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Pakistan denies Indian president's request to use its airspace for overflight
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Afghanistan
Afghan government says real peace will come when Taliban stop violence, hold direct talks
KABUL (Reuters) - President Ashraf Ghani’s office on Sunday said real peace in Afghanistan was only possible when the Taliban stopped their violence and held direct talks with the government.

U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday canceled peace talks with the Taliban’s "major leaders" at a presidential compound in Camp David, Maryland after the insurgent group claimed responsibility for an attack in Kabul last week that killed an American soldier and 11 other people.

Taliban fighters, who now control more territory than at any time since the war started in 2001, launched assaults on the northern cities of Kunduz and Pul-e Khumri over the past week and carried out two major suicide bombings in the capital Kabul.

"Real peace will come when Taliban agree to a ceasefire," Ghani’s officials said in statement in response to Trump’s cancellation of secret peace talks
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/08/2019 04:14 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  "Real peace will come when Taliban agree to a ceasefire," Ghani’s officials said

"Real peace will come when everybody who wants to vote is dead !" - Turbans
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/08/2019 6:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Real peace will come when everyone bump their heads on the ground towards Mecca 5 times a day.
Posted by: jpal || 09/08/2019 11:34 Comments || Top||

#3  This looks like both 'liberated Afghanistan' and the West begging the Taliban to accept an improved (for the Taliban!) status quo ante.

Taliban Afghanistan is supposed to be neutralized as a terrorist sanctuary because the West will pay danegeld and make political concessions to the Taliban.

GWB should have offered such negotiations in 2001 instead of issuing blood curdling threats and ultimatums that weren't meant (and taken) seriously.

Powell was more honest in October of 2001.

The pretend war in Afghanistan has been eroding Western deterrence and reputation while exacting a high price in blood and money.

This is how a West with zero civilizational confidence reacts to a massive attack.

Iran, China, North Korea, Venezuela, Russia et al are observing this spectacle and drawing conclusions.

Nuts!

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Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 09/08/2019 13:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Taliban Afghanistan is supposed to be neutralized as a terrorist sanctuary

Elmerert, the problem with that for America is that the taliban network, its trainers and facilitators all lie within Pakistain.

Unless local enmities like the Balochistan rebels or Afghan loyalists India would have been ideal for this, but we're just too self-obsessed to realize it can be actuated against the leadership in Quetta, and select parts of western Pakistain to destroy the taliban core, it will still be a waste.

Bombing caves and the Regestan desert will just result in hopeless civilian casualties which the UN and every islamic country will then vilify Trump for. The best thing would be a 100% pull out now and leave it the hell alone. It's a bitter thing to swallow, but the US has really done enough.

Also, Trump should deny the CIA access to this region and rely on Israeli intel for America's needs from Af. He'll see it will adversely affect the deepState and 'the swamp' back in Washington too.

The taliban will die only with a nuke on Quetta, Pakistain. Who does it, is anybody's guess. But it will come within the next ten years, insha Allan.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/08/2019 14:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Real Peace™ in Afghan will come when the ISI and Pakland is a smoking glass. Land of The Pure will NEVER stop trying to play Great Games™ until they're all dead
Posted by: Frank G || 09/08/2019 16:19 Comments || Top||

#6  My point was that the Western political class' consensus plan has been to neutralize the Taliban threat using danegeld and some measure of political appeasement; since at least October of 2001.

Right now the best option (all realistic options are atrocious) would be a precipitous withdrawal from Afghanistan combined with threats of massive strategic retaliation in case of new aggression against the West.

In any case a new precedent has been established:

A state sponsored mass fatality attack against a Western center of power is not a deadly mistake. Perhaps it is even a winning move.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660 || 09/08/2019 22:29 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Muslim Brotherhood’s internal wars as young vs. old divisions grow
[AlAhram] Young Muslim Brothers serving long jail terms in Egypt have demanded the group’s leadership resigns.

Muslim Brotherhood divisions grow
[AlAhram] A number of proposals have been made in the hope of securing the early release of Muslim Brotherhood detainees serving long jail terms
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under: Muslim Brotherhood

#1  The youth leadership not conveniently accepting the role of fodder.

"But, Sheikh ! We can't be bailing them out just because they've a union now. Next they'll want term limits for 'Grand Ayatollah' !"
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/08/2019 13:37 Comments || Top||


Europe
Swedish imam fined for calling Jews the ‘offspring of apes and pigs’
[IsraelTimes] A Swedish imam has been fined about $305 for hate speech for calling Jews the "offspring of apes and pigs" during an anti-Israel demonstration two years ago.
Every once in a while something is done about it, though some might question whether this is actually meaningful.
Samir el Rifai of Helsingborg made the statement in Arabic in response to Israel limiting prayer at the al-Aqsa Mosque after two Israel Police officers were killed at the Temple Mount in Jerusalem’s Old City in a Paleostinian terror attack.

