told her that was where she belonged and that (the man) was her husband forever and if she left him she would die,” she wrote.

”My sister kept telling her that she was not going to be forced to do this and was going to tell someone. My mom beat her even more.”



Hope the mom and dad get to meed th Butches | Bulls of the state penal system. Things like this really piss me off.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/27/2004 14:26 Comments || Top||

#3  ”My mother told her that was where she belonged and that (the man) was her husband forever and if she left him she would die,” she wrote.

Sounds like a threat of an "honor" killing.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 05/27/2004 14:41 Comments || Top||

#4  The men's prison system usually handles molesters and those who facilitate such.
Papa will soon be Albanian mash.

The cry will be that people don't understand "Albanian Culture".

As the man is being handled by fellow inmates in prison, he will be told, "We understand your culture perfectly. This is called, 'Removing DNA from the genepool'".
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 15:21 Comments || Top||

#5  Sorry, I don't think he qualifies for a Darwin award- let's just erase him from history....or at least our minds.
Posted by: Curious || 05/27/2004 15:46 Comments || Top||

#6  " A Monroe County, New York grand jury is about to hear . . . "

Ahhh . . . the Rule of Law prevails again! Sweet.

Why don't I think New Yorkers will like what happened to this girl very much?

Posted by: ex-lib || 05/27/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||

#7  There Muslim of course. Albania and most of Kosovars are Muslim. Chalk another one up to the ROP. Show of hands who wants their daughter to marry a muslim?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 05/27/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#8  What happens to the Orthodox Christian minority in Albania?

John Belushi had an Albanian Orthodox Christian funeral after he OD'd on Heroin.
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#9  Big Ed, I think that there is a SMALL minority of them still in Albania. Most fled in between wars to Greece, Serbia, and Montenegro.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 05/27/2004 19:26 Comments || Top||

#10  There's Roman Catholics too. Mother Teresa was a Roman Catholic Albanian, IIRC.

Back to lurkdom.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 05/27/2004 19:38 Comments || Top||

#11  hmmmm - I can't see Mother Theresa selling girls into slavery, prostitution and forced marriage. Sounds more like....(wait for it).....Mooslims?
Posted by: Frank G || 05/27/2004 19:47 Comments || Top||

#12  Hey, Aris, how about those...

Never mind.
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 20:00 Comments || Top||

#13  There's Roman Catholics too. Mother Teresa was a Roman Catholic Albanian, IIRC.

Yes, she was. CIA factbook sez about 10% of the population (about 358,000)is Roman Catholic. Still, methinks "mommy dearest' isn't a raging Papist.
Posted by: Pappy || 05/27/2004 22:05 Comments || Top||


Gore Unhinged
Posted by: mercutio || 05/27/2004 12:27 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yoikes! Guess Al didn't get his dose of the black orchid potion that day.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/27/2004 13:34 Comments || Top||

#2  The strawberries, the strawberries. Who took the strawberries. Was is Dick? was it Condi? Was it Don? Yes yes the strawberries. . .
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 13:36 Comments || Top||


Spammers Face Jail Time Under New Md. Law
Gov. Bob Ehrlich signed a bill Wednesday that will give Maryland one of the strongest junk e-mail laws in the country, allowing prosecutors to put spammers in jail and seize the profits they earn through fraudulent e-mail schemes. The anti-spam bill sponsored by Delegate Neil Quinter, D-Howard, provides for jail terms up to five years and fines up to $25,000 for violating the law. The attorney general also could seek civil penalties of up to $25,000 per day, or between $2 and $8 for every spam message sent in violation of the law. "Spam is just flooding our e-mails," Quinter said.
I had 397 emails when I came in this morning, most of them in my Deleted bin. I had to look over about 80 messages that weren't caught by the filters. I've had two (that's numeral 2) legitimate messages today — I think. About 70 of the messages were trojans. The remainder offered me drugs, mainly Viagra and its clones (who told?), discount software, pleas from Nigerians, stock tips, real teen sluts performing acts I've never seen before, underground CDs, cable filterz, and mortgages.
Spam costs American businesses about $10 billion a year, he said.
I recently started the process of refinancing my house and it took me a week to get things set up so the loan officer's mail could get through. I also missed a job offer I would have jumped on.
America Online said in a statement that the new Maryland law is a "huge leap forward" in the national battle against spam. "This new state law ... will help us rein in the kingpin, outlaw spammers who continue to use tactics of fraud, deceit and evasion to avoid state and federal laws, as well as trick AOL's anti-spam filters," the statement said.
One of the reasons people quit using AO-Hell is the inadequacy of its spam filtering. I watched the movie "You've Got Mail", which isn't really that old, the other day. The premise would actually be unlikely today -- the potential sweeties wouldn't be able to carry on a conversation.
The company said Maryland "now becomes a model for other states to follow." The new law makes it a crime to:
  • hack into someone else's computer to send spam;
    Without a firewall, Rantburg wouldn't be up 24 hours.
  • knowingly mislead recipients or Internet service providers about the origin of a message;
    Virtually all spam headers are forged.
  • falsify information regarding the source and routing of e-mails;
    Among the emails I had to dump by hand were a number that had me as the return address. I regularly get trojans "from" Jen, Steve White, ptah, and a few others, basically everyone whose address actually appears on the internet or in the address book of somebody who's opened a trojan.
  • use a false identity to register for 15 or more e-mail addresses and send spam from those addresses.
    Needless to say, I'm hoping to see results from the legislation.
Posted by: Fred || 05/27/2004 12:40:46 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Will this law apply to trolls also?
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 05/27/2004 13:04 Comments || Top||

#2  it about goddam time!
Posted by: muck4doo || 05/27/2004 13:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Spammers make the impact of file sharing look like a prank. Spammers are blunting the edge of America's incredibly valuable Internet toolkit. Both spammers and virus disseminators need to face mandatory felony charges with hard time upon conviction. The collective damage done by these scumbags is astronomical. Sadly, our technologically illiterate politicians have little more than a subatomic clue as to these issues' importance.
Posted by: Zenster || 05/27/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||

#4  1) I would support immediate execution for e-mail spammers, no appeals, but the g#@-d@#^*& ACLU keeps getting in the way.

2) Back in the days when spam was a new phenomenon and you could actually complain to someone about it, I used to ask ISP providers to send spammers the secret code the cause them to be electrocuted when they touched their keyboards. Alas, it didn't work.

3) Filtering e-mail: Apple's Mail client works better than most in filtering spam without any work on your part. Of course, you have to use a Mac :-)
Posted by: Steve White || 05/27/2004 13:32 Comments || Top||

#5  I was so happy to get email from Mucky, but when I opened it I didn't really think he loved animals *that* way.
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/27/2004 14:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Of course, it's only a matter of time before you see something like this:

GREETINGS AND FELICITATIONS. I AM MRS. MARIAM ABACHA, THE WIDOW OF THE LATE COMPUTER MARKETING EXECUTIVE HAROLD Q. ABACHA, WHO WAS ARRESTED IN MARYLAND ON FALSE SPAM CHARGES AND DIED IN CUSTODY UNDER MYSTERIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES. BEFORE HIS DEATH HE DEPOSITED 18.5 MILLION OPT-IN E-MAIL ADDRESSES WITH A SECURITY COMPANY IN AMSTERDAM . . . .
Posted by: Mike || 05/27/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#7  'Buffalo Spammer' Sentenced to 3-1/2 to 7 Years
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A New York state man who sent out millions of "spam" e-mails was sentenced to 3-1/2 to seven years in prison, the state attorney general's office said on Thursday.

Howard Carmack, known as the "Buffalo Spammer," received the maximum sentence for 14 counts of identity theft and forgery, a spokesman for New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer said.

Carmack sent out 825 million bulk e-mail messages using stolen identities and forged addresses, the court found, and was the first defendant to face charges under the state's new identity-theft statute.

He was found guilty in April.

The forgery conviction fetched the longest sentence, while the other convictions drew shorter sentences of one year to four years. All will be served concurrently, Spitzer spokesman Brad Maione said.

Carmack could be out in 3-1/2 should he behave in prison, Maione said.

Internet provider EarthLink Inc. won a $16.5 million judgment against Carmack last year, and EarthLink officials testified in the criminal trial as well.
One down, thousands to go... Actually probably less than a hundred...
Posted by: Fred || 05/27/2004 14:22 Comments || Top||

#8  "Carmack could be out in 3-1/2 should he behave in prison..."

Heh heh heh. Sounds like an effective deterrent alright. But what about his ill-gotten gains? Has his soft top been auctioned? His bank accounts emptied? Hope so.

