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Arabia
Yemenis convicted for French tanker bombing launch appeals
I think I'd use a different word other than "launch" after bombing a tanker.
Fourteen Yemenis convicted of a string of terror offences including the October 2002 bombing of the French oil supertanker Limburlaunched their appeals on Saturday. The 14, as well as one other tried in absentia, were sentenced in on August 28 to punishments ranging from prison terms of up to ten years, to death. They were convicted on charges relating to a range of terror plots including the tanker bombing, a plot to kill the United States ambassador in Sana'a, and plans to attack embassies in the Yemeni capital. The Sana'a counter-terrorism Court of Appeals heard appeal statements from seven convicts aged between 23 and 27, who have pleaded guilty to minor offences but denied any role in the Limburg bombing, or in the assassination or bomb plots.
"Lies! All lies! At least the ones that'll get us jugged!"
After hearing initial defence pleas, the appeal courts chief judge Naji Sayid al-Qattaa set next Saturday for the next court session and asked the other seven present defendants to prepare their pleas, which will be heard December 11.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/04/2004 12:40:53 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why bother with appeals. The next Yemeni mass jailbreak is scheduled in 3 days.
Posted by: ed || 12/04/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||


Europe
Fourth would-be Allawi assassin busted
German authorities Saturday arrested a fourth man on suspicion of involvement in an al-Qaeda-linked group's alleged plot to attack Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi during his visit to Berlin this week. Meanwhile, the three Iraqis already in custody for their alleged roles in the plot denied the accusations against them during questioning Saturday by a judge, Der Spiegel newsweekly reported Saturday. The judge will decide whether to issue an arrest warrant against them. The fourth suspect, a man with Lebanese citizenship, was arrested in Berlin on suspicion of supporting a foreign terrorist organization, federal prosecutors' spokesman Hartmut Schneider said.

U.S. authorities have linked the group to al-Qaeda. German authorities have said Ansar al-Islam has about 100 supporters in the country. Prosecutors did not release the three suspects' names. One of them, the suspected head of an Ansar-al-Islam cell in the southern German state of Baden-Wuerttemberg, has been under investigation by Stuttgart authorities since October 2003, Der Spiegel reported. He was brought to the attention of German authorities by prosecutors in Milan, Italy, after a telephone call with a key terror suspect in Italy, the magazine reported. Before Allawi's visit, investigators who had the three suspects under surveillance noticed an increase in activity, phone calls and suspicious movements by one suspect that amounted to evidence of plans to attack, prosecutors say. The suspects' phone calls grew more hectic after initial intelligence led officials to cancel a Thursday night meeting between Allawi and Iraqi exiles in Berlin, prosecutors say. Allawi said the threat was part of his everyday life, the Munich-based Sueddeutsche Zeitung daily reported Saturday. "But, we will not give up, even when a few terrorists want to force us to," the newspaper quoted him as saying at a Friday evening event. Allawi left Germany later Friday for Russia, wrapping up a three-nation trip.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/04/2004 1:59:18 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Iranians nabbed over night goggles
US and Austrian authorities have arrested two Iranian men on charges of attempting to illegally export thousands of sophisticated American night-vision systems for Iran's military, US officials have said. The alleged transactions were eventually expected to involved about 3000 of the advanced helmet-mounted Generation III systems, which can amplify even faint starlight so that soldiers can see to fight in the dark. "Sophisticated night vision systems allow US troops to own the night, giving them a key advantage over their opponents during night-time combat. In the wrong hands, these night vision systems pose a threat to our troops around the world," said Michael J Garcia, chief of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The two suspects, Mahmoud Seif and Shahrzad Mir Gholikhan, were arrested earlier this week on export violation charges in Vienna, Austria, by US and Austrian authorities shortly after they arrived to pick up their first batch of night-vision equipment. The investigation dates to August 2002 and involves ICE, the Defence Criminal Investigative Service and Austrian security personnel.
Posted by: Fred || 12/04/2004 10:50:50 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Whack these bastards, and whack 'em HARD.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/04/2004 1:41 Comments || Top||

#2  I am wondering how we expect the US to keep the Russians and NORINCO from selling this stuff? The logical answer is we can't. What we can do is make sure we are 100% better trained than anyone else in using it.

