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Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gladys Georgianna Greene aka Jean Arthur



A horse of a different color

PETA Called the Cops?

Daily Gam Shot

Those are not pillows!

If I cut right here

Nightie Night


Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/05/2009 4:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Hmmm... I've seen that movie. That didn't look like her in it, though...
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 14:49 Comments || Top||


-Lurid Crime Tales-
Seven dead, 20 injured in Fort Hood shooting
The Army says seven people were killed and 20 wounded in a pair of shootings at the Fort Hood Army base in Killeen, according to the Associated Press.

An Army spokesman at the Pentagon says the shootings began about 1:30 p.m. Thursday at a personnel and medical processing center at Fort Hood, the AP said.

The spokesman, Lieutenant Colonel Nathan Banks, says two shooters were apparently involved. There is no word yet on who they were, nor on identities of the dead, according to the AP.

Banks says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base, the AP said.

He says it is too soon to tell whether there is any link to battle stress or repeated deployments. The Army is suffering a record high suicide rate and other signs of stress from fighting two wars, the AP said.

Greg Schannep, an aide to U.S. Rep. John Carter, told Statesman.com he was on the Army post to attend a graduation service. He said that as he neared the entrance of a building where the service was being held, a soldier with blood on his uniform ran past him and said a man was shooting.

Schannep said the shootings appeared to have occurred in a complex near a theater where the service was scheduled. He was with the injured soldier, who he said appeared to have been struck in the shoulder but did not have life-threatening injuries.

At 2:18 p.m., all workers at Fort Hood received this email alert from the post headquarters:

“Fort Hood is locked down. Units are advised to do 100 percent accountability. This is not a drill.”

Todd Martin, assistant for communications at the Killeen school district, said the district has seven elementary schools and two middle schools on the post itself.

“Those have been locked down since this began,” Martin said. The other schools in the district outside the post have not been locked down, he said.

The district serves Killeen, Fort Hood, Harker Heights and Nolanville.

The elementary campuses, which typically releases between 2:45 and 3:15 p.m. had a two-hour early release day scheduled for today, so some students already had gone home. District administrators did not know how many of the students from the elementary schools were still on campus.

There's more at the link.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/05/2009 17:05 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hannity just said lead shooter is
MAJOR MALIK NADAL HASSAN (An officer?)

WE NEED A ZERO SURPRISE METER.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2009 17:17 Comments || Top||

#2  That was reported by ABC at this link:

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 11/05/2009 17:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Just saw Obama blovating on tv, he's got no idea whats going on, and blustered his way along all over the TV
Said, Our Govenment and yours will look into this as the days and months pass(Moron)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/05/2009 17:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Kay Bailey Hutchison is just as bad. She's speculating the primary shooter was about to be deployed to Iraq and was 'upset' about it. Spit!
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 17:32 Comments || Top||

#5  MAJOR MALIK NADAL HASSAN (An officer?)


OF WHO'S ARMY.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/05/2009 17:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Yes - that's the obvious next question. Also along those lines - how and where do we separate foreign nationals using our bases for training. I recall numerous stories along these lines, all the way from foreign students at USMA, to the School for (of?) the America's at Ft. Benning (?), to various other installations.

I expect we'll see zero to no background reporting on military security and intelligence, and plenty on truly irrelevant topics such as gun control and the NRA.
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division || 11/05/2009 17:50 Comments || Top||

#7  As crazy as this might sound to civilians, military installations are "gun-free" zones just as much as any college campus.
Posted by: Grunt_0369 || 11/05/2009 18:02 Comments || Top||

#8  In other words,Grunt, a "target-rich environment"
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 11/05/2009 18:12 Comments || Top||

#9  In other words,Grunt, a "target-rich environment"
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 11/05/2009 18:15 Comments || Top||

#10  Right now they are trying to find out if the Muslim was a convert. Also there are two others involved and captured.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/05/2009 18:32 Comments || Top||

#11  Not a convert. Probably from Syria.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 18:47 Comments || Top||

#12  The two suspects have been released. See other thread.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 18:47 Comments || Top||

#13  military installations are "gun-free" zones

Only in theory, Grunt, IIRC. One can register a gun with the MP's and keep it secured IIRC.
Posted by: Cresh Mussolini9374 || 11/05/2009 18:52 Comments || Top||

#14  Malik Nadal Hasan (PHOTO): Key Details Emerge About Fort Hood Shooting Suspect

Military officials say the suspected shooter at Fort Hood was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed Army Medical Center for six years before being transferred to the Texas base in July.

The officials had access to Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's military record. They said he received a poor performance evaluation while at Walter Reed.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because military records are confidential.

The Virginia-born soldier was single with no children. He was 39 years old.

He is a graduate of Virginia Tech University, where he was a member of the ROTC and earned a bachelor's degree in biochemistry in 1997. He received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001. At Walter Reed, he did his internship, residency and a fellowship.


Posted by: tipper || 11/05/2009 19:20 Comments || Top||

#15  Hasan's cousin is being interviewed by FoxNews.

"Hasan was a good American". "He was being harrassed by his military colleagues".

"He's always been Muslim [not a convert]".

Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 19:24 Comments || Top||

#16  and The Zero gives a "shout out" to an audience member before acknowledging the tragedy evil that occurred:
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2009 19:26 Comments || Top||

#17  What are chances this was the promised Iranian payback for the Iranian generals that were killed by suicide bomb a couple of weeks back?

This could be tit for tat.
Posted by: Bugs Spease7436 || 11/05/2009 19:35 Comments || Top||

#18  It sounds like another case of Sudden Jihadi Syndrome.
Posted by: Formerly Dan || 11/05/2009 19:46 Comments || Top||

#19  Stomach turning as the details comes out. We won't know the full details until tommorrow or later I'm sure, but 12 dead now. Makes me sick. FrankG Obama clip makes me want to punch the turd in the mouth.
Posted by: Charles || 11/05/2009 19:53 Comments || Top||

#20  Now is the time for our President to lead us in group national apology.

Raise your hand if you were surprised to learn the murderer was a Muslim. Yup just like I thought.

I pray the repose of the souls of those murdered and for their families.

God save us from our President and his cabinet.
Posted by: Lord Dashwood || 11/05/2009 22:05 Comments || Top||

#21  Update bio
And this may be the Lady who brought him down.
Further update
Posted by: tipper || 11/05/2009 22:47 Comments || Top||

#22  I just found his blog.
Posted by: tipper || 11/05/2009 23:00 Comments || Top||

#23  Why won't anybody say the scumbag is a MOOOSSSSLIMMM?

I get nervous watching Shep Smith (has he declared a gender yet?) but you would think Fox News could loan him a pair of kiwis and have him say it was another apostle of of the religion of peace.
Posted by: Bikey Chicky || 11/05/2009 23:05 Comments || Top||

#24  Update
A source tells NPR's Joseph Shapiro that Hasan was put on probation early in his postgraduate work at the Uniformed Service University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He was disciplined for proselytizing about his Muslim faith with patients and colleagues, according to the source, who worked with him at the time.
Posted by: tipper || 11/05/2009 23:16 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
U.S. Army Soldiers Defend Outpost In Pech River Valley
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/05/2009 12:32 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


JDAM finishes Night Engagement
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/05/2009 12:24 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Night Engagement
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/05/2009 12:21 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Inside view Hunwee Firefight Afghanistan
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/05/2009 12:18 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Guard for hire feels the heat in assault on U.N. workers in Afghanistan
Interesting piece from the Kabul UN attack
The bedlam kicked off about 5 a.m. Wednesday when disguised Taliban gunmen shot their way into a Kabul guest house and ignited a two-hour firefight.

By the time the smoke was settling, at least five U.N. workers, including an American, two Afghan security officials and the brother-in-law of a prominent politician lay dead along with three attackers.

John Christopher “Chris” Turner, a private contractor from Leawood, was among those who weathered the seemingly endless gun and grenade fire.

It was another intriguing chapter for a man who has spent part of four decades in the nation he has called “Hashistan.” That was the title of a documentary he has filmed during his time there.

“I didn’t pick up my watch, just my gun and my ammo,” he said outside the guest house, where he had returned after the attack to retrieve what was left of his belongings. “I got as many people out as I could. By the time I got downstairs, the lounge was ablaze.”

