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Arabia
Enraged Employer Tries to Kill Expat Worker
An argument between a Saudi and his expatriate worker took an ugly turn at a social center belonging to the Ministry of Social Affairs in Riyadh recently, Al-Madinah reported. The Saudi employer took his gun out and shot Sayed Ali, an Indian, three times. Fortunately for the victim, other workers intervened and managed to prevent the gunman from killing his employee. Sources within the police believe that there was a personal problem between the two.
"Nothing unusual, we Saudis always settle personal problems this way."
Police surrounded the building and arrested the Saudi employer, who works as a supervisor in the social center. The worker was rushed to a nearby hospital where doctors said that he suffered from internal bleeding. The victim was hit in the stomach, right leg and below the heart. He underwent immediate surgery to stop the internal bleeding. His condition now is stable but he is still under medical observation, the paper said. According to Sayed Ali, it began as verbal fight between the two. His employer went to his car and came back with a gun and shot him three times.
"If I've told you once, I've told you a hundred times, that's two sugars in my morning coffee! Take that, infidel dog! BANG! BANG! BANG!"
An official from the ministry said that the ministry absolutely condemns such incidents and will wait until final investigation is over. Workers at the social center confirmed that the two had some personal problems but it is still unknown what they are.
Posted by: Steve || 07/26/2004 9:28:23 AM || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is serious. The Saudi will probably have to memorize a whole chapter of the Koran before being let out of jail.
Posted by: ed || 07/26/2004 10:16 Comments || Top||

#2  He was an Indian and thus probably a super-infidel. I doubt the Saudi will have to memorize an entire chapter for shooting him. More likely he'll get sent to a marksmanship class.
Posted by: yank || 07/26/2004 10:35 Comments || Top||

#3  With a name like Ali, it's likely he's a Moslem.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 10:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeah, but with a name like Sayed he's probably a Shiite, so that explains it.
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Yep, that explains it all.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#6  2 year ago I couln't even spell shiite now I am understand them. Thank you Rantburg.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#7  S'ok as long as you haven't started self-flagellating, Shipman.
Posted by: Howard UK || 07/26/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#8  Why is Sayed a Shi'a name? Now I'm mad 'cuz I've been here almost three years and ship knows more 'n me...
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/26/2004 13:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Isn't there a different punishment menu depending on the occupationa and nationality of the victimized ex-pat?
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/26/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||

#10  May all English speaking people forgive me ...

HINDOOOS! as in, rhymes with; JOOOOOS!
Posted by: Zenster || 07/26/2004 17:34 Comments || Top||

#11  Sea - Do you know the secret handshake? I smell an old-boyz network...
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 19:11 Comments || Top||

#12  A bit OT. .com* did you ever hear back from the Religous Policeman? I notice that he hasn't updated his blog in over a month. Supposedly he's on vacation, but I can't help but wonder if he's been forced to shut down and shut up.
* muck4doo, how do you capitalize a period?
Posted by: GK || 07/26/2004 22:03 Comments || Top||

#13  A PERIOD
Posted by: Any of a dozen Rantburgers || 07/26/2004 22:18 Comments || Top||

#14  GK - "No" to the question about TRP's insider insight into the alliances within the House of Saud. It may just be too broad a question - or may put him too squarely on the spot... BTW, I believe he's legit. He's said some things about his employer, Prince Nayef, that I can't picture a Saudi Royal of his lofty elevation, no matter the motivation, suffering without anger... but, of course, I could definitely be wrong. For me the key is that he's never sounded a single false note - AFAIK, anyway. He's indicated a believable, but not defining, patriotism and sentiment that rang true. So I think he's actually the real deal - and yep, he should be back first week of August - taking vacation in July also rings true, lol!

BTW, my #1 source of inside Aramco info has just turned out the lights and left for the US. I'm sad for me, but very happy for him that he got his family and himself safely out. He had strong mgmt contacts and knowledge of the long-term plans, not to mention he's the guy who toured Iran, peasant-style with his 17 yr old son recently, for a month and gave me hope that regime-change could be worked out with the regular Persian people. He'll be stalking the Beltway, now, heh.
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 22:29 Comments || Top||

#15  dotcom...can you pass my email along to him? If he's coming to DC, I'd like to meet him. Also, can you drop me an e...I have something to talk to you about.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/26/2004 23:18 Comments || Top||

#16  Thanks, .com I thought about the long summer vacations too and hope that is what is going on.

BTW dozen,if it's all the same to you I'll wait to hear from that master of the QWERTY keyboard and the savant of English capitalization rules, muckydoo.
Posted by: GK || 07/26/2004 23:20 Comments || Top||

#17  Sea - I'm a little confused by your post - I have no special "in" with TRP - I'm just a reader of his blog. Regards the email thing - I emailed him via his website's listed email addy (note I left it as is so the 'bots don't get it)... Your odds of getting a response / post on a question are just as good as mine, heh. Mebbe better? Regards where TRP went, well, he made it a point not to say, heh, so I dunno!
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 23:25 Comments || Top||

#18  As to the Religious Policeman...his camel- and kitten-blogging is priceless. I love his description of the life of a camel in the Kingdom. "Being Saudis, they naturally do no work."
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/26/2004 23:29 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Bashed guard kills attacker
I like the lady
BLEEDING and bruised after being bashed and robbed, a security guard struggled to her feet and, in a lethal response, shot her attacker dead. At 11am yesterday Karen Muratore was leaving the Moorebank Hotel on a regular run for Elite Guard Force Security, carrying the hotel's takings in a backpack. Dressed in casual clothes to appear inconspicuous and working alone, she was struck down with a knuckle-duster on the hotel steps by a thief who had been waiting in a stolen car. Screaming at him to stop and with blood gushing down her face, the man, aged in his 20s, ignored her as he calmly walked to his vehicle to make a getaway. Witnesses claim Ms Muratore then walked up to the closed door of the beige Ford Falcon and fired one shot through the side window, hitting the thief in the head.
"[BANG!] Stop or I'll shoot!"
Waitress Made Price, who was clearing tables at the restaurant in the hotel, watched horrified as Ms Muratore drew her gun at point-blank range and fired through the closed driver's window. "At first we thought it was two junkies fighting," Mrs Price said. "There was no struggle, nothing, he was just relaxed inside the car. When the bloke closed the door, the lady pulled out the gun ... and the lady just shot him. Maybe she was about 2m away." Mrs Price said the thief did not have a chance to start the car.

Another witness heard Ms Muratore scream after she was set upon on the steps of the hotel, then a single gunshot. Ernest Summerton was in the backyard of his McKay Ave home, which faces the hotel's carpark, and said: "I heard a woman screaming. It was a real long scream, then a shorter scream and then I heard a huge bang and knew it was a gunshot straight away." Liverpool police Superintendent Terry Jacobsen said Ms Muratore was attacked in an attempted robbery, suffering facial injuries, at 11am. He said police had not charged her and she had refused to talk about the incident at this stage.
Smart lady. She knows the craven politicians will try to make an example of her, especially if the thief is a "minority"
Both Ms Muratore's pistol and a knuckle-duster were found at the scene. Police were unable to determine the identity of the attacker, who was not carrying identification.
"Looks like Herb, but Herb only has two eyes..."
Ms Muratore was released from Liverpool Hospital where she was treated for her injuries, with lawyers advising her not to talk to police. She was followed to the hospital by police. The Daily Telegraph contacted the Elite Guard Force Security head office yesterday but the owner refused to comment. An employee from the company said he had worked with Ms Muratore for at least two years. "I can't really speak about it at the moment. I don't really have the details but she was bashed up pretty bad," the man, who did not wish to be named, said.
Posted by: tipper || 07/26/2004 11:50:47 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Police were unable to determine the identity of the attacker, who was not carrying identification.

I guess dental records are out of the question. Good riddance.
Posted by: BH || 07/26/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#2  "Who is he?"

"No idea. Dump him in the river..."
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#3  I wonder how many years in prison she'll get?
Posted by: danking70 || 07/26/2004 17:16 Comments || Top||

#4  This being the U.K. where did she get permission to be armed? They will of course try and put this poor victim of crime in prison for having the sense of duty to do what she was paid for, protect the property she was carrying and the sense of justice for kill the mutherphucker who hit a woman, in the face no less.

Too bad it's the U.K. and where not talking to the police can be used against you in a court of law. Wonder where the 5th came from? There is your answer, you have no right not to incriminate yourself in the U.K. and Blunket can't wait to get his picture in the paper in his outrage over this act of devine justice I bet.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/26/2004 21:06 Comments || Top||


Europe
Turkish train collides with bus [2nd Crash]
At least 14 people are reported to have been killed when a train crashed into a minibus in western Turkey. The Anatolia news agency said six other people were hurt in the collision on tracks running from Aydin to the western coastal city of Izmir. Local reports said all those killed and injured were in the minibus. The accident came three days after an express train from Istanbul to Ankara derailed in Turkey's north-west, killing 37 people and injuring 81. It is not known why the minibus was on the tracks at the time of the crash.
"Hey, y'all! Look what happens when I do this..."
Footage from NTV television showed rescuers carrying bodybags from the wreckage of the bus. On Saturday, two drivers and a train chief appeared in court charged in connection with Thursday's crash. Unions have said the express train was put into service last month on substandard tracks.
Not a good time to be riding the rails in Turkey. It looks like their building inspectors moonlight for the railroads.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/26/2004 3:27:00 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Luddites Protesters destroy French GM crop
"You'll eat what we tell yez to eat, dammit!"
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 11:34:08 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's all right. They probably would've lost it anyways when the farmers went on strike. Or the truck drivers. Or the railway workers. Did I leave anybody out?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/26/2004 0:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Did I leave anybody out?