These kinds of busts make us feel good but this world is not one were we control technology exclusively anymore. It's makes a nice excuse for busting 2 wankers and good press but it's pretty useless all in all.
Posted by: FlameBait || 12/04/2004 1:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Innovation is the answer. Gen 3 started aging the minute it came off the designer table.

"Its chess not checkers," SoD Rumsfeld.
Posted by: Capt America || 12/04/2004 10:06 Comments || Top||

#4  The only biggie in this is that it's Gen 3; the Iranians have long been buying European NVGs on the Amsterdam black market (Vienna has long been another black market for arms).
Posted by: Pappy || 12/04/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
US argues Guantanamo detainees have no constitutional rights
A group of 10 Guantanamo Bay prisoners who are waging a legal battle over their detention have no constitutional right to do so, US Government lawyers said and urged a judge to dismiss their cases. Lawyers for the men being held as enemy combatants at the US naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, argued that their clients have the right to a fair trial and should be given the proper opportunity to defend themselves. They urged US District Court Judge Joyce Hens Green to deny the Government's motion to dismiss the cases and to declare invalid the current military tribunal process at Guantanamo because it fails to provide due process of law.

Government lawyers told Judge Green the prisoners - who have all been deemed "enemy combatants" by a US military tribunal, which means they are not entitled to the protections normally given to prisoners of war - did not have the right to be heard in court. "We think that the enemy petitioners... have no constitutional rights," said Brian Boyle, principal deputy associate attorney-general at the Justice Department. "They are enemy combatants."

Human rights groups and lawyers for the prisoners say the tribunals are unfair because they do not permit the prisoners to see the evidence against them or allow them access to legal counsel. The International Committee of the Red Cross has accused the US military of using tactics "tantamount to torture" on prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, a claim the Pentagon rejects. Judge Green focused on the concept of "enemy combatants," and she posed a series of hypothetical scenarios to Mr Boyle over who could be considered an enemy combatant. In one answer, Mr Boyle said an old woman in Switzerland who unknowingly gave money to an Afghan charity that passed the money to Al Qaeda could be viewed as an enemy combatant and therefore could be jailed and subject to a military tribunal. "The Government showed its true colours today," said Barbara Olshansky of the Centre for Constitutional Rights, one of the attorneys who argued for the prisoners. "If under this definition of enemy combatant a Swiss granny who gave money to charity can be detained indefinitely at Guantanamo, then anyone who unintentionally acts in a way the Government finds suspicious is in danger of losing their freedom," she said.

More than 500 people are being held at Guantanamo Bay, after being detained during the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan and in other operations in the US "war against terrorism". Most of the suspected Al Qaeda members and Taliban fighters being held at the facility have not been charged or named as eligible for trial in a military tribunal. The tribunals, formally called military commissions, were authorised by President George W Bush after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States. Thomas Wilner, one of the detainees' lawyers, cited a Supreme Court ruling in June that terror suspects had the right to use the US judicial system to contest their confinement. "The world is waiting to see if American justice can work," Mr Wilner said.

Joe Margulies, an attorney representing another prisoner, said the current military system to determine whether or how to charge the prisoners was inadequate. "The (tribunals) are the perfect storm of procedural inadequacy," he said. "The evidence against most prisoners consists largely of uncorroborated statements made to their interrogators."
Posted by: God Save The World || 12/04/2004 4:37:50 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