By attacking and destroying a civilian lodging housing more than 30 U.N. employees — many of them in Afghanistan to monitor the election runoff — the insurgents signaled a tactical shift.

Previous attacks in Kabul have largely been directed against military targets and the Indian Embassy.

In the end, more than two dozen people survived the assault in which the suicide attackers dressed in police uniforms shot the guards, leapt into the grounds and began spraying rifle and grenade fire. The 6-foot-2, 62-year-old Turner told reporters and his parents that he shepherded many of the survivors to safety in a laundry room.
Rest at link
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 09:08 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  The UN has been operating in Hasishistan for 50 years? Makes you wonder what they did to p*ss off the Taliban now.
Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091 || 11/05/2009 10:49 Comments || Top||


Pentagon hopes new M-ATV is 'life-saver'
Pic at link. Looks like a Humvee on steroids.
It looks likes a cross between a Humvee and a monster truck, and Pentagon officials hope it can save the lives of U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

The Pentagon is rushing the M-ATV, the latest version of the U.S. military's blast-resistant vehicles, to Afghanistan as roadside bombs take a heavy toll on U.S. forces there.

"It will be a life-saver in Afghanistan," said the Pentagon's chief weapons buyer, Ashton B. Carter, undersecretary of defense for acquisition, technology and logistics.

October was the bloodiest month of the Afghanistan campaign, with 59 U.S. troops killed. At least 26 were victims of roadside bombs, also known as improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, according to Pentagon figures.

Since 2007, the number of roadside bombs in Afghanistan has jumped 350 percent, according to Pentagon statistics. Although many of the bombs are found before they detonate, the number of troops killed has increased by more than 400 percent, and the number wounded is up more 700 percent over the past two years.

The U.S. military has thousands of blast-proof Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles in Afghanistan. The MRAPs have been highly effective in shielding troops from roadside bombs in Iraq, but mountainous Afghanistan differs markedly from desert Iraq, where the MRAPs operated largely on paved roads and in open areas.

Combat operations in Afghanistan often involve unpaved roads and small mountain villages not suited to the bulky, 40,000-pound MRAP, Pentagon officials have said. And the military's ubiquitous and more maneuverable Humvees have proved vulnerable to roadside bombs during Afghan operations.

So the Pentagon quickly developed, and is betting on, the new MRAP-All Terrain Vehicle, or M-ATV, to protect troops.

With the weight reduced to 25,000 pounds, independent suspension and a better turning radius, the M-ATV gives the troops more power and maneuverability in Afghanistan's tight spaces, the Pentagon says. Officials say it will eventually replace the Humvee as a combat vehicle in rural Afghanistan.

"The terrain in Afghanistan is different from Iraq. It's more uneven; the roads are difficult to traverse. That's why we've had to create an all-terrain version," Carter said, standing next to one of the vehicles at the Pentagon this week.

Forty-one of the M-ATVs have been deployed to Afghanistan since late September, according to Pentagon officials. They hope to have at least 5,000 of the trucks there by March.

The first production order was given to Wisconsin-based manufacturer Oshkosh Corp. in June, according to Carter, and the factory in Oshkosh has been working feverishly to build them since.

Each M-ATV costs $437,000, but the price tag rises to more than $1 million each when all of the combat equipment is installed, according to Pentagon officials.

The M-ATV is primarily made of fiberglass and lighter metals, but the crew cab is designed with the same blast-proof qualities -- a V-shaped hull to disperse a blast away from the vehicle and blast-proof metal and windows -- as the older MRAP.

Each M-ATV stands about 6 feet wide and well over 12 feet tall with the top gunner mount on the roof. The top of the wheel well is about 6 feet off the ground. The wheels alone are 4 feet high. The windows are thick and dark because of the blast-proof technology.

"These new vehicles are urgently needed, because improvised explosive devices are claiming the lives of more U.S. and coalition forces in Afghanistan than ever before," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said in September as the first M-ATVs were deployed to Afghanistan.

The M-ATV will start allowing more troops in small unit combat operations to move faster and more nimbly off-road, giving troops more route options to avoid danger or chase the enemy, officials say.

MRAPs will still be used in larger cities and areas where paved or improved roads exist.

The MRAP program started under the Bush administration in response to calls that the military was not sufficiently protecting U.S. forces in Iraq as roadside bombs became the weapon of choice by insurgents there.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates saw the MRAP as the answer, and he quickly pushed the vehicles into development and moved them to Iraq.
Posted by: gorb || 11/05/2009 03:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So the UK government will license the tech and build some for UK troops???

Nope, cos they prefer British troops dead and away from the country so they cannot oppose the abolition of Britain.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/05/2009 6:33 Comments || Top||

#2  MRAPs will still be used in larger cities and areas where paved or improved roads exist.

Like Oakland?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 11/05/2009 7:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Each M-ATV costs $437,000, but the price tag rises to more than $1 million each when all of the combat equipment is installed

Damn cheap if you ask me , especially when one looks at the MOD (UK) procurement team spending and how inept they are .

Posted by: Oscar || 11/05/2009 8:04 Comments || Top||

#4  BP,

In fairness to the UK MOD, the Mastiff (the British adaptation of the MRAP) was by far the best vehicle I rode in Iraq.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 11/05/2009 11:04 Comments || Top||

#5  There is a lot of work on improving the entire class of vehicles like this for our troops, and survivability is only a piece of it. My company just recently lost to the eventual MRAP winner and our piece of the puzzle was a carbon fiber front clip that weighed almost 45 pounds. included lights and full side kevlar. load tested the hood with 3 big guys and only got about 2" deflection, no breaks or cracks.
Current project has the clip on a Jenny Craig diet, taking more weight out. that will translate to less wear on the dirty parts or more payload or more speed. all good things for the troops.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 11/05/2009 23:17 Comments || Top||


Arabia
'Saudi jets pound Yemen rebel camps'
SAUDI jets pounded Shi'ite rebel camps inside Yemen yesterday and ground troops could move across the border against them after they killed a Saudi border guard, an informed Saudi source said.
You mean the Saudis are allowed to defend themselves? Boy howdy Human Rights Watch is going to be upset ...
F-15 and Tornado jets have been bombing the positions of the Zaidi Shi'ite rebels near the border with southern Jizan province since Wednesday, the source said.

"They've been hit hard and it's ongoing," he told AFP. "This is not a hit and run, this is a sustained action" that could involve a ground incursion into Yemen to "clean out" the rebel camps in coordination with Yemen authorities, he said.

The assault was launched after a small group of Zaidi militants entered Saudi territory Tuesday in the rugged Jebel al-Dukhan area and occupied two small frontier villages before being driven out by Saudi troops.

"We took back a small piece of territory and hit their camps around Saada" in northwest Yemen, the source said.

The source also said that one and possibly two more Saudis had been killed in the fighting, and that the Saudi government was likely to issue an official statement on the unrest later today.

Earlier Zaidi officials said that Saudi jets "had used phosphorous bombs" on them, but the allegation could not be independently verified.

The Saudi assault comes nearly three months after Yemen government forces launched a campaign on August 11 against the rebels, also known as Huthis, driving them across the mountainous landscape toward the Saudi border.
Posted by: tipper || 11/05/2009 13:43 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Zaidi officials said that Saudi jets "had used phosphorous bombs" on them

Good.

BTW: Don't hold your breath. These are not western forces who wring their hands when they do the practical thing.
Posted by: gorb || 11/05/2009 14:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Where's Dicky Goldstone?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/05/2009 14:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Can't wait for Iran PressTV to start screaming about all the civilian casualties.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/05/2009 15:30 Comments || Top||

#4  And the fluffy bunnies and cute kitties? Let's have some priority here.
Posted by: Steven || 11/05/2009 16:37 Comments || Top||


Saudi troops line Yemen border after attack
[Al Arabiya Latest] Eleven Saudi schools were evacuated and military troops have been massed on the border with Yemen after gunmen killed a Saudi officer and injured 11others in the border region of Jazan.

