Hi there, !
Today Tue 02/20/2007 Mon 02/19/2007 Sun 02/18/2007 Sat 02/17/2007 Fri 02/16/2007 Thu 02/15/2007 Wed 02/14/2007 Archives
Rantburg
533597 articles and 1861729 comments are archived on Rantburg.

Today: 76 articles and 309 comments as of 17:29.
Post a news link    Post your own article   
Area: WoT Operations    Non-WoT    Opinion    Local News       
Algeria: Police kill 26 bad boyz, arrest 35 after attacks
Today's Headlines
Headline Comments [Views]
Page 2: WoT Background
7 00:00 3dc [5] 
3 00:00 Anguper Hupomosing9418 [4] 
19 00:00 Anguper Hupomosing9418 [4] 
3 00:00 Anguper Hupomosing9418 [4] 
5 00:00 Anguper Hupomosing9418 [6] 
3 00:00 Frank G [5] 
8 00:00 Chuck Simmins [6] 
1 00:00 gromgoru [6] 
4 00:00 Anonymoose [10] 
2 00:00 Old Patriot [8] 
9 00:00 Anguper Hupomosing9418 [8] 
2 00:00 Icerigger [4] 
0 [6] 
0 [8] 
0 [4] 
0 [9] 
19 00:00 trailing wife [5] 
2 00:00 Shark [8] 
0 [8] 
1 00:00 gorb [5] 
1 00:00 Frank G [4] 
5 00:00 anymouse [4] 
4 00:00 Frank Hupomosing9418 [8] 
Page 1: WoT Operations
2 00:00 crazyhorse [8]
11 00:00 Old Patriot [6]
0 [8]
2 00:00 Shipman [4]
5 00:00 whatadeal [7]
2 00:00 Shipman [8]
4 00:00 Croque Angomosing7170 [4]
12 00:00 trailing wife [4]
1 00:00 Shipman [4]
0 [4]
0 [8]
0 [8]
0 [8]
0 [6]
0 [5]
0 [5]
6 00:00 Steve White [4]
2 00:00 Frank G [4]
0 [10]
3 00:00 USN, ret. [4]
6 00:00 Frank G [8]
0 [6]
0 [8]
Page 3: Non-WoT
12 00:00 RWV [4]
7 00:00 Shipman [4]
5 00:00 anonymous5089 [4]
13 00:00 Shieldwolf [4]
9 00:00 SteveS [5]
10 00:00 3dc [7]
21 00:00 WolfDog [7]
6 00:00 DMFD [4]
0 [4]
0 [4]
5 00:00 USN, ret. [7]
Page 4: Opinion
2 00:00 trailing wife [4]
7 00:00 trailing wife [6]
0 [10]
2 00:00 Steve White [4]
7 00:00 Slatle Whavitch3291 [4]
0 [4]
7 00:00 Kalle (kafir forever) [5]
0 [4]
10 00:00 49 Pan [5]
0 [5]
5 00:00 Procopius2k [5]
3 00:00 Icerigger [11]
Page 5: Russia-Former Soviet Union
3 00:00 USN, ret. [5]
7 00:00 Deacon Blues [4]
2 00:00 Redneck Jim [4]
0 [4]
1 00:00 Skidmark [10]
9 00:00 Anonymoose [4]
2 00:00 Kent Brockman [4]
Africa Subsaharan
Mbeki calls for end to Palestinian sanctions
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 02/17/2007 10:52 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/17/2007 12:55 Comments || Top||

#2  I call for an end to stupid statements by Mbeki.
Posted by: Brett || 02/17/2007 13:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Brett - but then he'd have nothing to say!
Posted by: DMFD || 02/17/2007 13:48 Comments || Top||

#4  We'll keep the sanctions.
Mbeki can bankroll them instead...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/17/2007 15:04 Comments || Top||

#5  What OP sed.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/17/2007 17:37 Comments || Top||

#6  He's not stupid, he's a racist AND a commie.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 02/17/2007 18:14 Comments || Top||

#7  As a president of the country with the highest violent crime rate in the world and one of the largest AIDS outbreaks - why is he wasting time worrying about Paleos? He his bigger jobs to tackle.
Posted by: 3dc || 02/17/2007 21:56 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Saudis to purchase nuclear option, advanced missiles and spy satellites off the shelf from Pakis
Debka so assume Salt
Moscow will assist in Saudi development of a civilian nuclear program and build six “research satellites” for the oil kingdom. Gulf intelligence sources report this was agreed in the talks held in Riyadh earlier this week by visiting Russian president Vladimir Putin and King Abdullah. Israeli military sources report that Moscow in fact undertook to provide Saudi Arabia with half a dozen military surveillance satellites, launch them and set up ground control centers, thereby making the oil kingdom the first Middle East national with a multiple spy satellite capability for tracking the military movements of its neighbors, including Iran and Israel.
And by ensuring that Russian technicians and analysts run the whole thing, it means the Russians will have the first look at all the imaging.
This Saudi-Russian venture has Israel worried because it will enable Riyadh to pick up highly sensitive intelligence on its military movements and relay it to Egypt and the Palestinians.

This development confirms or previous disclosures that the Saudis do not intend wasting time developing their own military capabilities but are going shopping for finished products.

On Jan. 21, Saudi rulers favored visiting Pakistani president Gen. Pervez Musharraf with exception honors when he arrived at the outset of a tour of five Arab capitals. We described King Abdullah as personally welcoming the visitor and driving him in the royal convoy to a palace outside the capital where they were closeted alone for three hours. The king also conferred on the Pakistani ruler the King Abdul Aziz Award.

This ceremonial led up to an epic accord of 7 secret clauses on the terms in which Pakistan would make nuclear weapons available to, and sell, Saudi Arabia nuclear-capable missiles. Sources revealed that Musharraf undertook to make them available in the event of a nuclear emergency facing Saudi Arabia, the Gulf emirates, Egypt or Jordan. A mechanism was thus set up for Saudi Arabia to potentially beat Iran to the draw in acquiring a nuclear bomb, as well as controlling the security of its allies.
Posted by: 3dc || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Regional Muslim govts fear nuclear IRAN More than Israel or America.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/17/2007 0:07 Comments || Top||

#2  What am I supposed to do about that?
Posted by: Ehud Olmert || 02/17/2007 5:17 Comments || Top||

#3  epic accord of 7 secret clauses

Debka's new writer used to work at KFC.

Posted by: Shipman || 02/17/2007 8:28 Comments || Top||

#4  The Saudi purchase of a regiment of Al Khalid tanks (a Pak knockoff of a Chinese Knockoff of an old Soviet tank) points to something here.
Saudi has brand new M1A1 Abrams MBTs in storage and certainly doesn't need Pak junk.