AP: Navy Probes New Iraq Prisoner Photos
The MSM has struck paydirt again after carefully searching the entire internet
The U.S. military has launched a criminal investigation into photographs that appear to show Navy SEALs in Iraq sitting on hooded and handcuffed detainees, and photos of what appear to be bloodied prisoners, one with a gun to his head. Some of the photos have date stamps suggesting they were taken in May 2003, which could make them the earliest evidence of possible abuse of prisoners in Iraq. The far more brutal practices
What brutal practices? Forcing prisoners to look at Lynndie England?
photographed in Abu Ghraib prison occurred months later. An Associated Press reporter found more than 40 of the pictures among hundreds in an album posted on a commercial photo-sharing Web site by a woman who said her husband brought them from Iraq after his tour of duty.
dumb. DUMB Folks. Let's get rid of this stuff for send it to JAG today.
It is unclear who took the pictures, which the Navy said it was investigating after the AP furnished copies to get comment for this story. These and other photos found by the AP appear to show the immediate aftermath of raids on civilian homes. One man is lying on his back with a boot on his chest. A mug shot shows a man with an automatic weapon pointed at his head and a gloved thumb jabbed into his throat. In many photos, faces have been blacked out. What appears to be blood drips from the heads of some. A family huddles in a room in one photo and others show debris and upturned furniture.
LLL-MSM field day coming. Thank goodness the election is over.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 12/04/2004 2:35:10 PM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  2 photos are attached to the article. I say Fuck Yeah! Good Job. Baath boy better be thanking Jesus it isn't Saddam's boys wearing those boots. The AP want to see some photos? Google the aftermath of a counter mortar battery or AC-130 strike. Lots of good stuff to titilate the easily offended and give the Muslims a preview of allah's whorehouse.
Posted by: ed || 12/04/2004 15:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Jihadi wank videos of beheadings don't seem to get much attention anymore. I guess the press figured out they piss us off too much.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/04/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Again this is unfortunate- Those parties involved are going to pay a heavy price during the court martial procedure. What is the point?
Do these soldier's think they are ABOVE the LAW?

If I marched in their boots- I would say "lets make a deal". To eerr is human- this is beyond an eerr.

ANdrea
Posted by: Andrea || 12/04/2004 17:46 Comments || Top||

#4  See Top Stories - AP Judge- Commander to Testify in Abuse Trial. By T.A. Badger, Associated press writer. Under Yahoo.com
news link 12-04-04.

Andrea
Posted by: Andrea || 12/04/2004 18:07 Comments || Top||

#5  Do these soldier's think they are ABOVE the LAW?

Well hey, what's a few sawed-off heads, dead Iraqi police officers, or suicide-bombed U.S. soldiers? Those insurgent-types aren't such bad people, really....

While various groups and individuals needlessly wring their hands over this whole bullshit "abuse" idea, Zarqawi and his cohorts are laughing their heads off over the abnormal amount to attention being given to it.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/04/2004 18:48 Comments || Top||

#6  Answers to this problem would be no prisoners and no photographers.

Posted by: SR-71 || 12/04/2004 21:46 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Al-Manar deplores French ban call
Deplore and be damned.
Lebanon's Al-Manar television said a French call to ban the station from broadcasting in Europe goes against the principle of freedom and blamed Israel for fuelling misunderstanding.
Yup. Them damn Jews again.
France's CSA broadcasting authority has called for a ban on the Lebanese Hizballah-run Al-Manar's broadcasts to Europe, saying the channel, accused by critics of being anti-Semitic, breached an earlier agreement not to show programmes that could incite hatred among religions. French Prime Minister Jean Pierre Raffarin said on Thursday that Al-Manar's programmes were "incompatible" with French values, and that he would seek the means to legally suspend Al-Manar and any channels that could provoke hatred or violence. Speaking to Aljazeera in Beirut on Friday, Al-Manar TV News Director Hassan Fadlallah said the calls to take the channel off the air in Europe were part and parcel of Israeli attempts to stir up problems between France and the Muslim world.
"They hate us because we're so successful..."
He said Al-Manar was authorised to broadcast by satellite inside the European Union just two weeks ago after it signed an agreement with France's CSA not to incite hatred or violence. Should the channel be banned from broadcasting in Europe through Eutelsat, Fadlallah said viewers in Europe would be able to watch Al-Manar through other satellites. Reuters further quoted Fadlallah as saying, "We were astonished to hear the French prime minister saying that Al-Manar's programmes do not fit with French values, which we reject."
Does that statement make any sense to anyone? Bueller?
"Our programmes are based on cultural, Islamic and Arab values that a billion people believe in, and it fits with some French values like freedom, justice and human rights," Fadlallah said.
"Freedom for the state, justice for me but not for thee, and the right to violent behavior. Everybody believes in that, right?"
Al-Manar is the mouthpiece of the Hizballah movement, which played a major role in forcing an end to Israel's 22-year occupation of south Lebanon. The United States classes Hizballah as a terrorist group, but France does not.
France didn't have 251 of its troops blown up while they were asleep in their barracks, either.

