Moderate Taliban can be given seats in the Afghan government, British Foreign Secretary David Miliband said on Friday. Miliband said some members of the broad coalition of Taliban, tribal groups and hired fighters could be drawn into the Afghan political process, the Daily Telegraph reports. He also warned that "recent sacrifices will not be the last" and admitted that military force alone would not be enough to solve Afghan problems. "The problems that exist in Afghanistan are not susceptible to a military solution," he said.
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Mild cases of cancer can accompany your fitness routine...
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The United Nations is investigating the use of its vehicles by suicide bombers who killed 17 African Union peacekeepers at their main base in Somalia, a senior official said on Saturday.
President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed's government said on Friday Islamist rebels had seized more U.N. vehicles in readiness for suicide attacks.
"There are very large numbers of U.N. vehicles in Somalia that have been used for a variety of projects," Mark Bowden, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for Somalia told Reuters.
Bowden said the U.N. had been given the chassis number of one of the vehicles used in the attack. "We are trying to trace whether it's a U.N. vehicle," he said.
Bowden said the attack on the peacekeepers' base next to Mogadishu airport on Thursday would not weaken the U.N.'s resolve to deliver aid to half the Somali population but it could hamper operations on the ground. "We have to take greater precautions around Mogadishu, clearly the airport is more at risk and that will affect our ability to move staff and humanitarian goods," he said.
Insurgents overran U.N. compounds in Jowhar and Baidoa in May and July, seizing aid supplies and vehicles. This has given rise to speculation that the vehicles used in the suicide attacks were captured then.
Bowden said the vehicles could have come from elsewhere. "Depending on the marking, they could have been vehicles that have been brought in from the Eritrean peacekeeping operation or they are vehicles that have been used on projects over the years," he said.
The al Shabaab rebel group, which Washington says is al Qaeda's proxy in Somalia, controls much of the south and parts of the capital Mogadishu. Together with Hizbul Islam, the group has been fighting government troops and African Union peacekeepers to impose its own strict version of sharia law throughout Somalia.
Al Shabaab ordered traders at the country's biggest market, Bakara, to join their fight or vacate their stalls, businessmen said. The group also told them to contribute financially and in kind to their cause.
A day after a brazen suicide attack in the African Union peacekeeper base in Mogadishu, Somali rebel Islamic group al-Shabab threatens neighboring Djibouti that a similar fate awaits its troops should they be sent to Somalia. The attack Thursday killed 21.
The spokesman for the radical Islamist militant group al-Shabab, Sheikh Ali Mohamud Rage, warned the government of Djibouti against sending any forces to Somalia as part of the African Union peacekeeping mission in Somalia, known as AMISOM.
He says that their troops should expect the same reception given to the Ugandan and Burundian soldiers killed Thursday if they too enter the country. Rage asserts that his group is already angered by the access to Djibouti's airports and seaports given to foreign governments.
Earlier this month the Djibouti ambassador to the U.S. told VOA's Somali service that it would be sending troops to Somalia to serve in AMISOM, though the ambassador declined to say how many or when.
The AMISOM spokesman in Nairobi has confirmed to VOA that the suicide bombings Thursday successfully attacked a senior meeting between AMISOM's military leadership and officials of the Western-backed transitional federal government.
Seventeen peacekeepers were killed as well as four Somali civilians, who were inside the military base for the meeting. The spokesman for the prime minister of Somalia told reporters Friday that the high-level government officials were killed and wounded in the attack.
Among the dead in the blasts was deputy commander of the AMISOM forces and the top Burundian officer in Somalia, General Juvenal Niyoyunguruza. The head general, a Ugandan, was wounded.
Subsequent mortar attacks in the capital city later Wednesday reportedly killed at least 19 civilians.
The two vehicles used by the suicide attackers carried the United Nations logo on their sides. The Somali government claims that the vehicles were likely two of eight stolen U.N. cars believed to have fallen in the hands of the Islamic rebels.
AMISOM says that the two vehicles were allowed in to the compound because they were marked U.N. cars. Once inside, one of the cars flew to the nearby petrol station and blew up, and the other one exploded inside the base near the Mogadishu airport.
The United Nations was not part of the high level meeting.
The successful execution of such a boldly planned strike is a clear blow to the government led by President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, which has lost significant ground to the Islamic opposition fighters. It is unclear whether al-Shabab specifically planned the attack with full knowledge of the meeting taking place.
Many on the government side used to fight side-by-side with current rebel fighters as part of the Islamic insurgency against Ethiopia's 2006 invasion, and weaponry is believed to pass easily through the government army's hands to the opposition fighters.
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[Iran Press TV Latest] The UN condemns a twin suicide bombing in war-torn Somalia while the African Union's (AU) special representative to Somalia calls for more international support in the country.
President of the 64th session of the United Nations General Assembly Ali Treki, a Libyan, who took over the post on Tuesday, said a brutal attack on Thursday, that killed 21 people, including 17 Burundian and Ugandan forces, was 'unacceptable' from terrorist groups operating in Somalia.
He said the UN "will recognize the (Somalia's) legitimate government and will continue supporting them," adding that he hoped the attack would not make Africans weak in front of aggression.
Meanwhile, AU's special representative to Somalia, Nicolas Bwakira addressing a press conference in Nairobi on Friday, September 18, called for more support by the international community to the pan-African bloc's embattled peace force in war-ravaged Somalia.
Only Burundi and Uganda currently contribute to the AU peacekeeping force in Somalia.
The UN official also said that al-Shabaab, who claimed the attacks, used two cars with UN logos to hit the African Union's main base in Mogadishu on Thursday (September 17). He said they showed their ability by striking at the heart of the peacekeeping mission.
The insurgents announced that they launched the attack to avenge the killing on Monday (September 14) of one of the continent's most wanted al-Qaeda suspects in a helicopter raid by US commandos.
Both nations, Burundi and Uganda, say they want AMISOM's (African Union peacekeeping mission in Somalia) mandate toughened. The force was supposed to be 8,000-strong, but only has about 5,000 troops only from Uganda and Burundi.