The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker ...
Posted by: Steve White || 07/26/2004 0:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Won't the French farmers need to be more efficient when the EU pulls their subsidy?
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/26/2004 1:43 Comments || Top||

#4  In the case of farming I would prefer that they stay inefficient. Inefficient tastes better.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2004 1:49 Comments || Top||

#5  I've got no problem with that, Rafael, just so long as the extra cost is met voluntarily by the consumer, at the point of sale, and not by wage slaves taxpayers in other countries. Scrap CAP!
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/26/2004 5:07 Comments || Top||

#6  These folks are wooly headed for sure.

I have fear about all my food being patented though.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/26/2004 8:17 Comments || Top||

#7  Having worked on genetic modification myself, I can tell you 99% of the objection to the use of such technology is indeed pure, luddite scare-mongering. Interestingly, the amount of public resistance to GM technology seems to be directly proportional to a nation's psychological health and optimism, in general. The fact that the French seem to have taken the utterly irrational anti-GM cause to heart is just another indicator of widespread reality denial.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/26/2004 8:24 Comments || Top||

#8  Well it's rampant fear and fear mongering in the U.K. and the contintent. In North America it's not much of an issue. My problem is patenting food crops.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/26/2004 8:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Anyone have any idea what kind of GM corn was destroyed by the Hottentots? I found an article mentioning that the fields were run by Pioneer, which probably means Herculex I, but that's just a WAG. For all I know, they were experimental non-food medicinal crops.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 07/26/2004 8:34 Comments || Top||

#10  Flamebait - we're talking about maize, AKA corn. Who cares if it's patented? Modern maize can't be profitably replanted - it's grown from hybrid seed which won't breed true. Has been since the Thirties. If that bugs you, go yell at the grave of Henry Wallace. He was responsible, back in the day...
Posted by: Mitch H. || 07/26/2004 8:36 Comments || Top||

#11  Big points for Mitch H.! It's damn difficult to drag ole Henry into a modern blog fight! :)
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#12  Jose Bove, the Destructor of McDonalds restaurants; Mamere, I believe former minister of environment, perhaps only Green party head, while Jospin was PM. In other words, the usual suspects. They're more than willing to accept the consequences since nothing will be done. Liberation and Le Monde already defended Bove when he smashed up the "MacDo" restaurants. Cops taking photos and names. Scare me. You can be sure all the papers and TV were there to record events.
Posted by: Michael || 07/26/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#13  Let the frogs eat grapes. There is going to be a bumper crop this year and, with declining wine exports, France must do something with the excess grapes.
Posted by: Random thoughts || 07/26/2004 11:17 Comments || Top||

#14  Somebody should tell them that Lance Armstrong eats GM food.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 07/26/2004 13:09 Comments || Top||

#15  Somebody should tell them that Lance Armstrong eats GM food.

LOL. Ahem.... speaking of genetically modified. :)
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#16  It's interesting. The word sabotage comes from a time when field workers had overseers to tell them what to do. There was one overseer who was very overbearing and the workers hated him so one night they trampled down HIS field of grain with their sabots, wooden shoes, hence the word sabotage.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/26/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#17  DC - I heard the same root origin but that the sabots were thrown into machinery.

Sabot also gave its name to the jettisoned 'slippers' surrounding the dense small-calibre penetrator of Armour-Piercing Discarding Sabot (APDS) anti-tank shells, but I'm sure you already knew that.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/26/2004 17:03 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
$262 Dinner, $0 Tip - Yep, It's John Forbes Kerry!
Via FARK. Man of the people, indeed...

(Non-)Tipper's Name: John Kerry

Restaurant: Chart House

Where it happened: Alexandria, VA
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $262.60 / $0.00 / 0%

What happened:
June 5, 04 Kerry, his wife, 4 unknown suits - We were happy to seat them in a semi-private area and gave them the same excellent service as we would give anyone - then got stiffed!

Posted by: Raj || 07/26/2004 2:31:44 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No. Class.
Posted by: Mike || 07/26/2004 15:41 Comments || Top||

#2  John's all-purpose reply (to be read in a 'how dare you question me' tone):

(Kerry) Well, I guess you just don't know how it works around here. (/Kerry)
Posted by: eLarson || 07/26/2004 15:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Assuming, of course, that this anonymous entry online actually happened, rather than being a dirty trick ....

No way to tell. (And no, I can't stand Kerry. I just think it's important to keep track of what we know vs. what is fun to think ....)
Posted by: too true || 07/26/2004 16:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Hopefully someone will try to verify this (local hack? could be a big story...). But for the time being, I'm with you being sceptical about this, too true.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/26/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||

#5  I bet Kerry feels stiffed that the resturant didn't give him a tip for simply being in the glow of his (Kerry's) personal presence......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/26/2004 16:14 Comments || Top||

#6  No real surprises here. After all, the whole point of liberalism is to use our tax dollars to pay for their pet causes. When it comes to their own money, liberals are stingier than conservatives - after all, they supported initiatives to have other people pay to take care of the bill - they gave at the office, in a metaphorical kind of way.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2004 16:21 Comments || Top||

#7  I can understand the skepticism, too true & Bulldog, but I've heard & seen far, far too many of these Kerry stories to believe otherwise. I'd lay $20 on this story being true.
Posted by: Raj || 07/26/2004 17:22 Comments || Top||

#8  I told this twit I was going to raise the minimal wage to 17 bucks an hour, what else does he want? I'm working on free car insurance now! Geez cut me a little slack.
Posted by: J Forbes K || 07/26/2004 18:21 Comments || Top||

#9  Can't believe the waiter/waitress let them leave without tipping...but then there was that waiter who chased the Sopranos out into the parking lot for a bad tip and got whacked!
Posted by: GreatestJeneration || 07/26/2004 18:24 Comments || Top||

#10  Bet that waiter would have felt differently had he only known that JfK served in Vietnam and possesses three Purple Heart Medals. Someone should tell him that 'cause Kerry is much too modest to mention such things.
Posted by: GK || 07/26/2004 19:18 Comments || Top||

#11  Terayzah must have forgotten her purse.
Posted by: Tibor || 07/26/2004 20:25 Comments || Top||

#12  Ha! From his rep up here, they were lucky. He usually stiffs you on the tab too.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/26/2004 21:01 Comments || Top||


Video of Teresa Heinz telling Reporter to "shove it" at convention
Posted by: Gecko || 07/26/2004 02:35 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Truly pathetic. Tay-ray-sah makes a speech in which she uses the phrase "un-American"--they have her right there on video. When the guy from the Trib-Review asks her what she meant by "un-American," she denies saying it and goes into full Howard Dean meltdown mode.

Is she challenging Hillary for the mantle of "shrew," or what?
Posted by: Mike || 07/26/2004 10:37 Comments || Top||

#2  What about a Theresa-vs-Dick shouting match? I agree with Mike that she is another Hillary shrew in waiting. Probably wants to be the first Senators widow/First Lady/Senator in history. She will be running on the Compassionate Party ticket.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 07/26/2004 10:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Heard all about it on Drudge last night. All I could think about was what in the world would make her think she could tell a reporter to shove it. I'll tell you what. It's arrogance. She's a billionaire who hasn't had to work a day since her wedding to Heinz. People sucking ass and kissing the ring so she contributes a few thousand to this or that cause. It all fell into her lap. Just shut up and thank God you don't have kids in college, three w-2 forms to file and no health insurance.

Contrast her behavior with Laura's. The 1st lady has an MA in Library Science, loves good literature, and focuses on what she can do to help kids, which is to get them to read. I really appreciate her attitude since I've been trying to get students to do the same for the past 25 years, and nothing is more important as reading as far as developing critical thinking. EG, I'm in the middle of "War and Peace" and Tolstoy really knows how to paint a picture and describe/develop characters. You can't top good books as a learning tool.
I seem to remember reading stories about Teresa in the past year on how much she dreaded politics and having reporters around to ask inconvenient questions. Just her Euro attitude of insousiance that she wants to demonstrate to the unwashed, unsophisticated wannabes in her party. The reality is she wants to take us down the path of statism.
Posted by: Michael || 07/26/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Yup... Definately 1st bitch lady material....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/26/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Tonight on "Celebrity Cat Fight"! Taaaaaaaaraysa vs. Hillary! Live on Paaaaaaay Per View!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/26/2004 12:14 Comments || Top||

#6  I like theresssa she has 3 things I long for, 2 real ankles and real money.
Posted by: Bill || 07/26/2004 12:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Paul Harvey had this on his report today too.