UPDATE (Hat tip LGF):
Less than ten days after Hezbollah's "al-Manar" television station was permitted to broadcast in France, one of its commentators has stirred uproar after he accused Israel of "repeated attempts in the past several years to spread AIDS throughout the Arab world". The commentator, who was defined as an expert on the "Zionist entity", described at length how Israel has been trying to spread dangerous diseases, including AIDS, in the Arab world. The French regulatory body, which granted "al-Manar" permission to broadcast in the country, announced on Tuesday it would demand the French parliament to immediately cease its transmissions.
Update to the update:
If you follow the first update link, be sure to read the comments.
Posted by: Fred || 12/04/2004 11:04:47 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Our programmes are based on cultural, Islamic and Arab values that a billion people believe in, and it fits with some French values like freedom, justice and human rights," Fadlallah said.
Don't forget anti-Americanism, loudly proclaiming the glories of your so-called culture even though it's golden age is long past, blaming the Jews for everything, and a tradition of military defeat.
Posted by: Desert Blondie || 12/04/2004 0:41 Comments || Top||

#2  and a tradition of military defeat. - very funny and ooh so true , Desert Blondie .
Posted by: MacNails || 12/04/2004 7:44 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Mosul suicide bombing hits Kurdish fighters
Up to 17 Kurdish militiamen have been killed in a suicide car bombing in Iraq's main northern city of Mosul, exacerbating fears that a rising tide of violence could derail Iraqi elections in January. The deadly attack came just hours after a double car bombing in Baghdad killed at least four policemen and wounded 49 others, and 13 other Iraqis were reported killed on Saturday in a wave of attacks across the country. The Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) chief in Mosul, Saad Pira, told AFP that 17 peshmergas fighters were killed and more than 40 wounded when a suicide car bomber rammed their convoy as they were travelling through the Karama neighbourhood of Mosul. "An Opel car slammed into the convoy and exploded against the minibuses, two of which were totally gutted by fire," he said. The attack took place near the PUK headquarters in Karama.
Posted by: God Save The World || 12/04/2004 4:28:55 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


IRAQ: People from Latifiyah and Mahmoudya in need of supplies
Hundreds of people have fled the towns of Latifiyah and Mahmoudya, southeast of the capital, Baghdad, Iraqi Red Crescent Society (IRCS) officials told IRIN, as US and British troops continue to battle to flush out insurgents. The towns' streets are empty and people from the area said that basic supplies such as water were hard to come by. Dr Jaffer Hussein, a medical official from the main hospital of Latifiyah, told IRIN that they had run out of medicines and surgical materials. Since the insurgents had taken control of the hospital two weeks ago, they had not received any help from the government, he said. Also many injured people had to be taken to Baghdad because they couldn't perform surgical procedures due to the shortages. "We are receiving help only from NGOs like the IRCS and the International Committee of Red Cross [ICRC]. They are the only groups that are sending us some material," Hussein said.

He added many children were suffering from dehydration and malnutrition and pregnant women were forced to give birth at home due to insecurity.
The fighting has been taking place across the towns for two weeks and insurgents insist they will only leave when US and British troops leave the area. Nearly 100 families have taken refuge in a mosque 10 km from the city and are receiving supplies from people in the neighbourhood and the IRCS. Last week a convoy carrying potable water, food and medicine left the IRCS office in Baghdad bound for those in the mosque and some 1,500 others camped in areas 10 km south of Latifiyah. "It is very critical and we don't know how long we can supply those people in the mosque. God bless them. Every day more families are coming and asking for help," Sheikh Muhammad Jamal, from the Arassul mosque where the displaced are staying, told IRIN.