The tanks are to equip a Pak brigade. Now the Paks have never won a war and a brigade cannot protect Saudi so why bear the expense ?

The Pak brigade is reportedly there to protect "strategic assets" located there - nuclear armed IRBMs (missiles sold to Pakistan by China and North Korea).

The Saudis paid for the Pak nuclear program and now want the deterrent on their soil.
Posted by: John Frum || 02/17/2007 8:56 Comments || Top||

#5  The Saudis are now getting the Cargo that they have always desired, Mr. Frum. And the Russians sell to both sides.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/17/2007 13:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Ooooh, Pakistani made nukes being maintained by Pakistani and Saudi technicians. Which way is the smart money betting: really expensive paperweights, or self-induced patches of glass?
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/17/2007 15:37 Comments || Top||

#7  Don't know Trailing but my first thought was, we are so going to get nuked.
Posted by: Icerigger || 02/17/2007 16:27 Comments || Top||

#8  That's the third option, Icerigger dear, but I'm really, really hoping the other smart players are voting for one of the other two.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/17/2007 21:22 Comments || Top||

#9  I guess if Iran nukes the oil fields of Saudi Arabia & Saudistan nukes the oil fields of Iran, the jihad will run out of money & thus significance rather quickly. The rest of us will have to get a horse & resume our ancestor's Amish lifestyles.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 21:31 Comments || Top||


Yemen Asks Libya To Extradite Brother Of Rebel Leader
Yemen has officially asked Libya to hand over a brother of a Shiite rebel leader whose followers are battling government forces in northern Yemen, the state news agency Saba reported Friday. The agency quoted official sources as saying that Yahya al-Houthi, a member of the parliament, would be put on trial soon after he is extradited from Libya for "his leading role in the strife" in the northern province of Saada, some 230 kilometres north of the capital Sana'a. Authorities would ask the parliament to strip the MP al-Houthi of his parliamentary immunity ahead of prosecuting him, said the agency.

The legislator left the country last year during battles in Saada between followers of the outlawed Shiite Believing Youth group that was founded by his elder brother, Hussein, who was killed in clashes with the army in September 2004. Bloody confrontations between Houthi's followers and the army have since left over 720 government troops dead, according to the official toll. Hundreds of rebels were also killed. Government forces launched last week a major assault on Shiite rebel positions in Saada, which borders Saudi Arabia, after weeks of tit-for-tat attacks.

Yahya is a member of the ruling General Peoples Congress headed by President Ali Abdullah Saleh and is widely seen as a moderate. His younger brother, Abdul-Malik, is now leading remnants of the armed group. Saleh has accused Houthi's followers of trying to topple the republican regime and establish an Islamic state, saying that "foreign parties" have been supporting them. Local media reports have recently quoted government officials as accusing Iran and Libya of financing the rebels.
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Over 100 Africans drown as smuggling boat capsizes
(Xinhua) -- More than 100 Somali and Ethiopian migrants drowned off the coast of Yemen after a smuggler's boat capsized earlier this week in the Gulf of Aden, the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) said on Friday. The Geneva-based agency said 107 bodies had been found along a remote stretch of the Yemen coastline after one out of four smuggler's boats approaching the coastline capsized far from the shore on Monday. Survivors said at least five people remain missing.

According to witnesses, the capsized smuggler's boat was carrying 120 Somalis and Ethiopians. After it overturned, a second smuggling vessel, also carrying 120 people, forced all its passengers into the sea, picked up the smugglers from the capsized vessel and headed back into the Gulf of Aden. The 240 people were left in the high seas. "The Somalis said they fled their homes during and following the end of recent hostilities between government forces and the Islamic Courts Union," UNHCR spokesman Ron Redmond told reporters in Geneva.
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  fled huh? So they didn't support the anti-Islamists? My sympathy meter's not working. Hope the sharks ate well
Posted by: Frank G || 02/17/2007 7:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Aloha snackbar!
Posted by: Shark || 02/17/2007 10:43 Comments || Top||


Iran envoy Larijani visits Soddies for nuclear talks
Iran's top nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani visited Saudi Arabia for talks expected to cover Iran's nuclear energy program, which is opposed by the West and Saudi Arabia, Iranian media said, Reuters reported. Iran's official IRNA news agency quoted sources in Saudi Arabia as saying the aim of the visit was "to exchange views over Iran's nuclear issue and the recent changes in the region."
Perhaps a "frank exchange of views"?
"According to Saudi news sources, Larijani will also discuss the significant role of Iran and Saudi Arabia in resolving the Lebanese crisis as well as current developments in the Middle East region," it said.

Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said Larijani held talks on Lebanon with Prince Bandar bin Sultan, secretary-general of Saudi Arabia's National Security Council.
I see Bandar landed on his feet back home.
It quoted unnamed officials as saying the two sides expressed "satisfaction at the Saudi-Iranian rapprochement on a solution to the political crisis in Lebanon."

Conservative US-ally Saudi Arabia is worried that, exploiting the US failure to pacify Iraq, Iran is expanding its influence in the Arab world and encouraging radical forces opposed to a perceived political order in the region. Saudi Arabia has been developing contacts with Iran to try to help defuse sectarian tensions in Lebanon. Prince Bandar visited Tehran, Moscow and Paris last month after clashes between supporters of the Western and Saudi-backed Lebanese government and Iranian-backed opposition.

Larijani was in Riyadh last month for talks with Saudi officials which also covered Iran's role in Iraq, where Sunni bastion Saudi Arabia blames Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias for sectarian killings of Sunni Iraqis.

Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal said Iran and Saudi Arabia wanted to take action to stop the sectarian strife getting further out of control. "They (the Iranians) expressed recently their anxiety about possible efforts to divide the Muslim world between Sunnis and Shi'ites and this is something that we are anxious about," he said, referring to Larijani's visit last month. "We look forward to agreements and action on the ground to see what both countries can do to prevent it," he said. He made no reference to Larijani's unannounced visit.

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah told Larijani last month that Shi'ite power Iran was putting the Persian Gulf region in danger, in reference to Tehran's nuclear program and activities in Iraq that many fear could lead to a US war with Iran.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
Japan freezes assets related to Iran
This is Japan's new Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe. I could tell the press doesn't care for his viewpoints 'cos all the pix of him (in Yahoo photos) were unflattering, taken from odd angles, awkward poses, etc. Thank you, Mr. Prime Minister.
The Japanese government has decided to freeze the assets of 10 groups and 12 individuals related to Iran's nuclear and missile programmes, under a UN sanction resolution approved in December, AFP reported. "We must execute the measures with a determined will and resolve because (the Iranian nuclear problem) affects the nuclear non-proliferation regime and North Korea's nuclear problem," foreign minister Taro Aso told reporters after the cabinet approved the measures.