The incident took place on Tuesday by armed men who infiltrated into Saudi Arabia from Yemen in the mountainous Jazan region that borders the northern part of Yemen, where Yemeni forces have been fighting Zaidi Shiite rebels for weeks, SPA quoted an unnamed senior security official.

The pro-Western Yemeni government is also fighting al-Qaeda, which is also seeking to destabilize Saudi Arabia, a bastion of Sunni Islam.

"The kingdom ... will do what it takes to preserve the security of the homeland and protect its borders and deter those infiltrators and their likes from any side they are," the agency said.

The gunmen used "various weapons" in their attack, it said without giving further details. Jazan is far from the top oil exporter's key oil facilities.

Yemeni government officials have said Iranian media backs the rebels, often termed Houthis after their clan and religious leaders, and President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said Iranian religious figures provide funding.

Veteran ruler Saleh also faces a separatist movement in the south and Saudi Arabia fears the instability will help al-Qaeda launch more attacks there.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Huthi make a threat, SA does what comes naturally. Guarding the six is not the only area to watch. Iran is up to something more. What it is I have not studied yet but it certainly is regional.
Posted by: newc || 11/05/2009 7:52 Comments || Top||

#2  The problem with keeping a vicious dog is...
Posted by: mojo || 11/05/2009 11:53 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Afghan/Iraqi Vets Today: Invading the Halls of Congress
Afghanistan and Iraq veterans from across the country will be in Washington, D.C. to petition their members of Congress and the White House to fully support mission success in Afghanistan. Our message is simple: Provide our commander in Afghanistan, General Stan McChrystal, and his troops, the manpower, resources, and support they need to defeat America’s enemies.

The Afghanistan mission is tough and complicated, and will require continued American sacrifice for years. But as we learned in Iraq from General David Petraeus, “hard is not hopeless;” and with the right combination of strategy, manpower, and leadership, America can turn the tide in Afghanistan and create the conditions to defeat our enemies, induce Afghan solutions, and bring our warriors home with honor.

Thus far, President Obama has been very strong on Afghanistan — sending additional troops, shifting the strategy, and appointing a new commander. Vets for Freedom remains very hopeful that the president will also make the right decision regarding General McChrystal’s request for additional troops. And when he does, we stand ready to support the president 100 percent.

On Capitol Hill, we have over 75 face-to-face meetings scheduled, focusing our efforts primarily on members of Congress who are skeptical about adding troops to Afghanistan. We plan to make the case for more troops in meetings with Senator John Kerry, Harry Reid, Jim Webb, Mark Pryor, Mark Warner, amongst many others. We are very appreciative they are all taking the time to meet with veterans from their home state.

And while I’m not an Afghanistan veteran, I'll be proud to stand alongside scores of them tomorrow. They are the best, brightest, and bravest our nation has to offer. Among them, to name only a few, will be:

Thomas Cotton — he just returned from Afghanistan, where he directed counterinsurgency operations for a Provincial Reconstruction Team. Before that volunteer assignment, Tom led an infantry platoon in Baghdad, Iraq during the Surge with the 101st Airborne Division. Tom is still in the National Guard.

Vincent Heintz — he also just returned from Afghanistan, where he led an Afghan Police Mentoring Team in Konduz Province. Vince also led an infantry company in Iraq in 2004, and commanded troops on Ground Zero on 9/11. You may have seen his WSJ op-ed last month. Vincent is still in the National Guard.

Daniel Bell — Daniel deployed twice to Afghanistan and twice to Iraq with U.S. Army Special Forces, serving as a special operations medic directly under the command of General McChrystal.

Rose López Keravuori — Rose graduated from West Point, and has served 12 years (6 on active duty) in the Army as a Military Intelligence officer, including two years in Afghanistan and Iraq. Rose is still in the Reserves, and works in counterterrorism.

Who better to inform the opinions of our nation’s leaders? These veterans, and many more just like them, will flood the halls of Congress; armed with first-hand knowledge and the passion to ensure their comrades in Afghanistan are supported.

If you recall, Vets for Freedom did the same thing in 2007 and 2008 in support of the Iraq surge, with great impact. For updates on this trip, you can follow our efforts at: http://twitter.com/VetsForFreedom or on our website at: www.VetsforFreedom.org

Also, Vets for Freedom will be holding a press conference tomorrow morning at 9:15am at 217 Cannon House Office Building with Congressmen Marsha Blackburn (TN-7) and Duncan Hunter (CA-52). The press conference will occur after the first meeting of the Afghanistan Strategic Forum Caucus, which will ensure a forum where members of Congress can maintain a close connection to troops, experts, and policymakers.
Posted by: Sherry || 11/05/2009 00:37 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bless these Soldiers.

Those foolish ideologues in Washington DC better heed to this petition.
Posted by: newc || 11/05/2009 7:50 Comments || Top||

#2  These combat soldiers will be ignored until they enter the halls of power as elected officials. The federal government has become indifferent to petition.

Importantly, for a limited time, by being honored veterans, their pathway to election is made a little easier, but only if they take it.

Fair warning though, their influence on veterans' affairs and the military mission will be limited, because it is only a small part of what the federal government does. So they must be prepared that 98% of what they do will be for other things.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/05/2009 9:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Congresswoman Michelle Bachman is also asking all concerned Americans to show up in DC today to make themselves heard about the health care bill and exhorbitant spending before they vote. She was also warned Pelosi was going to block access but that should only enrage the grassroots more. Twitter party?
Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091 || 11/05/2009 10:43 Comments || Top||

#4  I should add I think we should fully support the troops and respect the commanders on the ground and any budget cutting should begin with axing the health care bill, cap and trade, and other foolishness coming out of DC.
Posted by: Lumpy Elmoluck5091 || 11/05/2009 10:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Respecting senior commanders, their collective decisions and recommendations in support of the mission and troops in the theater SHOULD be SOP! Anything less than that amounts to betrayal and murder!
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 10:53 Comments || Top||

#6  ...as we learned in Iraq from General David Petraeus, “hard is not hopeless;”...

To the liberals controlling Congress anything that is "hard" or requires intelligent thought and consideration is "hopeless".
Posted by: WolfDog || 11/05/2009 11:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Perhaps President Barry will come off the golf course and issue a well worded, heartfelt apology to these vets.

Seriously, it is a shame beyond words how this administration conducts itself.

G-d bless our troops (past and present) wherever they may be.
Posted by: Bertie Cromomp7039 || 11/05/2009 13:30 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistani forces secure fort; U.S. drone kills four
Pakistani soldiers secured a fort captured from militants in the northwest of the country on Thursday and consolidated their positions on peaks around another insurgent base, the military said.

The army launched an offensive on October 17 aimed at rooting out and defeating Pakistani Taliban militants in South Waziristan, a lawless ethnic Pashtun region on the Afghan border.

Separately, a U.S. drone aircraft fired two missiles into North Waziristan, another major al Qaeda and Taliban sanctuary in northwest Pakistan, killing four militants, Pakistani intelligence officials said.

The offensive is closely watched by the United States and other powers embroiled in neighboring Afghanistan, as South Waziristan's rugged landscape of barren mountains and hidden ravines has become a global center of Islamist militancy.

Foreign al Qaeda fighters are believed hiding there along with thousands of Pakistani insurgents. Fighting has intensified in recent days as troops advanced from three directions on three main militant bases -- Sararogha, Makeen and Ladha.

The military said on Thursday afternoon 28 militants had been killed in South Waziristan in the previous 24 hours, taking their death toll to 422 since the offensive began. Five soldiers including an officer were killed and two were wounded, the military said.
Posted by: tipper || 11/05/2009 11:42 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Militants kill two women teachers in Bajaur: officials
[Dawn] Two women school teachers were killed Wednesday when armed militants ambushed their car in Pakistan's troubled tribal region bordering Afghanistan, local officials said.

The women were travelling from the school they taught at in Khar -- the main town in the northwestern tribal district of Bajaur -- when insurgents bearing automatic weapons sprayed the vehicle with bullets.

'Two women teachers were killed and two men were injured in the firing by militants,' administration official Adalat Khan told AFP. Tribal police confirmed the incident.

Insurgents who oppose the education of girls have bombed and destroyed hundreds of northwestern schools in recent years.