The insurgents have taken control of police stations in the towns and explosions and attacks can be heard from a distance. "We hope that the government will take urgent action over this situation," Sheikh Jamal added.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/04/2004 8:54:05 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Afghanistan/South Asia
Taliban bombmaker, 2 others toes up in work accident
A suspected Taleban militant was killed and two others injured when a bomb they were making exploded in southern Afghanistan, officials said on Saturday. Another suspect was also arrested unharmed and grenades, explosives, wires and remote-control devices were recovered after the blast at a house in the southern city of Kandahar on Friday, they said. "They were Taliban bomb-makers. The bomb they were making exploded and killed one of them, injured two and one was arrested unharmed," provincial police chief General Khan Mohammad told AFP by telephone. Another provincial security official said police were interrogating the arrested militants. "We hope we will be able to get more information about Taliban activities," he said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/04/2004 2:03:42 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
30 killed in Baghdad attacks
In the deadliest insurgent violence in weeks, militants stormed two police stations and a mosque in Baghdad yesterday, killing 30 people. In the northern city of Mosul, 11 militants died in street battles with American and Iraqi forces. Roadside bombs in Baghdad and Kirkuk killed two American soldiers and wounded five others, the military said. The surge in violence indicates militants still can stage attacks at will despite a US-led military campaign to quell the insurgency before Jan. 30 elections. Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's group, Al Qaeda in Iraq, claimed responsibility for a raid on a Baghdad police station and other attacks. ''The destructive effect that such operations have on the morale of the enemy . . . is clear," said the claim, which could not be independently verified. It was posted on an Islamic website.

US commanders and Iraq's interim authorities hope to boost security in the mainly Sunni Muslim areas of central and northern Iraq before the elections. Sunni politicians have urged them to postpone balloting because of escalating violence. The visiting NATO commander expressed surprise yesterday that Iraq's insurgency had proven so resilient by comparison with Afghanistan, where he said security has improved significantly. ''At the beginning I would have projected the opposite, with Iraq coming along faster," said US General James Jones, the supreme allied commander in Europe.

The attacks in Baghdad began just before 6 a.m. when 11 carloads of gunmen attacked the police station in the western Amil district with rocket-propelled grenades and small-arms fire. Insurgents killed 16 policemen, looted weapons, torched cars, and freed about 35 detainees before escaping, police Captain Mohammed al-Jumeili said. Later, in the Sunni stronghold of Azamiyah, a car bomb exploded at a Shi'ite mosque called Hameed al-Najar, killing 14 people and wounding 19, hospital officials said. Azamiyah was a center of Sunni support for Saddam Hussein, and the attack on the mosque may have been a bid by Sunnis to stoke sectarian strife there. However, the imam of the nearby Sunni Abu Hanifa mosque quickly condemned the attack. ''Iraqi resistance has nothing to do with bombing mosques and churches and killing innocent people in markets and streets," Sheik Ahmed Hassan Al-Taha said in a sermon. ''The resistance [exists] to defend the country and liberate it."

Soon after, insurgents and Iraqi government forces fought for about two hours around an Azamiyah police station, officers said. There were no reports of casualties. American and Iraqi forces also clashed yesterday with insurgents in Mosul, Iraq's third-largest city, US military spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Paul Hastings said. The fighting started when guerrillas fired several mortar rounds at an American base; no casualties were reported. Major General Rashid Feleih, head of the Iraqi commando force, said gunmen also attacked three Mosul police stations. The defenders returned fire, killing 11 attackers and capturing three others. Another Iraqi official said two civilians also died. Mosul, 225 miles northwest of Baghdad, saw a major uprising last month that forced the US command and the interim government to divert troops from an offensive in Fallujah. On Thursday, Iraqi and US forces discovered 14 bodies in Mosul, and there were reports five more bodies were picked up by relatives. That brought to at least 66 the number of bodies -- many of them believed to be members of the Iraqi security forces or supporters of the interim government -- found there since Nov. 18.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/04/2004 2:05:51 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Later, in the Sunni stronghold of Azamiyah, a car bomb exploded at a Shi’ite mosque called Hameed al-Najar, killing 14 people and wounding 19, hospital officials said. .....However, the imam of the nearby Sunni Abu Hanifa mosque quickly condemned the attack.

’’Iraqi resistance has nothing to do with bombing mosques and churches and killing innocent people in markets and streets," Sheik Ahmed Hassan Al-Taha said in a sermon. ’’The resistance [exists] to defend the country and liberate it."