After Thursday's attack, Nigeria and Djibouti have agreed in principle to send soldiers to reinforce AMISOM.
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"unacceptable"? Then what are they going to do about it? Hold a meeting at a 5 star resort in Malaysia?
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Start napalming al-Shabaab and see how fact they come to the "negotiating" table. If there's no possibility of serious retaliation, there's no incentive to change behavior. Two months of blowing up huge chunks of their fighting forces and burning others and their equipment to ash will change "hearts and minds" faster than all the jaw-jaw the UN could put out in 1000 years.
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[Asharq al-Aswat] Somalia's al Shabaab insurgents have six more stolen United Nations vehicles primed as suicide bombs, the government said on Friday. President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed's administration says it will not be bowed by twin suicide car bombs that hit the African Union's (AU) main base in Mogadishu on Thursday, killing 17 AU peacekeepers, including the AMISOM force's deputy commander. But the audacious attack by two U.N.-marked cars on the heart of the peacekeeping mission raises serious questions about the credibility of the deeply divided government, which controls little more than a few districts of the capital.
The state minister for defence, Sheikh Yusuf Mohamed Siad, a former warlord also known as "Inda'ade" or "white eyes", said the insurgents had seized more U.N. vehicles in recent months.
"We were all aware of their suicidal preparations but we never thought they would penetrate the AMISOM compound," he said. "We knew they were masterminding eight cars ... they are left with six more cars. That is cowardice."
Inda'ade said the bombings would not stop the government launching fresh attacks against al Shabaab, which Washington says is al Qaeda's proxy in the failed Horn of Africa state.
"People will see what we'll do to them. They are not Muslims ... We know each other. Let's wait and see what happens next."
Al Shabaab gunmen, including foreign fighters, have attacked and looted U.N. compounds in Somalia in recent months.
Thursday's attack was the worst on the 5,000-strong AU force of troops from Uganda and Burundi. The Ugandan force commander was also wounded in the explosions.
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LONDON — Venezuela has been serving as an intermediary providing arms to Iran since 2006, according to intelligence assessments.
Western intelligence agencies have concluded that Venezuela was helping Iran acquire material and components for strategic and conventional weapons programs. They said Caracas has imported a range of weapons that were later delivered to Iran.
"Today, we must see every Venezuelan arms deal as linked to Iran," a Western intelligence source said.
Iran was also said to be establishing weapons factories in remote areas of Venezuela for the production of advanced and strategic systems.
"The mysterious manufacturing plants, controlled by Iran, deep in the interior of Venezuela, give even greater concern," Robert Morgenthau, a U.S. district attorney who has been investigating the Iranian-Venezuelan connection, said. Wonder if Morgenthau will get fired by the Big O for exposing O's buddy Chavez' goings on.
On Sept. 13, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Russia has opened a $2.2 billion line of credit for Caracas. Chavez said Venezuela would purchase air defense systems, main battle tanks and other weapons. Which they will eventually have to pay for, or not, depending on if Venezuela utilizes the Nasser Model of Repayment.
"The Russian government approved financing for $2.2 billion," Chavez said. "For what? For weapons, and we must thank them. We've decided to install a powerful anti-air defense system." To protect against which enemy, pray tell?
The intelligence agencies were said to have assessed that Iran began using Venezuela as a front for the procurement of weapons since at least 2006. Intelligence sources have also warned that part of the latest Venezuelan weapons order from Russia would be diverted to Iran. Moscow, under pressure to cancel weapon deals with Teheran, has agreed to sell nearly 100 advanced T-90 MBTs to Caracas.
"It is likely that many of these tanks or technology would be relayed to Iran and then appear as indigenous weapons produced by Teheran," the intelligence source said.
From 2005 and 2007 Russia signed 12 defense contracts with Venezuela said to have been worth about $4.5 billion. The contracts provided Venezuela with fighter-jets, attack helicopters and light weapons.
At the same time, Iran and Venezuela have signed a series of cooperation agreements, including those in the areas of defense, energy, finance and joint technology development. In April 2008, Venezuela and Iran signed a memorandum of understanding that stipulated full military support and cooperation.
Since at least 2006, Iranian military advisers have been embedded with Venezuelan Army. Two years later, Turkey detained an Iranian ship bound for Venezuela that contained laboratory equipment capable of producing explosives.
"We have concerns in general about Venezuela's stated desire to increase its arms buildup, which we think poses a serious challenge to stability in the Western Hemisphere," State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said on Sept. 14. "We also want them to put in place very clear procedures and safeguards that these arms are not diverted to any irregular or illegal organizations in the region." Nice little softball statement there, Ian. Typical State Dept lingo.
Iran source: Obama offered to sell aircraft, spare parts to Iran
NICOSIA — Iranian sources said President Barack Obama has proposed the sale of up to $2.5 billion worth of U.S. aircraft and spare parts to Iran. The sources said the proposed sale would rescue Iran's civilian aerospace industry and ensure passenger safety. Jeeze Louise!!!! Who is the enemy here? The Big O or Iran? Is the Big O a sucker or one actively working against US interests?
"Obama's messages for delivering these airplanes to Iran were sent after the election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as Iran's president [in June 2009]," an Iranian source said.
The source, deemed informed, told the semi-official Iranian news agency Fars that Obama has offered to sell 20 passenger jets and spare parts to Iran. The aircraft would be sold by the U.S. firm Boeing, which sold aircraft and infrastructure to Iran in the 1970s.
"The minimum price of these airplanes stands at $75 million and their maximum price is $120 million and their number is estimated at 20," the source said.
Fars quoted the source as saying that several of the Boeing passenger jets have been delivered to Iran. The source said the shipments arrived in Venezuela, which relayed the aircraft to Teheran. Venezuela has been Iran's leading ally.
"The money needed for purchasing the planes was supplied from Iran's blocked assets in the United States," the source said.
Fars said the aircraft were manufactured in 2009. The agency did not say how many aircraft arrived in Iran.
This marked the first Iranian report of U.S. aircraft deliveries to Teheran. The Obama administration has not confirmed this, although U.S. officials acknowledged that aircraft sales were envisioned as part of a reconciliation effort with Iran. One way reconciliation. One side buys hope and change. The other side gets tangible assets with no strings attached.
