The Affordable Care Act forces companies with more than 50 workers to buy them all health insurance or pay hefty fines
The IRS says volunteer firefighters are 'employees,' even though the Department of Labor says they're 'volunteers'
Out of more than 1 million fire departments in the U.S., 87 per cent are staffed entirely or mostly by life-saving volunteers
Members of Congress are weighing in, but the Obama administration hasn't taken any action yet to carve out a fire-fighting exception
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And what type of communities generally have non-union, volunteer fire departments? Yes, suburban and rural. I doubt Champ will be taking any action.
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These are small communities that do not have either a tax base nor any other revenue source to support a payroll, benefits or even Obama's unaffordable health insurance/tax. The departments will not close. They are essential.
Individuals within the community provide the equipment, enough funding to keep the gas tanks full, and time for training and actual dousing of the flames or transporting to the hospital of neighbors and family by those who bless their communities by volunteering their time to such essential life saving activities. It is a tradition since day one when volunteers of the continental army kicked King George and his Red Coats out of the US shortly after an American version of a tea party was held in Boston harbor.
Any attempt to interfere will result in this liberal socialist regime getting a thorough ass kicking. Tea time once again.
#5
Job losses are major. These jobs pay very well. Coal industry and related services. Insurance Industry and related services. Health care Industry is huge(continuing education, License fees. boggles the mind.). There will not be enough workers to support government workers. They fiddle and drink wine as the ship goes down.
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The next time the liberals think it would be cute or very liberal/lefty to elect some member of a minority group (fill-in-the-blank) with no consideration of the candidates capabilities, maybe they will think twice when their house is on fire.
Posted by: Alaska Paul ||
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I believe most of these volunteer departments are less than 50 to begin with, so what is really affected are the larger communities with income issues.
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Volunteerism deprives potential union workers of jobs. And since they are not employees, when you make them go away they don't increase unemployment rate, but when you hire union replacements it decreases the unemployment rate. What? You say you can't afford to hire professional union replacements? Here's a federal grant to cover the first two years (then it's your responsibility.) You still don't want to do it? Well, we'll just assess a mandatory fee - er, tax - to provide for it; it's for the children, you know. (And when business cut back or close due to increased taxes or to decreased sales due to increased taxes on customers, we will blame it on the evil capitalist businesses.) Have I forgotten anything?
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Many of the volunteers in my area have a real paying job; they chase the fires because they enjoy it. so why should they be required to pay twice?
never mind, i forgot we have a mental midget running the place.
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Agreed Glen - been a volunteer firefighter for over 22 years - very active. Small town in Rhode Island. Love my guys and many of us are well trained and in great physical shape. I wear a pager and when the alarm goes off my company never asks a question. Our Mil rate is low at $ 10.00 per thousand for real estate. I must agree with your sentiment. We do not get much respect from the Union guys for obvious reasons.
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I am beginning to believe Obama doesn't know anything in reality. His underlings are unsupervised. So EPA, IRS, TSA and so on are doing their own thing. Party time.
Posted by: Barbara ||
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That health insurance ain't free, and it is not cheap. We have the best we can afford and it only works when the equipment is on. We joke that if one of us slips on ice and bangs their head, somebody should throw their bunker gear on them.
And if they count as members of the County, they can group departments together on the County same as a multi-business owner gets the sum total of employees.
Volunteer means 24 hours, so the time limit is breached.
The insurance is for the wife, who after hearing the first exciting story will put her foot down and say no more. Remember when Russia caught fire not too long ago? Gut every volunteer department between the Rockies and the Mississippi River, see what happens to your food prices.
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I would hope that Volunteer Fire Fighters are at least covered by Workers Comp.
I believe this is why "Volunteer Fire Fighters" have an ambiguous employment status. Volunteers are usual not consider employees & thus not covered by workers comp. The high risk of injury & death to firefighters does need some kind of coverage, so this is generally extended to them.
[Fox News Sunday] GEORGE WILL: The education of this president is a protracted and often amusing process - as it was this week - as he continues to alight upon the obvious with a sense of profound and original discovery. He's alighting on what is obvious to governors. This is really why we should have governors more often than senators as president.
The president is saying the trouble with big government is it's so darned big. And like a lot of other big organisms - dinosaurs spring to mind - it has a central nervous system, it's sclerotic, it's governed by inertia, and it's hard to move. This from a man who's devoted his life to increasing the power of government as an instrument of the redistribution of income because government is wiser than markets at that. It's, as I say, highly amusing. Not at all amusing to the people responsible for picking up the tab. According to ValJar, Champ "would be ready to rule by on one!"
#1
"Highly amusing"? Not to us real grass roots conservatives. Mayb amusing to patrician Manhattan-ite snots who play the part of the token conservative in the cocktail party circuit out there on the east coast. I have nothing but scorn for Will and his tweed jacket ilk, and the RINO crowd they support (Boehner, McCain, McConnel. etc). The world will be a better place when they all finally die and end their opposition of real conservatives.
#2
What you (Americans) needed is a constitutional amendment making, at least one full term, state governors the only ones eligible to run for POTUS. It's too late now, of course (am I kidding or not?)
#3
Bringing very little to the table in 2008, it is not particularly amusing to watch his ineptitude in office. It is not amusing to watch him breaking glass in the store on a regular basis and leaving it to someone else to pick up the pieces. There are times he appears to be downright untrainable or unteachable. There is a cartoon going around depicting the founding fathers discussing the inclusion of an "escape clause" in the Constitution in the event the people elect a moron.
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