Militants have recently stepped up activity in Bajaur, one of Pakistan's seven semi-autonomous tribal districts straddling the Afghan border, which are considered a stronghold of Taliban and Al-Qaida-linked extremists.

Officials warned that the Taliban and their allies were increasing attacks in areas such as Bajaur to divert attention away from South Waziristan, the Taliban bastion where the military is conducting a major ground offensive.

A similar military assault in Bajaur starting in August 2008 ended in February with the army claiming success. But militant violence continues to rock the area.

Hundreds of extremists are believed to have fled into Pakistan's semi-autonomous tribal areas to carve out safe havens after the ouster of Afghanistan's hardline Taliban regime in a US-led invasion in 2001.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  Allan hates a woman who can read.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 11/05/2009 6:16 Comments || Top||


Attack foiled in Hangu; four militants killed
[Dawn] At least four suspected militants were killed as security forces retaliated an attack at the SpinThall check post in the Hangu district near the border of Kurram Agency.

Meanwhile, in Kohat, police say two alleged suicide bombers accidentally blew themselves up while on their way to the PAF Range road, 25 kilometres from Kohat city.

According to police, the suicide bombers were riding a motorcycle and apparently slipped on the bumpy road and a bomber's jacket exploded accidentally.

The bomb disposal squad confirmed that traces of explosive material had been found on the damaged motorcycle along with body parts of the alleged suicide bomber. The men were carrying 50-60 kilograms of explosives on the motorcycle but it could not be ascertained as to what was their exact target.

Police teams recovered the arms, legs and head of one of the bombers.

Meanwhile, a woman was killed and three others injured when a rocket fell at a house in the Thall area.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  Used Motorcycle for sale, must be thoroughly cleaned.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/05/2009 19:31 Comments || Top||


Fazlullah aide held with Rs 81.5m
Security personnel have arrested Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Swat chief Mullah Fazlullah's finance secretary and 24 other Taliban, official sources said on Wednesday. Military sources told Daily Times that the forces raided a house at Koza Bandai in Kabal tehsil during search operations and arrested Bakht Zaman, the TTP Swat finance secretary, and Saifullah, a key Taliban commander. They said the security forces had recovered Rs 81.5 million from the TTP finance secretary. Security personnel also arrested 23 other Taliban from various parts of Swat and discovered two terrorist hideouts in Miadam.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  Brown bagging it, was he?
Posted by: mojo || 11/05/2009 11:52 Comments || Top||


Thirty militants killed in South Waziristan street battles
[Dawn] Troops were Wednesday locked in deadly street battles with Taliban fighters, pushing a ground offensive deeper into militant-held territory, the military said.

A senior military official told AFP the army had 'taken' the strategic town of Sararogha in the third week of fighting, while 30 insurgents were reported killed in the last 24 hours.

Pakistan has vowed to quash Tehrik-i-Taliban in South Waziristan, part of the border area with Afghanistan that Washington calls the most dangerous place in the world because of the abundance of Al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters.

Sararogha shot to infamy within the tribal belt as the operational centre of former Tehrik-i-Taliban warlord Baitullah Mehsud, who was killed in a US drone attack in August.

The military provides the only regular information coming from the frontlines. None of the details can be verified because communication lines are down and journalists and aid workers barred from the area.

Pakistan launched its fierce air and ground offensive into the northwest region on October 17, with some 30,000 troops backed by fighters jets and helicopter gunships laying siege to Tehrik-i-Taliban bolt-holes.

'Today, security forces entered into the important stronghold of terrorists, the town of Ladha. Intense fighting is taking place in (the) streets,' the military said in its daily update.

It said 'security forces have cleared a major part' of Sararogha, but a senior official in northwest Pakistan said the town had been captured.

So far, the military has claimed to have killed more than 390 militants since the operation began, with 45 troops losing their lives.

The long-anticipated assault into South Waziristan came after a spring offensive in and around the northwestern Swat valley, which the government declared a success in July. However, sporadic outbreaks of violence continue.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP


Intense street battles as troops enter Ladha
The Pakistan Army on Wednesday laid siege to Ladha town during the ongoing operation in South Waziristan, on a day that saw fierce street battles with the Taliban.

"Security forces advanced into the terrorists' stronghold, the town of Ladha, amidst heavy clashes and street-to-street fighting," Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Director General Athar Abbas said. He said the forces were engaged in intense fighting with terrorists and had so far killed at least 10 Taliban.

Clearing: The army also cleared major part of Sararogha, where they killed at least 16 Taliban. Seven soldiers were injured in the fighting. They also secured Prato Narai and Point 16242, west of Sararogha.

Recover: Consolidating their position after securing China village on the Razmak-Makeen axis, security forces recovered large caches of arms and ammunition from different compounds and neutralised a number of IEDs. They also killed four Taliban.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TTP

#1  ION BIGNEWSNETWORK > SOMALIA: HISBU ISLAM CLAIMS VICTORY AGZ GOVT. TROOPS AFTER TOWN FIGHT

* SAME > HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES FLEE AFTER MUSLIM MUSLIM REBELS SEEN MASSING IN SOUTHERN PHILIPPINES; + MORO REBELS DEMAND GOVT. DROP PRIEST KIDNAP CLAIMS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/05/2009 2:13 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Senior Iraqi policeman killed by bomb outside his door
[Dawn] A senior Iraqi police officer was killed on Wednesday by a bomb left outside the door of his house at Abu Ghraib, west of Baghdad, a police official in Anbar province said.

Colonel Shalal al-Zubay, deputy head of Abu Ghraib police, was blown up as he left home to go to work, the official said.

Explosions in and around Baghdad on Wednesday also wounded 20 people.

Five people including two soldiers were hurt when a 'sticky' bomb attached to a car blew up near an army checkpoint in the north Baghdad neighbourhood of Adhamiyah.

A blast at Iskan in the west of the capital wounded seven people, and the interior ministry said a bomb targeting a police patrol in the northern district of Qahira injured four people, including two police officers.

At Mahmudiyah, south of Baghdad, a bomb on the main road wounded four civilians.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State of Iraq


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Video: Israel Navy Intercepts Special Delivery of Iranian Weapons en route to Hezbollah
6:21 minutes of proof.

The Israel Navy intercepted the "Francop" cargo ship, which was laden with roughly 500 tons of weapons hidden amongst civilian cargo. The 36 weapons containers were sent from Iran and meant for the Hezbollah terrorist organization in Lebanon.
Posted by: Sherry || 11/05/2009 00:56 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  nice boat you have here... would be a shame if anything were to happen to it..
Posted by: abu do you love || 11/05/2009 1:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Obama, etc. are saying,

"la, la, la, la, I can't hear you"
Posted by: lord garth || 11/05/2009 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  While the publicity value of doing this is one thing, in future they should carefully remove the weapons, then let the ship continue on to its destination. This would create distrust and consternation on the receiving end.

Other things would be to substitute the same kinds of weapons that have functionality problems, or just hide little homing devices on them, that once a week, at irregular intervals, would give off a brief signal.

You remember those Hezbollah weapons dumps in southern Lebanon that spontaneously just blow up?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/05/2009 12:44 Comments || Top||

#4  If we had a CIA that could keep its mouth shut, Moose, we'd remove the weapons crates and substitute them with crates of junk weapons.

One or more of which would blow up when handled.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 14:25 Comments || Top||

#5  These are weapons of peace.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/05/2009 14:51 Comments || Top||

#6  WAFF ]paraph] > DID TURKEY HELP HAZBALLAH/HIZBOLLAH BY ALLOWING MEN, ARMS THROUGH THEIR TERRITORY?

*SAME > ANKARA [Turkey] ANNOUNCES DESIRE FOR STRATEGIC COOPERATION COUNCIL WITH GREECE.

Turkey of late has seemingly been making all-out diplomatic overtures to establish [bilateral]STRATEGIC RELATIONS-TIES iwd IRAN, PAKISTAN, ALGIERS, MALAYSIA, + INDONESIA, etc.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/05/2009 23:11 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Protests flare in Iran's capital as demonstrators, security forces clash
Large stretches of the Iranian capital erupted in chaos and violence today as antigovernment protesters and security forces clashed on the 30th anniversary of the takeover of the U.S. Embassy by radical students.