Michael, well said, Painting the picture and devolping characters is music in lit, film, and fine art also.
Posted by: Lucky || 07/26/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||


Two Protest Groups Clash Near DNC Center
As delegates arrived Sunday for the Democratic National Convention, protesters clamored for attention, staging demonstrations and marches across the city against the Iraq war, abortion and a host of other issues.
"Hey! Over here! Lookit me!"
An estimated 3,000 demonstrators, most of them protesting against the war, rallied on Boston Common before winding their way through the city and marching past the FleetCenter, the downtown arena where delegates are nominating hometown candidate John Kerry for president this week. They were accompanied by a ragtag group demonstrating against everything from oppression in Haiti to better funding for schools and health care. The protesters passed the FleetCenter before looping back through City Hall Plaza and returning to the Common - a 50-acre park that is the starting point for the Freedom Trail and was once used for public hangings. ``This is just the beginning of a week of protests,'' said Larry Holmes, spokesman for the Act Now to Stop War and End Racism, the coalition of activist groups that staged the march. At Faneuil Hall, the historic meeting house where patriots gathered before the American Revolution, an estimated 1,000 anti-abortion protesters staged a rally before a smaller group set off on their own march toward the FleetCenter. A brief scuffle broke out on the Common between some of the peace demonstrators and a man carrying a graphic anti-abortion sign. Witnesses said the man was pushed to the ground and his shirt was torn, but he was unhurt. The anti-war and anti-abortion groups crossed paths again a few blocks from the FleetCenter and exchanged angry words. A handful of anti-abortion marchers lay in the street in the fetal position as their fellow protesters drew chalk outlines around them. Police moved them along, and the marches continued their separate ways after a few moments of confusion. Authorities took two people into custody. One was later released without charges.
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 12:21:36 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think a big clash is coming. ANSWER and the other moonbats have been planning for months to pull out all the stops in an attempt to disrupt the convention and impress the delegates. It worked in Chicago in 1968, and that victory has iconic status in the folklore of the loony left.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/26/2004 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  most of them protesting against the war

In Sudan, I presume.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/26/2004 0:52 Comments || Top||

#3  "Peace" demonstrators attack a man carrying an anti-abortion sign? Talk about your baby killers.
Posted by: ed || 07/26/2004 0:54 Comments || Top||

#4  When the Giant Puppets show up, I'll know they mean business.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/26/2004 0:58 Comments || Top||

#5  If some of the hard-core ringleaders of the so-called 'anti-war' (anti-American) movement are discovered to be directly linked to various jihad terrorist groups, such as Hamas Hizballah or al-Qaida, and their arrests are made very public, such devastating news to the radical Left would result a the finger being pointed at the Dems.

Adverse breaking news like this especially in the midst of Kerry's 'former' national security 'advisor', Sandy Berger is under a legal microscope for stealing government documents would ruin the Dems chances for regaining the White House.

Maybe somebody out there is already investigating the all possibilities in this presidential election year. Hint, hint :)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/26/2004 0:58 Comments || Top||

#6  ANSWER v. NO ANSWER -- I report, they beat on each other, you decide.
Posted by: Capt America || 07/26/2004 1:04 Comments || Top||

#7  The Larry Holmes, of boxing fame? Lovely
Posted by: Capt America || 07/26/2004 1:06 Comments || Top||

#8  AC - The film footage I saw on Fox indicates you're spot-on. It's coming. They were emoting on high and it was surprising no one did throw a punch - they certainly looked to be past the post. So is this red on pink, or pink on red?
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 1:25 Comments || Top||

#9  Why doesn't the Guardian just call it what it is, a hey-look-we're-a-bunch-of-assholes demonstration?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 07/26/2004 1:25 Comments || Top||

#10  This has just gone dementio: About an hour ago, Drudge put up a blurb claiming that 4 unidentified parachutists had landed on the roof of the Tip O'Neil federal building in Boston and that SWAT teams had surrounded the place. The story was pulled 20 minutes later and there hasn't been a word since.
A night jump into a crowded city is just not in the cards for an exercise. A hoax by commu-tard disruptors is probable, but even that would be newsworthy by now. The other possibility is the media cooperating in a brief blackout surrounding a critical special op, I won't speculate any further.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/26/2004 1:58 Comments || Top||

#11  The media cooperating with special ops?

I stopped believing that after the Chicago Tribune squealed on the "spring offensive" that became one giant FUBAR.
Posted by: Edward Yee || 07/26/2004 4:13 Comments || Top||

#12  "Common - a 50-acre park that is the starting point for the Freedom Trail and was once used for public hangings." Oh, yeah. That's a leftist British paper alright. Can't have the crazed capitalist colonists thinking they have any claim on progressivism or liberty, can we?
Posted by: Mitch H. || 07/26/2004 8:44 Comments || Top||

#13  The real violence won't get started until the Republican convention. What we'll see this week is the figleaf stuff -- just enough to plausibly claim the loons don't support or are supported by the Democrats.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/26/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#14  The real violence won't get started until the Republican convention.

I dunno, the NYPD might not be inclined to take that kind of crap, especially if these "protesters" ultimately go off the deep end in Boston.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 07/26/2004 11:32 Comments || Top||

#15  You're on to something there for sure Robert, NYC is going to be a war zone for the Republican convention. You'll see more moonbats on parade than you can stomach, all televised under a solemn tone of "this is real America with real grievances in the streets against the evil GWB".
It'll be non-stop riot coverage for a week.


Posted by: JerseyMike || 07/26/2004 11:36 Comments || Top||

#16  BOSTON -- State police are still investigating reports that parachutists landed near the FleetCenter Sunday night, but there is little information about what may have been only a security drill. The FleetCenter is the site of the Democratic National Convention, which begins Monday night.
NewsCenter 5's Gail Huff reported that military police called in reports just after midnight that two parachutists had landed in the yard of the Charles River Park condominium complex. Additional reports indicated there were also parachutists on the top of the Tip O'Neill Federal Building located next door to the FleetCenter. Before police helicopters arrived, officers on the ground covered the area, sending officers to the roofs of the buildings. SWAT teams went to the top of the federal building. All available state and local officers responded, some with K9 units. Nothing was found and state police said no one was arrested.


Sounds like the hookers from Fort Bragg have arrived.
Posted by: Steve || 07/26/2004 11:40 Comments || Top||

#17  What would ANSWER have done if Bush declared a "Disagreement About Terrorism" Instead of the WOT?
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/26/2004 13:42 Comments || Top||

#18  Sounds like the hookers from Fort Bragg have arrived

That's the "Golden Nights" precision um, parachute team.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/26/2004 13:46 Comments || Top||

#19  LOL! Damn way good... sounds like a setup.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#20  There's a joke in here somewhere about 'chutes getting packed but I'll just leave it alone. heh
Posted by: Doc8404 || 07/26/2004 14:12 Comments || Top||

#21  The Guardian is printed on paper made from trees. Trees were once used for public hangings.
Posted by: Anonymous5765 || 07/26/2004 14:44 Comments || Top||

#22  Trees were also used to burn heretics.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/26/2004 21:05 Comments || Top||


Heinz Kerry Tells Reporter to 'Shove It'
Teresa Heinz Kerry urged her home-state delegates to the Democratic National Convention to restore a more civil tone to American politics, then minutes later told a newspaperman to ``shove it.''

``We need to turn back some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics,'' the wife of Sen. John Kerry told her fellow Pennsylvanians on Sunday night at a Massachusetts Statehouse reception. Minutes later, Colin McNickle, the editorial page editor of the conservative Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, questioned her on what she meant by the term ``un-American,'' according to a tape of the encounter recorded by Pittsburgh television station WTAE. Heinz Kerry said, ``I didn't say that'' several times to McNickle. She then turned to confer with Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and others. When she faced McNickle again a short time later, he continued to question her, and she replied, ``You said something I didn't say. Now shove it.''

The Pennsylvania delegation was the first to be visited by the wife of Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee. Before her encounter with McNickle, she criticized the tenor of modern political campaigns, without being specific.
I thought "shove it" was pretty specific...
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 12:15:03 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I didn't say I had to do it. I meant, you know, the little people. Like Cheney.
Posted by: Taaaaaresa || 07/26/2004 0:22 Comments || Top||

#2  No one know more about "un-American" than Miss Mozambique.
Posted by: ed || 07/26/2004 0:49 Comments || Top||

#3  tick...tick....tick....BOOM!

Taraaasa gone wild!

A future first lady in action. Can't wait for her "Operation Shove It!" speech this week.
Posted by: Capt America || 07/26/2004 1:11 Comments || Top||

#4  Lol - She's a cat on a hot tin roof - and she's extra-sensitive. Reminds me of the "dancing" chicken at the State Fair, heh. If it weren't a matter of life and death, she would be a scream.
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 1:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Well, Heinz is a terrible person, but I relish the press actually getting a tiny taste of what they dish out on a daily basis.
Posted by: Gromky || 07/26/2004 3:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Do not give a major speech on the mote in your brother's eye until you have taken care of the beam in your own.
Posted by: Mike || 07/26/2004 6:36 Comments || Top||

#7  If I owned 4% of Heinz stock, anyone could say anything they'd like to me and I would take no offense. I'd remain as reasoned and grounded as I'am now. My reply to any query would be: "Shut up you dreadful commoner, I'm rich hahahahaha, off to the Ferrari dealer!"
Posted by: JerseyMike || 07/26/2004 7:37 Comments || Top||

#8  It depends on what your definition of "it" is.
Posted by: Chris W. || 07/26/2004 12:44 Comments || Top||

#9  Maybe she should lay off the sauce before she speaks in public, eh?
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/26/2004 14:33 Comments || Top||

#10  Mike:
The link is funny. Especially where Teresa touts her Mozambique-was-a-repressive-regime. Bay Area Libs just sucked it up.

Scroll to comments where guys asks if there is a discount for 100 buttons. Also loved the one where Teresa is encouraged to run for Penn. senator.
Posted by: michael || 07/26/2004 17:40 Comments || Top||

#11  ``We need to turn back some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics,'' the wife of Sen. John Kerry told her fellow Pennsylvanians...

I didn't realize that Teresa was the patron saint of American traits. Silly me.

Posted by: jules 2 || 07/26/2004 20:41 Comments || Top||


Dean Welcomed Like Rock Star by Dems
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 00:17 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Honest folks, these people are suppose to be well behaved this week; not dish as much red meat as normal.