On Sept. 11, the administration said it would accept an Iranian offer to discuss security issues, including Teheran's nuclear program. The Iranian offer did not include discussions of the U.S. demand for an end to Teheran's uranium enrichment program.
"There's language in the letter that simply says the government of Iran is willing to enter into dialogue," State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said. "We are going to test that proposition, okay? And if Iran is willing to enter into serious negotiations, then they will find a willing participant in the United States and the other [partner] countries. If Iran dissembles in the future, as it has in the past, then we will draw conclusions from that." Serious negotions, yeah. Just like the 3 year dialogue monologue with the EUniks. The MMs in Iran must be saying to each other, "Would you believe this sh*t???? O is giving away the farm on the installment plan. Fish in a rainbarrel."
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It's all BS.
Vz couldn't run a secret whisper machine.
A little money laundery likely, but a collusion of any serious proportion between Persia and Gran Columbia is purdy much the marching powder talking.
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They don't have to keep it secret as long as the useful (to them) retarded idiots are willing to laugh it off up here with "Venezuela couldn't run a secret whisper machine." We know they supply FARC, we know they have made the children of Hezbollah officials part of their government...
And now we know about all this junk, which is no longer secret, and shouldn't be dismissed via "Venezuela can't keep secrets."
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Early in 2005 the interior minister under Chavez admitted that they'd 'misplaced' about 12,000 officially stamped but otherwise blank Venezuelan passports.
At about the same time we began to hear about Hezb'allah camps in several remote places in South America. Now they are believed to have set up at least one training camp in Venezuela, filling (among other things) the role of a now-weakened FARC as Chavez' proxies ... but also filling their main role as Iran's shock troops. I've heard unofficial account to this effect from people in uniform who know the area well.
It's been a few years since reports that the revolutionary leader Commando Marcos in Chiapas Mexico converted to Islam, along with most of his followers after wealthy arabs handed out significant money to Chiapans who became Muslims. This isn't the only such report.
About three years ago MS-13 began arming with .50 caliber weapons and started smuggling a lot more in the way of groups of spanish-speaking young men across the border. Spanish speaking, but not latino. Here's a FrontPage article with a fair amount of detail, co-authored by the Senior Army Advisor to the Air Command and Staff College.
Venezuela doesn't need money to pay for arms. They are providing a much more valuable capability to Iran.
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So basically they're a bunch of guys who can't pour piss out of a boot but still manage to get leftist governments back in power in Bolivia, Nicaragua, Ecuador, and almost got one in Honduras, and even have our government's backing in their campaign to get Mr. Pre-Counted Referendum back into power?
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Geostrategy-Direct, Rantburg, and internal intelligence agency reports are not exactly the front page of the New York Times or CNN. Those who know have done nothing visible about it, and those who pay attention to the likes of the NYT/CNN would say the same thing .5MT did, unless their comment was, "But I thought Venezuela was near Mexico, not Iran... isn't Iran near China or Russia or something?" But the real bottom line is that Presidente Chavez need only provide the land to Iran or whomever, who are thoroughly capable of doing whatever it is without Chavista fuckers underfoot.
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Iran was also said to be establishing weapons factories in remote areas of Venezuela for the production of advanced and strategic systems.
GS-D must be on drugs to think this.
If these camps exist, their purpose isn't to produce advanced and strategic systems. Training and indoctrination is far more likely. Perhaps Chavez plans his own Revolutionary Guards.
Hizballah clearly derives a quite substantial amount of income from its various illicit
activities in the TBA, in addition to financial support from the government of Iran and income derived from narcotics trafficking in LebanonÂ’s Al BeqaÂ’a Valley. Reports of Iranian intelligence agents being implicated in Hizballah-linked activities in the TBA (ed: the triborder area where Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina meet) since the early 1990s suggest direct Iranian government support of Hizballah activities in the region
The report also notes that as many as 11,000 Muslims may have left the tri-border area and moved to areas of latin america which were less scrutinized after 9/11 From the conclusion:.
�� Hizballah has reaped hundreds of millions of dollars in profits from narcotics and arms trafficking, product piracy, and other illicit activities in the TBA;
�� a substantial number of members of the Islamic terrorist groups in the TBA have probably moved out of the region since late 2001 to other areas of South America, such as Chile, Uruguay, and Venezuela, where they may be under less pressure by security forces than in the TBA
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That was in 2003. In 2006 Robert Mueller, then Director of the FBI, testified before a Congressional committee that in the Spring of that year agents had intercepted two Hezb'allah cells attempting to enter the US across the southern border.
The Iranians have also opened International Development Bank in Caracas under the Spanish name Banco Internacional de Desarrollo C.A., an independent subsidiary of Export Development Bank of Iran. Last October the U.S. Department of the Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control imposed economic sanctions against both of these Iranian banks for providing or attempting to provide financial services to Iran's Ministry of Defense and its Armed Forces Logistics—the two Iranian military entities tasked with advancing Iran's nuclear ambitions.
My office has been told that that over the past three years a number of Iranian-owned and controlled factories have sprung up in remote and undeveloped parts of Venezuela—ideal locations for the illicit production of weapons. Evidence of the type of activity conducted inside the factories is limited. But we should be concerned, especially in light of an incident in December 2008. Turkish authorities detained an Iranian vessel bound for Venezuela after discovering lab equipment capable of producing explosives packed inside 22 containers marked "tractor parts." The containers also allegedly contained barrels labeled with "danger" signs. ...
In the past several years Iranian entities have employed a pervasive system of deceitful and fraudulent practices to move money all over the world without detection. The regime has done this, I believe, to pay for materials necessary to develop nuclear weapons, long-range missiles, and road-side bombs.
The Attorney General is not on drugs nor is he delusional and paranoid about the threat.
Two more Chinese Muslim detainees held at Guantanamo Bay have agreed to be relocated to the tiny Pacific nation of Palau, their lawyer said Saturday, bringing to six the total who will resettle.