Of course, this'll only affect US spammers, right?
Posted by: Bulldog || 05/27/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||

#9  I keep waiting for a class action lawsuit for "meta carpel tunnel syndrome" victims who were forced to click the delete key 825 million times in the case of the Buffalo spammer. Forget time based sentencing- sit the bastard down at a keyboard and make him delete 825 million pop ups and emails, one at a time and he will be released when he is through.
Oh yeah,he should be made to wear women's underwear on his head, too... OK nevermind the last one.
Posted by: Capsu78 || 05/27/2004 15:14 Comments || Top||

#10  Capsu78-You might get someone in this country who enjoys women's underwear on the head. That isn't as effective as in Iraq.
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#11  To anyone with a Spam problem I suggest a e-mail prefilter program "PopFile". Its free, and uses an Adaptive learning technique that is very effective. It examines the headers and text and rates its 'spammyness' and marks the message so filters can distribute the message easily. If it gets it wrong, it changes its ratings so that messages like the new one are now 'spammy'.

I also get 300 emails a day of which over 97 percent are spam. Currently Popfile makes errors about once a week or so. Far more effective than the one I bought which like Fred's let about 10-15 percent through.

popfile.sourceforge.net
Posted by: Chris Smith || 05/27/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||

#12  Just checked my Yahoo account, the one I use at my frequently updated and widely read website. I don't do it frequently (yes, check mail and update, heh, last mail check was 4/15) and this prompted me to do so now. Out of 432 I got, only one was legitimate. The only other one I opened had a virus in it.

I wish on the Buffalo Spammer and endless loop of every football game played by the Buffalo Bills during their four years when they made it to the Super Bowl, with his eyes pried open like Alex in 'A Clockwork Orange'.
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 19:38 Comments || Top||


This is why we have weight and balance tables, people!
A cargo plane being unloaded at Los Angeles International Airport became unbalanced and tipped onto its rear wheels Thursday, stranding seven workers 40 feet above ground.
Oops!
The workers were rescued after about an hour by firefighters using a ladder truck, fire department spokesman Bob Collis said. None of the workers was hurt. Workers may need a crane to right the MD-11 plane, operated by World Airways, Collis said. The company, based in Peachtree City, Ga., did not immediately return a phone message.
Guess they're busy
The accident happened before dawn at the airport's cargo complex, away from regular airport traffic. "As soon as they took whatever it was out of the back of the plane, the weight shifted and the plane just went back on its tail," Collis said.
Nope, after they lifted a pallet out of the back of the plane, the crew started rolling the rest of the load to the rear cargo door. Didn't leave enough in the front to balance the load, once the majority of the weight passed the CG, over she went. Bet they were in a hurry.
Posted by: Steve || 05/27/2004 11:02:39 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought perhaps Michael Moore was aboard, using the rear rest-room like a commoner.
Posted by: Sgt.DT || 05/27/2004 11:58 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd laugh, but in my yut I forgot to lower the landing gear on a fifty foot trailer and dropped it on its nose.
Posted by: Shipman || 05/27/2004 12:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Sgt.DT. Nah... Michael Moore doesn't do such common things as pee or poop like us mere mortals.

How else to you explain his -er- size and the 'stuff' he produces?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/27/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Didn't this happen before with a Fed Ex plane somewhere else?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 05/27/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Here's a picture.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 05/27/2004 15:30 Comments || Top||

#6  After looking at the photo, one wonders:

How do you ever unload? Or, do you reach a point where the gradual unloading leaves a small enough amount that the tail will not tip?

You can pick up a ladder truck (fire engine type)by yourself if the ladder is extended far enough and lowered enough. The laws of physics will not be denied! [cackle]
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 05/27/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||


Al Reuters says lesbians 4 times more likely to have children than gay men.
edited to emphasize the money quote:
"I wouldn’t call it a baby boom exactly. It has been steadily growing all along," said Aimee Gelnaw, a lesbian mother of two and executive director of the coalition. Using artificial insemination to get pregnant, lesbians are four times more likely to have children than gay men. "Same-sex couples and single women are 40 percent of our business, and it is the fastest-growing segment," said Marla Eby, vice president of marketing at California Cryobank Inc., Los Angeles, which ships semen nationwide.
Biology isn’t my field, but being the father of three possibly entitles me to claim some sort of first hand knowledge. I would say that lesbians have an infinitely greater chance than any man, gay or otherwise, of having children. As for artificial insemination of gay men, as the quote seems to suggest, we might be better off not knowing.

A while back, we had a story about a leaked memo from Reuters management that expressed alarm over the high incidence of on-the-job drunkenness at the news agency. Is this another bit of evidence?
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 05/27/2004 1:16:48 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Taranto's pithy comment yesterday:
Meanwhile, Reuters reports: "Using artificial insemination to get pregnant, lesbians are four times more likely to have children than gay men." Four times? That actually sounds low to us.
Posted by: someone || 05/27/2004 1:51 Comments || Top||

#2  #2 I find women who muff dive on another woman a harmless thing. Women are ultra sexual. Man on man sex I find a vile, diseased thing.

But what I'm down on is how these people seem to think that children, caught up in their adultery, are unaffected. Children being exposed to same sex sexuality are being abused. And all so some adult can get their Ya Yas. And I'm going to be attacked as some caveman.

Fathers folks, who's the father? Not love, not lust, not a warm bed and a hot meal. It's who's your daddy. And does he give a flying fu#k.

Bastards, there is a reason civilization has made that term a negitive. But current popular culture seems to think that love, heart felt love, is what matters.

Love is fleeting. Respect is greater. A good man will respect the mother of his children. Respect in that he gives his womans children his name. He stays around to make sure they are nobodies fools. But watch, there will be those who will stand, rightously, about some freedom, whatever.
Posted by: Lucky || 05/27/2004 2:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Lesbians gross me out, so move over, Lucky!
In fact, both kinds of gays are pretty icky in the physical aspect of homosexuality.
I have friends who are "gay" and I'm tolerant but draw the line at the "marriage" deal and I think queens are fun as long as you don't have to think about what they do when they're alone.
As hairdressers, florists, organists and interior decorators, OK.
(And of course more "gay" women have babies--the men don't have a womb!)
Posted by: Jen || 05/27/2004 2:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Moved over Jen! Happy to share the bench with you. I've often thought about having a womb, NOT!
Posted by: Lucky || 05/27/2004 2:50 Comments || Top||

#5  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls TROLL || 05/27/2004 3:05 Comments || Top||

#6  I think kids do very well when raised by two monogamous heterosexuals who love each other, are caring individuals and are capable/committed to nurturing.

Income means a whole lot less than an absence of substance abuse, one or several broken relationships, a parent who is mentally ill in a destructive way or especially pedophilia.

If I died, I would rather have my children raised by loving and levelheaded homosexuals that have some values if no better choices were available.

I am quite conservative and plan to raise my children to be conservatives, but I would certainly choose to have them raised by a loving liberal over an alcoholic that I agreed with politically. People’s political views evolve with time and experience, by physical or psychological abuse are much harder to overcome and cannot be erased.
Posted by: Super Hose || 05/27/2004 3:10 Comments || Top||

#7  Its simple! Lesbians hate men. Gays hate responsibility.
Posted by: Phil B || 05/27/2004 3:44 Comments || Top||

#8  Phil,
Respectfully, I disagree with you. I have yet to meet a lesbian who hates men. Sadly, I have met a few who - through bitter personal experience - are terrified of men, but otherwise, without exception, it was a matter of preference instead of hatred.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 05/27/2004 9:22 Comments || Top||

#9  I was using the term 'hate' somewhat ironically, although the media often uses 'hate' to mean dislike. You can replace 'hate' with 'have a strong aversion to'.

regards
Posted by: Phil B || 05/27/2004 9:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Bloody un-natural. Next we'll see weddings to animals (man to goat, woman to horse). The procreation takes place due to union of males and females of same species and there is no other combo allowed by nature sans aritificial help. The same sex marriage is a farce. AIDS was one way by nature of controlling it a bit. These ppl shud not be allowed to have children,lest they create more of them. I do agree that watching two (human)females make out is quite enticing but thats about it.
Posted by: sakattack || 05/27/2004 9:45 Comments || Top||

#11  Ironic that this should be posted today (what happened earlier, by the way? I kept getting "Internal Server Errors" when I tried to load the site.); I was just thinking about this very thing earlier. I've got sort of a divided mind on the issue. I don't think it's any business of mine what people do in their spare time, as long as they don't hurt, or infringe upon the rights of, anyone else, but at the same time I don't approve of homosexuality, I don't think it's normal, and I would rather not see it accepted as mainstream. So I'm in something of a quandry. As far as this particular issue goes, however, I am disappointed to know that these kids will grow up without a male father-figure. Say what you will about the equality of the sexes, but neither gender can teach it all, and there are some things that a boy or girl can only learn from their father.
Posted by: The Doctor || 05/27/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#12  Jesus, Rantburgers, don't be so narrow-minded.