The cabinet of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe also decided to ban transfer of funds in connection with Iran's sensitive nuclear and ballistic missile programmes. The measures will become effective Saturday.

Japan, despite being a close US ally, has maintained close trade ties with Iran. Asia's largest economy is almost entirely dependent on the Middle East for its oil, and imports about 15% of its total oil consumption from Iran.

Last year, the UN Security Council unanimously approved a resolution imposing sanctions that target Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programmes. Aso called on Iran to stop its uranium enrichment activities and return to the negotiating table before and after the passage of the resolution.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Posted by: gorb || 02/17/2007 4:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Envoy: Korea critics should give own plan
The main U.S. envoy at the North Korea disarmament agreement said Friday that critics should put forth their own plan rather than simply criticize the one that was hammered out in Beijing this week. Christopher Hill, an assistant secretary of state who headed the U.S. delegation at the six-nation talks that led to the agreement, said some detractors think the U.S. shouldn't be negotiating at all with North Korea. John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said the agreement rewards North Korea for bad behavior.

"It behooves critics to come up with a plan of their own, and I haven't seen one," Hill told reporters after addressing students at Bowdoin College, where he graduated in 1974.

Under the deal, North Korea will close its main nuclear reactor, allow international inspections and begin accounting for other nuclear programs within 60 days. In return, it will receive 50,000 tons of heavy fuel oil, a down payment on a promised 1 million tons in oil or aid of a similar value if it ultimately disarms. The agreement is considered a breakthrough because North Korea has sidestepped previous attempts to have it disband its nuclear program.

The reason the negotiations succeeded while past attempts have failed was because there were several nations at the negotiating table, Hill said. "The big difference is we have brought different countries together, including China," Hill said. "So if (North Korea) walks away from this deal, they're walking away not just from the U.S. but from all of their neighbors. And that should offer us hope that this is the right approach."

The structure of the talks, with multiple countries negotiating together, could serve as a blueprint to resolve other problems in the region in the future, Hill said. While Europe has several multilateral agreements in place, eastern Asia has few, he said. "It offers some hope that we can develop some structure there," Hill said. "And since the U.S. is part of that, it offers hope that the U.S. can be a player there."
Posted by: ryuge || 02/17/2007 09:41 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The main U.S. envoy at the North Korea disarmament agreement said Friday that critics should put forth their own plan rather than simply criticize the one that was hammered out in Beijing this week.

Ok - Nuke'm till they glow.

Since the Chinese are afraid of a wave of refugees to match that overwhelming the American southern borders, since the South Koreans are afraid of economic bankruptcy if they have to fulfill their constant whining about reunification with their blood brothers, since the Japanese are working themselves into the mood to go nuclear, and since everyone else will do really nothing but talk while the cancer spreads hoping that something magically will alter the reality, just get the pain over with now.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/17/2007 12:42 Comments || Top||

#2  OK, Mr. Hill, your plan of giving Kimmie a bunch of oil for promises sucks the big one. I criticize, so here is a plan:

1. Kimmie and Co goes to Paris, France as exiles to live out their days.
2. The US, Chicoms, SKors, and Japan (in the background, so the Koreans don't wig out) work together to deal with the humanitarian mess Kimmie and Co left behind.
3. NORK becomes Chapter 11 under a bankruptcy trusteeship, consisting of countries in (2) above.
4. Dismantle all of NORK nuclear and missile facilities.
5. Work out an international plan to help to rebuild NORK for the benefit of their people.
6. Work out the political sh*t for the next 1000 years as a hobby.

If Kimmie and Co do not want to leave, surround Nork with enough firepower to turn it into a Roentgen Soupbowl if Kimmie launches missiles and threatens the US or Japan, and let the Chicoms supply all the oil and aid that Kimmie wants.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/17/2007 13:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Unless the Chicoms pull the leash on their pet Pit Bull, nothing productive will come of this. Why the world MSM makes a distinction between the NKors and the PRC is a mystery to me. Would add to Alaska Paul's suggestion, a blockade of the northern borders of NKor along with the demand that the ruling class of the country abdicate & leave. Until this occurs, no aid at all. The Chinese know perfectly well how to stop a human wave invasion. This would be the end of the Westphalian System if one believes that NKor is a sovereign state (it hasn't been since its predecessor collapsed in 1950 & the PRC starting propping it up).
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 14:33 Comments || Top||


Rep Sam Johnson's (R-TX) Speech Opposing Non-Binding Reso
The Anti-Murtha, caught via Capt Ed and Gary Gross
"You know, I flew 62 combat missions in the Korean War and 25 missions in the Vietnam War before being shot down.

I had the privilege of serving in the United States Air Force for 29 years, attending the prestigious National War College, and commanding two air bases, among other things.

I mention these stories because I view the debate on the floor not just as a U.S. Congressman elected to serve the good people of the Third District in Texas, but also through the lens of a life-long fighter pilot, student of war, a combat warrior, a leader of men, and a Prisoner of War.

Ironically, this week marks the anniversary that I started a new life - and my freedom from prison in Hanoi.

I spent nearly seven years as a Prisoner of War in Vietnam, more than half of that time in solitary confinement. I flew out of Hanoi on February 12, 1973 with other long-held Prisoners of War, weighing just 140 pounds. And tomorrow, 34 years ago, I had my homecoming to Texas, a truly unspeakable blessing of freedom.

While in solitary confinement, my captors kept me in leg stocks, like the pilgrims… for 72 days….

As you can imagine, they had to carry me out of the stocks because I couldn’t walk. The following day, they put me in leg irons… for 2 œ years. That’s when you have a tight metal cuff around each ankle, with a foot-long bar connecting the legs.

I still have little feeling in my right arm and my right hand… and my body has never been the same since my nearly 2,500 days of captivity.

But I will never let my physical wounds hold me back.

Instead, I try to see the silver lining. I say that because in some way…I’m living a dream…a hope I had for the future. “From April 16, 1966 to February 12, 1973, I prayed that I would return home to the loving embrace of my wife, Shirley, and my three kids, Bob, Gini, and Beverly…

And my fellow POWs and I clung to the hope of when, not if, we returned home.

We would spend hours tapping on the adjoining cement walls about what we would do when we got home to America.

We pledged to quit griping about the way the government was running the war in Vietnam and do something about it…We decided that we would run for office and try to make America a better place for all.