Palau has offered 13 ethnic Uighurs held at the U.S. military prison in Cuba a chance to move there — an arrangement that would ease President Barack Obama's plans to close the contentious facility.
The men have been held by the U.S. since their capture in Afghanistan and Pakistan in 2001. The Pentagon determined last year they were not "enemy combatants" but they have been in legal limbo ever since. China regards the Uighurs (pronounced WEE'-gurs) as terrorist suspects and wants them returned.
But Uighur activists claim the detainees face persecution or death if they are returned there, and U.S. officials have struggled to find a country to take them in.
"Two more of our clients have agreed to go to Palau as the U.S. continues to look for a permanent home for them," Eric Tirschwell, the U.S.-based lawyer for four of the detainees, told The Associated Press on Saturday.
Their acceptance means six of the detained Chinese Muslims have now decided to move to the mid-Pacific state, which offered in early June to take in the Turkic Muslims from far western China.
That same month, four Uighur detainees were resettled in Bermuda.
Five of the detainees have declined even to meet with Palau officials.
The relocation agreements need U.S. Congressional approval, a process that is expected to take about two weeks.
"We are hopeful that this long overdue move to freedom will happen as quickly as possible and are doing whatever we can to make that happen," Tirschwell said in an e-mail.
There was no immediate response to requests for comment from Palauan officials or from the U.S. State Department.
Palau is a developing country of 20,000 that is dependent on U.S. development funds.
No Uighurs currently live on Palau, which has a Muslim population of about 400, mostly migrant workers from Bangladesh.
Made up of eight main islands plus more than 250 islets, Palau is best known for diving and tourism and is located some 500 miles east of the Philippines in the Pacific Ocean.
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Palau is way too close to China for these blokes to feel very comfortable. I bet all the shops are owned by Chinese, for example. There'll be Uighur Sitting Duck on the menu soon.
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I doubt there are 20 Chinese on all of Palau, Grunter. The population of 20,000 is about 99% native, with a few Americans. It started out as a Trust Territory after WWII, and gained Associate-status in 1974. It's not a paradise, but close to it. Too hot for me, though, even with the trade winds.
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My Uncle Jimmy visted Paulau late in the last beeeg war. He had some sorta gig with MAG 1.
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Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov takes vacations to personally participate in liquidation of Wahabis.
"I have taken a vacation especially to take part in operations against militants. We will announce results as soon as we complete our planned measures," he said.
Active members of armed groups have already been eliminated during some of them, Kadyrov told. So-called militant spiritual leader Dragan Dinayev was eliminated a few days ago.
"Driven by their bloodthirsty ideas, Wahabi followers themselves have created this situation, which can be ended only through their total elimination," the Chechen president said.
He called Wahabis "zombies". "The only thing they know is that they must kill everyone who does not support them. This is their sole idea. If earlier they had some superficial slogans - independence and Sharia rule, their only slogan today is to kill everyone who is not with them," Kadyrov said.
SEOUL, Sept. 18 (Yonhap) -- North Korea's titular No. 2 leader Kim Yong-nam has met with a Chinese presidential envoy who was in Pyongyang as part of diplomatic efforts to bring the country back to negotiations over its nuclear drive.
Dai Bingguo, Chinese state councilor who arrived in Pyongyang on Tuesday as a special envoy of Chinese President Hu Jintao, was widely expected to be granted a meeting with poofy-haired dwarf North Korean leader Kim Jong-il during his visit.
Kim Yong-nam, president of the Presidium of the Supreme People's Assembly of North Korea, and the Chinese envoy shared views to "consolidate and further promote the traditional DPRK (North Korea)-China friendship" in Thursday's meeting, China's state-run Xinhua News Agency said Friday.
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He met with #2, but not with Kimmie. That could be a very telling piece of information. It's either that Kimmie was afraid of the confrontation, or that Kimmie is no longer able to function as the head of state. We need to keep a close eye on this and see what comes from it.
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Chinese state media are reporting North Korean leader Kim Jong-il says he is willing to participate in both bilateral and multilateral talks on his country's controversial nuclear program.
And all we have to do is close our missile defense units in Alaska and Vandenberg ...
China's official Xinhua news agency says Kim told visiting Chinese State Councilor Dai Bingguo on Friday the North would continue to pursue the goal of "denuclearisation" of the Korean peninsula. Xinhua says Kim told the envoy his country is willing to resolve relevant problems through bilateral and multilateral talks.
Dai traveled to North Korea this week as a special envoy for Chinese President Hu Jintao. China is North Korea's principal ally and has hosted the six-nation disarmament talks since 2003.
North Korea pulled out of the talks in April after the international community criticized its launch of a rocket other nations suspected was a test of long-range missile technology. Since then, the North has insisted it only wants direct talks the United States. Washington says direct talks with Pyongyang could help get the North return to the six-nation talks.
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he want's something, Rattle those Sabers Kimmie folk your boss is low on Caviar.
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The Dutch cabinet wants to ban marriages between cousins and to introduce harsher educational requirements for import brides, PM Jan Peter Balkenende told the Parliament Thursday.
According to the PM the ban on cousin marriages will include partners from abroad as well as people in the Netherlands. For the latter the cabinet will add the ban to the Dutch family law.
Additionally he wants to change the naturalization tests for people from abroad to be more similar to the Dutch schooling requirements. The parliament will be informed about this issue later by minister Eberhard van der Laan (integration).
Couldn't find this anywhere in any English language Belgian news source.
Nine police agents were injured in riots Thursday evening in the Brussels suburb of Molenbeek. One agent was seriously injured. The violence began during the arrest of a 14 year old who had badgered and taunted the police over the previous days. Two minors were meanwhile arrested.
The two minors threw various projectiles at the police yesterday evening and resisted their arrest. They are now being brought to the magistrate. The prosecution wants to arrest them. The minor for whom the riots began needs to show up by a youth court.
Interesting link at the bottom of the article. It's not just France having problems with the colonists.
The killing of six Italian soldiers in Afghanistan has re-ignited the debate over whether troops should be withdrawn from the country. Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has assured the nation that a reduction of the troops deployed in the war-ravaged country has already been planned.
Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi says Italy is looking to discuss a "transition strategy" in Afghanistan to transfer security duties to Afghan forces and allow foreign troops to progressively pull out. He was speaking a day after Italy suffered its deadliest attack to date in Afghanistan.
Six Italian soldiers were killed in Kabul on Thursday when a suicide bomber ran his explosive laden car into two military vehicles. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack.
Despite the debate over troop withdrawal, Mr. Berlusconi says Italy remains committed to defending democracy in Afghanistan. He said, "We are all convinced it's best for everybody to get out soon" adding that Italian troops had been increased in Afghanistan for the recent elections.
He says Italy already had plans to bring home some 400 to 500 troops. He also said, however, that further withdrawal of any of Italy's remaining 2,800 soldiers is not a decision that Italy can take on its own but needs to be taken with the other countries involved in the mission.
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I don't think Italy ever recovered from its bloody WWI fight against the Austro-Hungarian and German armies, in the eleven battles of the Isonzo River. 650,000 Italian dead and over a million wounded.
And they were not even partially recovered by WWII, that decimated them further.
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My concern is that the inevitable withdrawl is hasty and ill-planned leaving behind another Somalia or worse a regional power struggle.
India has only to grab a couple of hundred square kilometers of disputed Kashmir and they have a land route to Afghanistan and the whole of central Asia. China would never stand for that.
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Given how the American commander-in-chief has been talking about Afghanistan, can you blame the various other participants for being less than enthusiastic about continuing?
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#4 Given how the American commander-in-chief has been talking about Afghanistan, can you blame the various other participants for being less than enthusiastic about continuing? Posted by: trailing wife 2009-09-19 10:07
TW, not just talking about Afghanistan, but also throwing long time allies (Poland, Czech Republic) under the bus; you can't really blame our friends for not wanting to "waste" their people on one of Bambi's whims.
DrudgeReport and Instapundit link to several more stories:
From the New York Daily News:
Zazi, whose trip from Denver to New York last weekend set off a series of police raids in Queens, filed for bankruptcy in March, court records show. Between 2005 and 2008, he opened credit card accounts with Bank of America, Chase, Capital One, Discover and Citibank and ran up a debt of more than $50,000. When he filed for bankruptcy, Zazi said he hadn't worked in two months.
While the interrogators focused on Zazi, authorities expanded their attention to include more potential suspects in a plot that raised concerns about the city's subway system. When the probe began this week, five Colorado men cited as members of the cell were under a round-the-clock watch. By Thursday, police sources said, that number had risen to as many as twelve. A half-dozen were reportedly in New York, where Zazi arrived for a visit last week.
From ABC:
Zazi has been under investigation for almost a year, according to law enforcement and intelligence officials. The CIA reportedly first learned of his alleged al Qaeda ties when Zazi visited Pakistan and officials said they later learned of "deeply troubling" conversations that were picked up on government intercepts.
From CBS:
Zazi was born in Afghanistan in 1985, moved to Pakistan at age 7 and emigrated to the United States in 1999. He returned to Pakistan in 2007 and 2008 to visit his wife, Folsom said.
The New York Daily News reported Saturday that investigators spent several hours this week at a U-Haul in Queens, examining an apparent attempt by some men under scrutiny to rent a large truck. A manager at the rental lot, Robert Larson, told the newspaper the men went away empty-handed because they didn't have a valid credit card.
The paper reported that U-Haul workers identified one of the people involved as Naiz Khan, an Afghan immigrant in Queens who knew Zazi and has been questioned by the FBI in connection with the case. Khan told the AP and other reporters in a brief interview at his Queens apartment building Saturday that agents had asked him about renting a U-Haul truck but he knew nothing about it. He called reports that he was involved "totally wrong."
"I've never been to that U-Haul," he said.
The New York Daily News says the truck was 26 feet long (7.92m if I did the conversion right. It's 2.54 cm/inch, right?):
Attorney General Eric Holder said the probe had spread beyond Denver, home to the alleged terror cell, and New York City. "The FBI is working this case around the clock in both cities and in other parts of the country," he said.
The truck rental bid failed when none of the men could produce a valid credit card. All refused to surrender the identification needed to pay cash, the manager of the Flushing U-Haul said. A team of FBI agents spent 10 hours Thursday combing through the Queens truck rental business. "We all feel very lucky right now," U-Haul manager Robert Larson told The News.
The feds turned up at the U-Haul in Jamaica around 11 a.m. Thursday as authorities continued tailing and interviewing suspects linked to the reputed Denver cell.
At least three Afghan men - including Ahmad Afzali, a Queens imam identified by a U-Haul employee as one of the would-be renters - were questioned in New York by FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, sources said. And at least a dozen people remained under round-the-clock surveillance in the case.
U-Haul workers also identified Naiz Kahn, who has said he gave Zazi a place to stay during his visit to New York last week. "None of them looked suspicious," Larson said. "They looked like laborers. Not clean-cut guys, but your average Joes."
An employee at Afzali's funeral home in Queens said the FBI swooped down on the business Thursday. "I don't know what's happening," the man said. "The office was turned upside down." Afzali, in a phone call with The News, insisted he was never at the U-Haul and had nothing to do with any terror plot. He described his sitdown with the FBI as a cordial conversation. "I will help the authorities," he said. "We have nothing to hide."
PAKISTAN has jailed six Germans, including a four-year-old girl, on suspicion of trying to join an extremist group, after arresting them on the Iranian border in May, according to the weekly Der Spiegel.
They reportedly include the brother-in-law of Munir Shuka, spokesman for the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), a militant group with ties to al-Qaeda that is often cited as a top security concern by governments in ex-Soviet Central Asia.
Also held are a German converted to Islam and his wife of Eritrean origin along with their four-year-old daughter, according to Der Spiegel in a report to appear on Monday.
The six were said to have claimed to be Turkish and to have lost their papers, and it was not until August, when Pakistani intelligence took over the case, that their identity was revealed.
Since then the German authorities have been trying to secure the release of the woman and the child, Der Spiegel said, adding that all six were now expected to be expelled to Germany.