Doc: Some of these kids might very well have a father figure. Just because they're a lesbian couple doesn't necessarily mean they cut all men out of their lives. Anyways, think of the huge number of blacks who've grown up only with a mother because daddy ran off, yet they managed to make their lives successful.

Jen: Tired old stereotypes. Plus, you're close to being guilty of the old "Bigoted? Some of my best friends are negros" defense.

What if in a family of three kids, two older girls and a boy, the parents die young yet the girls are old enough that legally they can raise the kid. They're the same sex. Would it matter if they're gay or not?

I really don't want to start a whole big argument here, though. Yes, many gay couples aren't suited to have kids. But so are many straight couple. The issue should be how good the couple is at parenting, not what the couple does in the bedroom.
Posted by: growler || 05/27/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#13  growler, would it matter if they were gay or not? Definitely.
I don't really think there's anything "right" about homosexuals.
Call me a bigot if you have to.
They say they're "born that way," but almost all of them I've met and talked to are the victims of sexual abuse as small children.
Maybe they can't change and "help" the way they are, but one of the things that's come out of this has been AIDS and I don't have to tell you about that.
The human body just wasn't made for what homosexuals want to do with it.
We try to teach abstinence to our children who threaten to be sexually active.
Why can't adults do it as well if "normal sex" isn't for them?
Posted by: Jen || 05/27/2004 11:27 Comments || Top||

#14  My wife died 8 years ago and I had to raise our daughter. She was 12 at the time of her mother's death. I don't care what is seen on TV about men raising daughters or women raising sons, It's damned hard to do. Daughters need a mother figure and sons need a father figure. The desire to want children is understandable but I can't believe the raising of children in homosexual households is entirely healthy for the children.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 05/27/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#15  Deacon, bless your heart!
(My dad died when I was 10 and my mother tried to be both parents, but it wasn't possible. And my brother ended up having a very bad life in large part because he was 7 when we lost Dad and he really needed a father.)
You're right--To raise a child, you need a mother and a father.
Posted by: Jen || 05/27/2004 11:33 Comments || Top||

#16  Amen DEACON! I wouldn't know where to begin on talking about women stuff with my daughters. Not just the physical stuff, the emotional stuff too. I can and do relate with my boys a lot easier than with the girls. Girls are icky! Thats what I told my son.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 05/27/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#17  Organists? To which 'organ' are you referring to, Jen? :-)
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#18  Deacon,

You're correct that daughters need a mother figure to learn from but they also need a father figure to learn what to expect and both to learn how to live together effectively. That's something homosexual couples cannot give to children.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 05/27/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#19  Deacon, my condolences. It's a damned difficult thing to lose a wife. We were faced with a similar situation 7 years ago -- the mass in my wife's brain turned out to be a blood clot and not a metastatic cancer (first time in my life I was happy to see a blood clot in the brain!). She recovered completely with surgery, but in that short time I had to consider how I might raise our daughter by myself, and it scared the s--- out of me.

To all: I really don't care if two gays get married. Sure, fine, whatever, just don't bring up the details, 'cause I really don't want to know. But if two gays want to make a lifelong commitment to each other, great, it beats the bath house scene. And given Britney Spear's recent "marriage", I can't say that heterosexuals have been so good at this.

Gays with children -- okay, fine, but I'm real concerned about the lack of the proper gender parent figure for the kid. Boys need a man to look up to, and girls need a woman. My hat's off to the single parents who pull this off, but it's damned hard, and too many are unsuccessful. I would hope that gay couples would understand this up front, but I think most are no better than the usual young-and-in-love heterosexual couples in thinking about the future.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/27/2004 13:43 Comments || Top||

#20  This site and this site are hosted by homosexuals leaving (or trying to leave) the homosexual lifestyle, and address the issue of homosexual orientation and/or homosexuals raising kids. If these people (who have first-hand experience with the homosexual lifestyle) see problems with the lifestyle, maybe we should too. I don’t think childhood, or the military, should be used for social experiments. I also have serious political concerns, as I noted yesterday:
This whole subject is really about the deconstruction of socio-emotional cognitive concepts and schemas, and the traditions and mores honored worldwide and cross-culturally over millennia. My biggest beef with the current “homosexual” nature-versus-nurture dialogue is that it represents an attempt by the intellectually elite (and the intellectually dishonest) to redefine society and government in terms of their choosing -- and which happens to be pretty damn liberal. Most cultures, and most people, realize that the human sexual response is fairly plastic (I mean look how it can be molded into fetishes), but that doesn’t mean that atypical sexual response patterns are something any society should condone (toleration is a different matter). As I read Blackstone, to the extent the behavior is purely private, it remains a matter between the person and the Creator. To the extent it becomes public, the behavior is subject to the Rule of Law, and the traditions and mores of society.
Posted by: cingold || 05/27/2004 14:57 Comments || Top||

#21  Kids of both sexes need both parents influence. Fathers handle situations differently than mothers do (they'll push more and minimize the impact of obstacles). Mothers emphasize different things than fathers do (they'll demonstrate compassion more readily). The differences in the father and the mother give the child a complete (as possible) set of life instructions. This is just not possible with single parent or same sex parent households.

Deacon, you have my condolences. My brother died 2 years ago and my stepsister died 3 years ago. Both left small children. Fortunately, my sis's husband remarried to a divorced woman with kids and they have a great family. My bro's widow has not been so lucky as of yet. I worry about her kids and do what I can to help. She'll find someone though. She is a wonderful woman, great looking and a ton of fun.
Posted by: remote man || 05/27/2004 16:50 Comments || Top||

#22  Thanks to everyone for the support. I'm not totally against homosexual unions. People need to have someone but when that need spills over into inocents (children) I think a lot of people don't really think through how their actions affect other people, especially children. Children are not little adults. They are not like pets that we can take care of and love without having to be responsable for what we inadvertantly teach them. They learn certain behaviors and mores from adults. I guess I just find it hard to believe homosexuals can impart a healthy sexual view of the world without ge3tting these children very confused about themselves.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 05/27/2004 22:52 Comments || Top||

#23  Hey, no sex here.
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls || 05/27/2004 3:05 Comments || Top||


Europe
Call for EU-wide junk food ban

Thursday May 27, 2004

David Batty and agencies

European legislation would be needed to impose an effective ban on junk food advertising, according to a public health specialist. Dr Geof Rayner, the former chairman of the UK Public Health Association (UKPHA), said that a national ban on television commercials that promote junk food, such as burgers and fizzy drinks, would be ineffective because of widespread and growing access to satellite TV. His comments came after the Commons health select committee today recommended a voluntary ban on TV commercials promoting unhealthy food in a damning report on Britain’s obesity epidemic.
Of course, this will not stop the EU pols from running up tremendous expense accounts debating something so patently ridiculous. Protesters will waddle over these politicians’ broken and bleeding bodies to get to a properly made American hamburger.
He said: "In order to impose any limit on the amount of junk food advertisements for children we must tackle it at the European level. In Sweden they have a ban on marketing to children but a lot comes in through satellite TV, so the food industry can usurp the national ban." Dr Rayner, who sits on the UKPHA council, also called on the government to address European Union (EU) subsidies for unhealthy foods. He said that 48% of the European commission’s budget went on subsidies to the food industry, but this funding took no account of how healthy the food produced was.
"[T]ackle it at an European level ..." What, like Spain did with the war on terror? Bwahahahaha!!!
"The EU shouldn’t be subsidising fats and sugars. Subsidies need to go towards those parts of the industry which are producing healthy foods. The UK government could take the lead there and conduct a health impact assessment on the European common agricultural policy." Although Dr Rayner said that only a global obesity strategy would be able to counterbalance the efforts of multinational food companies, he did recommend that local authorities draw up strategies to address the health inequalities that often lay behind high rates of obesity.
Maybe if they stopped subsidizing every last corner tobacconist and mom-and-pop shop, but I digress.
"We know that people living in more deprived areas can obtain a wide range of cheap ’energy dense’ options such as crisps and chocolates, and have less access to healthier foods", he said. "Primary care trusts and local authorities need to develop their own food and health strategy which looks at what local people are eating; access to healthy food; the pricing of food; school nutrition; and obesogenic influences, such as sedentary lifestyles."
How about letting Darwin set the rules? It’s worked rather well for millions of years.
Paul Streets, chief executive of the Health Development Agency, said that tackling health inequalities was central to reducing spiralling rates of obesity. He said: "Levels of obesity are up to twice as high among women in disadvantaged groups, children from poorer backgrounds are more likely to suffer weight problems and there is a higher prevalence in some ethnic groups and in different regions across the country.