Yes, of course! Sunni's are great neighbors, what was I thinking!
Posted by: Jeamp Ebbereting9442 || 12/04/2004 17:51 Comments || Top||


7 peshmerga killed in Mosul suicide bombing
A suicide car bomber blew up his vehicle beside a bus carrying Kurdish militiamen in the northern city of Mosul on Saturday, killing at least seven, police and Kurdish officials said. They said the victims were peshmerga militiamen linked to the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), one of the two main Kurdish parties in north Iraq. The PUK backed the U.S.-led war to topple Saddam Hussein and is part of the interim government.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/04/2004 1:57:31 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Black Watch returns to Basra base
The 850-strong Black Watch battle group has pulled out of Camp Dogwood and returned to its base in Basra. There was controversy when its troops were deployed near Baghdad a month ago to back US operations, but Tony Blair said the country was proud of them. They are expected to return home within the next week. Five troops were killed during the deployment in central Iraq. Lt Col James Cowan who led the mission said: "Their deaths are something we will never forget." Three soldiers died in a suicide car bomb attack along with an Iraqi translator, another in a roadside bombing and one in a road traffic accident. A Downing Street spokesman said: "The Prime Minister believes the country can be very proud of the job the Black Watch have done in difficult circumstances."

Lance Corporal Danny Buist, 29, from Arbroath, said: "I'm very happy to be out of Dogwood but the operation isn't over until we're back in Scotland - that's when the fat lady sings, when we are back with our families. "When we touch down in Edinburgh I'll be singing I can tell you." He added that he would like to think their mission had made a difference "for the sake of the guys we lost. I think we have done something good to hopefully make this country safer." Lance Corporal Thomas Rennie said: "I can't wait to get back to Scotland for Christmas and New Year and Hogmanay. It's going to be brilliant. I'm going to drink as much beer as possible and get the kilt on and get out on the town." Corporal Alec Wilson, 27, from Fife, who was had to postpone his wedding planning for this month said: "The first thing I'm going to do is go for a curry."

The British commander who sent the Black Watch north told the BBC last week that other British units could be redeployed to other parts of Iraq in the future.
With respect to the men who gave their lives during the posting, I think it's appropriate to borrow and adapt some of Churchill's words to comemorate this occasion:
Never in the field of human conflict has so much fuss been made by so many about so few...
Posted by: Bulldog || 12/04/2004 1:49:53 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well done, as usual.

The comparable article at the Guardian adds this quote:

"After working with the Americans you won't find a man in this company who doesn't have the highest respect for the American Marines, for the threat they face on a daily basis and the casualties they take on a daily basis.

"The support we had from them was outstanding. It felt like the whole of the Marine Corps air wing was watching over us and that gives you an enormous feeling of reassurance."
Posted by: Matt || 12/04/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||

#2  "I’m very happy to be out of Dogwood but the operation isn’t over until we’re back in Scotland - that’s when the fat lady sings, when we are back with our families. "When we touch down in Edinburgh I’ll be singing I can tell you."

This guy either reads RB or has 300 free hours at Cathy's Cliches and TermPapers.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/04/2004 17:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Thank you, Gentlemen of the Black Watch. You've done well, and done well by us.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/04/2004 20:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Agreeed TW - these boys are our companions in all sense of the word
Posted by: Frank G || 12/04/2004 20:45 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Israeli forces detain senior Hamas militant
TULKARM, West Bank - Israeli forces detained a senior leader of Hamas's military wing in the West Bank on Saturday during a nighttime raid on his hideout, witnesses said. Rami al-Tayyah, 26, identified by Israeli security sources as head of the Islamic group's armed wing in the West Bank city of Tulkarm, has been wanted by Israel since 2002.

Witnesses said Israeli forces surrounded an apartment building in Tulkarm and took Tayyah into custody. "Don't kill him, we need him alive," one resident quoted a soldier as telling his comrades.
"Avi, get the #7's! We got 'im alive!"
The security sources said Tayyah had established numerous Hamas cells that carried out dozens of shooting and bomb attacks against Israelis. Tayyah, the sources said, has evaded capture during the Palestinian uprising by hiding out among the local populace and moving from place to place disguised as a woman.
Pictures of that need to be circulated around the West Bank. Put him in a Brittney Spears outfit.
A member of the militant Islamic Jihad group and the owner of the apartment where Tayyah was hiding were also taken into custody in the raid. Troops found two automatic rifles, a pistol and ammunition at the hideout, the security sources said.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/04/2004 12:51:36 PM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Oops...I did it again."
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/04/2004 13:08 Comments || Top||

#2  “Don’t kill him, we need him alive,” one resident quoted a soldier as telling his comrades.