But, time will tell....will they relate to average Joe or Jane?
Posted by: Capt America || 07/26/2004 1:13 Comments || Top||

#2  This should be good for a few good Allahpundit photoshop projects.
Posted by: John in Tokyo || 07/26/2004 3:34 Comments || Top||

#3  "Hellllooooo Boston! Are you ready to rock? YEEEEAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!"
Posted by: Mike || 07/26/2004 8:37 Comments || Top||

#4  It was "Rock the Vote. They probably thought he was a rock star.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/26/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Priceless: the last 2 paragraphs:
On the other hand, Free, the evening's emcee and co-host of the BET video countdown show ``106 & Park,'' admitted that she's only voted once in her life. ``That's about to change because I saw Fahrenheit/911,'' referring to Michael Moore's blockbuster documentary.

``Did y'all see Fahrenheit 9/11?'' she asked the crowd, drawing plenty of cheers. ``After I saw that, I said 'I'm going to vote every single year.'''

EVERY SINGLE YEAR! LOL. Farking amazing moonbatitude.
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 07/26/2004 14:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Brett,

She'll get the voter registration form confused with her renewal to People magazine. Yet another super-motivated non-voter.
Posted by: dreadnought || 07/26/2004 14:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Ah, come on, Brett. She's including the local school property tax referendum, school board election, the condo board, PTA president, etc.
Posted by: michael || 07/26/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Any bets she probably couldn't spell "referendum", even if we spotted her the "dum"?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/26/2004 23:50 Comments || Top||

#9  For some reason, African-Americans (at least some of them) are really down with the Fahrenheit 9/11 jive.
Time to get off that dumbed-down Dimocrat plantation, brothers and sisters!
Posted by: GreatestJeneration || 07/26/2004 23:59 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
US Offers Citizenship To 7000 Ahiska Muslims
EFL
The United States has agreed to grant citizenship to 7,000 Ahiska Muslims who will be settled in Pennsylvania, reported a Russian newspaper on Friday, July 23. The first 11-strong batch of the Ahiska Muslims, living in the Russian province of Krasnodar, left for Geneva on Thursday, July 22, before flying to Philadelphia, reported Novie Izvestia. It added that the Muslims would be housed near the grand mosque in Philadelphia. The paper recalled that Krasnodar governor Alexander Tkachev was notified of the American decision on February 15.
It's another Islam Online, and only Islam Online story.

?
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 07/26/2004 6:58:47 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I give this story credibility. The US has been resettling religious minorities from many parts of the world. For instance many Jews and Baptists from Russia were resettled in the US. Russia suddenly had many folks to converted to Baptists or found their long lost Jewish roots. Bantus are another example.
Posted by: ed || 07/26/2004 10:02 Comments || Top||

#2  At a time of war with "extremists" in the Islamic faith, is it prudent for the USA to bring in 7000 more Muslims to our shores? A year ago we brought in 10,000 Somalians. More feel good nonsense.If extremists only represent a small percentage of Muslims -say 5%- out of 17,000 new Muslim immigrants we're looking at potentially 850 "evil doers" in the new immigrant ranks.

Last week there was a guy interviewed on Scarborough Country...in relation to the Annie Jacobsen story, and this guy said AQ had operatives/sympathizers employed in our Immigration Dept. as well as other sensitive gov't departments. Point of his comment was that AQ is patient. AQ gets its ducks in a row before a strike, and is willing to wait for years to do so.
Posted by: rex || 07/26/2004 11:46 Comments || Top||

#3  I don't have a problem with them resettling. I wouldn't have a problem with having a large number of Kurds move in to my neighborhood. The enemy is the Wahabiists - pure and simple.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/26/2004 13:58 Comments || Top||

#4  These are Turkish Moslems who were deported from Georgian regions close to Turkey by Stalin. They were forcibly resettled in the 'stans. The Uzbeks, for one, don't like them and there were pogroms in 1989.

LINK

Also of interest: LINK
After the dissolution of the USSR, Turkey became increasingly more sensitive to the plight of the Ahiska Turks in the 1990s. With the “Law for the Acceptance into Turkey and Resettlement of the Ahiska Turks” passed in 1992, Turkey agreed not only to the resettlement in Turkey of the Ahiska Turks but also granted dual citizenship to those Ahiska Turks who would remain in the newly-independent former Soviet republics.15 This law gave a new impetus to the migration to Turkey of the Ahiska Turks, whose main aim was migrating to Turkey rather than returning to their homeland in Georgia.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 07/26/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Thanks for the material, Chuck. My printer is still spitting it out, but it loks like we did the right thing.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/27/2004 0:48 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
NATO, U.N. Accused of Failing in Kosovo
PRISTINA, Serbia-Montenegro - A leading human rights organization blamed NATO and U.N. police Monday for failing "catastrophically" to protect minorities in Kosovo during ethnic violence earlier this year.
It would be news if they didn't fail.

Among other charges, the New York-based Human Rights Watch accused NATO-led peacekeepers of locking their gates and standing by as ethnic Albanians burned Serb houses just outside their bases during the mid-March riots that left 19 people dead and 900 injured. "The NATO-led Kosovo Force and U.N. international police failed catastrophically to protect minorities during the widespread rioting," the group said in a 66-page report entitled "'Failure to Protect: Anti-Minority Violence in Kosovo, March 2004."
The report also accused the international community in Kosovo of being in "absolute denial about its own failures." "While international actors have been universally and accurately critical of Kosovo Albanian leadership during and after the crisis, the dismal performance of the international community has escaped similar critical scrutiny," the report said.
Of course, US troops were not there to blame.

A NATO spokesman in Kosovo said the report does not do justice to peacekeepers' attempts to normalize the situation. "These reports coming from (an) armchair position do not pay any respect to the efforts of the soldiers," said Col. Horst Pieper of the NATO-led peacekeepers in Kosovo. He said the peacekeepers "quickly stabilized the situation within hours during the riots and prevented ... civil war." "The soldiers ... did their utmost to de-escalate the situation and to save many lives," he said.
NATO-led peacekeepers said after the riots that they chose to save people's lives instead of buildings. Over 1,200 of those fleeing the rampage found temporary refuge inside their military bases. Mobs of ethnic Albanians targeted Serbs and other minorities in a two-day rampage in mid-March, triggered by the deaths of two children allegedly chased into a river by Serbs. Beyond the dead and injured, 4,000 people — most of them Serbs — were displaced, and at least 600 homes and Orthodox Christian churches were burned.
The March violence was the worst since the end of the 1998-99 war, which led to U.N. protectorate status for Kosovo after a NATO air war stopped Serbia's crackdown on independence-seeking ethnic Albanians. Some 18,000 NATO-led peacekeepers are in the province working alongside some 10,000 U.N. and local police officers. The events raised questions about peacekeepers' ability to prevent or quell violence, and represented a dramatic setback for international officials intent on reconciling the bitterly divided ethnic Albanian and Serb communities.
"This was the biggest security test for NATO and the United Nations in Kosovo since 1999, when minorities were forced from their homes as the international community looked on," said Rachel Denber, acting executive director of Human Rights Watch's Europe and Central Asia Division, in a statement. "But they failed the test," she said. "In too many cases, NATO peacekeepers locked the gates to their bases, and watched as Serb homes burned."
According to the report, in at least four instances the peacekeepers were confined in their bases, without crowd-control equipment, as crowds of ethnic Albanians walked past them and set houses, churches and monasteries ablaze.
In the northern village of Svinjare, French NATO soldiers stayed inside their base as 137 Serb homes were burned and neighboring ethnic Albanian homes left untouched, said the report. In another instance, German soldiers in the southern town of Prizren "failed to deploy to protect the Serb population and its historic Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries," despite calls for assistance from their German compatriots at the U.N. police in the same town, the organization charged. The village of Belo Polje in western Kosovo, adjacent to the main Italian military base, was burned to the ground, the report said.
But the left still want's to put these bozos in charge of Iraq.
Posted by: Steve || 07/26/2004 2:07:51 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But the left still want's to put these bozos in charge of Iraq

Where they would be on the side of Islamacist rioters once again .... that's consistent.
Posted by: too true || 07/26/2004 14:22 Comments || Top||

#2  But the left still want's to put these bozos in charge of Iraq.

What better way to ensure failure? Failure in Iraq ensures victory in November.
Posted by: eLarson || 07/26/2004 14:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Am I the only American who feels that Clinton may have jumped the gun prematurely in siding with the Albanians against the Serbs? Seems that we only got one side of the story from our media back then - I for one didn't notice how one sided they were at the time. Now we hear many tails of the Albanian Muslims burning and killing and carrying on as we know the ROP likes to do. Is there any chance that they had it coming to them? If there are any serbs blogging here today - I'm sorry we stopped your program - it looks as if we'll be heading down that slope ourselves in several years.
Posted by: Robjack || 07/26/2004 15:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Robjack: Am I the only American who feels that Clinton may have jumped the gun prematurely in siding with the Albanians against the Serbs?

I thought it was a good thing we did there, but now I'm not so sure. The Serbs have never been our enemies - I've never heard of Orthodox Christians wanting to mount a crusade against America. In retrospect, I think this is more of the Democratic policy of alienating America's friends (among pro-American, but authoritarian governments around the world) and sidling up to America's enemies (such as China, North Korea, et al - you name it, they appeased it). As long as American interests are set back, they are for it.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#5  Human Rights Watch says NATO is failing in Kosovo? Let's turn the province over to Human Rights Watch. Better still, let's turn it back to Yugoslavia.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#6  The report also accused the international community in Kosovo of being in "absolute denial about its own failures...