"Individual choice is often blamed as the cause of obesity. However, it’s vital to remember disadvantaged people may not have a choice - whether it be the cost of eating healthily, having transport to reach shops selling fresh fruit and veg or having access to safe places to be physically active." The health select committee’s report criticised the NHS for not making the treatment and prevention of obesity a top priority. It highlighted examples of GPs being told to cut down on prescriptions for obesity drugs and patients having difficulties accessing services.
Slap a legislative BandAid on a sucking chest wound. Way to go, Europe!
Posted by: Zenster || 05/27/2004 1:38:58 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Dr Geof Rayner ... said that a national ban on television commercials that promote junk food, such as burgers and fizzy drinks, would be ineffective because of widespread and growing access to satellite TV."

Yeah yeah, and the evil internetweb has caused paedophilia, juvenile delinquency and town-centre violence on Saturday nights...

Some people just don't get it! If people want to eat crap, and get fat, let them! Nanny folk and you diminish their ability to look after themselves responsibly in every other way.

How about letting Darwin set the rules?

Natural selection's not just about survival of the fittest - it's primarily about survival of the fit. In every animal population there are many individuals which, for one reason or another, just fail to meet the basic requirements that should be met in order to pass their characteristics on to the next generation. There are far, far, far more of these than there are those super-fit freaks carrying new beneficial mutations. The human species is no exception to the rule.
Posted by: Bulldog || 05/27/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#2  But I thought it was only evil Americans who were fat, lazy, stupid, etc.
Posted by: dreadnought || 05/27/2004 14:33 Comments || Top||

#3  The EU should change its name to "Scrappleface."
Posted by: Infidel Bob || 05/27/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Naturally, no scolding nannygram would be complete without three obligatory references to The ChildrenTM.
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 15:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Dr Geof Rayner, the former chairman of the UK Public Health Association (UKPHA), said that a national ban on television commercials that promote junk food, such as burgers and fizzy drinks, would be ineffective because of widespread and growing access to satellite TV.

The appearance of a heavy breathing bureaucrat on TV alarmed people, because it had interuppted the reshowing of the final episode of "Friends".

A short bespectacled man speaks in English with a Swedish accent :

There are no WMDs in Ir....Sorry, wrong topic. . .

Yes, yes, since our ban on junk food advertising has been thwarted by satellite TV, we are instituting a ban on satellite dishes, yes! yes!

Anyone now caught with a dish will have their eyes put out out with red hot pokers, oh, wonderful! yes, and those caught viewing said commercial will be executed on the spot. Wonderful. Amnesty International has let us have this one instance of the death penalty. Wonderful. Yes. Yes! YES!!!

(at this point the camera turns to a window. Two trees are seen at a distance.)

The bureaucrat can still be heard screaming. . .
Bring that back, bring it back. . .

Someone is heard falling to the ground, the heavy breathing continues. Then silence.

On the screen "Please Stand By" appears in 12 languages. . . .
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#6  And with all the problems facing them today: terrorism, their economies, anti-Semitism, Iraq, some of the consequences of socialsm . . . they choose to complain about Oreo commercials. I'm not sure whether to give up on them or fall on the floor laughing.

Although BigEd's last remark had me doing just that . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 05/27/2004 15:55 Comments || Top||

#7  I will kiss Chirac butt at High noon on the Eifel tower if the start banning McDonalds, BK, KFC, etc from Europe. This is a lot of hot air. The Euros like love AMERICAN fast food and they aint giving it up. Maybe the french can start a fast food chain of frech food: 'Le Snail' oh that wouldn't be fast would it?
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 05/27/2004 17:08 Comments || Top||

#8  Sarge - L'Escargot
"Doesn't taste like chicken. Tastes like roast beef!"
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 17:15 Comments || Top||

#9  "You can have my Buffalo Wings and blue cheese dressing when you pry them from my cold, dead hands (drenched in Frank's Red Hot Sauce)!"
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 17:21 Comments || Top||

#10  As silly as it might be for someone to complain low-income people are getting fat from watching fairly expensive satellite TV,the last laugh may be on US.At least in Europe they don't have lawyers trying to start a class-action lawsuit against McDonalds for making people fat.

My favorite solution to end the growth in class-action lawsuits:Law firm cannot collect fees in excess of what a "victim" receives as compensation.
Posted by: Stephen || 05/27/2004 17:31 Comments || Top||

#11  #9/Raj - And an Arby's Big Montana from mine!
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 18:22 Comments || Top||

#12  When I joined the Air Force in 1965, a person 5'10" tall had a maximum allowable weight of 225 pounds. When I re-enlisted for the third time in 1973, the maximum allowable weight was down to 210 pounds. When I re-enlisted in 1984, the maximum allowable weight was 187 pounds, and now they tell me I shouldn't weigh more than 179 pounds. The only thing that changed was a group of "health scientists" deciding that "lean" was better than "chunky", and we should all be "lean". The last time I weighed 179 pounds was in 1968, after a bout with malaria that almost killed me. We are NOT all string-bean thin. People differ in bone density, bulk, mass (mine is consistently between 1.03 and 1.07 - can't float for sh$$), and muscle tone, and a dozen other factors. The life insurance companies can make a bundle if they can keep all of us living ten years longer than the actuarial tables indicate, and "being thin" was thought to be one way to do that. It blew up in their faces, deaths actually ROSE, and they're now re-thinking, trying to find out what went wrong. In the meantime, we're still fighting a manufactured "obesity" epidemic (government got involved, God help us all!), and trying to stay partially sane. I'm ready to give up sanity, become selectively insane, and start shooting lawyers.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 05/27/2004 22:45 Comments || Top||

#13  In the early 70's my had under him an Airman who was a PJ in Vietnam (jumped into the jungle behind enemy lines to rescue pilots, probably the most dangerous of all specialties). The guy was built like a WWF wrestler, smart, and highly motivated. Just the guy you want in the military. But he was way over the new weight guidelines and the only way to meet it would have been to amputate a leg at the hip So he was drummed out. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Posted by: ed || 05/27/2004 23:02 Comments || Top||

#14  Thats: In the early 70's my dad had
Posted by: ed || 05/27/2004 23:03 Comments || Top||


D-Day graves ready for ceremony
EFL, but recommend reading the whole article. Sleep well, servicemen and women. We honor your sacrifice.
In its magnificent setting on a bluff overlooking Omaha Beach and the Channel beyond, fevered preparations are under way at the American cemetery and memorial in Colleville-sur-Mer for the 60th anniversary commemorations of D-Day. One of the high points of June 6 - and the moment to be most closely monitored for its diplomatic significance - will be the encounter between presidents Jacques Chirac and George W Bush at the joint Franco-American ceremony before the gravestones of some 9,400 fallen US troops. Today contractors are installing metal viewing-stands, rows of folding seats and towers for the television cameras, while gardeners bring the already immaculate acres of greensward and woodland into an even higher state of perfection. Vast tents have been installed out of view for accommodating the 1,700 American soldiers who will provide both the ceremonial guard and an extra tier of security. Terrorism is a real concern, and the whole 80-kilometre (50-mile) stretch of the Normandy coast is already patrolled by French paramilitary gendarmes.
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/27/2004 1:37:47 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My wife and I took a bicycle trip to Holland in 1976. We met up with some young Dutch guys who had been cycle touring in the UK and were heading home, Weirsolo(?)

They were great guys and invited us to cycle with them to their home. Thought it was SoCal, with the pool and all. Anyway, The mom of the group took me aside before we left and thanked me for the sacrifice Americans took in the liberation of Holland. Me, being the son of a WW2 vet, and also one that grew up playing army was humbled. That I, a son, would be thanked for the price paid by those so much more...more! Truely a hilite in my life.
Posted by: Lucky || 05/27/2004 2:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Sorry to ruin the mood, but saw this on the IWM site:

Personal story
The pigeon
Gustav, a ‘grizzle cock’ pigeon, was awarded the Dickin Medal for gallantry on D-Day. He was one of six carrier pigeons issued by the RAF to Montague Taylor, a Reuters war correspondent. Gustav delivered the first report of the
landings from a ship off the Normandy beachhead. His epic flight back to his loft at Thorney Island in Portsmouth took 5 hours and 16 minutes and covered some 150 miles. RAF Sergeant Harry Halsey, who trained Gustav, was mentioned in despatches for his part in his feat. Gustav met an unfortunate end after the war when his breeder accidentally stepped on him while cleaning his loft. The Dickin Medal, instituted by Mrs Maria Dickin, founder of the People’s Dispensary for Sick Animals in England, is popularly referred to as the animals’ VC. It is awarded to any animal displaying conspicuous gallantry and devotion to duty associated with, or under the control of, any branch of the Armed Forces or Civil Defence units during the Second World War and its aftermath. To date the Dickin Medal has been awarded to 55 animals, of
which 32 are pigeons.