So, little did I know back in my rat-infested 3 x 8 dark and filthy cell that 34 years after my departure from Hell on Earth…I would spend the anniversary of my release pleading for a House panel to back my measure to support and fully fund the troops in harm’s way….and that just days later I would be on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives surrounded by distinguished veterans urging Congress to support our troops to the hilt.

We POWs were still in Vietnam when Washington cut the funding for Vietnam. I know what it does to morale and mission success. Words can not fully describe the horrendous damage of the anti-American efforts against the war back home to the guys on the ground.

Our captors would blare nasty recordings over the loud speaker of Americans protesting back home…tales of Americans spitting on Vietnam veterans when they came home… and worse.

We must never, ever let that happen again.

The pain inflicted by your country’s indifference is tenfold that inflicted by your ruthless captors.

Our troops, and their families, want, need and deserve the full support of the country, and the Congress. Moms and dads watching the news need to know that the Congress will not leave their sons and daughters in harm’s way without support.

Since the President announced his new plan for Iraq last month, there has been steady progress. He changed the rules of engagement and removed political protections.

There are reports we wounded the number two of Al Qaeda and killed his deputy. Yes, Al Qaeda operates in Iraq. It’s alleged that top radical jihadist Al-Sadr has fled Iraq, maybe to Iran. And Iraq’s closed its borders with Iran and Syria. The President changed course and offered a new plan…we are making progress. We must seize the opportunity to move forward, not stifle future success.

Debating non-binding resolutions aimed at earning political points only destroys morale, stymies success, and emboldens the enemy.

The grim reality is that this House measure is the first step to cutting funding of the troops…Just ask John Murtha about his ’slow-bleed’ plan that hamstrings our troops in harm’s way.

Now it’s time to stand up for my friends who did not make it home, and those who fought and died in Iraq, so I can keep my promise that when we got home we would quit griping about the war and do something positive about it…and we must not allow this Congress to leave these troops like the Congress left us.

Today, let my body serve as a brutal reminder that we must not repeat the mistakes of the past…instead learn from them.

We must not cut funding for our troops. We must stick by them. We must support them all the way…To our troops we must remain…always faithful.

God bless you and I salute you all. Thank you."
thank you, sir
Posted by: Frank G || 02/17/2007 09:26 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Posted by: doc || 02/17/2007 9:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Just ask John Murtha about his ’slow-bleed’ plan that hamstrings our troops in harm’s way.

Woah! Somebody get John some ice, because that kick in the balls is gonna swell up...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/17/2007 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Can't swell, No balls in the first place.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 02/17/2007 11:45 Comments || Top||

#4  The recent vote to approve a non-binding resolution in the House shows just what cowards those who voted for it are. This is all about posturing. We didn't vote for these people to issue resolutions, but to make descisions. Thesse bugwits are wasting their time and our money avoiding making a descision. They know if they cut the funding there will be a reckoning for it so they don't decide. We need people who WILL make descisions! They don't want to piss off the far left but they also don't want to piis off their main voter base so they sit on the fence and make pronouncements. Gutless wankers all.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 02/17/2007 11:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Capt Ed characterizes it as:

Unfortunately, the House just sent a huge signal to the terrorists that waiting us out is a winning strategy, one they will not have to endure for very long. I don't believe that the politicians who voted for this resolution are traitors or Quislings, and in fact I strenuously reject that characterization. I think they're idiots and fools, though, and idiots and fools can be almost as dangerous.

I think he's being too generous
Posted by: Frank G || 02/17/2007 11:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Anybody else got that tingling feeling that this is going to blow up in the donks' faces?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 02/17/2007 12:59 Comments || Top||

#7  I hold every one of these traitors, Republican or Democrat personally responsible for the consequences of their voting for this resolution. They are giving aid and comfort to the enemy, which is treason. And I do not use these words lightly.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/17/2007 13:41 Comments || Top||

#8  RE: the non binding resolution: I don't believe I've felt this disheartened since Jimmy Carter got elected.
Posted by: GK || 02/17/2007 14:23 Comments || Top||

#9  The matching Senate bill did not pass when put to a vote. So we're safe for now. link
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/17/2007 15:56 Comments || Top||

#10  "RE: the non binding resolution: I don't believe I've felt this disheartened since Jimmy Carter got elected."

These assholes have only been in session a month.

Just thought I'd cheer ya up a little...

Posted by: Dave D. || 02/17/2007 16:25 Comments || Top||

#11  A resolution like this can only have the effect on demoralizing our soldiers and giving hope to the enemy. Not many things things in this world are more inspiring than hope.

I'm having a difficult time figuring out more than one reason for wanting to inspire our enemies.
Posted by: Mike N. || 02/17/2007 18:14 Comments || Top||

#12  Anybody else got that tingling feeling that this is going to blow up in the donks' faces?

Yes, it will blow up in their faces, eventually. But the cost in the long run is going to be horrible. Someday I hope we get the opportunity to hold trials and hangings. After we pull the fat out the fire that is.

What really surprises me, is that none of these traitors have had an accident yet. I've half expected it by now, guess the pain still isn't bad enough.

Posted by: Omolurt Elmeaper6990 || 02/17/2007 18:34 Comments || Top||

#13  #8,#10 Thanks for trying, Dave, but somehow that doesn't buck me up. It just reminded that Queen Nancy thinks she still has time left on her 100 hour clock. These A$$holes can't even tell time.
Posted by: GK || 02/17/2007 19:50 Comments || Top||

#14  I was being a smartass, GK; sorry.

All kidding aside, I'm having a REALLY difficult time coming to terms with this. The socialist bastards are certainly wasting no time digging in and fucking things up, are they? And we've got AT LEAST another 23 months of this shit to put up with.

But with the events of yesterday and today, a line has been crossed: these people are no longer political opponents, they are now enemies.

One cherished notion we'd better get rid of, and quick: that "we're all in this together". Because it's obvious that we're not.

Posted by: Dave D. || 02/17/2007 20:01 Comments || Top||

#15  Someone want to post the names & districts of every *&%^$!! Representative who voted FOR the resolution? Also those 56 senators who voted to advance the resolution. I've got a feeling a few years from now these names will be very hard to find. Time for naming & shaming.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 21:00 Comments || Top||

#16  I haven't looked, but very likely the Victory Caucus has that info somewhere-- or will soon: the Caucus was formed this last week specifically to defeat anyone supporting the resolution.
Posted by: Dave D. || 02/17/2007 21:16 Comments || Top||

#17  A resolution like this can only have the effect on demoralizing our soldiers and giving hope to the enemy.

That is exactly what the Democrats and those Republicans want. Someone called them idiots and fools. Bullshit - these are professional politicians who have attained a high office - I do not think one of them is that kind of a fool or idiot.