You bet, and the failure and denial don't end there.

NATO-led peacekeepers said after the riots that they chose to save people's lives instead of buildings.

If we are to assume that lives were valued over assets, we might cheer; however, that is a rash assumption.
Posted by: jules 187 || 07/26/2004 15:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Robjack

Michael Savage was on the Serb side at the time. He was not syndicated then, but I'm sure if you call him, he'll be happy to say I told you so. He was not focused on the religious angle at all, mostly on the fact that the Serbs had been our allies in WWII and why were we putting it to them now?

Remember that Yugoslavia fell apart after the German reunification. Apparently the Germans needed more lebensraum, so they gave the green light to their allies from WWII, the Croats led by Franjo Tudjman, to seceed from Yugoslavia. Bush I did nothing about it and the term ethnic cleansing was introduced into our vocabulary when the Croats forced all the Serbs out of Krajina during the Clinton administration. The Serbs historic ally is the Russians, but they were otherwise occupied at the time. So after the Serbs got kicked out of Krajina, they decided to get even with the Albanians and kick them out of Kosovo. This time the world paid attention.

The Serbs have the misfortune to have hired the same PR firm as the Palestinians
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 07/26/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#8  end of prior comment:

Still, there's nobody whose pure as the driven snow in the Balkans, so if we don't want to wake up smelling like a pig, we shouldn't get in bed with any of them. And no matter what we do, they'll probably still be trying to kill eachother off in 1,000 years.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 07/26/2004 15:44 Comments || Top||

#9  Were we wrong to side with the Serbs? Not exactly, but we should have neutered the Kosavars before we let them back in power. The Serbs were in fact killing the Kosovars and trying to make room for Serbian refugees (from Croatia) in Kosovo. The Serbs thought nothing of displacing whole villages and repopulating them with refugees.
The Kosovars were 3rd class citizens in the eyes of the Serbs so if a refugee family needed a farm, they just told the Kosovars that they might farm better over there. Now the Kosovars put up with this for a long time until they started to rise up and started an Armed resistance to the policies of Belgrade. Which is to say they would go to a village or farm that used to be Kosovar and kill a few (or all) the people and terrorize those left over.
Since Belgrade had forces tied down in Bosnia they could only send a token force down to Kosovo to protect ethnic Serbs. Of course the Serb patrols would summarily execute anyone they suspected of being in or supporting the Kosovar Liberation Army (KLA). Being a male and over age 12 was good enough to make you a suspect. When the Serb Army left Bosnia (under NATO Supervision) the Serbs just redeployed them to Kosovo to crush the KLA once and for all. It was at this point that the Arabs started to raise a stink about the treatment of their peaceful brethren in Kosovo. Also there were a LARGE amount of Arab fighters in Bosnia and Kosovo and they were also being killed by the Serbs.
Well we bombed the Serbs, they left Kosovo, and the KLA was back to practice the Islamic version of ethnic cleansing. This is opposed to the Serbian variety of ethnic Cleansing or the Croatian model. The KLA was financed by most of your Islamofacists organizations and the local Albanian mob/drug dealers. We disarmed the Serbs in Kosovo and left the KLA structure in place. I think Clinton/Albright were figuring that the KLA would evolve into some sort of liberal government and police force. Mark my words, that is one dog that is going to come back to bite us. Much like the time we allowed Arafat to become a
?legitimate? leader.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 07/26/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||

#10  As long as American interests are set back, they are for it.

Wag The Dog!
Posted by: Secret Master || 07/26/2004 16:23 Comments || Top||

#11  The right of the Yugoslav republics to secede was enshrined in the Yugoslav constitution. If the Germans gave the "green light" to the Croats to secede, then good for them -- they gave them the green light to do what was in their right to do, especially since Serbs were going nationalistic and dominating on the other republics.

You remember the ethnic cleansing of the Krajna Serbs. But please do keep in mind that this followed the attempt of the Krajna Serbs to in turn secede from Croatia -- and not just that, but also the attempt of the Bosnian Serbs to ethnically cleanse the whole of Bosnia. Not to mention that in Bosnia more than ethnic cleansing occured -- it was genocide.

In those two wars -- in Croatia and in Bosnia -- all sides commited crimes, but the Serbs were in the clear WRONG, because it was clearly in the right that Croatia and Bosnia had the right to leave the federation.

In Kosovo, the situation is different. That war began with the attacks of the Albanian terrorists of the UCK, not just seeking to have their own nation (they already had Albania) but rather seeking to create a Greater Albania by means of terrorism, ethnic cleansing and in the end separationism. Kosovo did *not* have the right to secede.

In short the way that the Serbs acted in Croatia and Bosnia (trying to build a Greater Serbia through ethnic cleansing, tearing apart other nations), now the Albanians were doing in Serbia.

And the Serbs reacted to the Albanians of Kosovo, the way that the Croats reacted to the Serbs in Krajna -- through their own attempt at ethnic cleansing.

If they had been let alone, if no bombings had occured, then hundreds of thousands of people would have lost their homes, same as in Krajna... But it wouldn't be genocide. They'd find homes in neighbouring Albania. Albanians already had their own nation. It would be a sad end to the history of Kosovar Albanians, but it would also have been the end of Albanian imperialism -- same way that the expulsion of the Krajna Serbs was an end to Serb expansionism against Croatia. Worse things have happened in human history than Serbs being forced to go to Serbia or Albanians being forced to go to Albania.

And when you wrongly begin a war, you often end up losing territory. Both Krajnan Serbs and Kosovar Albanians were in the wrong when they began the war.

But the bombings happened -- and Albanian expansionism thrives. It tore apart FYRO Macedonia, since now the Albanian separationists of *that* nation also want to ethnically cleanse a territory and then break it away towards the creation of Greater Albania.

One of the problem with the Balkans is that it's been a game between regional powers that are themselves played (and inconsistently at that) by global superpowers.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/26/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||

#12  AK: One of the problem with the Balkans is that it's been a game between regional powers that are themselves played (and inconsistently at that) by global superpowers.

Actually, I don't think there is any common ground between the American intervention vs all of the other things that have affected Yugoslavia's history. We were disinterested observers looking to right what we thought was a wrong. It appears that we misread the situation, and the Serbs and the Macedonians are now paying the price. Would Bob Dole have intervened in Kosovo? I suspect not - being a WWII veteran, he would have been conscious of Serbia's contribution towards tying German divisions down in Yugoslavia - at great cost to themselves. Not only was Serbia an ally during WWII, it kept clear of the Soviet orbit throughout the Cold War - ensuring that this flank of the Balkans was at least secure.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/26/2004 17:25 Comments || Top||

#13  I will now give you my person theory on way we have ethnic strife in various parts of the world. Religion has nothing what so ever to do with it. Religion only spices up the debate. 5,000 years ago somebody stole somebody elses goat. Pure and simple and they have been at each others throats since
Posted by: cheaderhead || 07/26/2004 18:14 Comments || Top||

#14  Good Lord, how can a nation who threw away half its currency reserves on an Amway Scheme cause so much trouble?

Ahhh... I being redundant.
Aris are you interested in making a little extra dough while buying discounted name brand products?
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 18:17 Comments || Top||

#15  That's some cold hard reasoning there Aris. Sounds pretty correct to me.
Posted by: Secret Master || 07/26/2004 19:57 Comments || Top||

#16  Actually, I don't think there is any common ground between the American intervention vs all of the other things that have affected Yugoslavia's history. We were disinterested observers looking to right what we thought was a wrong. It appears that we misread the situation, and the Serbs and the Macedonians are now paying the price.

Close. The reason for going into Kosovo was almost
the same as it was for going into Somalia. Plenty of visual imagery, followed by the resulting pressure to "do something". I suspect even Mr. Dole would have had to take some sort of action.

I'm not sure if it was a mis-read as an exercise in overly-extreme caution. Having been burned by mission-creep in Somalia and having to extend troop deployments to Bosnia, the pendulum swung to trying to avoid any involvement on the ground.

Hence, deployed helicopters that were grounded, patrols around the border, and campaign that practically consisted of nothing but aerial bombing. The State Department made it a very public point not to do anything that smacked of collaborating with KLA (UCK). Once the Serbs were stopped, that was the end of US involvement.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/26/2004 23:49 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Tight security for Arroyo speech
Security is tight in the Philippines as recently re-elected President Gloria Arroyo prepares to deliver the annual state-of-the-nation address. Police in Manila said they were expecting 20,000 people to join demonstrations. They said 6,000 officers backed by the military would guard Congress. Mrs Arroyo's main rival in presidential elections last May, Fernando Poe, has demanded a recount, and his supporters have threatened street protests.

The Philippines' participation in the war in Iraq and government policies have angered anti-war and anti-globalisation campaigners. Army chiefs have also warned that Islamist rebels in the country's south remain a threat despite government attempts to quash them. "Let us all be calm and have a successful [state of the nation address]," Metropolitan Manila police director Ricardo De Leon said on local radio. "We're there to protect everybody. We guarantee we will respect your rights, but as law enforcers we will prevent any forms of abuse."

