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2019-09-08 Afghanistan

Afghan government says real peace will come when Taliban stop violence, hold direct talks

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Posted by Besoeker 2019-09-08 04:14|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top
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#1 "Real peace will come when Taliban agree to a ceasefire," Ghani’s officials said

"Real peace will come when everybody who wants to vote is dead !" - Turbans

Posted by Dron66046 2019-09-08 06:09|| 2019-09-08 06:09|| Front Page Top

#2 Real peace will come when everyone bump their heads on the ground towards Mecca 5 times a day.

Posted by jpal 2019-09-08 11:34|| 2019-09-08 11:34|| Front Page Top

#3 This looks like both 'liberated Afghanistan' and the West begging the Taliban to accept an improved (for the Taliban!) status quo ante.

Taliban Afghanistan is supposed to be neutralized as a terrorist sanctuary because the West will pay danegeld and make political concessions to the Taliban.

GWB should have offered such negotiations in 2001 instead of issuing blood curdling threats and ultimatums that weren't meant (and taken) seriously.

Powell was more honest in October of 2001.

The pretend war in Afghanistan has been eroding Western deterrence and reputation while exacting a high price in blood and money.

This is how a West with zero civilizational confidence reacts to a massive attack.

Iran, China, North Korea, Venezuela, Russia et al are observing this spectacle and drawing conclusions.

Nuts!

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Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2019-09-08 13:29|| 2019-09-08 13:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Taliban Afghanistan is supposed to be neutralized as a terrorist sanctuary

Elmerert, the problem with that for America is that the taliban network, its trainers and facilitators all lie within Pakistain.

Unless local enmities like the Balochistan rebels or Afghan loyalists India would have been ideal for this, but we're just too self-obsessed to realize it can be actuated against the leadership in Quetta, and select parts of western Pakistain to destroy the taliban core, it will still be a waste.

Bombing caves and the Regestan desert will just result in hopeless civilian casualties which the UN and every islamic country will then vilify Trump for. The best thing would be a 100% pull out now and leave it the hell alone. It's a bitter thing to swallow, but the US has really done enough.

Also, Trump should deny the CIA access to this region and rely on Israeli intel for America's needs from Af. He'll see it will adversely affect the deepState and 'the swamp' back in Washington too.

The taliban will die only with a nuke on Quetta, Pakistain. Who does it, is anybody's guess. But it will come within the next ten years, insha Allan.

Posted by Dron66046 2019-09-08 14:53|| 2019-09-08 14:53|| Front Page Top

#5 Real Peace™ in Afghan will come when the ISI and Pakland is a smoking glass. Land of The Pure will NEVER stop trying to play Great Games™ until they're all dead

Posted by Frank G 2019-09-08 16:19|| 2019-09-08 16:19|| Front Page Top

#6 My point was that the Western political class' consensus plan has been to neutralize the Taliban threat using danegeld and some measure of political appeasement; since at least October of 2001.

Right now the best option (all realistic options are atrocious) would be a precipitous withdrawal from Afghanistan combined with threats of massive strategic retaliation in case of new aggression against the West.

In any case a new precedent has been established:

A state sponsored mass fatality attack against a Western center of power is not a deadly mistake. Perhaps it is even a winning move.

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2019-09-08 22:29|| 2019-09-08 22:29|| Front Page Top

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