They know exactly what they are doing and what effect it will have on the troops and on the enemy. They are deliberately and with full knowledge giving aid and comfort to those who murdered - in cold blood - the 3,000 innocent civilians in the Towers.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/17/2007 21:28 Comments || Top||

#18  Good for the Victory Caucus. I hope those names are plastered all over the internet forever.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 21:29 Comments || Top||

#19  Professionalism and attainment of high office are no bar to truly being a fool and/or an idiot. Some of the most foolish & idiotic people on earth are highly qualified. Some emperors have no clothes.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 21:34 Comments || Top||


Welcoming Heroes Home
caught via MyPetJawa. Have a tissue handy
Posted by: Frank G || 02/17/2007 08:01 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Damn!!! Good catch Frank.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 02/17/2007 16:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank thanks for posting that! We just put up a link to it on our Minnesota Troop Support website. It was just to good to pass up. Talk about pride.

I was doing fine up to the point were the last soldier get choked up.

Everyone should see this.
Posted by: Icerigger || 02/17/2007 16:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Original site on ABC News is here.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 21:18 Comments || Top||


Democratic House OKs rare wartime rebuke of President
The House of Representatives voted 246 to 182 today to pass a nonbinding resolution supporting U.S. soldiers in Iraq but opposing the president's plan to send more combat troops to the war zone.

The vote caps a historic week of debate in which Democrats and some Republicans inveighed against the cost in lives and dollars of the war in Iraq, and the Republican leadership warned about the dangers of walking away from a fight with Islamic terrorists. Today, 17 Republicans, going against the wishes of President Bush, joined Democrats in supporting the resolution; two Democrats took the president's side and voted against it.

The vote could also mark a turning point in the war.
Only for Democrats.
"This vote is the first step back from the abyss," Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) said.

"The stakes in Iraq are too high to recycle proposals that have little prospect for success," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-San Francisco), who rode to power when the anti-war sentiments in last fall's elections helped overturn the Republican majority on Capitol Hill. "The passage of this legislation will signal a change in direction in Iraq that will end the fighting and bring our troops home."

Republican leaders warned that passage of the resolution could embolden Democrats to cut off funding for the war. "Their so-called slow bleed approach is the bite that will surely hurt those fighting under America's flag overseas," said Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri, the second-ranking Republican. "This nonbinding resolution is the first step in an all-too-binding spiral toward defeat in a fight that we cannot afford to lose," he said.
Republicans voting 'yes': Mike Castle (DE), Howard Coble (NC), Tom Davis (VA), John J. Duncan Jr. (TN), Phil English (PA), Wayne Gilchrest (MD), Bob Inglis (SC); Timothy V. Johnson (IL), Walter B. Jones Jr. (NC), Ric Keller (FL), Mark Kirk (IL), Steven C. LaTourette (OH), Ron Paul (TX), Tom Petri (WI); Jim Ramstad (MN), Fred Upton (MI), Jim Walsh (NY).

Democrats voting 'no': Jim Marshall (GA), Gene Taylor (MS).
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another non-binder just to say the Dems want a Democrat POTUS in the WH before they admit years later than Dubya was correct + winning in the ME.
Until then, MANLY/PATRIOTIC GUMPTION > American Pols helping Amer's enemies kill our own Amer soldiers for the sake of PC politico advantage/special interest. * O'REILLY > DINESH D/SOUZA book "THE ENEMY AT HOME" > D'Souza's so-called "CULTURAL LEFT" {OR's FAR LEFT] appears to working in coordination wid OBL's agenda, i.e. Osama - Radical Islam provides the anti-US Terror = Righteous People's War of Resistance & National /Global Liberation [from USA-West], locally or internationally, while the Cultural Left = Far Left handles the national anarchy/destabilization aspects. AS SAID BEFORE, THE ANTITHESIS OF WAR AGZ FASCISM [FORMS OF FASCISM] = WAR FOR COMMUNISM. War against Rightist Socialism = War for Leftism-Socialism; War against God-based Ultra-Socialism + Ultra-Nationalism = War for Secular Atheist Socialism + Secular Anti-Nationalism; War agz Hitlerism = War for Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism; War agz Limited Governmentism in Economy = War for TOTAL Governmentism in Economy.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/17/2007 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  SPACEWAR > NORTH KOREA TO MIANTAIN "WAR FOTING" AGZ AMERICA. Wants a "powerful Socialist State" , prob in order to make sure ordinary Norkies are starved good and proper.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/17/2007 0:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Says nothing, accomplishes nothing, impresses only those who were already in the fold.
Good to see "they support the troops" though...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/17/2007 0:46 Comments || Top||

#4  1) It's just a temporary tax.
2) I did not have sex with that women.
3) I'm sorry if you're offended.
4) We support the troops.
Posted by: DMFD || 02/17/2007 1:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Brave Sir Robin...
Posted by: Shineger Unatle5424 || 02/17/2007 6:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Traitors. Every last one of them. And each deserves a traitor's punishment.

It's not too hard to see where we're headed with all this: for those too young to remember, you're about to experience what the 1970's were like, when America was Fuckup Nation, a musclebound giant of a country that just couldn't seem to do anything right. We spent the decade after 'Nam drugging ourselves into a stupor trying to forget, and capped it all off in the year of our Bicentennial by electing that fucking moron, Jimmy Carter.

These bastards have just delivered a resounding message to allies and enemies alike, that Osama bin Laden was absolutely, positively right about us: Americans WILL give up sooner or later; all you need to do is exceed their miniscule attention span and their meager reserves of courage. America's astonishingly capable military can pound any foreign foe flat in mere days. But it's no match for the feeble character of the American citizen.