Commentators say that in her speech Mrs Arroyo may play on her recent decision to pull troops out of Iraq early in response to a hostage crisis to illustrate a "Filipino First" theme. But they caution that she must balance that with the need to restore strained relations with the US - provider of large amounts of military aid.
I doubt that'll happen any time soon...
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 11:30:33 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What the hell does she have to worry about? The terrorists must love her now.
Posted by: Capt America || 07/26/2004 1:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Poor Gloria. She can't even hear the train that's gonna hit her little bandwagon...
Posted by: mojo || 07/26/2004 1:29 Comments || Top||

#3  #1 What the hell does she have to worry about?

There might be a few folks in the military who are pretty hacked off right now. At least, I hope so. This is a Spain stain upon the Philippines' civilian and military honor.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/26/2004 2:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh yeah, the military has had it with her!
The hostage situation may be the straw.

I also tend to think most of the citizens won't take kindly to being sold out to Islamists. When they start thinking about all the OFW's that she has let rot in Islamic countries, who were(and are being) abused, raped, and driven to suicide, and now she plays it as if she is the champion for OFW's, the anger will build. It's already started. People will start asking why weren't you there for my daughter, or my mother or my father who was sent back from Saudi Arabia in a cardboard box?!
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/26/2004 3:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Really good points, TS(vg). Despite how the military has been pretty squirrely over the last year, the OFW issue is much stronger, only with Saudi Arabia at its core. The domestic terror groups will be emboldened by this craven act and only cause even more civilian deaths. All of this will land exactly where it should, squarely in Arroyo's lap.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/26/2004 3:50 Comments || Top||

#6  On second thought, this move may have pissed off the military in a very different way. I doubt any of the Philippine soldiers taken hostage while fighting the MILF or Abu Sayaf ever got ransomed off. Military personnel tend to resent being treated as disposable assets.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/26/2004 3:55 Comments || Top||

#7  Besides the early withdrawl they also paid 6 million dollars ransom. That should make a lot of Filipinos very tempting targets.
Posted by: Michael || 07/26/2004 11:40 Comments || Top||

#8  Arroyo still doesn't 'get' it. She said in her ' State of the [philippine] Nation' address that she sees no problem with withdrawing early to save one life against staying and showing that she will not be 'pushed around' by terrorists:

"When I opted to save Angelo de la Cruz, I was reflecting whether one life should be sacrificed for no pressing reason or saved by accelerating an ongoing pullout,” Mrs. Arroyo said.

“The difference of a few weeks for a pullout already decided on could not justify the sacrifice of a human life,” she added.

The President pointed out that sacrificing de la Cruz would have been a “pointless provocation,” especially since it would endanger the lives of more than 500,000 Filipinos working in the Middle East.


She also calls for budget reform, higher taxes, and a change in the consitution to go to a paramentary or federal government.

No mention of one of the major problems the Philippines face: Intrenched Government Corruption at all levels.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/26/2004 18:49 Comments || Top||


Pressure builds on Burma from all fronts
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan had Southeast Asia's premier diplomatic grouping in sight when he released a press statement on Burma, one of its member countries, at the sidelines of the just-concluded International Aids Conference. Annan's statement, released after he met Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, expressed concern about the slow progress in bringing democracy to the country and freeing opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi despite supposed efforts by the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) to bring about political change. Since the UN chief was in Thailand for the 15th International Aids Conference, which ended on July 16, and in the proximity of Burma - it was an opportune moment for him to draw attention to the country ruled by a military government accused of gross human rights abuses, including the forcible relocation of civilians and the widespread use of forced labour.

Asean's members are Brunei, Burma, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam. Burma joined the club in 1997 despite misgivings by some governments and activists in and out of the region, but Asean countries said membership would allow their 'constructive engagement' policy to slowly encourage Rangoon to open up its political system. ”In his discussions with the Thai leaders, the secretary-general underscored the role and responsibility of the countries of the (Asean) region in helping to accelerate the process of democratisation and national reconciliation in Myanmar, beginning with the release of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi,'' said the UN statement. The statement added that the UN secretary-general stressed ”the need to engage constructively'' with Burma's ruling junta, called the State Peace and Development Council.
More of the same blah-blah. Burma's been run by the generals since about the time Caesar got drafted. Kofi's nattering isn't going to change things. For one thing, his attention span isn't long enough. For another, he doesn't really see anything wrong with a military junta running things...
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 11:47:18 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Car me. I still have my old plans for that part of the sphere. Perhaps the one know to you as Frank G can be persuaded to herp.
Posted by: Sessue Hayakawa || 07/26/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Until China decides to stop supporting the generals the Junta will remain in power and Burma will remain Myanmar. Doesn't matter what the other neighbors think or say, they won't act because of China.
Posted by: yank || 07/26/2004 10:30 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Shot by referee kills soccer coach

Monday, July 26, 2004 Posted: 9:37 AM EDT (1337 GMT)

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (Reuters) -- A South African soccer referee pulled a gun and shot dead a coach who questioned one of his rulings, police said. Inspector Mali Govender of the Grahamstown police in the Eastern Cape province said a fight broke out after the referee gave a yellow warning card to a player in a local match on Saturday.
"My rulings are [BANG!] final."
"There was an altercation... and the referee became threatened when the other team approached him because they were angry," Govender said. "So he pulled out a gun and killed the coach of the visiting team." Govender said the coach died on the pitch while the referee fled the scene.
Sound military scragedy, decap the opposition's leadership and make off in the ensuing confusion.
Police were confident of making an arrest soon, she added. South Africa has one of the world's highest murder rates with an alarming 47.4 murders per 100,000 people, or eight times the figure for the United States.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/26/2004 5:08:50 PM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  By God now's that umpiring!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 21:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Guess he decided to switch to a red card, after all.
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 21:37 Comments || Top||

#3  These sudden death overtimes are always the most exciting.
Posted by: ed || 07/26/2004 22:06 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraq beats Saudi Arabia... again
Gol!!!
Posted by: someone || 07/26/2004 7:34:33 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lol! Oh baby, this is bigger than big in SaoodiLand. You have to see games to appreciate how big such matches are - and how much it inflates or deflates the ego of the masses - not to mention the princely size of the side bets, heh. Some Saudi coaches and players are in big trouble.
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 20:22 Comments || Top||

#2  this in sweet news! :)
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/26/2004 21:16 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Mosque moves forward with effort to ban Morgantown woman
Efforts to ban a West Virginia woman working to improve Muslim women's rights from a mosque founded by her father 23 years ago are moving forward. Asra Nomani, a member of the Islamic Center in Morgantown, has been notified by e-mail that the mosque's executive committee has received a petition signed by 35 of 135 fellow members seeking her expulsion. The e-mail did not specify what the harmful actions and practices were, and repeated requests by Nomani for a copy of the petition, names of her accusers and charges against her have been rebuffed. Nomani says she takes the ban seriously but does not fear it because she hasn't done anything wrong. Nomani says a professor of Islamic law at the University of California at Los Angeles has agreed to help her with her case. The American Civil Liberities Union also is involved. The 38-year-old single mother is one of the founding members of Daughters of Hajar. Their goal is to fight for gender equality in worship. Nomani took a deep breath and her first steps in the fight last year by entering the front door of her mosque and praying on the main floor. Nomani says she's been told the effort to ban her will likely fail. But even if the panel votes against banning her, the mosque's Board of Trustees will make the final decision.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/26/2004 2:14:52 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Note to nomani: go with the Kevlar hijab.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/26/2004 14:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Why doesn't she and others who agree with her simply start another mosque?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 07/26/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Why doesn't she and others who agree with her simply start another mosque?

And so the Systah sect of Islam was born. Conflicts between Sunni and Shia were put aside as members from each united to stone the reviled "Splitter Systahs" and all suspected of sympathising with the new breakaway Systah'hud faction, which was deemed supremely heretical in fatwas issued by imams, worldwide. In a bloody period of battles, mostly fought between small groups and individuals, in a period that became known as the "Week of the Glorious Bloody Kitchen Sinks", half of all Muslims died. The victory was Pyrrhic, however. Islam became extinct within a lifetime.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/26/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#4  BD,

From your keyboard to God's ear...
Posted by: dreadnought || 07/26/2004 14:44 Comments || Top||

#5  dreadnought: hopefully not. I prefer a scenario where the Systahs issue their own fatwas declaring it haraam to engage in sexual relations with member of the other sects. Similar result.
Posted by: Bulldog || 07/26/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||

#6  The Islamic Laws of Perpetual Motion- (n.) A branch of physics discovered in the early 21st century, concerning cyclical, never-ending lawsuits over Islamic law versus the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Islam-grow up. Let people worship together.
Posted by: jules 187 || 07/26/2004 15:12 Comments || Top||

#7  why should she have to start a new mosque, and lose whatever is invested in land, building, books, and "good will" in the other one? As someone who's actually participated in founding a new Synagogue, I can tell you this sort of thing isnt all that easy, and in a town as small as Morgantown, where its probably hard to get the critical mass for a Mosque, it makes perfect sense for her to fight to keep HER mosque.

Please see upcoming disputes over PECUSA assets:)
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 07/26/2004 15:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Bulldog--LOL--Great stuff, keep it up!

Wonder what the Systahs think of the 72 raisins clause?
Posted by: Dar || 07/26/2004 15:32 Comments || Top||

#9  35 out of 135?! No wonder they hate democracy!
Posted by: Anonymous5901 || 07/26/2004 16:46 Comments || Top||

#10  In the face of the hardcore Islamists, the Muslim Sheeple are expected to fold - and never seem to fail to disappoint. Nomani has already staked out a dissenting position via the wymyn's rights thing - so she will, if form holds, end up alone and thus out. The moskkk, as all in the West, is "run" by an association, she has no more "say" in the matter than any other member. Enlisting the aid of outsiders, Islamic or not, will further isolate her opinions. If she wins, the moskkk will be cut off from the Wahhabi money pipeline. IMHO, the Trustees will correct any error made by the panel as Shari'a will rule in the end - and she's definitely on the wrong side of that... walking in the front door and praying alongside the myn - how dare she!