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At least she's alive, and not used as a Bomb Marker.
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her prospective 68-yr-old husband will be soooo disappointed
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No doubt the child was left in the care of her mother, who was one of those jailed -- the Eritrean wife, perhaps. You wouldn't want to leave a foreign toddler roaming free and unprotected in the wilds of Pakistan, surely.
[Iran Press TV Latest] Pakistan has bowed to India's demand to arrest the alleged mastermind of last November's Mumbai attacks to help ease the fraught ties between the two states.
New Delhi has said that Islamabad should arrest Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, the founder of the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) militant group, as the key suspect in masterminding last year's 3-day carnage in Mumbai that killed 180 people, including those who carried out the attacks.
The Pakistani police said on Friday that they would arrest Saeed for propagating 'holy war', and collecting funds for a so-called charity which he heads.
Oh goody. When?
India has been demanding action against Saeed and other Pakistan-based militants before the resumption of peace negotiations which were broken off by New Delhi after the Mumbai attack.
Faisalabad police say they have lodged two complaints against Saeed this week for delivering a speech to his supporters last month in which he urged for jihad and appealed for funds for his Jamaat-ud-Dawa charity.
"We hope to arrest him soon," Hafiz Mohammad Irfan, a senior police official in Faisalabad told Reuters.
Ah, yes: Soon. That point in time between Now and Never.
The police complaints came ahead of a meeting between the two nuclear-armed countries' Foreign Ministers, Pakistan's Shah Mehmood Qureshi and India's S.M. Krishna, on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York on Sept. 26.
Pakistan has acknowledged the Mumbai attack was partly plotted and planned from its soil, but still complains that evidence given by India about Saeed is insufficient and not tenable in court.
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[Geo News] President Asif Ali Zardari has said that the extremists and militants were created decades ago by a deliberate policy to employ religious fanaticism for the achievement of certain strategic objectives.
Yes, we know, your excellent presidentness. Your wife had a little something to do with that, as I recall.
President made this comment in his wide ranging address and discourse with British intelligentsia gathered at London's International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS) - a prestigious and one of the high profile Think Tanks, a day after he arrived in the British capital from Dubai.
Very impressive people, all listening spellbound to the the coruscating brilliance of the president of Pakistan, Mr. Ten Percent himself. Once wonders if he borrowed President Obama's teleprompter.
Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Spokesman to the President Farhatullah Babar, Secretary General to the President Salman Farooqi, Chairman Pakistan Peoples Party Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, Aseefa Bhutto Zardari, Sanam Bhutto, Pakistan High Commissioner to UK Wajid Shamsul Hassan, writers, intellectuals and diplomats also attended.
Militants and militancy were not created in a vacuum, the President said adding, they have been the product of a deliberate policy to fight the rival ideology.
Really? What ideology might that be, pray tell?
The free world adopted a novel strategy that was based on the exploitation of religion to motivate Muslims around the world to wage jehad, stated President Zardari.
Of course Muslims have never waged jehad without outside exploitation. The very idea is unthinkable in the languages Muslims speak. Just look it up in the dictionary and you'll see it's so.
To drive home the point the President reminded the audience Afghan Jehadi leaders were described as "Moral equivalents of George Washington."
Really? By whom?
President Zardari further said that the strategy may have worked well but some serious mistakes were also made as the world abandoned Afghanistan in a hurry and no thought was given to its stability after the withdrawal of foreign forces.
Does he mean the Soviets or the international coalition there now?
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To drive home the point the President reminded the audience Afghan Jehadi leaders were described as "Moral equivalents of George Washington."
Zardari reminds me of Michael Moore LOL. Or, maybe it's the other way around.
(Xinhua) -- Lebanese Shiite armed group Hezbollah's chief Hassan Nasrallah said Friday that his group did not want a war with Israel, but urged the country to preserve resistance.
"Some Lebanese politicians are saying Israel may wage war on Lebanon, and this is possible, but we do not want this war," said Nasrallah in a televised speech during the commemoration of Al-Quds Day in Dahiyeh, southern Beirut suburb.
Nasrallah said making deals and normalization with Israel is "religiously forbidden," and his group will neither recognize Israel, nor succumb to it, "even if the whole world recognizes its existence."
A 34-day war between Hezbollah and Israel took place in summer 2006, killing more than 1,200 Lebanese and 160 Israelis. Israel destroyed Hezbollah's strongholds in southern Lebanon and the southern suburb of Beirut before ending up with a UN-brokered ceasefire on Aug. 14, 2006.
Nasrallah said Hezbollah may not wage war to liberate Kfarshouba Hills and Shebaa Farms, but will not stop demanding the return of the territories to Lebanon.
Israeli occupied the Shebaa Farms from Syria in the Six-Day Warin 1967. Lebanon claims sovereignty over this area, while Israel and the United Nations insist it is part of Syria. However, Syria says this area is part of Lebanon.
The Hezbollah chief also accused the United States of tricking the Arabs to get more concessions and push the Arab world toward normalization with Israel.
He urged the Arab countries to facilitate assistance to Palestinian resistance.
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One has to wonder how the people in Lebanon are reacting to what is going on with the people in Iran. Want if the Lebanese begin to question Hezbollah's allegiance to the dictators in Iran? What if the Lebanese begin to see Hezbollah as an extension of the Iranian dictators?
The investor, a heavyset man in a gray polo shirt, sat back in a plastic chair in his hardware store and sighed, unable to explain how his life savings had vanished so quickly into thin air, The New York Times reported.
"It's a disaster, a tsunami," he said. "Some farmers mortgaged their fields and brought in cash. Others sold land they had inherited from their parents. Teachers gave up all their savings. Old people lost everything they had."
The money disappeared, judicial authorities say, in a billion-dollar pyramid scheme that has riveted Lebanon, The New York Times's Robert F. Worth writes from Tura. Its mastermind, a businessman named Salah Ezzedine, was charged with fraud on Saturday and is being called the "Lebanese Bernie Madoff" in local newspapers. Bankers say it is the biggest fraud of its kind this country has ever seen.