*SPIT*

Posted by: Dave D. || 02/17/2007 8:50 Comments || Top||

#7  I read earlier that advocating the shooting of any America will get a poster sink-trapped. Does the same go for advocating a good ass-kicking or maybe a nice tar and feathering of these 17 Repoublican patriots?
Posted by: jds || 02/17/2007 8:52 Comments || Top||

#8  This donk non-binding resolution is the most chickenshit, nutless, whining, crybaby response I've seen in a long time. I'd rather endure a root canal than listen to this whiny bullshit. Support the troops or STFU.
Posted by: JohnQC || 02/17/2007 9:10 Comments || Top||

#9  In the long fine tradition of selling out their fellow man, a rebirth of the Copperheads.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/17/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#10  The yea votes - some are hard core leftists with a cause. Some stand with firm conviction grounded on the latest polls. Some are just pliable fools. All are policticians.
Posted by: Hank || 02/17/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#11  Nancy Pelosi has gotten some very flattering press coverage in the ME. And it sounds like she is the darling of all the Jihadi websites. Who says this resolution didn’t accomplish anything?
Posted by: DepotGuy || 02/17/2007 10:36 Comments || Top||

#12  Funny that NONE ofthe msm thought to analyze the net affect of this resolution. Their stated goal was to stop or delay the reenforcements (call them what they are) from deploying to Iraq. But the ONLY two things I see as a result of this resolution was to embolden our enemies and demoralize our troops. I served during the entire Presidency of Bill Clinton and I was never ever political (as most people are not in the military). This action and other by the Donks will probably cause most if not all in the military to become more political. While you might think this is a good thing, think of the morale of units that are split with political strife within the ranks. I say this knowing full well that most in uniform are consevative but when you are engaged in a conflict you don't have time or luxury to have a political discussion on every order.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 02/17/2007 12:17 Comments || Top||

#13  The House passed it, but it failed in the Senate. So the Democratic effort lost, this time.

The vote was 56-34. That was four short of the 60 needed to advance the measure, which is identical to a nonbinding resolution that Democrats pushed through the House on Friday. The vote marked the second time this winter that Senate Republicans have blocked action on nonbinding measures critical of the president's war policies. This time, however, there were signs of restlessness within the GOP. Seven Republicans broke with their leadership, compared with only two on the previous test vote.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/17/2007 15:13 Comments || Top||

#14  Looking forward to opposing the seven Quislings in the next primary election.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger || 02/17/2007 15:29 Comments || Top||

#15  Sudddenly Jim Ramstad (MN) has sunk to Keith Ellison's low level.

These pathetic Dhimmicrats can't offer up one suggestion other than surrender. Yes they are (thanks Proco) Copperhead traitors and the Sauds must be laughing their asses off.
Posted by: Icerigger || 02/17/2007 16:25 Comments || Top||

#16  But it's no match for the feeble character of the American citizen.

Exactly. This is why there needs to be a mandatory civic service of some sort. Everyone, should have to serve two years in some capacity, doesn't have to be military, but something. Make it between HS and college.

Before I joined the service I was a fucked up sloppy civilian kid. The service straightened me out and gave me a good taste of reality. We need to require everyone to serve the State for two years in some capacity, might end a lot of this BS.
Posted by: Omolurt Elmeaper6990 || 02/17/2007 18:45 Comments || Top||

#17  #16 - the electorate won't stand for it. After all, they elected our current crop of "distinguished" representatives.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 21:37 Comments || Top||

#18  Adding to Cyber Sarge's comments (#12): As political as the military got (in its own secret ways) during Carter and Clinton terms, I think you are going to see a landslide of military votes next time by. The recent elections here in Washington took on some controversy in the King County area; the elections office constantly cannot pour piss out of a boot with directions on the heel, and they screwed the mail in /absentee ballots up so bad, that they effectively disenfranchised all King County based military and dependents overseas. And Ron Sims, terminal Democrat, didn't say boo about it. I would not be at all surprised to see a spread of this sort of behaviour in close districts coming up.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 02/17/2007 22:07 Comments || Top||

#19  I've been reading recently about a projected shortfall in pollworker volunteers. Perhaps the VFW posts could come up with some names?
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/17/2007 22:15 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Court Refuses Medic's Discharge Claim
WASHINGTON (AP) - A federal appeals court refused on Friday to overturn the detention of a U.S. Army medic who declared his opposition to war on the eve of his deployment to Iraq. Agustin Aguayo, who enlisted in 2002 during the run-up to the Iraq war, asked the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia to release him from a military prison. He had sought an honorable discharge as a ``conscientious objector.''
And now he gets a dishonorable one as a coward.
Aguayo, who has been held in a U.S. prison in Germany since going absent without leave, said he enlisted as a way to earn money for his education.
And he's getting an education, though not the one he thought he'd get.
Though military operations in Afghanistan were under way and discussions about Iraq were ongoing, he said he never considered that he'd have to fight.
I'm told that right about the time in basic training that you go to the firing range for the first time and have a rifle put in your hands, is about the time you understand, if you didn't before, what the army does.
He faces up to seven years in prison on charges of desertion and missing movement and is scheduled to face trial next month, his attorney, Peter Goldberger said. Goldberger said he would ask the appeals court to reconsider the decision. ``It breaks my heart because I think he's sincere,'' the lawyer added.

Goldberger told the court in November that Aguayo's beliefs evolved over time and ``crystallized'' to the point that he could no longer take a life.
He was a medic. He wasn't being asked to take lives.
The Army said that wasn't enough. To receive conscientious-objector status, Assistant U.S. Attorney Kevin K. Robitaille said, a soldier must show a deeply rooted objection to war in any form.

``These cases are hard for people to believe because they involve a change in people's beliefs, but when you think about how old they were when they signed up, it's not that surprising at all,'' Goldberger said Friday.
Just nineteen and an adult, was he?
Government attorneys noted that Aguayo applied as a conscientious objector only after receiving his orders to Iraq and did so at the same time as his best friend. They said there was not enough evidence to support Aguayo's argument. The appeals court unanimously agreed, saying it could overturn the Army's decision only in the most extraordinary circumstances. The court found that the military had good reason to deny Aguayo's application.

The three-judge panel said Aguayo had little evidence to support his growing moral conviction against war and said the Army appropriately weighed the suspicious timing of his application. ``Though Aguayo stated that his Army training caused him anguish and guilt, we find little indication that his beliefs were accompanied by study or contemplation, whether before or after he joined the Army,'' Judge David B. Sentelle wrote.
So we have at least three judges who can't be conned.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Though military operations in Afghanistan were under way and discussions about Iraq were ongoing, he said he never considered that he'd have to fight.

Shit, this guys dumb enough and cowardly enough to be a congressman.
And may be one some day...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/17/2007 0:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Government attorneys noted that Aguayo applied as a conscientious objector only after receiving his orders to Iraq and did so at the same time as his best friend.

Timing is indeed everything.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/17/2007 6:37 Comments || Top||

#3  The only reason I took this job at school is because of the money, I hate kids and shouldn't have to be around them. I still want the money tho.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/17/2007 8:36 Comments || Top||

#4  But I'll bet he "supports the troops"...
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/17/2007 8:38 Comments || Top||

#5  It used to be the acid test of a c.o. that they would be offered the job of combat medic. If they accepted, then they were a real c.o., and could serve in a non-combat role, honorably. If they refused, they were a coward.