I hope some follow-up becomes available. This could be one of the seeds that actually does offer the hope of creating the environment capable of producing a Moderate Muslim or two. *fingers crossed*
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 20:35 Comments || Top||

#11  I can see this one coming. Tonight on Lifetime: "Honor Killing".
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/26/2004 23:15 Comments || Top||

#12  In another article she is quoted saying "young arab students preaching hate" have taken over her mosque. I wonder where they came from? It was on Drudge but the link is gone.
Posted by: FlameBait93268 || 07/26/2004 23:29 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Battle over India's marriage age
A conservative Muslim body in India has gone to the High Court to challenge the legal age of marriage, which currently stands at 18. The All-India Muslim Personal Law Board insists that in family matters the country's Muslims should be subject only to Islamic law, known as Sharia.
I wonder if Canuckistan has taken that little fact into account?
It maintains that it is supported by a 1937 act upholding Muslims' right to be guided by this law. The debate has arisen because of a family who have been threatened with arrest because they allowed the marriage of an under-age girl. Fatima Mehjabin and her husband Muazzamil dote on their four year-old son, Fazal, along with his little brother and sister. But the very basis for their marriage is now being questioned in court because when they were wed five years ago, Fatima was 17 - one year under the limit set by Indian civil law.
Have they considered remarrying? No... That would be too simple...
Fatima says: "Muslim personal law says you can marry at 12, so I didn't see a problem with it. There are lots of bad things in society these days, so the sooner a girl gets married, the better."
"Preferably to a close relative, of course."

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: tipper || 07/26/2004 11:23:30 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Coming soon to a State Supreme Court near you!

Anyone know how old the husband is? Sounds like he may be in his late 20's or 30's....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/26/2004 12:05 Comments || Top||

#2  It would be really interesting to find some statistical correlation between age of consent, and say, gross domestic product, income per capita, literacy, or whatnot.
India is pretty poor, but generally well educated. Its age of consent is set above other emancipated Third World countries of the Commonwealth, like the 14yr limit in Canada.
On the other hand, some American States have incongruously low age of consent laws---in the 16 year range; but there isn't any immediate danger of that mixing with Sharia law.
Makes me wonder what's going to happen in Canada once Sharia shows its effects in the east---legally enforceable contracts with 14 year olds. Great.
Posted by: Asedwich || 07/26/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Asedwich, from the ages of 10 to about 14 I conspired to move to Alabama not so much for the age limit as for the limits of consangrity (?) fust cousins allowed! :)
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Lol Shipman! That must'ave been one hot cuz!
Posted by: Asedwich || 07/26/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Hell, I still it would have worked. ;)
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 13:35 Comments || Top||

#6  Well, my paternal grandmother was born in December, 1895, and my dad was born in April, 1911. His youngest sister was born in December,1939 (same mother). Grandma died in May, 1982, with 35 grandchildren, 56 great-grandchildren, and 7 great-great-grandchildren. This was NOT uncommon for southern/midwestern farm families of the 1800's and early 1900's - marry early, have lots of children, and "live long and prosper". Farm machinery replaced manpower, wealth allowed people to have fewer children, and the "age of consent" has risen higher and higher. It shouldn't be a surprise that the one area of earth where the least amount of advancement has occurred in other areas is also the area where the least advancement in social development has occurred. Shaira law is an anchor around the neck of the Islamic community, and the sooner they realize it the sooner they'll finally crawl out from under that 13th century stone they live under.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 07/26/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#7  Rather than trying to stop teens from marrying (since teens marry in many parts of the world-stopping it is too gargantuan a task), I would rather see a focus on putting a stop to arranged marriages.
Posted by: jules 2 || 07/26/2004 20:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Iowa first lady slammed blacks, Easterners and Southerners as bad speakers
Iowa First Lady Christie Vilsack, a key factor in John Kerry's primary sweep and the primetime convention speaker tomorrow, has derided blacks, southerners and easterners as bad speakers because she couldn't understand them.

 In inflammatory columns for her local newspaper obtained by the Herald, the normally soft-spoken Vilsack tore into several minority and ethnic groups while lampooning non-midwesterners for regional dialects. ``I am fascinated at the way some African-Americans speak to each other in an English I struggle to understand, then switch to standard English when the situation requires,'' Vilsack wrote in a 1994 column in the Mount Pleasant News, while her husband, Tom, was a state senator.

Vilsack wrote that southerners seem to have ``slurred speech,'' wrote that she'd rather learn Polish than try to speak like people from New Jersey, and wrote that a West Virginian waitress once offered her friend a ``side saddle'' instead of a ``side salad.''

The future Iowa first lady seemed to be promoting English as the nation's official language, an issue that tripped up her husband, Gov. Tom Vilsack, with many Democrats.

A Kerry campaign spokesman dismissed the quotes as ``ancient clips'' and referred questions to the Democratic National Convention Committee. The DNCC wouldn't say whether the comments match the convention platform or theme.
"They're on to us! Order up another round of Bush-bashing!"
Posted by: Steve White || 07/26/2004 11:08:23 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...a West Virginian waitress once offered her friend a ``side saddle'' instead of a ``side salad.''

Huh. From the Texas Land & Cattle website:

Wood Fired Steaks are served with your choice of House Salad, Caesar Salad or Wedge Salad and any Side Saddle.

Stupidy dumb Texans!
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 07/26/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Ahhh, nothing says "Party of the Common Man" like gratuitous slams against ones speech.
Posted by: BH || 07/26/2004 12:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm not maybe not talk good, but Florida's got more electro votes than Iowa got elementary sckools!
so HA!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 12:17 Comments || Top||

#4  The Dems and the Pubs would both have better chances if they'd learn to stop this regional bashing. When the Dems were still deciding on a candidate, I saw a few news articles blasting Iowans specifically and Midwesterners generally for not being up to snuff to decide a candidate for the rest of the nation. Nixing someone because of their regional roots rather than their weak ideas is foolish.

Posted by: jules 187 || 07/26/2004 12:49 Comments || Top||

#5  Her snobbery and arrogance come from her focus on regions and race. Plenty of whites from Iowa mangle English. I spent six weeks in Ames one summer 10 years ago. Ubetcha.
Posted by: Michael || 07/26/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#6  this isa piss me off! im in rite her leter! >:(
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/26/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#7  "The Dems and the Pubs would both have better chances if they'd learn to stop this regional bashing."

Except for the Samoans. And the Irish, of course... And the Swedes...
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 13:28 Comments || Top||

#8  ``I am fascinated at the way some African-Americans speak to each other in an English I struggle to understand, then switch to standard English when the situation requires,''

Don't be dissin' my niggaz, bitch.
Posted by: 50 Cent || 07/26/2004 13:38 Comments || Top||

#9  Having lived and worked in NC for 5 years, I might/can help her with understanding non-Midwesterners.
Super Hose - closetted Army of Steve member originally hailing from Hudson, Ohio.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/26/2004 14:10 Comments || Top||

#10  SH - How long did it take for you to figure out our southern friends were asking if you wanted 'ice' in that cup? ;)
Posted by: Doc8404 || 07/26/2004 14:18 Comments || Top||

#11  she'd rather learn Polish than try to speak like people from New Jersey

It takes a lifetime to learn how to properly mertalize the language in Joisey.
Most people speak Spanglish around here anyway.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 07/26/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||

#12  A couple of very interesting comments on this story from Free Republic (the first is mine):

As another poster pointed out the other day, the typical Southern accent is an outgrowth of the Scots-Irish dialect[s] of English. It is actually much closer phonetically to the spoken language of Shakespeare than is the broad Midwestern accent which this lady, in her ignorance, apparently regards as the standard.

This can be seen in the relative ease with which actors transition from one to the other. Think of Vivien Leigh in Gone with the Wind. It also works the other way 'round.
A striking example would be John Hillerman, a native of Dennison Texas who played the upright English major-domo Higgins on Magnum PI. Hillerman sometimes played Higgins' Texan cousin Jim Bob during the series. Jim Bob's Texas drawl is in fact Hillerman's natural speach, while Higgins' pseudo-Oxonian is a put-on."


Then this from Wallace T:
A major, if not predominant, factor in much of the Midwest is the large German influence in the region, combined with Dutch, Swiss, Alsatians, and Austrians. People of German and other Central European descent are the largest single ethnic group in a wide swath of the country stretching from south central Pennsylvania westward to Montana and western Nebraska. People of British descent are in the majority mainly in the southernmost counties of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, as well as much of Missouri and Kansas. (Most of these areas were settled by Virginians, Kentuckians, and other Southerners.) Minnesota, parts of Wisconsin, and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan have a strong influence of Scandinavians. The old Rust Belt cities from Pittsburgh to Milwaukee, as well as St. Louis and Kansas City, also have high concentrations of white, non-German Catholics, much like their East Coast counterparts from Portland, Maine, to Baltimore. Chicago and Detroit also have large Eastern European Jewish settlements.
I would include in the overall Midwest definition those parts of Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado east of the Front Range, as well as western Pennsylvania and northern West Virginia due to the similarities in economy, population, and language to their Midwestern neighbors. I would exclude Oklahoma due to the predominantly Southern influence on that state.