One for Mucky me old China!
http://www.iwm.org.uk/

Again the guns disturbed the hour,
Roaring their readiness to avenge,
As far inland as Stourton Tower,
And Camelot, and starlit Stonehenge.

Posted by: Howard UK || 05/27/2004 6:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Just a few months ago, Chirac stated that war is never justified. With that quote, he invalidates the war to rid Europe of a mass-murdering, psychopathic regime and spits on the graves of all the people who lost their lives saving that excuse for a country, France. Does France imagine that we will not see them for what they are-the kings of ingratitude?
Posted by: jules 187 || 05/27/2004 10:21 Comments || Top||

#4  My dad came ashore on D-Day (albeit in the later waves) but had a hard time ever talking about it. When he went back to Normandy before he died, the French people were very gracious but then they are Normans and not Parisians. Chirac is a Parisian to the core and a sanctimoneous puff-bag that will try his damnest to make GW look small and insignificant. But I bet GW will make Chirac look like the marginal figure in the world politic he and Schroder really are these days.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 05/27/2004 12:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Jack

That was then. Today the parisians have taken control of the regional press and have started brainwashing the rest of French.

Last polls show that the gap in anti-americanism betweeen Paris and rest of France has significantly narrowed.

And I don't see how it could get better. The other day I went to collect my daughter at her school and I found one of the caretakers was singing to the child: "An american Boeing who scares everyone". My daughter is three years old.
Posted by: JFM || 05/27/2004 12:49 Comments || Top||

#6  With that quote, he invalidates the war to rid Europe of a mass-murdering, psychopathic regime and spits on the graves of all the people who lost their lives saving that excuse for a country, France.

I will repeat my suggestion again: Bring home all of our soldiers that didn't return from Europe with the end of WW2, namely, those who remain on French soil. Better to do it now, instead of later on, when the task would be much more difficult.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 05/27/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#7  JFM - WTF?! - that sounds like a scene from some 50s B movie! Is that a popular song in France right now?

Things will get better in France, eventually, I'm sure. Just a matter of when. One year? Five years? Two decades?! Anti-Americanism is, basically, built on lies. Rank hypocrisy, by another name. As such, it cannot exist forever. The false morality of those fixed on hatred of America will be exposed one day.

You get enough of it here in the UK, too. I'm sure it's not nearly as bad as France, but... I'm feeling your pain, JFM!
Posted by: Bulldog || 05/27/2004 14:34 Comments || Top||

#8  Taken from a 2003 Time Magazine article:

In 1966, after Charles de Gaulle instructed President Lyndon Johnson that he wanted American troops withdrawn from his country, Johnson ordered Secretary of State Dean Rusk to fly back to Paris with a follow-up question: “Does your order include the bodies of American soldiers in France's cemeteries?”
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 05/27/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||

#9  No, it isn't a popular song. The caretaker had invented it all alone. BTW, she was doing her propaganda while paid with MY taxes.

Completely unrelated. Tonight we have "Saving private Ryan" in the TV. Perhaps the D-DAy ceermonies will generate some sympathy towards America however the French educational system has provided about it: according to it America went to war only fopr her own interests so she doesn't deserve thanks.

No mention is done about the Americans, those who died at Omaha Beach or Bastogne and didn't do it for selfish, sordid schemes of politicians
Posted by: JFM || 05/27/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||

#10  ...according to it America went to war only fopr her own interests so she doesn't deserve thanks.

The same educational system that teaches that everyone's ancestor alive during WWII was a member of the Resistance? ; )
Posted by: Pappy || 05/27/2004 22:30 Comments || Top||

#11  Charlles de Gaulle was quoted as saying, just before D-Day, "Why should one drop of French blood be shed to liberate our country? The Americans and the British will do it for us."
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 05/27/2004 22:35 Comments || Top||

#12  Pappy

No it isn't the same. That was the gaullist educational system. Today it is a leftist system who says _nobody_ was member of the resistance.


Deacon Blues

Your quoter was a liar. De Gaulle had may defects but his obsession was that the French take a part as big as possible in the fightings and shed their blood for victory. From June 18, 1940 he was saying that if France didn't take part in her liberation she would be relegated to secondary status after the war.
secondary status after the war.
Posted by: JFM || 05/28/2004 1:19 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Lefty Radio Jerk Webb Urges Death Penalty for Bush
The comments made by a liberal radio talk show host allegedly calling for the death of President George W. Bush and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld for "war crimes" have been confirmed by an audiotape of the original broadcast. As Talon News first reported last Thursday, a listener to The Mike Webb Show, which airs from 10:00 p.m.-1:00 a.m. on 710 AM KIRO in Seattle, Washington, said that Webb had "called for the death of President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld for ’war crimes.’" Despite maintaining his innocence by claiming he never called for the death of the president or anyone because he is opposed to the death penalty, the audio copy of Webb’s show proves otherwise.
Oops. First rule of radio hosting: never try to lie about what you said on the air.
During the 10:00 p.m. hour last Tuesday night, Webb was speaking in an angry tone regarding the Iraqi prison abuse story when he began his death penalty remarks against Bush. "[The prison abuse in Iraq] is a war crime, committed by the president of the United States," Webb declared on his show. "And do you know what the punishment for that is? Death!" After declaring Bush being guilty of committing a "war crime," Webb compared the president with death row convicts in Texas. "So, I say if this man has committed a war crime, and they can prove it, let’s let George Bush get the final justice that he has meted out as Governor of Texas, laughing at people who have been sent to the death chamber, let him face the death penalty for the war crime he has committed," Webb contended. Declaring that administering the death penalty to the president "is constitutional," Webb included other Bush administration leaders in the list of those who "should get the death penalty," including Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney, because they are all "war criminals."

Webb went further with his comments by pointing to the Geneva Convention and affirming his belief that Bush should be put to death. "If this is proven to be true, that he knew what was going on, it’s a violation of the Geneva Convention," Webb stated. "When you commit a war crime, which is punishable by death." Webb then asks his listeners a question and quickly answers it for himself. "[S]hould George Bush get the death penalty? I say yes," Webb exclaimed.

Continuing his vilification of Talon News on his show’s weblog, Webb personally attacks a Talon News reporter by labeling him "America’s #2 Neo-Con-News-Hound." Webb describes the Talon News reporter as a "GOP Buddy" with "little go-arounds with the Dems." Webb then concocts a story that the reporter grew up with liberal movie producer Michael Moore in Michigan. Despite Webb’s attempt to take the attention off of his apparent death threats against Bush, the outrage towards him and his statements continues to spread across the country. As previously reported by Talon News, people who are concerned with Webb’s comments should contact Entercom Communications Seattle Market Manager Kevin McCarthy at 206-726-7000 or KIRO General Manager Dave Pridemore. Also, since many listeners to Webb’s show have inquired about how to report comments made by Webb to the appropriate federal authorities, the Secret Service may be contacted by calling 202-406-5708 and the Federal Communications Commission can be reached at 888-835-5322.
I don’t know. A while back on my own radio show, I suggested that various fifth columnists should be tried by a Nurmeberg-style tribunal then publicly hanged; with the option of crucifixion for the most egregious offenders. I also suggested that we could defray war costs by charging admission and selling the TV rights. The local lefties howled to the rafters. My defense was that this called for due process and was not therefore an illegal or terroristic threat.
A copy of the full audio broadcast of the May 18 edition of The Mike Webb Show may be obtained for one more week through Tempo IV, Inc. by calling 425-825-5544.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 05/27/2004 2:21:11 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm in awe of guys like Mike Webb, who put their life on the line, what with body shredders and all, to say outrages things, Knowing all along that their pussy asses are going to be in luxury come quitten time. What a punk. And BTW I've heard this prick, who's dick has been in the mouth of many a male, and he is just a PC slut.
Posted by: Lucky || 05/27/2004 2:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Gee, Lucky, don't hold back--tell us what you really think.
Posted by: Mike || 05/27/2004 6:08 Comments || Top||

#3  I can't imagine what he wanted done with Janet Reno after Waco.....
Posted by: Anonymous5019 || 05/27/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Ya know? I had never heard of him. If not for this story posted here, I never would have heard of him. And tomorrow, I'll forget all about him. Just like what's-her-name from the rubber check network who said something or other about taking Bush out back and shooting him.