Later, it was decided that if they fully convert to an anti-war religion like the Quakers, that was also good enough for c.o. status. However, they had to be familiar with Quaker doctrines to use that excuse. Most cowards are also slackers, so they wouldn't even try to learn Quaker doctrines.

But in the final analysis, anybody who declares themselves c.o. is probably a lost cause. Not only does it mean that they would be piss-poor as soldiers themselves, but they would probably endanger other soldiers, because of their deficiencies.

I hold the theory that only a small percentage of the population can ever be real "warriors". They are just born with talent that gives them the potential to be a LOT better than anybody else, even with training. The vast majority can be very effective in combat support and combat service support, but one real warrior with training is worth a hundred non-warriors with training.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/17/2007 9:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Interesting Quakers with records: Nathanael Greene and Jacob Brown. Obviously the modern version doesn't match those closer to the point of origin.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/17/2007 12:36 Comments || Top||

#7  when you think about how old they were when they signed up, it's not that surprising at all

I can think of no greater rationale for raising the voting age to 21 than this. If he's too da$$$d young to serve in the military and go to war, he's too da$$$d young to be allowed to vote. Of course, in this turd's case, he's also not bright enough to vote.

The bleeding-heart lawyer needs to be drafted as a combat replacement for Aguayo, just to keep things in perspective.

Every member of the military swears an oath to "support and defend". We're told up front, that if there's a war, you're butt is going to take part, one way or another. Every branch of the military supports some form of warrior training - not just military training, but warrior training. Aguayo just didn't have what it takes, and will now be flushed. He should get a BCD and be forced to repay the Army for all the money they wasted training his sorry a$$.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/17/2007 13:19 Comments || Top||

#8  The "best friend" datum is the key. He probably qualifies under the "Don't ask. Don't tell" for immediate discharge.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 02/17/2007 22:30 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Afghan revolt becoming 'liberation war': Uruk Hai
Afghanistan for a struggle that is taking on the character of a “liberation war” against foreign troops, NWFP Governor Ali Mohammed Jan Orakzai said on Friday.

He said cross-border attacks accounted for only a fraction of the insurgency in Afghanistan. The main reason for the Taliban’s return was the frustration of ethnic Pashtuns seeking more political say in Kabul and resentment of ongoing military operations and the lack of economic aid in the south and east of Afghanistan, he said. “Today, they’ve reached the stage that a lot of the local population has started supporting the militant operations and it is developing into some sort of a nationalist movement, a resistance movement, sort of a liberation war against coalition forces,” Orakzai told a news conference. Orakzai defended a September peace deal with pro-Taliban militants in North Waziristan. Pakistan-based militants may cause, at most, “20 percent of the problem in Afghanistan,” he said. He forecast that militants would take years to defeat and the Kabul government and its foreign backers would one day have to negotiate with the Taliban. Orakzai said coalition forces in Afghanistan must match Pakistan’s commitment to preventing the cross-border infiltration.
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He may have a point. If we were to use a fraction of our Afghan budget as a public works program, with the idea of just employing huge numbers of Afghans for pennies; having them do improvements that would create more jobs in the future, it would really put the blocks to the bad guyz, who thrive off of poverty.

Not just "make work", but making the infrastructure for small business around the country. On the heels of their activity, set up micro banks to act like the US Small Business Administration.

This has been done successfully elsewhere in the region, particularly India, and it is simple enough to both make sense, and be managed by uneducated peasants. It can quintuple the wealth of a village in a few months.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/17/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#2  A: He may have a point. If we were to use a fraction of our Afghan budget as a public works program, with the idea of just employing huge numbers of Afghans for pennies; having them do improvements that would create more jobs in the future, it would really put the blocks to the bad guyz, who thrive off of poverty.

There are billions of poor people in the world. 99% don't end up being terrorists. These people don't want work. They want to rule. They want to be a part of the leisure class that will run things after a Taliban victory. This is why they're risking life and limb, not because they want jobs laying pipes or building roads.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/17/2007 11:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Notice that the slime declaring the Afghan war a "war of liberation" is doing so from Pakistan. His precious butt isn't on the firing lines. As for trying to build infrastructure, I do believe that's being done - on a broad scale. Unfortunately, the talibunnies do their best to try to destroy everything we do as soon as we do it. Keep whacking talibunnies until there aren't any left. Then when we build infrastructure, it will last longer than a few months.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/17/2007 13:23 Comments || Top||

#4  I have more sympathy for the Afghans. They have a level of poverty that is just astounding. Plus they have a return of millions of refugees.

Add that to the fact that their standard of living is rock bottom, so a tiny wage by our standards is worth a fortune there. And that they have a good track record of building small business with just the smallest assistance.

One of the biggest companies in Afghanistan is a woman's piecemeal consignment company, that exports weaving that women make in their homes that locally is worth little, but internationally is worth a lot. Single handedly, it has created several boom towns, that from there move into micro banking, which gets lots of other businesses started.

They are an industrious people, if given the chance. And left to their own devices, over time they would build up their economy considerably. However, what I propose would accelerate the process, hopefully.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/17/2007 13:24 Comments || Top||


US operations in Pakistan expose flaws, says Fazl
Maulana Fazlur Rehman, the Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA) secretary-general, said on Friday that the statements by US commanders saying that they have been hitting Al Qaeda and Taliban targets inside Pakistan exposed fault lines in the Pakistani government’s policies.

“It is the result of our government’s flawed policies that US generals are now openly talking of operations inside Pakistan, despite the fact that Pakistan has been their ally for the last five years in the so-called war on terror,” he told a press conference at the Parliament Lodges.

He called Afghan President Hamid Karzi a puppet. He refused to comment on the replacement of Hafiz Hussain Ahmed with Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidery as the MMA deputy secretary-general, calling it an internal part matter.
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  US operations in Pakistan expose flaws, in US operations.
Posted by: gromgoru || 02/17/2007 5:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Actually what I think he's complaining about is the fact that the US generals are ASKING to be ALLOWED to conduct operations against known talibunny training sites in Pakistan - places pakistan won't take care of themselves. Just another piece of enemy propaganda to try to stir up trouble. Pakiwakiland needs to disappear.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/17/2007 13:25 Comments || Top||


King of Nepal is stoned by crowd
Nepal's King Gyanendra has come under attack from a stone-throwing crowd as he travelled in a motorcade. The monarch, who was on his way to a pilgrimage site in Kathmandu to attend a Hindu festival, escaped unhurt. Nepal's king, traditionally regarded as an incarnation of the Hindu god Vishnu, has become highly controversial since assuming absolute power in 2005. The attack is the first of its kind since he stepped down following nation wide protests in April 2006.

