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2004-07-26 Britain

Shake-up in Special Boat Service over claims it 'panicked and fled' in Iraq

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Posted by Bulldog 2004-07-26 7:33:40 AM|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 And the Bravo Two Zero debacle (GW1) couldn't be viewed similarly?

Posted by Howard UK 2004-07-26 9:13:21 AM|| 2004-07-26 9:13:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 And the Bravo Two Zero debacle (GW1) couldn't be viewed similarly?

Not really. B20 had no weapons heavy enough to engage the enemy in serious strength. They didn't have vehicles, either. Theirs was meant to be a low-key surveillance mission, not a combat-capable patrol like this SBS one.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-07-26 9:26:52 AM|| 2004-07-26 9:26:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 were intruding on its remit. It is thought that the SBS has been lobbying to be granted a "30km insertion capability" that

And there you have it.
We inheirit a lot from the British. :)

Posted by Shipman 2004-07-26 9:32:47 AM|| 2004-07-26 9:32:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 SBS were good enough to send into Afghanistan first - looks like a game of military handbags to me.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-07-26 10:10:38 AM|| 2004-07-26 10:10:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I blame Paddy Pantsdown, personally. What a disgrace to the regiment...

Posted by Bulldog 2004-07-26 10:27:00 AM|| 2004-07-26 10:27:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Aye, utter cock.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-07-26 10:29:10 AM|| 2004-07-26 10:29:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Not that I know that much about these groups but wouldn't this be like having Army Rangers train the Navy SEALS? WTH is a 'Pinky' and why didn't they call in airstrikes to destroy it when it was left behind? I don't think I would want a nickname of 'Shakies' for a fighting force.

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-07-26 10:30:53 AM|| 2004-07-26 10:30:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 If I recall correctly there was a blue-on-blue shoot-out between the SAS and the SBS during one part of the Falklands campaign, in terrible weather.

Posted by Matt 2004-07-26 10:58:34 AM|| 2004-07-26 10:58:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Really? Do tell.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-07-26 11:23:01 AM|| 2004-07-26 11:23:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 That's my distant recollection of The Battle for the Falklands by Max Hastings and (someone else whose name I don't recall.)

Posted by Matt 2004-07-26 11:28:08 AM|| 2004-07-26 11:28:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Ten-four.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-07-26 11:41:44 AM|| 2004-07-26 11:41:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Cyber Sarge, a "Pinky" is an outfitted Land Rover for the SAS they use for long range desert patrols. Their paint is a funny shade of pink, hence, "Pinky" or occasionally "Pink Panthers"

Posted by TopMac 2004-07-26 12:37:26 PM|| 2004-07-26 12:37:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanks TopMac. Must be for camo puposes. Hate to think it has anything to do with orientation!

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-07-26 1:25:39 PM|| 2004-07-26 1:25:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 'Pinkies' emerged as the very first SAS vehicles used also by the LRDG (Long Range Desert Group) back in WWII. Though they weren't Land Rovers back then, of course. Initially, they were driven by the LRDG to rendezvous with and collect the SAS, who had parachuted in to attack German air bases at night. The tactic quickly changed to using the 'pinkies' as delivery, attack and escape vehicles - hence the A (for 'Air') of the SAS's name becoming redundant very early on. The pink colour was chosen to camouflage the vehicles against the North African desert. I think the 'pinkies' have sentimental and symbolic value as much as practical value - they are the definitive SAS vehicle, and to have the SBS borrow and then surrender one of them is just about the worst thing they could do...

Posted by Bulldog 2004-07-26 2:16:16 PM|| 2004-07-26 2:16:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 anyone know John Arthy -Sgt- in 22. died during the falklands war

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