Certain Midwestern distinctives, like the hard "r", may reflect the Germanic roots of much of the region's population. Regarding Gone With the Wind, it is worthy to note that Clark Gable, a native of Cadiz, Ohio, and partially of German ancestry, did not even attempt to sound Southern. During the Golden Age of movies, a large number of actors from mid-America did not try to sound Southern, even when their roles called for a drawl: John Wayne (Iowa and California); James Stewart (western Pennsylvania); Gary Cooper (Montana). OTOH, in the recent movie Cold Mountain, only one of the lead actors (Renee Zellweger) was from the South. Nicole Kidman (Australian), Donald Sutherland (Nova Scotian), and Jude Law (English) all delivered competent Southern accents.


So it would appear that it is the Midwesterners who are mangling the King's English, not the Anglo-Scots-Irish Southerners and the Africans who learned English from them in the first place.








Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/26/2004 15:23 Comments || Top||

#13  A useful translation of the article on the English-challenged Ms. Vilsack's diatribe in favor of Euro-Germanic linguistic subversion:

According to Snoop Dog and Tha Shizzolator....

Say what? Iowa first ho slammed blacks, Easterners 'n Southerners as bad speakers
Boston Herald ^ | July 26, 2004 | David R. Guarino


Posted on 07/26/2004 7:40:49 AM PDT by HalfFull


Iowa First Lady Christie Vilsack, a key factor in John Kerry's primary sweep 'n da primetime convention speaker tomorrow, has derided blacks, southerners 'n easterners as bad speakers because brizzle couldn't understand 'em, know what I'm sayin'?

In inflammatory columns fo' her local newspaper obtained by da Herald, da normally soft-spoken Vilsack tore into several minority 'n ethnic groups while lampooning non-midwesterners fo' regional dialects n' shit.

``I am fascinated at da way some African-Americans speak each other in an English I struggle understand, then switch standard English when da situation requires,'' Vilsack wrote in a 1994 column in da Mount Pleasant Informative Shiznit, while her husband, Tom, wuz a state senator n' shit.

Excerpted - click fo' full article ^
Source: http://news.bostonherald.com/dncConvention/view.bg?articleid=37171


Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/26/2004 15:44 Comments || Top||

#14  A Kerry campaign spokesman dismissed the quotes as ``ancient clips'' and referred questions to the Democratic National Convention Committee. The DNCC wouldn't say whether the comments match the convention platform or theme.

Gawd, that's funny right like it is. Nevermind asking for the equally ancient clips of Mrs. Vilsack apologizing. I'm sure they MUST have that somewhere. Back there... anyone...Buehler...

Posted by: eLarson || 07/26/2004 15:52 Comments || Top||

#15  As a South Alabaman living in Boston I took my share of jibes but I also gave them out. I found most people in Boston, once they got to know you a little, to be very nice people. The only problem I and my fellow Southern Gentlemen seemed to have was when we would go to a pub and a lot of the women would come sit near us and ask questions just to hear us talk. It really pissed off the local males. The women got pissed off at the Southern women for the same reason. We enjoyed the hell out of it.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/26/2004 20:36 Comments || Top||

#16  DB - Now I understand the Blues you have, lol! Y'know, you can order good / real BBQ over the 'Net.

I had many similar experiences (born in Texas) cuz my mother was like a ping-pong ball - I went to 13 diff schools in 12 yrs of public school. When she dragged our little flock up to Utah & Colo and Western locales, I had to fight almost every day for the first month in each place - cuz the girls loved the accent, thus the boys didn't. I learned quickly to just pick out the biggest (or toughest, by reputation) one and fight him, then the rest would leave me alone. Call me Abu Homeless, lol!
Posted by: .com || 07/26/2004 20:45 Comments || Top||

#17  Doc8404, I never did - I just shook my head in a circle signifying a non-committal response.Please inform me.

They should sell guide books of the south that clues the rest of us in. I especially had trouble following directions that included "historic" landmarks (ones that existed only in history i.e. "turn left where Juniors's Store used to be.")
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/27/2004 0:54 Comments || Top||


Central Asia
Turkmenbashi waxes lyrical
The leader of Turkmenistan has shown another side to his talents - by revealing himself as a poet.
"... and don't know it.
He's got big feet.
They're Longfellows."
President Saparmurat Niyavoz used a recent public holiday to regale the nation with a work of his own - The New Turkmen Spirit. Mr Niyazov, whose initiatives include renaming months of the year after himself, left no doubt about the spirit's identity: him.
"L'etat, c'est moi, and not youse!"
The poem expresses his devotion to the nation, but warns against dissent. "I am the Turkmen spirit, reborn to bring you a golden age," the poem begins. It goes on to echo a favourite theme of Mr Niyazov, who likes to be known as Turkmenbashi, or leader of the Turkmen - that he protects and sacrifices himself for his people. "I do not spare myself for you, for I am devoted to you all," he promises, adding, "I am your saviour."
"Widdout me, yer nuttin'! Nuttin', I tells yez!"
The president has shown his devotion to the smallest detail of his people's lives. Mr Niyazov banned smoking in public places after he was ordered to give up the habit following heart surgery in 1997. Earlier this year, he passed a decree forbidding young men to wear long hair or beards, and ordered a young woman to have her gold teeth replaced with white ones. The promise to be his people's saviour applies only to those who "are still faithful to me".
Why save somebody who doesn't like you?
"While cherishing my allies, I am desperate to fight my enemies," Mr Niyazov declares. This may be no idle boast. Following an alleged assassination attempt in November 2002, Mr Niyazov launched a crackdown in which more than 40 opposition activists, including a former foreign minister, were jailed. "My sight is sharp - I see everything," warns the leader, who earlier this year ordered the government to intensify video surveillance to "let us know if a fly quietly buzzes past". Or, in the words of the poem: "If you are honest in your deeds, I see this; if you commit wrongdoing, I see that too."
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 11:16:27 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I love the Turkmenbashi. He's so freakin' entertaining. If you're going to be a tinpot dictator, do it right.

Halk Watan Turkmenbashi!

Posted by: Gromky || 07/26/2004 3:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take

I'll be watching you
Posted by: Steve || 07/26/2004 9:01 Comments || Top||

#3  All Hail Me!
I'm Niyazov!
If you don't like me
Your head goes off.

Put this in the Classix!
Posted by: Korora || 07/26/2004 9:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Roses are red
violets are purple
sugar are sweet,
please hand me the mustache wax
Posted by: Shipman || 07/26/2004 9:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Gee, maybe Turkmenbashi and Saddam could get together for a poetry slam next time it's "Open Mic Night" down at Abu Sayf's Teahouse 'n' Terror Shoppe.
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/26/2004 10:32 Comments || Top||

#6  "I call this poem 'Ode to Myself.'"
Posted by: Mike || 07/26/2004 10:39 Comments || Top||

#7  "Take a long lazy swim in Lake Me
Turkmenbashi as far as you see
My calendar's custom
My statues? Adjust 'em
And my hair is less poofy than Kimmie"
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/26/2004 10:55 Comments || Top||

#8  Yes, but can he golf? Or is that next weeks headline on "Dateline: Turkmenistan"?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/26/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#9  This was dedicated to Saddam during OIF:)

(To the tune of Arabian Nights from Disney's Aladdin :

Oh I come from a land
A far away place
Where A-10s in kill boxes roam
Where we gas moms and babes then we kick in their face
It's barbaric, but hey, it's home!

With JDAMs from the east
And SLCMs from the west
And Stealth bombers, oh what a sight
Come on down, stop on by
Take cover or die -
On another Iraqian Night!

Iraqian Niiiiiights
Like Iraqian Days
More likely than not
You'll probably get shot
Cause terror don't pay

Iraqian Niiiiiights
Like Iraqian Moons
I've got to run hard
Cause I can't trust my Guard
When they hear those kabooms....

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 07/26/2004 11:53 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Chuck's asylum case set to resume
A court in Nigeria's capital is set to resume preliminary hearings in a case against the former Liberian president. Charles Taylor has been in exile in south-east Nigeria since last August, after its government gave him asylum. The prosecution want Mr Taylor's asylum to be lifted so that he can face charges of war crimes against humanity in the UN-backed Sierra Leone tribunal. The tribunal accuses him of supporting the RUF rebel movement in return for a share of Sierra Leone's diamond wealth. The case in Abuja is brought by two Nigerian businessmen who travelled to Sierra Leone in 1999, and say that while they were there they were mutilated by rebels of the Revolutionary United Front. Emmanuel Egbuna had both his hands severed at the wrist, while David Anyaele lost his arms and was then set alight. The men claim the rebels were acting on the orders of then Liberian president Mr Taylor.

Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo granted Mr Taylor asylum last year on the condition that he does not involve himself in the peace process in Liberia, but the lawyers for the two men are challenging the legitimacy of the move. Mr Taylor has been living in exile with family and friends in the quiet Nigerian town of Calabar since last year, and the Nigerian government has so far resisted local and international pressure to hand him over to the war crimes tribunal.
Posted by: Fred || 07/26/2004 11:27:04 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I would call for diplomatic pressure on Nigeria, if I didn't think they did everyone involved a big favour by taking Chuckles on as a lodger,
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/26/2004 1:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Agreed. Nigeria is doing the right thing by not handing over this villain. When you want to get a dictator to leave peacefully, he needs to trust the country giving him asylum--he needs to know he won't get justice. Sickening, but unavoidable . . .
Posted by: James || 07/26/2004 16:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Can't we just arrange for Taylor to like, ya know, die or something?
Posted by: Zenster || 07/26/2004 19:18 Comments || Top||



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