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2004-12-04 Europe

Stoned to death... why Europe is starting to lose its faith in Islam

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Posted by tipper 2004-12-04 9:29:01 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I think more candlelight vigils are in order.

Posted by Shipman 2004-12-04 11:13:43 AM|| 2004-12-04 11:13:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Islam is the second biggest religion in France. So you have to integrate it by making it more French

or by making France more Islamic. Which will it be?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-12-04 11:31:45 AM|| 2004-12-04 11:31:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Mrs. Davis, if the author of this article is to be credited, his take is that Islam will have to be more French. Otherwise, the worm will turn, with the result that the Muslims are going to discover, by hard, first-hand experience, how the Jooos feel when they get persecuted.

Not, of course, that they would actually LEARN anything from it...

Posted by Ptah 2004-12-04 1:04:37 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2004-12-04 1:04:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 It will be interesting to see what happens in the recession thats coming in Euroland. People will tolerate things in good times that they are forced to do something about in bad times.

Posted by phil_b 2004-12-04 2:38:40 PM|| 2004-12-04 2:38:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 ..the horrific âlapidationâ of the young Muslim stoked a French belief that the country can no longer tolerate the excesses of an alien culture in its midst.

Problem is, that paricular "belief" isn't held as strongly as the belief that the filthy, uncivilized Americans must be opposed by the Phrench as much as possible, wherever possible.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-12-04 2:43:23 PM|| 2004-12-04 2:43:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 "housing estates"is this a PC way of saying slums.....Thats soooo Continiental.

Posted by raptor 2004-12-04 4:38:42 PM|| 2004-12-04 4:38:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "Lapidation"? Uh, where I come from, we call it MURDER. No fancy crap like, "litholicide." Just plain murder.

Reluctantly, some intellectuals have lately concluded that the model for Europe should be the US.

Who wants to bet that this will lead any of them to abandon their ridiculous socialistic models?

[crickets]

Posted by Zenster 2004-12-04 4:55:22 PM|| 2004-12-04 4:55:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Reluctantly, some intellectuals have lately concluded that the model for Europe should be the US. On Tuesday a writer for LibÃ©ration, the French left-wing daily, noted that immigrants in the US threw themselves into âthe American dreamâ and prospered. âThere is no French, Dutch or other European dream,â she noted. âYou emigrate here to escape poverty and nothing more."

sigh... No gloating here -- these people are so clueless they deserve our pity more than our scorn. Again, it's really very very simple: our religious minorities succeed brilliantly here because the state does not get in their way.

What the Europeans simply can't grasp is that the ultimate solution here is not bogus, corporatist attempts at co-optation (like Sarko's ridiculous notion of state-dominated mosques) but a liberalized economy and flexible labor markets.

Give entrepreneurs and small business owners and small banks and lower-income workers real opportunities to get ahead. End the unions' stranglehold on entry-level employment that causes absurd unemployment rates for young immigrants. Get the state out of the way, and give huge incentives for hardworking, entrepreneurial strivers. Deport resenters. Shower opportunities upon the strivers.

Posted by lex 2004-12-04 10:08:05 PM|| 2004-12-04 10:08:05 PM|| Front Page Top

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