What are his Arbitron ratings like out in Seattle?
Posted by: eLarson || 05/27/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Secret Service may be contacted by calling 202-406-5708

This can't be emphasized enough!
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 11:31 Comments || Top||

#6  He's a fill-in host mostly. A very proud butt pirate. He wouldn't last long as a dailey host.
Posted by: Lucky || 05/27/2004 11:59 Comments || Top||

#7  He made a death threat against the President. It's a federal crime.

Why is this schmuck remaining out of jail?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 05/27/2004 17:41 Comments || Top||

#8  Mark E: I refer you to my #5

Secret Service may be contacted by calling 202-406-5708

Hello? Is anybody there?
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 19:11 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Kerry Leans To Talk Through His Ass
The national security speech we’ve all been waiting for!
’Patriotism doesn’t belong to any one party or president’
But it sure seems absent in one party.

Thursday, May 27, 2004 Posted: 11:15 AM EDT (1515 GMT)

John Kerry speaks with supporters Wednesday in Seattle.

SEATTLE, Washington (AP) -- Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry says the United States must be "strong without being stubborn" to defeat the terrorist threat.
Enforcing 17 UN reolutions with military force without French approval is Kerry’s notion of being ’stubborn’.
And he charges that President Bush has undermined American leadership by turning to force before he exhausted diplomacy in Iraq.
12 years wasn’t long enough?
"At stake is a vision of an America truly stronger and truly respected in the world," Kerry said in remarks prepared for delivery Thursday, launching an 11-day focus on national security.
"’Tis better to be feared than to be loved, if one cannot be both". Does Kerry remember that or is the only thing he reads is communist poets?
"This is not a partisan cause. Patriotism doesn’t belong to any one party or president."
Noted above.
National security was Bush’s strength early in the presidential race, but violence in Iraq has increased skepticism about Bush’s handling of the war.

Kerry hopes to convince Americans that he would be a stronger world leader. (Kerry faults Bush on homeland security)
Hope springs eternal.
Kerry said that if he is elected, his top security goal will be to prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons of mass destruction.
Um, isn’t that one reason we’re in Iraq?
And he said the United States needs help from other countries since terrorists are working across the globe. (FBI urges vigilance)
He implies that we’re not doing this, which, coming out of his mouth, natch, is complete horsepuckey. And to the extent other countries wish to recognize terrorism as a problem, yes. See Spain, Zapatero.
"No force on earth is more able than the United States and its allies," Kerry said.
"Can I get an AMEN, BROTHER!!! from the audience?"
"We must build that force -- and we can. We can be strong without being stubborn. Indeed, that is ultimately the only way we can succeed."
Is that why you voted against every major weapons platform whilst you were in the Senate, that is, whenever you bothered to vote?
He laid out four principles that would guide his national security policy:

New alliances with foreign countries;
Like Poland, Ukraine, Mongolia (!) and other countries in ’New Europe’, as we’re already doing?
An updated military to meet terrorist threats;
Our military isn’t updated? That’s in part because of your votes against those efforts, Senator.
The use of diplomacy, intelligence, economic power and "the appeal of our values and ideas" to keep the country safe;
Apparent reference to "I’ll kiss Chirac’s ass as soon as he dropps trou".
Freedom from dependence on oil from the Middle East.
Like drilling in ANWR, which you never supported?
"These four imperatives are a response to an inescapable reality: War has changed; the enemy is different -- and we must think and act anew," Kerry said.
More emphasis on ’act’, Senator Serotta.
National security tour

Kerry’s national security tour extends through Memorial Day and will end on the 60th anniversary of D-Day on June 6.
Good timing; maybe he’s not completely deaf, politically speaking
He will make two more major speeches in West Palm Beach, Florida, on Tuesday, and Independence, Missouri, on June 3, but also take his case to the battleground states of Wisconsin, Minnesota and Ohio.
West Palm Beach = big $$$ / target rich environment. He’ll need it.
Echoing his theme from months on the campaign trail, Kerry’s speech Thursday included accusations that the Bush administration rushed to war and damaged relationships with other nations along the way.

"They looked to force before exhausting diplomacy," Kerry said in the speech text. "They bullied when they should have persuaded. They have gone it alone when they should have assembled a team. They have hoped for the best when they should have prepared for the worst. In short, they have undermined the legacy of generations of American leadership. And that is what we must restore."
I submit that 12 years was well past exhausted diplomacy, Senator; harsh language isn’t as effective as Billy Jack kicking you upside the head.
Bush laid out his plan for Iraq during a prime-time speech Monday night. Kerry will continue to encourage the president to seek more help from allies and change course in Iraq.
He’s been doing that; another fact conveniently ignored by Kerry.
"If President Bush doesn’t change course and doesn’t secure new support from our allies, we will, once again feel the consequences of a foreign policy that has divided the world instead of uniting it," Kerry said. "Our troops will be in greater peril, the mission in Iraq will be harder to accomplish and our country will be less secure."

Separately, Kerry said Wednesday he will accept the presidential nomination at the Democratic National Convention in late July.
"I turned down the nomination before I accepted it!" Is there any issue he hasn’t been on both sides of?
Some Kerry advisers had wanted him to wait until Bush accepts the Republican nod in early September because each candidate gets $75 million in public funding for his campaign when he is officially nominated. With his decision, Kerry will have to stretch his money out five weeks longer than Bush.

"I know it puts us at a disadvantage financially," Kerry told the crowd, making an appeal for greater donations. "And so I’m relying on those of you who helped bring us to this point."
Grab Lovey’s chequebook, then. Oh, who’s paying for that brand new plane, by the way?
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 2:16:05 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  hehe... sometimes I have to 'lean' to 'talk' through my ass. But of course nobody does it like Kerry.....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/27/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Kausfiles notes that every time Kerry opens his mouth he goes down in the polls. Here's hoping ...
Posted by: Steve White || 05/27/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#3  I thought that part of the political spectrum was concerned about global warming.
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Strong and stubborn is all right with me.
Posted by: Grunter || 05/27/2004 15:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Sheesh, back in the day, asses could talk for themselves, Balam's ass being a fine example indeed. These days, we have the "presumed" democratic presidential candidate, some castrated dude named Kerry-Heinz ketchup bizznitch or somesuch, having to fake it.

Compared to this metrosexual wussie-ism, gimme that old time religion!

I'll take the cow-boy bay-bee, riding out 16 miles on the range, busting his ass (well face and hands) and blaming nobody but himself and getting back up and finishing that last mile.

ketchup boy, take you metro and shove it up your sexual.
Posted by: Atropanthe || 05/27/2004 16:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Love the Billy Jack reference. Can we have some ice cream. PLEASE.
Posted by: remote man || 05/27/2004 16:53 Comments || Top||

#7  Kerry Leans To Talk Through His Ass

Who says Kerry needs to lean?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 05/27/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#8  Bomb-a-rama, 'twas a typo, not a Freudian slip (right!).
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 17:10 Comments || Top||

#9  What Kerry views as "stubborn" most folks would consider "principled and resolute." It will be good for the country when the glut of babyboom vietnam war protestors works it way out of the power structure of the Democratic party. These pathetic losers seemed fixated on the 70's when they were young and thought they made a difference. Now they're just old and boring.
Posted by: RWV || 05/27/2004 17:23 Comments || Top||

#10  "the appeal of our values and ideals" is exactly what the Islamo-facsists hate,and why they are at war w/us.

Clueless doesn't even begin to describe Kerry.His 4 "imperatives" doesn't include military action,so he will do nothing.
Posted by: Stephen || 05/27/2004 17:40 Comments || Top||

#11  But we need the French with us or our cause is meaningless!
Posted by: Al Gore || 05/27/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#12  He laid out four principles that would guide his national security policy:

He didn't mention the Democrat pet project: massive domestic spending in the name of "national security". Admittedly, there are many areas that need it, like ports. It's just that a cynical little part of me thinks that had it happened, it would've been TSA redux and redux and redux...