Amateur videotape also purported to show small, boisterous demonstrations in the Caspian Sea city of Rasht, the southwestern city of Ahvaz and the eastern city of Mashhad.

For the first time in months, there were also credible reports and video footage of a sizable demonstration on the campus of the main university in the northwestern city of Tabriz, the capital of Iran's ethnic Azeri region and historically a hotbed of political activity.

As dusk settled, protesters in Tehran continued to gather in the streets and prepare for what they predicted would be a long night of clashes with security forces stationed at main squares around the capital.

"I was beaten up by a baton so badly that one policeman begged his colleague to have pity on me and stop beating me," said one protester, a 54-year-old mother of three who asked that her name not be published. "But I am not scared. I will keep protesting until the end."

Today's demonstration did not appear to be as large as the huge marches that erupted after the disputed June 12 reelection of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. But the protest, the largest in six weeks, struck at one of the ideological pillars of the Islamic Republic by showing that a sizable chunk of Iranians disagree with hard-liners' anti-American agenda

Though the demonstration stemmed from the contested election, America's tangled 56-year relationship with Iran took center stage.

As Ahmadinejad's allies blasted U.S. foreign policy during an official rally attended by tens of thousands of schoolchildren bused in the for the event and government supporters, a leading reformist cleric and architect of the Islamic Revolution issued a provocative statement describing the storming of the U.S. mission in Tehran as a mistake.

"Considering the negative repercussions and the high sensitivity which was created among the American people and which still exists, it was not the right thing to do," Ayatollah Hossein Montazeri said in a statement posted to his website.

And as thousands of government supporters and schoolchildren draped in Iranian flags chanted, "Death to America," opposition protesters warned the Obama administration -- which is seeking to engage Iran to defuse a confrontation over Tehran's nuclear program -- that now's not the time for a deal.

"Obama, Obama!" the protesters chanted, according to footage posted on the Internet. "Either you're with them, or with us."

Throughout the day, videotape, photographs and witness accounts surfaced of violent confrontations between paramilitary forces controlled by the hard-line Revolutionary Guard and unarmed demonstrators across the capital. Reformist websites reported the arrests of numerous protesters.

Security forces fired tear gas and rubber bullets and attempted to surround demonstrators to prevent them from forming large gatherings. Protesters chanted, "Death to the dictator" and "Russia is the den of espionage," playing on the official description of the former U.S. Embassy compound as a "den of espionage."

Moscow is an ally of the Islamic Republic.

Video footage showed black-clad riot police accompanied by plainclothes Basiji militiamen beating protesters with clubs and storming into apartment buildings where they had sought refuge. One witness said he saw soldiers collapsing from tear gas fired at demonstrators, who tried to ward off the effects of the gas by setting trash fires.

Students at Tehran's restive colleges poured into the streets, reformist news websites reported, in defiance of security forces stationed at campus entrances. One witness spotted crowds of more than 2,000 in several Tehran locations. The crowd cheered as opposition presidential candidate Mehdi Karroubi arrived at 7th of Tir Square to attend the rally.

Traditionally, the anniversary of the embassy takeover is used by the government to whip up anti-American furor, which buses in students at public grammar schools to participate. State television showed thousands of mostly schoolchildren carrying placards and chanting, "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" near the site of the former embassy. The building was turned into a museum in the years after the takeover and subsequent detention of U.S. personnel as hostages severed ties between Tehran and Washington.
Posted by: Fred || 11/05/2009 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Obama could care less if Freedom is betrayed. He regards it as not his problem. He wants to "talk" to the Ayatollahs. He's a lover.

As to the people who only want their freedom? Obama's silence is loud and clear. If he will do it to them, he will do it to you as well.

He's in it for #1. And you dont count. He's a "mouth", he wont fight for American values.

He will abandon the men who fight for this country, and sell them down the river. The American people made a big mistake electing this clown.

We have three more years of this to look forward to...three long years. But we took an Oath to defend the Constitution and play it by the book.
Three long years. What will Afghanistan be like three years from now with no leadership in America? Where would Iraq be now without Petraeus and Bush's steadiness? The Dhimmis wanted to up-tail and run. Remember?
If America gets hit again like 911? What about the Constitution then?

Barry is completely unprepared for the job. Three long years. The American people made a BIG mistake.

But every man in Afghanistan who winds up as guts in a bloody sack will know Barry plays a lot of Golf and wants real bad to MAKE you pay for what he has to sell to you whether. you .want. it. or. not.

Open wide and say yum yum.
Posted by: Angleton9 || 11/05/2009 7:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Problem is, to him the Constitution is a mere inconvenience. So those of us who swore an oath have an obligation to stand up against his ideologue stupidity.

The shame of it all is he is incapable of learning. He will leave the office without learning a damn thing.

Precious Persians, do not look at Obama for anything. He is useless for all of US.
Posted by: newc || 11/05/2009 8:16 Comments || Top||

#3  The shame of it all is he is incapable of learning. He will leave the office without learning a damn thing

The "all knowing" are not to be taught, but rather worshipped.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 8:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Bambi sees himself as a celebrity end of!

ps-He enjoys basketball!
Posted by: Paul2 || 11/05/2009 9:24 Comments || Top||

#5  He's a lover.
You misspelled "Loser"
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/05/2009 21:28 Comments || Top||


12 Dead, Shooter Alive, 31 Wounded Ft. Hood (info added)
Will keep adding info as it comes
4:25 CST From ABC: The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.

The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack.

4:22 CST: From MSNBC: Suspected Fort Hood Gunman Identified as Major Malik Nadal Hasan

From News Presser -- "Shooters were US Soldiers" according to Gen Cone -- base commander

12 Died 31 wounded

DEVELOPING: A mass shooting at Ft. Hood military base in Texas has left at least 7 dead and 12 wounded, MyFoxDFW.com reported. A suspect is reportedly in custody, but Fox News hasn't yet confirmed that is the case.

There were two shooters in the Army base massacre and one suspect is in custody, Fox News confirmed.

The attack apparently happened at the base's Soldier Readiness Center, MyFoxDFW.com said.

Army officials didn't know whether the victims were civilians or military personnel.

The Fort Hood public affairs spokesman said the Army is setting up a special operations center to handle the response. The official base Web site has posted a message that it is on lock down and in an emergency situation. It also urged people to stay indoors.

Nine schools on the base -- seven elementary and two middle -- are included in the lock down.

The men were dressed in Army fatigues, but military officials couldn't confirm that they were Army personnel.
From NBC
KCEN in Waco reported that the second suspect may be holed up in a building on the post. A congressman told MSNBC that a graduation ceremony may have been taking place at the time of the shooting.

According to unconfirmed reports, one of the shooters was being surrounded by police in the 42006 building on Fort Hood. That source told KCEN the shooter has a high-powered rifle.

The base was reportedly on lockdown. The Killeen Independent School District said all Fort Hood schools are on lockdown. Temple ISD is on a "soft" lockdown. Parents will be able to pick their children up at the normal times, though they may experience delays.

FBI agents were reportedly on the way to the post.

Fort Hood is adjacent to Killeen, and 60 miles northeast of Austin. The sprawling complex is home to at least 4,929 active duty officers and 45,414 enlisted. Civilian employees total nearly 9,000.

Army spokesman Lt. Col. Lee M. Packnett said he was unaware if security measures were put in place at other military bases. "At this point I do not know," Packnett said.

President Barack Obama was briefed on the shootings, according to spokesman Robert Gibbs.

Fort Hood has seen other violence in recent years. In September 2008, a 21-year-old 1st Cavalry Division soldier shot his lieutenant to death and then killed himself. Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan of Eagle River, Alaska. shot himself to death after shooting 1st Lt. Robert Bartlett Fletcher, 24, of Jensen Beach, Fla. to death.
Adding more from NBC
Greg Schannep, an aide to U.S. Rep. John Carter, told the Austin American-Statesman that he was on the Army post to attend a graduation service. He said that as he neared the entrance of a building where the service was being held, a soldier with blood on his uniform ran past him and said a man was shooting.

Schannep told the newspaper that the shootings appeared to have occurred in a complex near a theater where the service was scheduled. He was with the injured soldier, who he said appeared to have been struck in the shoulder but did not have life-threatening injuries.