But the dollar figures have drawn less attention here than Mr. Ezzedine's close links with Hezbollah, the militant Shiite movement. Many of the investors -- mostly Shiites living in Beirut and southern villages like this one -- say those party links were the reason they chose to risk their hard-earned savings with a man who offered 40 and 50 percent profits but never showed any paperwork.
The scandal has embarrassed the party, which prides itself on a reputation for honesty and selfless piety. It has also illustrated the way many of Lebanon's Shiites, despite their ascent from near feudal poverty just a few decades ago, remain in some ways a nation apart. Their residual distrust of mainstream Lebanese institutions, which helped fuel Hezbollah's rise as a virtual state within a state, also appears to have made them vulnerable to Mr. Ezzedine's schemes.
"We got guarantees that were stronger than any bank," said the investor here, who like others associated with Mr. Ezzedine, spoke only on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals. Asked whether he meant Hezbollah, he declined to answer, The Times said.
Hezbollah's general secretary, Hassan Nasrallah, denied in a speech last week that the party had any official connection with Mr. Ezzedine. But a few days later, during a Ramadan dinner with Hezbollah supporters where he appeared by video link, Mr. Nasrallah conceded that the party would in practice be held responsible, and said it was setting up a "crisis network" to assess each investor's losses. Several Hezbollah officials lost money, and at least one has filed suit against Mr. Ezzedine.
There have even been calls for Hezbollah to compensate the investors. So far, the party has said it will not do so, and it is easy to see why. The losses among southern Shiites alone run into the hundreds of millions, and Hezbollah is still struggling to rebuild the houses destroyed during its devastating monthlong war with Israel in 2006.
Mr. Ezzedine, 49, remains a mysterious figure. He was best known as the owner of Dar el-Hadi, a publishing house that specialized in religious titles and is based in the heart of Dahieh, Beirut's Shiite southern suburb. More recently, in 2007, he founded Al Mustathmir, a financial institution based in Beirut that focused on money management. He was known as a deeply religious and charitable man, with a gift for winning people's friendship.
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Has anybody but me noticed that the
"Deeply Religious" are behind a good 99% of the world's problems?
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"The scandal has embarrassed the party, which prides itself on a reputation for honesty and selfless piety." lol.
Redneck Jim, you seem to be missing the forest for the trees here. Religion is concerned with spiritual afterlife. Greed is the motivator for all ponzi schemes and it is deeply rooted in the here and now and has little to do with one's faith or lack thereof.
The reason that Arabs live in squalor is because their leaders allow them to blame the Jews for everything that is wrong in the world rather than holding the leaders accountable. I'm beginning to notice the same trend here among liberals and some independents- blaming "the deeply religious" or "fundamentalists" for all that is wrong. Just like the Arabs do to the Jews. Heck, it has worked for them for thousands of years, I suppose there is no reason it can't work here too. But I have no intention of falling for it.
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"the "Deeply Religious" are behind a good 99% of the world's problems"
You mean like the Gulag, the Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward, Pol Pot's killing fields, etc?
It cannot be stated often enough - atheist regimes killed, raped, and tortured more people in the last century than have been harmed in all the religious conflicts in history COMBINED, even if you include the ROP.
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Don't mind RJ. It's a Pavlovian thing - mentioning 'religion' just gets him to frothing at the mouth.
Seriously, this isn't anything new - and really has to do more with social issues. Take this excerpt:
many of Lebanon's Shiites, despite their ascent from near feudal poverty just a few decades ago, remain in some ways a nation apart. Their residual distrust of mainstream Lebanese institutions, which helped fuel Hezbollah's rise as a virtual state within a state, also appears to have made them vulnerable to Mr. Ezzedine's schemes
Substitute 'African American', 'Hispanic', etc. for 'Shiite" and (insert advocacy group) for Hesb'allah.
Heck, the defrauder doesn't even have to be religious - they just have to be more 'ethnic' than the rest of their target demographic.
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I've heard that Mormons from the Utah heartland are disproportionately likely to be victimized by these sorts of confidence-game-enhanced pyramid schemes. The con men depend on the higher level of trust that tight-knit religious communities produce to jump-start their scams. RJ's partially right in that members of self-isolating religious sects are more vulnerable to betrayal by quick-talking Elmer Gantry-style scammers.
Look up the Dream Mine for a classic, ongoing example.
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It's a good thing all those secular leftists voted the way they did in November, then.
Not a hint of messianic imagery in that campaign, nosirree. Must be why the policies since then have been trouble free, for them and for us.
The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything. Astrology, politicized science, the One .....
which is not to say that those who are highly religious can't sometimes be fools and PITAs too. They can, because it's a human potential that manifests in all groups.
Jim Jones Compound in Guyana and his "Koolaid"
The Branch Davidians, ETC.
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To Continue
Islam who preach that they will Kill ALL non Islamics (Y'all forget there's a war going on right now with "Religious Extremists"?)
Japan in WW2 who firmly believed their Emperor WAS God.
Kimmie who's trying right now to attain Godhood among the NORKS
No I don't believe, I've seen too much evil under the HOLY banner, but you seem able to ignore facts unless your nose is rubbed in shit first "Pappy".
And No, Just because I've Don't believe does NOT mean that I'm gullible enough to believe other plain scams like Tarot, Fortune tellers, palm reading Zodiac, or hundreds of other similar scams.
I was raised Episcopal until I actually READ the Bible and not forced to listen to other "HOLY" folks, telling me "What it really means".
Crap like Geology shows the earth far older than the Bible states, and being told (By a Priest, no less) that God made it that way to test our faith, either you believe in God, or the Lying Evidence of Your own Eyes.
Enough, I'm no longer Hag ridden by "ANY Religion" and the bullshit you're taught as HOLY TRUTH Not to be questioned.
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You mean like the Gulag, the Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward, Pol Pot's killing fields, etc?
them was religious too... the people just worshiped their leader instead of a traditional divinity.
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Has anybody but me noticed that the
"Deeply Religious" are behind a good 99% of the world's problems?