What wasn't heard: "The Americans promised that the underwear they will put on his head would be USED, complete with skid marks."
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/04/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||

#3  “Don’t kill him, we need him alive,”

for a while....
Posted by: Frank G || 12/04/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#4  “Don’t kill him, we need him alive.”

Seems like the Paleo lied about overhearing that. Seems a bit strange that they would talk about taking him alive during the raid. Surely it would have been made clear during the planning stage?

Posted by: Bryan || 12/04/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Now Bryan the IDF soldats didn't actually say that... but they thunk it real, real real hard, and the palis are very sensitive to Jooooo thinking.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/04/2004 17:25 Comments || Top||

#6  They THUNK it? And I was teached that the past tense of THINK is THINKED. Must be American English.
Posted by: Bryan || 12/04/2004 18:04 Comments || Top||


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Kashmir Korpse Kount
A Muslim rebel attack on an Indian Kashmir police camp left five police and one rebel dead in the region's biggest raid since Pakistan Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz visited India last month, police said on Saturday. Six police were also wounded in the attack on the camp in Sopore town, 30 miles north of Kashmir's summer capital Srinagar.A little-known militant group, Al-Mansoorian, claimed responsibility for the attack, which began on Friday and lasted 24 hours. Indian security agencies say Al-Mansoorian is the new name of Lashkar-e-Taiba, an outlawed Pakistan-based guerrilla group. "The fierce firefight ended today (Saturday) at 5.30 and the search operation of the camp building is continuing," Farooq Ahmad, a police officer in Sopore, told Reuters by telephone. Ahmad said the body of one of the militants had been recovered from the building, which was damaged in the encounter. "It is still not clear how many militants were involved in the attack," Ahmad added.
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3 imams arrested for links to Jaish
An anti terrorist team of the Sheikhupura Elite Force has arrested three mosque imams for being linked to banned militant organisation Jaish e-Muhammad and seized a large quantity of explosives and weapons. All three militants were arrested on Friday from Malyanwala village, in Farooqabad Police Station's jurisdiction. The team raided a mosque in Farooqabad, and arrested Qari Aslam, a mosque imam. During interrogation, Aslam revealed the identity of his fellow accomplices and the location of explosives and weapons. Later, officials arrested Qari Arshad and Ahmad Khan, and seized 10 foreign-produced remote-controlled explosive devices, wires, fuses and chemicals. The bomb devices were seized from a bag filled with worn out pages from the Quran.
That makes them holier, so they work better.
Posted by: Fred || 12/04/2004 12:14:08 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
Israel kills Islamic Jihad fighter
Israeli occupation soldiers have killed a member of the armed wing of the Palestinian resistance group Islamic Jihad in the north of the West Bank, Palestinian sources said. The dead man was identified as Mahmud Abd al-Rahman Khalil, 28, who was a leading member of the al-Quds Brigades, the military wing of the Islamic Jihad.
They have another wing?
According to Aljazeera correspondent in Ram Allah, Khalil was shot dead by troops who raided the house where he was residing in the village of Raba, close to the town of Jenin. The soldiers, who arrived in 20 jeeps, opened fire in his direction as he was giving himself up, Aljazeera correspondent, Shirin Abu Aqila reported. An Israeli military spokesman confirmed the death of Hammad but gave a different version of events. The soldiers who were surrounding a house "opened fire on a suspect who was fleeing, armed with a pistol", the spokesman said.
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#1  Just ONE???

How about deep-sixing more of these types? WAY more?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/04/2004 1:28 Comments || Top||

#2  he was Paleo Presidential candidate #26
Posted by: Frank G || 12/04/2004 9:36 Comments || Top||

#3  An Israeli military spokesman confirmed the death of Hammad but gave a different version of events.

About whether the heartless IDF made him play the violin in a humiliating manner before they offed him?
Posted by: Raj || 12/04/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Fred: They have another wing?