According to unconfirmed reports, one of the shooters was being surrounded by police in the 42006 building on Fort Hood. That source told KCEN the shooter has a high-powered rifle.
Posted by: Sherry || 11/05/2009 10:38 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Amish?
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/05/2009 16:11 Comments || Top||

#2  A serious question for military/NRA RBers - when the media (or others) mentions "high powered rifle", what do they mean? What does it really mean?

I had a BB gun long ago, and pop-in-law recalls Mausers in WWII, so I suspect it is more toward the latter, but just wonder.
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division || 11/05/2009 16:42 Comments || Top||

#3  It certainly doesn't seem as though it was some soldier who went sideways. Two shooters.
Posted by: remoteman || 11/05/2009 16:45 Comments || Top||

#4  3 shooters it appears
Posted by: Marilyn Sheasing8525 || 11/05/2009 16:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Are we looking at "sudden" Jihad Syndrome?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 11/05/2009 16:57 Comments || Top||

#6  I pray to G-D to rest the souls of the lost and comfort their families.

this is tragedy of the worst sort. i do not trust the FBI to give us straight facts on this.
Posted by: abu do you love || 11/05/2009 16:57 Comments || Top||

#7  Fox is reporting 12 dead and 31 injured. 3 suspects - one killed by local police, 2 in custody.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 17:15 Comments || Top||

#8  The shooter was killed and two other suspects were in custody.
Posted by: Sherry || 11/05/2009 17:16 Comments || Top||

#9  Sean Hannity has just reported the main shooter is Major Malik Hassan... LOOK OUT!
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2009 17:22 Comments || Top||

#10  Sleeper?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/05/2009 17:24 Comments || Top||

#11  Waco news is also reporting Malique Hassan is the primary shooters; two others in custody.

Posted by: JohnQC || 11/05/2009 17:25 Comments || Top||

#12  From ABC: The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.

The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack
Posted by: Sherry || 11/05/2009 17:26 Comments || Top||

#13  Yup, I understand Malik is `meeting his virgins`...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2009 17:27 Comments || Top||

#14  A serious question for military/NRA RB'ers - when the media (or others) mentions "high powered rifle", what do they mean? What does it really mean?

It means a standard military rifle, anything from a M1 to a M-16 there's all kinds of different rifles on a Military base, as for the "High Powered" that's a reporter showing heir ignorance, There are NO Low-powered Military rifles , perhaps a .22 for training but 99% would be what we RB'ers would call a ordinary standard rifle, meaning whatever you'd hunt deer with, .223,762x35 30-06 (Don't emember he military designation 7.62x54 or something like that.)
Figure that to a reporter if it can kill it's "HIGH POWERED".
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/05/2009 17:34 Comments || Top||

#15  Fox news now reporting Hassan is from Virginia and is a recent convert to Islam.

Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 17:39 Comments || Top||

#16  I'm shocked! A muslim?

Question. In WWII did the US Army accept Germans and Japanese citizens as soldiers?

Why then do we 1. Accept members of a group that have declared war on the US and 2. Even allow these folks in the country?

Furthermore, If I tell the Army I'm gay and I want to serve they turn me down. I suspect we should start thinking about muzzies the same way.

My guess is with barack HUSSEIN obama we won't be seeing that though.

Just amazing to me.
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/05/2009 17:44 Comments || Top||

#17  Oh I'm not actually gay - not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/05/2009 17:45 Comments || Top||

#18  Thanks Redneck Jim. Interesting now that the news is reporting that handguns were used - I expect those count as "high powered rifles" to most of the media unfamiliar with the rudiments.
Posted by: Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division || 11/05/2009 17:47 Comments || Top||

#19  Fox just said 3 shooters.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/05/2009 17:48 Comments || Top||

#20  I would guess it's time for the CAIR folks to start defending the imam who did the converting and pointing out the isolated incident aspect.
Posted by: Muggsy Glink || 11/05/2009 17:49 Comments || Top||

#21  Proposed new UCMJ Regulation: Islam is incompatible with military service. Being a Muslim or converting to Islam shall be afforded the same assumptions and treatment as a declaration of conscientious objection.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/05/2009 17:50 Comments || Top||

#22  Disgusting listening to the radio (MSNBC's Chris Matthews) dance around every possible explanation except islam. Took him long enough even to identify one of the shooters (Hasan) and sounded like some producer had his balls in a vice to force him to identify the murderer as "Arabic sounding" and then subsequently referred to the islamic mass murderer only as "Major". Spit.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 17:50 Comments || Top||

#23  sleeper? ucmj to ban muslims? it's time like these when we see the people who will jump to the conclusions in order to support their instincts to hate those who are different. get a life, keep your comments to yourself and pray for the victims rather than expose your prejudice.
Posted by: Hupereck Grundy2737 || 11/05/2009 17:56 Comments || Top||

#24  Ed, Shep Smith on FoxNews is just as bad, IMO. He's refusing to say the name until confirmed by Pentagon sources, but I would bet the farm he'd have no problem if he thought the name was "John Doe" or "Joe Smith". Shep needs to find employment at MSNBC or CNN. They're more 'his kind' over there.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 17:57 Comments || Top||

#25 
On Fox News Shep is refusing to name the shooter. I hate that guy pu$$y, he doesn't belong on Fox News. Fire him and give his time slot to Glenn Beck
Posted by: Parabellum || 11/05/2009 17:58 Comments || Top||

#26  UPDATE: Witness described it as a methodical execution with 2 handguns. It was PREPLANNED. He hit soldiers about to DEPLOY.

A mohammedean terrorist attack.

May god be with our soldiers and their families.
Posted by: A_Rovian_Disciple || 11/05/2009 18:09 Comments || Top||

#27  Hupereck Grundy2737: "Different"? How infidelishly stupid of you to play the Rodney King card in the face of 12 dead and 31 injured by a recent convert to islam.
Posted by: Muggsy Glink || 11/05/2009 18:14 Comments || Top||

#28  Apparantly according to our well informed media ""high powered rifle" means two handguns. Go figure.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/05/2009 18:15 Comments || Top||

#29  I guess its high time to ban guns on Military bases...

/SARC

How about we ban Islamics instead?

May God be with the soldier's families and with the wounded soldiers.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2009 18:17 Comments || Top||

#30  Bambi: "We're going to stay on this".

Dear God in heaven, we have an IDIOT for president!
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 18:18 Comments || Top||

#31  Our well informed media have the resources to fact check unlike bloggers
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/05/2009 18:19 Comments || Top||

#32  Hasan is a doctor. Some kind of mental health physician. I googled him.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 18:20 Comments || Top||

#33  Hey - give him a break it takes time to get the makeup on, cameras positioned just right to show how great he is, and have his mirror polished. Not to mention the teleprompter.....

And I hear military bases are 'no gun zones' aready (according to a different thread...). Who knew...

Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/05/2009 18:21 Comments || Top||

#34  Make that 'was' a doctor. As someone pointed out earlier, he's with his 72 raisins now.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 18:21 Comments || Top||

#35  Wouldn't that explain the rank of Major?
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/05/2009 18:21 Comments || Top||

#36  In WWII did the US Army accept Germans and Japanese citizens as soldiers?

Yes. My mother's first husband got his parents and siblings out of Germany to Australia. He then joined the US Navy as a medic in order to get them to the States and put himself in line for US citizenship... and fought all the way up the Pacific as a medic, despite being an avowed pacifist. On the other hand, he was a German Jew, which may have weighed on his acceptance -- I have absolutely no idea.

Back on topic: lotp has spoken from personal experience of Muslim officers and enlisted who are loyal to America regardless of its status as a kafir nation. There are plenty of American Muslims, who do not hold with that old-country fanatic kufr-hatred.

Oddly enough, the NPR Pentagon reporter had absolutely no problem saying the murderer's name. Some of the NPR reporters are very good indeed, as are some at the New York Times. Hopefully the good ones will find their feet when the propagandists get swept away.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/05/2009 18:23 Comments || Top||

#37  Leadership failure at the very top. Have we learned nothing from the incidents involving US Army Chaplain Captain and GITMO activist James Yee or grenade murderer Sgt. Asan Akbar?