I would say deeply indoctrinated, whether these are Islamists, Gaia worshippers, atheists or liberals.
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IIRC a recent Ipsos poll in the UK revealed that a majority of (secular, post-modern post-Christian) Brits believe in parapsychology, communing with spirits, etc. Also, in Germany, where hardly anyone believes in God, about 30% of the populace believes that on 9/11 the Pentagon bombed the Pentagon. Recent polls of registered Democrats here indicate that 32% believe 9/11 was a conspiracy pulled off by Chimpy BusHitler ande Darth Cheney.
I'd say that maybe a third of any population is susceptible to a monstrous delusion of one kind or another. Size matters here: see Hitler's "big lie" theory.
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I was raised Episcopal until I actually READ the Bible and not forced to listen to other "HOLY" folks, telling me "What it really means".
Well that certainly explains your blame the Jews Holly Roller mindset. I also was raised Episcopalian and thus understand how you can sit through years and never get a clue what Christianity is about. Also explains why you were "surprised" when you actually read the bible. LOL! Who knew God wasn't Santa Claus?
If you want to argue your case, you've picked very bad examples. I suggest you actually go back and read what others here have said so that you aren't just like our blinkered Middle Eastern friends who spend their life assigning blame to a group of "very-bad-others" so they don't have to put much thought into complex issues. But then, it's so much easier that way, isn't it? Don't have to tax the brain to sort through human nature's ugly mess. You are good. They are bad. End of story.
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It's not a religion/non-religion thingy. Rather, it's trusting another member of the in-group. So Jews fall for Madoff, Shiites fall for Ezzedine, and non-believers fall for those clever guys and gals working at Lehman Brothers. The important thing here is how sudden massive poverty and an embarrassing connection will affect Hizb'allah's pull on Lebanese affairs in the short to medium term. Could it be, f'r instance, that Nasrallah's sudden announcement that Hizb'allah is not interested in war with Israel is connected?
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"Some farmers mortgaged their fields and brought in cash. Others sold land they had inherited from their parents. Teachers gave up all their savings. Old people lost everything they had."
Then they're idiots.
As are the people who gave Madoff their entire life savings to "invest" at some ridicuously high percent "return."
Madoff was a selfish, self-centered criminal SOB, but their own greed did them in in the end.
Same here. "Mortgaged their farms"; "sold their land"; what idiot does that? Now they're whining that they were scammed? Howzabout they remember you can't cheat an honest man?
Pfui.
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OK the statemenrs I made ae being rewriten and derailed
thus understand how you can sit through years and never get a clue what Christianity is about.
Oh I got it, "Do as I say and Maybe you'll get aa reward long after it'll do you any good, and in a manner that nobody can verify"
The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything.
NO it's a hard lesson that well meaning people WILL LIE to get you to do what THEY want you to do. Give me Money, of course it's NOT for me, but FOR GOD (and to pay for the church building's mortgage)along with saying do not accumulate material things (Like the gold candlesticks and lectern, the Priest's salary, and Fancy cloths bleached snowy white those DON"T COUNT)
what I'm speking of is the practice of NOT following the same "Lessons" we're taught
That "GOD"S HOUSE is somehow exempt.
To quote another saying "One set of rules for thee and another se for ME"
So common in Government today.
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Lots of Rantburg atheists agree with you about religion, Redneck Jim. If only we could figure out a way to prove one way or another, but that's the difference between faith and science. But because of your own faith, you might find it interesting to read Isaac Asimov's Guide to the Bible: A Historical Look at the Old and New Testaments. It's a tad dated now -- my copy is from 1988 -- but it addresses historical evidence as well as internal evidence, remembering that as a writer both of fact and fiction, the good doctor understood the various reasons a tale might be told. I reread it about every ten years
(Xinhua) -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Friday that the Holocaust was a "myth" created by the West to support Israel.
"They (the West) created the myth of the Holocaust," Ahmadinejad said when addressing a crowd gathered at Tehran University at the end of the annual anti-Israel "Quds (Jerusalem) Day" rally.
"They lied and then support the Jews," he added.
"The pretext (Holocaust) for creating the Zionist regime (Israel) is a lie which relies on an unreliable and mythical claim," he said.
"The occupation of Palestinian territories has nothing to do with the Holocaust, and confronting the Zionist regime (Israel) isa national and religious duty," he added.
According to local English-language Press TV, millions of Iranians took to the streets in different cities to mark the annual Quds Day march in solidarity with Palestinians.
At the end of the rallies, a statement was issued in support of Palestinians, which said that the Iranians "support Palestinian resistance and Israel must avoid any new adventurism" in the region.
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Let them speak for 29,000 years of the myth of the giant glowing glass ashtray called tehran...
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I'd actually say it's a myth that Dinnerjacket won the elections.
Of course we don't have to speak about the Holocaust. But in 1945 when the Holocaust aleady was an undeniable fact, the Bristih had no intention at all to allow a "Zionist" regime or a Jewish state.
"The occupation of Palestinian territories has nothing to do with the Holocaust.."
Maybe not with THAT Holocaust and more with the holocaust the united armies of Egypt, Jordan and Syria were planning?
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@Mr Murcek
Frankly I'd prefer that the protest babes will hang Dinnerjacket and the Mullahs by their ***** (umm if they can find them, that is)
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Ahmadinejad will be in New York on Monday. I just read this tidbit in the Weekly Standard:
Brzezinski suggests that Barack Obama do more than just refuse to support an Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear sites -- the American president must give the order to shoot down Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi airspace
Maybe Brzezinski and Dinnerjacket can get together and share a 'cocktail' or two.
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"must give the order to shoot down Israeli aircraft as they cross Iraqi airspace"
Bambi could give the order - but I suspect our pilots would miss....
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Bambi could give the order - but I suspect our pilots would miss....
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I would hope so, but I don't trust anyone educated in the last 20 years, regardless of which "side" they may be on. It's going to take hanging some people to bring back the kind of freedom our forebearers knew and enjoyed.
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It's surreal to me that we're even having a discussion about our pilots possibly being given orders to shoot down planes of our allies. Unfortunately, there are 3 long years to go.
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