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2004-11-22 Iraq-Jordan
Association of Muslim Scholars has one less fewer "scholar"
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Posted by Seafarious 2004-11-22 10:30:55 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [941 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 It should have been 'one fewer scholar'.

Of course this assumes that you can count them and also inplicitly that they actually are scholars.
Posted by mhw 2004-11-22 10:49:06 AM||   2004-11-22 10:49:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Guess tenure ain't what it used to be in Iraq.
Posted by Dreadnought 2004-11-22 10:59:29 AM||   2004-11-22 10:59:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "the legitimacy of the election could be deeply undermined"

This "legitimacy" game is the favorite canard of the LLL these days. People are not required to vote. If they're stupid enough not to vote then that is their choice. Remember what a choice is, AP? 'Tis Freedom. Use it or lose it.
Posted by .com 2004-11-22 11:03:55 AM||   2004-11-22 11:03:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I told you this would be the next MSM Meme du Jour: "Iraqi Elections Won't Be Held on Time". You mean they will be held on time? OK, change to "Iraqi Elections Illegitimate." you mean they will be accepted by 80%+ of the public? OK, change to "Shi'a Are Disenfranchising the Sunni." And on we go... La Resistance Continue
Posted by lex 2004-11-22 11:12:59 AM||   2004-11-22 11:12:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Dreadnought: Guess tenure ain't what it used to be in Iraq.

What are you talking about? He had life tenure...
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-11-22 11:57:00 AM|| []  2004-11-22 11:57:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 .com, yeah... it's ridiculous. Whenever the LLL are proven wrong they resort to saying that the event that proved them wrong was "without legitimacy" and therefore they are not wrong and can never be proven to be wrong. Bush won? Election had no legitimacy. Afghan elections? No legitimacy. Iraqi elections? No legitimacy.

They figured out a new way to avoid facing reality. In a way you have to admire their ingenuity.
Posted by Damn_Proud_American  2004-11-22 12:06:02 PM|| []  2004-11-22 12:06:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 He had life tenure...
BANG! "You're fired.."
Posted by Steve  2004-11-22 12:17:15 PM||   2004-11-22 12:17:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 It should've been "One sewer scholar"
Posted by gromgorru  2004-11-22 1:12:35 PM||   2004-11-22 1:12:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 After the elections go off successfully and there is no oppression or witch-hunt against the sunnis, the MSM will try "Iraq A US Puppet Used for Forward Bases" (heard it on the Diane Rehm show this am).

Along with "Iraqi Insurgency Can't Be Defeated."
Posted by lex 2004-11-22 1:18:15 PM||   2004-11-22 1:18:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 He had life tenure...

Boy, when they say, "Publish or perish!" they really mean it.
Posted by Dreadnought 2004-11-22 1:29:53 PM||   2004-11-22 1:29:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Shouldn't the organization be called "The Association of Saddam's Pet Mullahs" in the interest of truth in advertising?
Posted by mojo  2004-11-22 2:40:53 PM||   2004-11-22 2:40:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 One complaint I have about the reporting was a lack of a profile of this fellow.

What side was he on ? The AMS is a pretty broad group, and some of these people were cooperating (or pretending to).

It could have been a killing of one of the good (or not so bad) guys by the bad guys, or vice versa.
Posted by buwaya  2004-11-22 2:52:03 PM||   2004-11-22 2:52:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 The assassination of the Sheikh could also have been one targeted by US forces, under cover of the everyday chaos, and apparently random violence, of Iraq. One band of masked gunmen pretty much looks like any other band. Practically everyone carries and knows how to use an AK-47.
Posted by Ebbavith Angang9747 2004-11-22 3:45:27 PM||   2004-11-22 3:45:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 heard it on the Diane Rehm show this am

So YOU were her listener this morning? *heh*
Posted by eLarson 2004-11-22 4:15:52 PM|| []  2004-11-22 4:15:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Seafarious, lex, .com, and others, great work here.

I was intending to post the article myself, focusing on the "deeply" undermined bit. The goalposts-on-wheels are indeed being worked til they wear out by the media and enemies of progress. Lex nailed it.

Buwaya, I was wondering the same thing about the deceased. My initial reaction to this -- aside from normal human revulsion at violence, of course -- is contained glee.

The Iraq situation is above all else a nasty civil war in which only one side has as yet had the spine to be nasty. I can't see how the controlling elites of many Sunni areas will ever be pacified or bought off -- they'll have to be killed or intimidated. The spirit of Sunni chauvinism has to be crushed. A whole lot of targeted killings like this one would be a good start.

The elections can take place, and much of the country can get moving, even as things are today, but for things to really kick into gear I think the "resistance" ring-leaders are going to have to cower in fear for themselves and their families. Iraq will be solidly on track when the Sunni trouble-makers, not the Iraqi police or military, live in fear.
Posted by Verlaine 2004-11-22 5:03:16 PM||   2004-11-22 5:03:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Seen it before. It was simply comical when the MSM applied the moving goalpost approach to Afghanistan: Elections won't happen, elections are happening but are a farce (invisible ink didn't work!!!!), winners are disenfranchising the losers, afghan is a narco-state, never mind.
Posted by lex 2004-11-22 5:14:56 PM||   2004-11-22 5:14:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 It was total glee here to read this. I think it was an unofficially sanctioned message to the mullahs to shut-up and get with the program.
Posted by BillH 2004-11-22 7:19:47 PM|| []  2004-11-22 7:19:47 PM|| Front Page Top

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