"There is no prophet against whom those who are the progeny of monkeys and pigs have not made evil plans against. They did it to all prophets and to all nations, this has also affected our prophet, peace be upon him," el Rifai said at the July 2017 demonstration organized by the Swedish-Paleostinian Centre, the Swedish newspaper Expressen reported Monday.

His statements were reported to police by the Jewish Assembly in Helsingborg.

The imam told the Helsingborg District Court at his trial in May that his statements referred to the State of Israel and not all Jews ‐ an argument the court did not accept as valid, saying that the word Jew is not the same as the State of Israel.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  but that is what the Koran says in 2:65, 5:60 and 7:166.
Posted by: lord garth || 09/08/2019 7:31 Comments || Top||

#2  His Taqiyya Filter™ broke down and is in the shop being fixed?
Posted by: magpie || 09/08/2019 14:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Please just kill him, Mossad.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/08/2019 14:22 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
India preparing grounds for false-flag operation by projecting 2 Pakistani civilians as terrorists: ISPR
[DAWN] The military's media wing on Saturday cautioned that the Indian army and media were projecting two Pak civilians who had inadvertently crossed the Line of Control (LoC) last month as Death Eaters in "yet another attempt to fabricate facts".On August 21, two farmers in Azad Jammu and Kashmir
...a disputed territory lying between India and Pakistain. After partition, the Paks grabbed half of it and call it Azad (Free) Kashmir. The remainder they refer to as "Indian Occupied Kashmir". They have fought four wars with India over it, the score currently 4-0 in New Delhi's favor. After 72 years of this nonsense, India cut the Gordian knot in 2019, removing the area's special status, breaking off Ladakh as a separate state, and allowing people from other areas to settle (or in the case of the Pandits, to resettle) there....
, identified as Muhammad Nazeem, 21, and 30-year-old Khalil Ahmed, had unintentionally crossed the LoC near Hajipir while they were out for cutting grass, a blurb issued by the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said.

The incident was discussed by Pak and Indian military authorities during their weekly hotline contact on August 27. Indian authorities had at the time informed Pakistain that routine legal formalities were taking place and that they would get back on that account, according to the ISPR.

However,
you can observe a lot just by watching...
on September 2 some Indian media outlets "fabricated the facts" and portrayed the two Pak individuals as members of a proscribed organization.

As per the blurb, the false Indian story was communicated to Indian authorities during the next weekly hotline contact on Sept 3.

It was then "assured by Indian side that due legal process was in place and outcome will be shared with Pak authorities", the military's media wing said.

In complete disregard to formal information-sharing mechanisms, however, "a false and fabricated story was presented by Indian Army during a presser on September 4 portraying the individuals as terrorists," the statement added.

It said the apprehended Pak civilians were also forced to give a confessional statement under duress of the Indian military that they were trained in Pakistain and belonged to Rawalpindi.

"The attempt is another Indian effort to prepare grounds for a false-flag operation," the ISPR said, adding that Pakistain was taking up a formal case regarding the development based on evidence to "expose Indian lies".

The statement clarified that both individuals in Indian custody are inadvertent crossers who are local farmers and residents of village Terraban (Hillan) along the LoC and not Rawalpindi.
Posted by: Fred || 09/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [16 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel to its embassies: Cease and Desist - out of money!
[Twitter]
Posted by: 3dc || 09/08/2019 13:11 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Of course it's a peremptory shutdown of business as usual. Lebanon can't go unpunished. Means Israeli embassies are shortly going to see a lot of wailing and beating of the breasts at their gates.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 09/08/2019 13:31 Comments || Top||

#2  "ISRAELI TO IT'S EMBASSIES" . . . . . . to it is embassies? Why can't anyone write in decent English anymore?
Posted by: Canuckistan sniper || 09/08/2019 13:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Headline fixed. Thanks, Canuckistan sniper.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/08/2019 14:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Hey, now, CS... pedantic grammar and spelling critique is my terrirtory


LOL ;-)
Posted by: Frank G || 09/08/2019 16:24 Comments || Top||

#5  He's never interfaced with an Embasissy.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/08/2019 19:59 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Turkey wants Syrian Army to withdraw from Khan Sheikhoun and several areas
[ALMASDARNEWS] The Ottoman Turkish authorities want the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) to withdraw from several areas in southern Idlib and northern Hama, a source from the military told al-Masdar News on Friday.

According to the military source, the Ottoman Turkish authorities called on the Russian Armed Forces to force the Syrian Army to withdraw from the territories they captured in August.

The military source said the recently captured territories include the key city of Khan Sheikhoun and the town of Morek, which currently has a Ottoman Turkish observation post inside of it.

Thus far, the Syrian Army has withdrawn from the Ottoman Turkish observation post area in the town of Morek; however, they were quickly replaced by the Russian military police, who sent a convoy to the northern countryside of the Hama Governorate.

While the Syrian Army did agree to leave the Morek area, it is highly unlikely that they will withdraw from Khan Sheikhoun or the other areas they captured from the murderous Moslem forces in northern Hama and southern Idlib.

Posted by: Fred || 09/08/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte



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