We are STILL in denial with regard to Islam.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 18:32 Comments || Top||

#38  Japanese-Americans served with distinction in the famous 442 Infantry Regiment, in Europe. They were an elite fighting unit.
Posted by: A_Rovian_Disciple || 11/05/2009 18:32 Comments || Top||

#39  #23 sleeper? ucmj to ban muslims? it's time like these when we see the people who will jump to the conclusions in order to support their instincts to hate those who are different. get a life, keep your comments to yourself and pray for the victims rather than expose your prejudice.
Posted by Hupereck Grundy2737


Hey there, Hupereck, are you just an idiot or a WH troll? Maybe volunteering to adopt a few of the "Religion of Peace" participants? By all means, be my guest. I really, really would not like to be killed by one of these a$$holes, but encourage you to "take one for the team"....maroon......
Posted by: Uncle Phester || 11/05/2009 18:34 Comments || Top||

#40  Fox news now reporting Hassan is from Virginia and is a recent convert to Islam.

Definitely Arab by his pic on ABC News. Said attended Damascus and maybe Jordan University.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 18:37 Comments || Top||

#41  Diversity, multiculturalism, tollerance, educational scholarships for foreigners, direct military commissioning, Sikh turbans for all.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 18:42 Comments || Top||

#42  The two suspects arrested shortly after the shooting have been released, according to the office of U.S. Rep. John Carter, R-Round Rock, whose district includes Fort Hood.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 18:43 Comments || Top||

#43  Fox is reporting that he was a shrink.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/05/2009 18:44 Comments || Top||

#44  Definitely Arab by his pic on ABC News. Said attended Damascus and maybe Jordan University.

Yeah, it was Kay Bailey Hutchison who was speculating earlier about him being from Virginia and being a recent convert. I still haven't forgiven her for her role in the illegal 'amnesty' vote a few years ago, so I ignore her whenever possible.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 18:48 Comments || Top||

#45  ...foreign citizens...

I didn't know foreign citizens of countrie we were at war with were in the military in WWII. I knew there were people of Japanese and German ancestry but not citizens in the military. Seems dangerous.
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/05/2009 18:50 Comments || Top||

#46  Question. In WWII did the US Army accept Germans and Japanese citizens as soldiers?

You never read "Born American, but in the wrong place". I'll bet Malik's ancestors were born in America going back at least 8 generations. But I don't think he was an American. It's a state of mind. A core of firmly held beliefs that make an American, not a birthplace or an accent.

40% of Americans are German, if you think country of origin is important. In WWII Germans were allowed to fight. Some had names like Eisenhower, Eichleburger, and Nimitz, to name a few. We even let Baron von Steuben fight in the War of Independence.

The 442 RCT is the most highly decorated military unit in the history of the United States Armed Forces, including 21 Medal of Honor recipients, earning the nickname “The Purple Heart Battalion”.

Yeah, Americans from Germany, Italy and Japan fought the fascist powers in WWII.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/05/2009 18:53 Comments || Top||

#47  Just my 2c, but a lot of this shit seems to be related to "recent converts".
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 11/05/2009 18:58 Comments || Top||

#48  Weapons availability are governed by battalion SOP.

My understanding of US Army regulations, all personal weapons and ammunition are kept by the company or battalion supply sergeant, don't really remember, and are immediately available on request.

So, it's not completely true US Army posts are weapons free. but they are tightly controlled.

It has always been this way for soldiers, enlisted ( I suspect ) officers, billeted at the post.
Posted by: badanov || 11/05/2009 19:02 Comments || Top||

#49  Per a source to Fox: the shooter got a lousy efficiency report while at Walter-Reed, followed shortly by his assignment to Hood and selection for deployment.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2009 19:05 Comments || Top||

#50  On the other hand, there weren't a lot of Nazi party members in the U. S. Military.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/05/2009 19:14 Comments || Top||

#51  Bad OER.... and still gets promoted to Major? I know the promotion stats for MAJ and LTC are in the wildly unbelieveable 90% and above range, but I just may be writing to my congressman and asking for an investigation into the Medical Promotion Board that pushed THAT one on through.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 19:15 Comments || Top||

#52  There are plenty of American Muslims, who do not hold with that old-country fanatic kufr-hatred.

And as we've seen today, it only takes one that does.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 19:18 Comments || Top||

#53  Regarding German and Japanese US Troops,
the whole idea was the People could NOT serve against their home nation, Germans in the Pacific, and Japanese in Europe for example, no Germans in Europe and no Japanese in he Pacific theaters..
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 11/05/2009 19:24 Comments || Top||

#54  I wonder how many "MAJ Nadal's" the USN has aboard our nuclear subs or the USAF has at Cheyenne Mountain or in our Nuclear Capable Squadrons? Rules? Restrictions? Prohibitions?

Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 19:25 Comments || Top||

#55  Sounds like we should start looking at those prohibitions.
Posted by: Hellfish || 11/05/2009 19:28 Comments || Top||

#56  I wonder how many "MAJ Nadal's" the USN has aboard our nuclear subs or the USAF has at Cheyenne Mountain or in our Nuclear Capable Squadrons? Rules? Restrictions? Prohibitions?

Dude, get a grip.

It takes a lot more than a single screw-up to launch nukes...
Posted by: badanov || 11/05/2009 19:28 Comments || Top||

#57  Don't "Dude" me you twit. It only took one to kill 11 and wound dozens. How much of a "grip" do you want.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 19:30 Comments || Top||

#58  The 442nd were composed of second and third generation sons who were born here. Nor did they profess loyalty to the Emperor.

And AFAICR, Nazis weren't, and still aren't, allowed in the US Military.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 19:32 Comments || Top||

#59  Redneck Jim

That's not correct. There WERE quite a few German born US troops fighting all over Europe in 1944 and 1945.

I happen to know a few of them.
Posted by: European Conservative || 11/05/2009 19:36 Comments || Top||

#60  My point is that it is silly to get worked up about nukes which have so many safeties and interlocks it is literally impossible for a single individual or even a small group to deploy one in anger.

And Beosoeker: That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me on rantburg all day.
Posted by: badanov || 11/05/2009 19:37 Comments || Top||

#61  I was gonna puke if this guy's cousin said he "is a good American" one more time. I don't care if he was born here, and I don't care if he joined the military....if you shoot 40 some fellow soldiers for no damn reason, you are not a good American.

BTW, it was all those nasty people picking on him about how Arabs were yucky, too. I guess he shoulda seen a shrink to help him deal with that. Delicate flower and all that.
Posted by: Cornsilk Blondie || 11/05/2009 19:38 Comments || Top||

#62  Fox's Shep got Hasan's cousin on the phone. The cousin said Hasan was born here. He went to school here. Graduated from Virginia Tech. The cousin said Hasan wanted out of the military. He didn't even like to go to the shooting range. The cousin said Hasan has been a muslim all his life.

He was a very proficient shooter for someone who didn't even like to go to the shooting range.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/05/2009 19:41 Comments || Top||

#63  The cousin said Hasan wanted out of the military.

The cousin also said this change in attitude occurred shortly after 9/11/01.
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 19:44 Comments || Top||

#64  Apparently the major was about to be posted to Iraq. Instapundit has some good links to a couple of sites that are closely following the story; he posted at 3:49 pm and at 6:49 pm, so scroll down to get the earlier round-up.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/05/2009 19:45 Comments || Top||

#65  well, I'm glad he didn't live to have to suffer the PTSD for his evil act. Burn in hell F*ck
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2009 19:46 Comments || Top||

#66  Just heard on Fox the Congressman John Carter says that another suspect was taken into custody, AFTER the other two suspects were released.