The political wing was made up to shield terrorist leaders from arrest or assassination. Worked real well for Rantisi.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 12/04/2004 12:27 Comments || Top||

#5  I think it's time for the US and Israel to offer a bounty for the head of each Al-jizz employee. I'd suggest $1000 and a lifetime supply of Starbuck's coffee. That might even entice me...
Posted by: Ebbavith Sloluck2975 || 12/04/2004 16:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Is Ebbavith a girl name?
Posted by: Shipman || 12/04/2004 18:53 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
US declares end to 'death triangle' sweep
The United States military has announced the end of a nine-day offensive launched in the "triangle of death" rebel area south of Baghdad, saying 200 insurgents had been rounded up. The operation to reclaim control of the area, which earned its nickname from the assassinations, ambushes and kidnappings carried out there, followed on from the assault on the western city of Fallujah which was launched on November 8. US-led forces moved on Fallujah in the largest and military operation since the 2003 invasion, in a bid to remove what was seen by the US military and Iraq's interim Government as one of the main obstacles to holding viable polls in January. Operation Plymouth Rock was launched on November 23 by some 5,000 US marines, British troops and Iraqi forces, aimed at flushing out rebels who were thought to have fled Fallujah. The operation was wound up on Wednesday, the US military said.

The 1st Marine Expeditionary Force said it had rounded up 204 suspected militants and discovered 11 arms caches during the operation, causing "serious damage to insurgent activity". Marines were particularly pleased with the role played by Iraqi national guards, who led several operations during the sweep, despite "a concerted campaign of intimidation and terror that has cost dozens of national guards their lives". The US military said that "while Plymouth Rock is finished, the pursuit of insurgents south of Baghdad continues".

"Each and every day we are learning more and more about those participating in insurgent activity, and we are tracking them down one by one," said Colonel Ron Johnson. "No quick fix is envisioned. The solution lies in patience, persistence and sustained presence," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 12/04/2004 10:06:00 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good lord it's the Beagle Boys!
Posted by: AzCat || 12/04/2004 5:54 Comments || Top||

#2  For heaven's sake, why do these guys feel it necessary to make announcements? Just keep everything mum and keep Zarqawi and his recruits guessing.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/04/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd chalk it up to deceptive advertising, personally. Like the man said, Plymouth Rock is over, but they will continue to extract intelligence from those they've captured and the materials they've confiscated, and will follow up on each and every lead. It's kinda like dominoes, you pick one off, it leads to the next, and the next and... Only the guys in the back room know where the next blow will land, and when. Zarqawi HAS to know we've captured tons of material from Fallujah, and will be using it to start braiding a noose for his neck.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/04/2004 16:09 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Many killed in Somali tribal fighting
At least 12 people are dead and 17 wounded after fierce fighting continued in the central Somali village of Gelinsor. Friday's toll raised the number of dead to 40 after two days of fighting, village elders said. "At least 12 people were killed after heavy shelling on Friday afternoon," Ahmad Muhammad, an elder, told French news agency AFP. "The forces did not engage in direct fighting like they did on Thursday, but they occasionally fought in the area by using heavy machine guns and also there was artillery and mortar shelling," he said.

"A huge number of civilians fled the area and gone to neighbouring and relatively peaceful villages," Ahmed Haji Hassan, from nearby Bandira-Ley village, told AFP by radio. On Thursday, at least 28 people were killed and 74 wounded in clashes as a result of fighting in the same village. Local residents said the clashes were linked to the early November killing of five elders from the Sulayman subclan by gunmen from the rival Sa'ad subclan.

A new Somali cabinet was announced in Nairobi earlier in the week. The new administration is designed to fill a 13-year-old power vacuum in the war-torn Horn of Africa state. Since the 1991 fall of dictator Muhammad Siad Barre, Somalia has lacked an effective central government and any form of national security forces, leaving the country's numerous clans and subclans to fight it out. More than two years of talks in Kenya between commanders, elders, civil society leaders and academics have produced many of the building blocks of what is hoped will lead to Somalia's first effective government since Barre's ouster. But all these institutions - a parliament, president, prime minister and, as of Wednesday, a cabinet - remain based in Nairobi, because Somalia's own capital, Mogadishu, is still considered too dangerous. Meanwhile talks are underway between Somaliland officials and UN undersecretary for humanitarian affairs, Jan Egeland. Aljazeera's correspondent said talks are being held in Hargeisa and that Egeland will be assessing the situation in nearby refugee camps.
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