Posted by: Pappy || 05/27/2004 21:49 Comments || Top||


Al Gore


Beard Trim at Supercuts, $5.00


Movie Tickets for 2, $19.00


Luncheon at moveon.org, $250.00


Padded quiet room, Priceless

Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 10:59:16 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For all the medication you can buy, there's Mastercard.
Posted by: Anonymous4021 || 05/27/2004 11:01 Comments || Top||

#2  I knew he was nutz when he refused to concede the election to Bush in 2000.
Hope everyone who voted for him and was so patient for him to recount 3 Florida counties for 35 days while he held the nation (and the world) hostage is happy.
And as Podhoretz said in his column today, yesterday put the lie to those who said, "Oh, Gore would have done the same as Bush if he were president after 9/11."
For my own part, I'm still thanking God that Gore was never our Commander-in-Chief and that GWB is!
Posted by: Jen || 05/27/2004 11:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Can you believe that this idiot came within a whisker of being President of the U.S.?
Posted by: Infidel Bob || 05/27/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#4  he's a certifiable lunatic...Gaawwwdddd I hope he speaks at their convention! Between Gore one night, Howard (Yeeaaagghhh) Dean another night, and Al Sharpton another night, the entertainment and ridicule possibilities are endless. I'm proposing a drinking game for Gore's night: every time a vein throbs on his forehead, you've gotta take a shot....
Posted by: Frank G || 05/27/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Frank G - There's alcohol poisoning to had in them thar Democrat Drinking games...
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 05/27/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#6  I can't believe Al "Al" Gore is playing on our fears like this.
Posted by: eLarson || 05/27/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||

#7  I concur with Podhoretz: Al Gore is insane. And I'm not saying that for rhetoric, as an insult; I mean it literally: the dude has gone off the deep end, unhinged perhaps by his loss in 2000 (although I suspected even then, as a Democrat, that the guy was a couple pom-poms short of a full pep squad).

I used to think he was just a manipulative demagogue; but now I know he's nuts.

Anybody remember that movie from the early 80's, Scanners? I can picture Algore getting so worked up his head explodes just like in the movie.
Posted by: Dave D. || 05/27/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#8  Want to scare the Arabs sh!tless? Nominate, for Pres and VP, Dean and Gore while doing their best Hulk impressions.
Posted by: ed || 05/27/2004 11:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Didn't you say you entered politics in order to please your old man, al-Algore?

I'm sure daddy is really proud right about now.
Posted by: Chris W. || 05/27/2004 11:38 Comments || Top||

#10  ed - Want to scare the Arabs us sh!tless?
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 11:39 Comments || Top||

#11  Miss Jen-
I've been saying this since 9/11, but I will go to my grave believing that if AlGore had been President that day, he would have opened the nuclear football. He would have been under unbelievable pressure to 'prove' that he wasn't another Bill Clinton and do something forceful. Trouble is, it wouldn't have necessarily have been the right target at the right time...and if you think things are tough now, imagine what they would have been like after that.

Mike
Posted by: Anonymous5020 || 05/27/2004 11:42 Comments || Top||

#12  How do you post images? I had a good one of all gore and wanted to post it yesterday. BTW Ed, great pics!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 05/27/2004 11:52 Comments || Top||

#13  Mike, maybe...or he would have cried like a child and totally caved.
When people ask me what I think Gore would have done on 9/11 (long before yesterday), I tell them that all of us girls we'd be wearing burqas and we'd all be bowing down to Mecca 5 times a day.
Gore would have made us become the Islamic States of America.
Praise Jesus we'll never find out for sure!
Now let's make sure Kerry's defeated, too (because he and Al are ideological twins).
Posted by: Jen || 05/27/2004 11:55 Comments || Top||

#14  This thread was simply too good to ignore.
Posted by: AzCat || 05/27/2004 12:48 Comments || Top||

#15  Somebody had almost the same idea as me.

I think Al Gore is such a ripe target, that he has multitudes thinking along the same lines.
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 12:53 Comments || Top||

#16  That was me Ed, I did it this morning after seeing your thread here. :)
Posted by: AzCat || 05/27/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#17  OK Az - But without the beard. . . It loses something in the translation. . .
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 13:23 Comments || Top||

#18  AzCat, did you get that padded leather outfit where I think you got it from? *rolls eyes*

But here's my take, from the title.
Posted by: Edward Yee || 05/27/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#19  Imagine George Bush I going off on Clinton like that in '96. Or Bob Dole in 2000. You can't, can you? Maybe it's because they have a thing called class. All through their careers, not just in their old age. Bob Dole was great last night on Dennis Miller. Talk about a true American. His wit and wisdom were reminiscent of the Gipper's.
Posted by: BigMutha || 05/27/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#20  "I demand the resignation of Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz, and Condoleeza Rice, and Colin Powell, and John Ashcroft! YEEEEEAAAAAGGGHH!"
Posted by: Mike || 05/27/2004 14:07 Comments || Top||

#21  Why won't Kerry/Gore/Dean win? Because we know they will apologize for America and be the lackey for the UN; the majority of voting Americans will have more self-esteem than that. We will never trust our families and our country to the world's catatonic stupor in the face of danger. We will not smile while the international community dismisses our country as "cowboy-led" (which they interpret as an insult). Why would we continue to engage with a world that demands monetary, humanitarian, and military assistance, and then tirades against the US? The world is starting to resemble every family's freeloader, who comes to live with them, and no matter what is given, you are resented for the giving, and the giving is never enough. Why would we seek out international approval when there are fresh graves in the Darfur, filled with fresh corpses demanding justice, which the Politically Crippled (PC) crowd at the UN just can't make out.

In the Democrat's world, it doesn't really matter if we behave humanely--it just wants to be SEEN as behaving humanely. That is the world of Kerry/Gore/Dean.
Posted by: jules 187 || 05/27/2004 14:55 Comments || Top||

#22  AzCat, did you get that padded leather outfit where I think you got it from? *rolls eyes*

I can neither confirm nor deny that the source of that portion of the image is what you suspect. :)
Posted by: AzCat || 05/27/2004 15:27 Comments || Top||

#23  "Imagine George Bush I going off on Clinton like that in '96. Or Bob Dole in 2000. You can't, can you?" (BigMutha, #19)

Got that right! GW, Condi Rice, Rumsey or Powell wouldn't either. In fact, I can't think of a single, intelligent, moral, psychologically healthy, political rep that would. Gore's "style" of delivery reminds me of the Islamoturd mullahs. What does that mean?

About Gore: Talk about a mid-life crisis! He is just like communist pro-abort Molly Yard. She does exactly the same thing in exactly the same way--Scream, bitch, rinse, repeat.
Posted by: ex-lib || 05/27/2004 17:15 Comments || Top||

#24  The way I figure it:

1) 9/11 happens.

2) President Gore mentally throws a rod and rides the short-bus to the Laughing Academy.

3) The 25th Amendment kicks in.

4) President Lieberman is sworn in.

5) The (already softened) skulls of the folks eternally blaming the Joooos for everything implode.

See, the system does work.
Posted by: Darth VAda || 05/27/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#25  DV - And, there is a plauseable arguement that Lieberman would have fought the "War on Terror" in a similar manner to GWB.
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 18:13 Comments || Top||

#26  Ed - Yeah, I figured the same thing. I voted for Joe for Senate back when I lived in CT - the alternative was more Lowell Wanker Wiecker. He seemed fairly principled back then, but his 180 on issues when Gore gave him the nod in 2000 were a disappointment.

He's the only Democrat who ran who I could even consider voting for, and I'd have still gone with Bush in the end.
Posted by: Darth VAda || 05/27/2004 18:23 Comments || Top||

#27  Here in East Tennessee we call him "Howlin' Al".
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 05/27/2004 22:38 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
UN refugee chief theatrically clutches chest postpones trip
United Nations refugee chief Ruud Lubbers has postponed at the last minute a visit to Japan due to a heart complaint. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees and former Dutch Prime Minister is taking time off on doctor’s advice. He is suffering from heart problems, Radio Netherlands reported. Lubbers, 65, was scheduled to be in Japan from Monday to Thursday. It is not yet known when the visit will proceed, newspaper De Volkskrant reported. But a spokesman for Lubbers said his health problems were unrelated to a complaint of sexual harassment lodged against him in April this year.
Fred, Ruud needs to borrow some of your pills. A couple of Ex-Lax should do splendidly.
"No-o-o-o! The big orange ones!"
"Nurse! Give him an enema!"
Lubbers is accused of grabbing a 40-year-old female employee’s bottom. The UN has dispatched a special team of its internal investigation department to determine whether Lubbers is guilty of sexually harassing the woman in December 2003. It’s not known how long the investigation will take.
"Bertrand! Dispatch the Special Internal Investigation Team immediately. Make sure they have the best accomodations, long lunches, and a fleet of Toyota Landcruisers. Also every other Friday off...we wish this investigation to be quite, er, thorough."
"At once, your Excellency."

If only she'd been a helpless refugee ...
How does a UN committee investigate a heinie grab?
"... and did he grab your bottom like this?"
"Woohoo!... No. More toward the center..."
"Like this?"
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/27/2004 1:22:43 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if they're gonna fingerprint the 40 year old's bottom?
Posted by: mojo || 05/27/2004 2:44 Comments || Top||

#2  "It's the big one! I'm coming, Elizabeth!"
Posted by: BH || 05/27/2004 10:41 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Malaysian schools stage whipping demos to scare children
Malaysia has launched whipping demonstrations in schools to strike fear into the hearts of children tempted by criminal careers, local media reported Thursday. "Flogging Officer Number 1" Iskandar Zulkarnain Mohamad Radzi, 25, from Taiping Prison in northern Perak state, staged the first session on a dummy strapped to a frame before about 300 students at a local school this week. The pupils, who were also shown photographs of the injuries inflicted by caning, told the New Straits Times they were shocked by the severity of the punishment, imposed for a wide range of crimes in Malaysia, including under-age sex.