This is starting to seem like a recruited "Agent" to me. Scary stuff.
Posted by: Charles || 11/05/2009 19:50 Comments || Top||

#67  Again, we've simply GOT to get a handle on this NOW and identify and discharge these worthless pieces of kak. This is NOT the first of these murderous incidents involving US soldiers.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 19:54 Comments || Top||

#68  The military briefing has been on hold for a long time. There have been people that have said there were both pistol and rifle shots from different locations. There are often many rumors in something like this. Firearms are well-controlled on a military base. How did this guy get the handguns on base? How would he kill 11 and wound 31? Not so easy to hit someone with a handgun while they are moving You'd think he would have been taken out sooner. Were these people grouped up: Other reports said Hasan had targeted certain people.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/05/2009 19:56 Comments || Top||

#69  If you've got a pistol in both hands with 14 round capacities, in a crowded room, and catch your targets at close range totally by surprise..... anything is possible. Thank God there were not more killed.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 19:59 Comments || Top||

#70  McCaul says suspect had special training in shooting, parents hailed from Jordan
US. Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Austin, who has been briefed on the shootings at Fort Hood, said one suspect, Nadal Malik Hasan, was a physician who was born in Virginia to parents who hailed from Jordan.

Hasan, McCaul said, “took a lot of advanced training in shooting.” He said he’s not sure why.

McCaul said he also has been told that Hasan had undergone rehabilitative alcohol counseling.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 20:00 Comments || Top||

#71  It is so typically Islamic to kill others in this cowardly way. The bastard methodically executes those he has 'issues' with -- unarmed souls with little chance of defending themselves in a meaningful way. Had he not been killed, the POS most likely would have taken the coward's way out and killed himself. SPIT!
Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 20:01 Comments || Top||

#72  “It’s clear this was a coordinated attack,” McCaul said
Sounds like Rep. McCaul believes there is more than one shooter.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 20:03 Comments || Top||

#73  Hasan, McCaul said, "took a lot of advanced training in shooting." He said he's not sure why

Wonder if he was also pursuing a private pilots license but cutting classes dealing with landings?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 20:04 Comments || Top||

#74  Were these people grouped up: Other reports said Hasan had targeted certain people.

News reports said it was some kind of graduation ceremony for troops who had completed college degrees while deployed. Doubt Hasan knew any of them.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 20:05 Comments || Top||

#75  A shooting suspect at Fort Hood has been identified as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan. He had previously been reported as Malik Nadal Hasan.
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 20:09 Comments || Top||

#76  Virginia Board of Medicine: Nidal Malik Hasan, MD
Posted by: ed || 11/05/2009 20:13 Comments || Top||

#77  The MSM is so conflicted about this story. First, they are so PC about Muslims. Second, they never saw a firearm they liked. They are having trouble dancing around this story.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/05/2009 20:15 Comments || Top||

#78  He could have caught dozens shopping at the PX. Hasan knew these brave soldiers had just returned from service in Theater. That was his message. Now, lets find out who he was working for or if it was simply an isolated act of standard Muslim hatred.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/05/2009 20:17 Comments || Top||

#79  My point is that it is silly to get worked up about nukes which have so many safeties and interlocks it is literally impossible for a single individual or even a small group to deploy one in anger.

Really? Tell that to these people:

link

Posted by: Woozle Uneter9007 || 11/05/2009 20:19 Comments || Top||

#80  Per the Virginia Board of Medicine link (thanks Ed) Dr. Hasan is not board certified in psychiatry, or in anything. His psychiatry practice comes from his interest in the field.

So, Uniformed Schools as a med school (good), military residency (good), but not board certified (hmmm). Poor fitness report (not good), in Texas because he was pushed out of Walter Reed (guessing but a good guess).

Strikes me as a struggling MD. IMO, of course.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 20:42 Comments || Top||

#81  Really? Tell that to these people:

I totally agree. The US Navy must immediately put into place plans to prevent peace protesters from launching nukes.

Thanks for proving my point for me.
Posted by: badanov || 11/05/2009 20:43 Comments || Top||

#82  According to ABC News, Dr. Hasan completed a residency in psychiatry and then was a fellow at the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress (website down right now). Don't know whether that was a certification program or not.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 20:46 Comments || Top||

#83  So -- how long should it be before our CIC shows up at Ft. Hood?
Posted by: Sherry || 11/05/2009 20:48 Comments || Top||

#84  And now I get into the CSTS website. They're part of the Uniformed School and serve as an academic unit dedicated to treatment and research in traumatic stress disorders with an emphasis on military personnel. Started up in 1987; all sorts of programs.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 20:49 Comments || Top||

#85  Per ABC News, Hasan was shot by a civilian uniformed police officer. One officer (the one who shot him or a different one) was among the people killed. ABC says clearly that he had accomplices.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 20:51 Comments || Top||

#86  Here's the link to Hasan's profile (very brief) at CSTS.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 20:52 Comments || Top||

#87  From the This Ain't Hell blog, here is Major Hasan's officer record brief.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 20:55 Comments || Top||

#88  From the brief, his military record:

1 year as an intern (standard)
3 years as a psychiatry resident (standard)
2 years as a psychiatry fellow, ending 7/1/09 (standard)

Then on 7/16 he's assigned as a psychiatrist to Ft. Hood.

Not sure why he's not board certified; if he finished his residency in 2007 he would have taken their exam in either '07 or '08. Per the American Board of Psychiatry, he would have to pass both the written and oral exam.

Per the ABP listing of new diplomates for 2008 and 2009 (several PDF files), Dr. Hasan is not listed, which means he did not pass the board exam in either of those years. He might have done so in 2007, and the initial diplomate lists for that year are not available on the website.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 21:02 Comments || Top||

#89  As to his promotion to Major, it is my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) that a physician with advanced training (e.g., fellowship) will be slotted as a Major (Lt. Commander in the Navy); whereas a physicians with standard residency training only gets slotted as a Captain (Lt. in the Navy).
Posted by: Steve White || 11/05/2009 21:07 Comments || Top||

#90  To start with, but there certainly are MDs in uniform with higher rank.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2009 21:12 Comments || Top||

#91  God bless the warriors and their families who gave their lives and injuries for this evil POS. Fox carried the news just now that the POS is NOT DEAD.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/05/2009 21:15 Comments || Top||

#92  He's alive -----
Posted by: Sherry || 11/05/2009 21:17 Comments || Top||

#93  whoa
Posted by: IG-88 || 11/05/2009 21:25 Comments || Top||

#94  Yup, gonna be interesting ....
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2009 21:33 Comments || Top||

#95  He's alive -----
Shoot him, like they did this bastard.
Posted by: tipper || 11/05/2009 21:35 Comments || Top||

#96  this story is going to get burried and fast. especially if he had an accomplice.

will spin it as "poor soldiers break under the strain of constant deployment' and use it as the excuse to grab defeat and flee Iraq adn A-stan.

0bama's handling makes me sick
Posted by: abu do you love || 11/05/2009 21:35 Comments || Top||

#97  Woozle Uneter9007, those five cut through the external barrier fence and were caught within minutes. Cuffed and forced to lay on the cold, cold ground for four and half hours. They didn't get close to the weapons or launch facilities.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 11/05/2009 21:37 Comments || Top||

#98  Per the leaked officer record brief and also comments by his cousin, Hasan never deployed.
Posted by: lotp || 11/05/2009 21:38 Comments || Top||

#99  If he's alive....

Castrate him with a sledgehammer, flay him alive by grinding his skin off with dull rocks and then boil him alive in pig shit with a koran nailed to his head with a pig bone.

I reserve my compassion for humans, such as the victims of rabid animals like this one. No mercy for traitors.


I'm really sorry, but I'm TIRED of seeing shit like this. This sort of thing is exactly why I carry a gun and avoid places when I can where they make me disarm. I have the bad feeling that these sorts of incidents are going to become more and more common, especially as the demonrats continue to gut our freedoms.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 11/05/2009 21:41 Comments || Top||

#100  He's alive -----
NO!



IT'S ALIVE


You have to admit the resemblence.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/05/2009 22:41 Comments || Top||

#101  How many Christians in the Army of Islam? None. Time to get the picture.
Posted by: rhodesiafever || 11/05/2009 22:43 Comments || Top||

#102  How many Christians in the Army of Islam? None. Time to get the picture.
What! they don't have a "don't ask, don't" tell about religion their armies?
Posted by: tipper || 11/05/2009 22:54 Comments || Top||

#103  How many Christians in the Army of Islam?

There used to be the Janissaries... Ottoman empire, I think. Of course, they were not volunteers.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/05/2009 23:43 Comments || Top||



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