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2004-11-22 Home Front: WoT
Assassination attempt against President Bush?
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Posted by Edward Yee 2004-11-22 5:49:15 PM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [422 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I think the Chileans are a little obtuse on security protocols at international conferences. Now they know. And this particular conference won't be back anytime soon.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-11-22 6:58:52 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2004-11-22 6:58:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't think so. Secret Service personnel sometimes does have a problem with local security (it even happens in Germany) because they tend to treat every space the President is going to occupy as extraterritorial. Most of the time problems are solved easily. What happenend in Chile sounds more like a chain of misunderstanding. You can be sure that local police (whether in Chile or Germany) has EVERY interest in keeping the President safe. They are sometimes a bit pissed when the Secret Service tries to treat them as irrelevant. Most of the time it depends on the liaison officer in charge to make things go smoothly.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-11-22 7:06:38 PM||   2004-11-22 7:06:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 "What happenend in Chile sounds more like a chain of misunderstanding."

You must be daft! It has already been reported that the Chilean security and the SS had been arguing that day about who would be allowed into the banquet.

Their closing of ranks the instant the Prez passed through was blatant and deliberate. And, it is not outside the realm of probability that it could have been a setup for assassination.

-AR
Posted by Analog Roam 2004-11-22 7:55:38 PM||   2004-11-22 7:55:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Payback for Operation Condor?
Posted by Thraing Uluper1662 2004-11-22 9:08:16 PM||   2004-11-22 9:08:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 TGA is probably right that one issue here is the Chilean's sense that the demands of the Secret Service were insulting to them. Before we all make too much fun of that idea, realize that they are surely the best of the security forces in Latin America -- many were trained by us.

I'm not so sure about the misunderstanding idea.

No doubt overweaning American demands should be resisted. In this case, given world events however, I strongly wish Lagos had made an exception here for Bush.
Posted by rkb 2004-11-22 9:30:18 PM||   2004-11-22 9:30:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Hell even the Queen was annoyed when the Secret Service ruined her garden :-)
Posted by True German Ally 2004-11-22 9:35:46 PM||   2004-11-22 9:35:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm gonna sound like a loon, but, WTH.

I had a bad feeling Friday afternoon. I can't explain how my subconscious put things together. It was .. reminiscent of the bad feeling that led my to cancel my Hong Kong flight 9/9/01. I was very concerned for W's safety. I'm not nearly as concerned now.

Make of that what you will.
Posted by Dishman  2004-11-22 9:57:34 PM||   2004-11-22 9:57:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I wouldn't know, Dishman, but I visited the WTC on 9/9/01 myself ... I just don't get these gut feelings. But you're right, the Chilean thing is BAD ...
Posted by Edward Yee  2004-11-22 10:03:29 PM|| [http://edwardyee.fanworks.net]  2004-11-22 10:03:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I don't ascribe any ill will to the Chileans, but I hate the fact that Saturday's episode showed that it is possible to separate the President from his security detail. That can't happen.
Posted by Matt 2004-11-22 10:04:37 PM||   2004-11-22 10:04:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I wouldn't ascribe any ill intentions to the Chilean government. More likely one person associated with senior police saw a way to bring down the government there.
Posted by Dishman  2004-11-22 10:41:31 PM||   2004-11-22 10:41:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 No one has adequately explained why cancel a State Dinner over a metal detector.

I'm not much of a conspiracist, but I stand by my original post on the original thread. Something is wrong about this. 2 events - first one, okay, just a little macho dustup. Second one - hmmmmm. Doesn't make any sense. You KNOW they use metal detectors to protect their Prez - just as we do, just as everyone on the planet does - why, for crying out loud, cancel a major event over it?

When someone has a quickie fix for this one - other than macho pride, I'll bite. If it's macho pride, again, then Lagos and his protection service need Dr Steve's immediate attention - and Bush needs to stop being so goddamned reasonable and give some shit back to fools like this.
Posted by .com 2004-11-22 11:50:47 PM||   2004-11-22 11:50:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Why not walk through a metal detector?........unless you've got something to hide!!? Possible assassination attempt was the first thing that came to my mind. All it takes is ONE HEARTBEAT to kill anyone. DON'T TAKE ANY CHANCES WITH GEORGE W.!!!! All they need to do is detain his security for ONE HEARTBEAT...... Bush turning back threw their timing off. You never know...........
Posted by Floting Granter5198 2004-11-23 12:05:01 AM||   2004-11-23 12:05:01 AM|| Front Page Top

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