Radzi has been whipping convicts for seven years after being taught how to swing the 1.09-metre (yard) cane at a minimum speed of 160 kilometres per hour and produce a force upon impact of at least 90 kilos, he told the paper. Before he canes a prisoner, he dons a surgical mask to protect his identity and also to prevent bits of skin and flesh hitting his face, the daily said. Even the most hardened gangsters cried out in pain after the third stroke and those made of lesser stuff soiled their pants after the first lash, he said. Another flogger on the school circuit, Jigeira Singh, said 24 strokes was the maximum that could be inflicted at any one session. "If a person faints while being whipped, the whipping will be stopped and a medical officer will immediately attend to him," he said.

Deputy Internal Security Minister Noh Omar said the demos would be accompanied by briefings on the law as many teenagers were not aware that having sex with an underaged girl, even with her consent, could lead to a rape conviction. The whipping demonstrations will be staged at schools nationwide in an effort to reduce rising juvenile delinquency, officials said.
Posted by: Fred || 05/27/2004 4:51:08 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now I know where we send the surplus crash test dummys.
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 17:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Makes the old Scared Straight program look like Cub Scout camp, doesn't it?
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 17:16 Comments || Top||

#3  "If a person faints while being whipped, the whipping will be stopped and a medical officer will immediately attend to him," he said.

They neglect to mention how this is done only so that that subject may regain consciousness and not miss a single moment of the "fun."
Posted by: Zenster || 05/27/2004 20:57 Comments || Top||

#4  This is one south-east Asian Muslim nation we better be watching VERY closely.

Did someone say coup-time?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 05/27/2004 20:59 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iranians’ Use of the Internet Is Growing Quickly
Communication and Information Technology Minister Ahmad Motamedi said ... that 5 million Internet users were recorded ... to March 2004 ... Only about 200,000 Internet users were recorded ... to March 2001 .... Iran has a population of 68.9 million ....
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 05/27/2004 6:04:27 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And the Iranians happened upon Rantburg, home of civil, well-reasoned (most of the time) discourse, and the mullahs went down . . .
Posted by: The Doctor || 05/27/2004 9:44 Comments || Top||

#2  the internet should be the end of the 7th century Heaven known as Islam, but time will tell. Forced ignorance is the tool of the mullahs
Posted by: Frank G || 05/27/2004 10:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Quick - Is FoxNews, Realclearpolitics, Drudge, etc, translatable into Farsi?
Posted by: BigEd || 05/27/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#4  The internet allows the average non-jihadic minded Iranian to really fathom the pickle Iran's public finds themselves, and maybe the will to overthrow the mad mullahs which have enslaved them since 1979.

America must assisted true Iranians in this quest for a free republic.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 05/27/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Belmont Club: NY Times has an Intelligence Failure (D'oh!)
Posted by: Frank G || 05/27/2004 19:52 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Afghanistan/South Asia
Lawyer says Rehmat Afridi was framed
LAHORE: The lawyer representing Rehmat Shah Afridi, chief editor of The Frontier Post, on Wednesday concluded arguments in an appeal before the Lahore High Court (LHC) against death sentence for Mr Afridi in two cases of drug smuggling. The prosecution lawyer, who started arguments on Wednesday would resume them today (Thursday). Mr Afridi’s lawyer Syed Ehsan Qadir Shah said his client was victimised. The lawyer said that throughout the case, Mr Afridi had maintained that a false case was registered against him for publishing stories about the corruption of then prime minister Nawaz Sharif, and some officials of the Anti-Narcotics Force (ANF).
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Five newspapers banned for obscenity
KARACHI: The Sindh government has imposed a 30-day ban on five Urdu daily newspapers of Karachi for publishing nude photos and “vulgar” stories, a spokesman of the Information Department said in a press released on Wednesday. The banned dailies are: Morning Special, Evening Special, Mid Special, Daily Special and Zamana.
Isn't that... ummm... Special? I'm impressed. Pak newspapers publishing nekkid pictures? Sounds like taking one's life into one's own hands. Though I'd guess the Pak definition of "nekkid" is pretty fluid...
"The brazen hussy! Lookidat ankle!"
The spokesman said the banned newspapers not only tarnished the image of the local press but also promoted immorality in society through nude pictures.
I guess T&A will do that, especially if there's a high incidence of turbans in the vicinity...
Police raided the offices of these newspapers and their printing presses on Tuesday and arrested the editorial and technical staff. Some of these newspapers had already been banned during the tenure of former governor Muhammadmian Soomro. They were restored after an undertaking of their publishers that they would no longer publish any vulgar material.
Posted by: Fred || 05/27/2004 1:29:52 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Only four of the five were special, I see.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 05/27/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#2  I'd guess "zamana" is Urdu for "special"...

Just a hunch.
Posted by: Fred || 05/27/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
BW&BK / ICED EARTH "Controversy" - YOU Be The Judge
Posted by: tipper || 05/27/2004 10:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  im thinking i read this at misha's yesterday. never heard of these guys.
Posted by: muck4doo || 05/27/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#2  I think IcedEarth did a few Iron Maiden covers.
And they've been around for a bit.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB040405271108372427&sql=B8jd3vwnva9rk
Posted by: Anonymous4021 || 05/27/2004 11:08 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Moslem Guardian of Christian Children Caught Tapping Trust Fund
An Islamic court judge in Amman told Christian widow Siham Qandah yesterday that according to new evidence, her children’s Muslim guardian recently withdrew another large amount of money from their orphan trust funds. The judge reportedly ordered an immediate investigation into the apparent embezzlement. Qandah has been locked in a legal battle with her brother Abdullah al-Muhtadi for the past six years to retain custody of her daughter Rawan and son Fadi, now 15 and 14 years of age. Al-Muhtadi converted to Islam as a teenager and remains estranged from his Christian family. He vowed to raise his sister’s children, who are both baptized Christians, as Muslims after a “conversion” certificate was found claiming that their father secretly converted to Islam before his death. Two years ago Qandah was ordered by the Supreme Court of Jordan to surrender her children to her brother’s custody. She and her children immediately went into several rounds of hiding, buying time with several desperate legal and diplomatic appeals to reverse the decision.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 05/27/2004 3:09:30 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls TROLL || 05/27/2004 5:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Sadly, this is not an uncommon event, and religion probably has little to do with it. The world is full of faithless fiduciaries.
Posted by: Mike || 05/27/2004 9:31 Comments || Top||

#3  DBT, still having problems with that link thing, I see...
Posted by: Raj || 05/27/2004 13:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Blame Michael Jackson, and the White-Glove Underground:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_27-5-2004_pg3_2

Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls || 05/27/2004 5:12 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Egypt Fails Effort to Prevent Reconversion Back to Christianity
In an unprecedented verdict on April 13, an Egyptian court ordered the Interior Ministry to return formal Christian identity status to a Coptic Christian who had converted to Islam 11 years ago and then returned to her Christian faith. The decision resolved a six-month stand-off with state security officials and required them to return the Christian I.D. card of Mira Makram Gobran Hanna to her possession. Now 30, Hanna had signed papers in March 1993 to convert to Islam but obtained the approval of the ecclesiastical council to return to the Coptic Orthodox Church 13 months later. Last October, security police forcibly confiscated Hanna’s national I.D. card. Egyptian citizens 16 years and older are required to carry their I.D. cards at all times. The recent ruling in Hanna’s favor upholds the principle of freedom of belief enshrined in the Egyptian Constitution, according to her legal counsel Nagib Gibrael. “This verdict indicates the reliability of the Egyptian courts,” Gibrael told Compass. Under the Egyptian government’s long-standing interpretation of Islamic law, Muslims have been forbidden to convert to another faith.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 05/27/2004 3:04:55 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  *surprise meter broken, the mercury seeps into Edward's brain and makes him more insomniac than he already is*
Posted by: Edward Yee || 05/27/2004 3:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Edward, I know the feeling... (Been keeping Count Dracula hours myself.)
You know, that must have been some talk President Bush had down at Crawford with Hosni Mubarrak.
Posted by: Jen || 05/27/2004 4:11 Comments || Top||

#3 
Fatwa in 5...4...3...
Followed immedately by lynch mob.
How dare that uppity woman spurn the Master Religion?
Posted by: N Guard || 05/27/2004 10:16 Comments || Top||



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