King Gyanendra was on his way to the Pashupati temple in the capital for the Maha Shivratri festival when crowds chanting anti-monarchy slogans pelted his motorcade with stones. The BBC's Surendra Phuyal in Kathmandu says the situation remained tense at the temple for more than an hour as the monarch paid his respects in the temple premises.

The local police chief told the BBC that they had to use force to control the unruly mob. There has been strong public feeling against the monarch since he gave up power. Nepal's reinstated parliament has since stripped him of most of his traditional powers as the country gears up for elections in June. The elected parliament is then set to decide the future role of the monarchy or whether it should be abolished. The Maha Shivratri festival is attended by hundreds of thousands of people every year, and is famous for its naked Sadhus, or holy men, known as Naga Babas.
Posted by: John Frum || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If they can stone kings, why not congressmen?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 1:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Watch it Anguper Hupomosing9418 (if that's your real name), border line.

Instead consider.... sneaking up on Rep. Murtha and giving him a vicious tickling.

/test
Posted by: Shipman || 02/17/2007 8:41 Comments || Top||

#3  They'll stone ya when your out in a crowd...Dylan?
Posted by: JohnQC || 02/17/2007 9:11 Comments || Top||

#4  Anguper gives the whole Hupomosing9418 family a bad name.
Posted by: Frank Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 10:26 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
UN official in Philippines for circus summary killing probe
The United Nations' rapporteur for Human Rights, Philip Alston is arriving here Sunday to investigate the spate of killings of members of militant organizations and journalists, the military said.
Hey, won't you play, another "Somebody done somebody wrong" song...
Major Randolph Cabangbang, spokesperson of the military's Eastern Mindanao Command said Alston is investigating the spate of killings of members of militant and party list organizations and journalists. Kelly Delgado, Karapatan Southern Mindanao secretary general, said Alston will meet with their members from around Mindanao together with witnesses, survivors, and relatives of victims. He said he Alston will meet them for at least five hours in an undisclosed venue. He said the witnesses and relatives of victims agreed to surface on condition they will not face the media.

Alston is in the country on a 10-day official visit a year after leaders of human rights groups went to the United Nations to lobby for an investigation, Delgado told MindaNews. The military's Civil Relations Service warned Alston's visit would be met by mass actions by groups they labeled as "CPP/NPA front organizations".
Important Action Alert!
Cabangbang said the groups will launch mass demonstrations in time for the visit. Delgado said the alleged mass action may have been a spin by the military so they can justify the deployment of forces and harass the witnesses and victims to dissuade them from testifying to Alston. He said presentation of evidence is an even bigger blow to the government than a mass demonstration.
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  will he meet with the decapitated head of the American hostage?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/17/2007 8:37 Comments || Top||


Iraq
In Iraq, Kurdish militia has the run of oil-rich Kirkuk
Despite the deceitful headline and doom and gloom tone, a very interesting article.
KIRKUK, Iraq - Lt. Hiwa Raouf Abdul is not supposed to be in Kirkuk. The oil-rich city, which many fear is teetering on the brink of civil war, is off-limits to Kurdish Peshmerga militia members.

And yet, on Tuesday, the slender, 26-year-old Peshmerga officer breezed through one checkpoint after the next on his way into Kirkuk, exchanging waves and salutes with Iraqi army soldiers and policemen as he rode with a truckload of Peshmerga gunmen.

Abdul is stationed in the nearby Kurdish city of Sulaimaniyah, where the Peshmerga enforce strict security through a series of checkpoints, and his visit to Kirkuk came only because his commanders asked him to escort a reporter there. But the ease with which a pickup truck carrying seven Peshmerga members, most of them wielding AK-47s, passed into Kirkuk says volumes about the challenge of pacifying flashpoint towns like Kirkuk and, ultimately, Iraq.

When he passed by the Iraqi army checkpoint on the edge of Kirkuk, Abdul looked at the soldiers saluting him and said, "They get their orders from the Iraqi army, but their loyalty is to the Kurds, to us."

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: phil_b || 02/17/2007 05:13 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Every cloud has a silver lining.
Posted by: gromgoru || 02/17/2007 5:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe I miss your point Grom. You do know that the IDF advised the Peshmerga for years?
Posted by: Shipman || 02/17/2007 8:48 Comments || Top||

#3  The main guy doing the complaining is Turkomen, and this group has been actively siding with Al Qaeda during the past several years. I say f**k 'em. Karma is a bitch.

Al
Posted by: Frozen Al || 02/17/2007 11:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Shipman. My point exactly. Iraq cannot be a democracy/western friendly. However, Kurdistan can (because no choice).
Posted by: gromgoru || 02/17/2007 14:30 Comments || Top||

#5  The article slights over the historical fact that Kirkuk was Kurdish until Saddam Hussein drove Kurds away from the area & imported other ethnic groups. Kurdish Iraq is the closest thing to a functioning state that Iraq has. I hope the US has pre-placed bases & supplies there in case the rest of Iraq goes to hell.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/17/2007 21:26 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
U.S. urges new Palestinian gov't to recognize Israel
(Xinhua) -- The United Sates said Thursday that any new Palestinian unity government must recognize Israel, renounce violence and accept past international agreements. "Israel needs a negotiating partner that acknowledges Israel's right to exist, renounces the use of violence against Israel and also abide by previous international agreements involving the Palestinians and Israel," White House spokesman Tony Snow said. "Those are the basic conditions and we certainly hope that Israel will find that partner we've worked with President Abbas and we continue to do what we can," Snow said.

Snow made the comments after the Hamas-led Palestinian government resigned on Thursday and Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas asked the prime minister, Ismail Haniya, to form a new Palestinian unity government. The United States, a longtime supporter of Israel, has vowed not to deal with the Hamas-led Palestinian government until the radical Islamic group renounces violence and recognizes the existence of Israel. Moreover, the Bush administration has suspended direct aid and contacts with the Hamas-led Palestinian government.
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Southeast Asia
Where US is helping to make gains against terrorism
Hat tip to Joe of the Jungle in the O-Club.
PANAMAO, PHILIPPINES - It's the kind of item that doesn't show up in defense budget audits: A $200 tin-roofed communal outhouse, or "comfort room," tucked behind the village market. To US Army Capt. Steve Battle, who split the construction cost with his Philippine counterparts, it's money well spent.

Gaining the trust of residents in Panamao, a stricken village on the edge of a combat zone, is why US and Philippine troops are dug in here. In counterterrorism jargon, this Muslim community is a "center of gravity" that can be swayed with targeted projects – a new well, a school classroom, or a toilet. "It's not the amount of people that you affect. It's who you affect," says Captain Battle, a civil-affairs officer.

At a time when success stories in the US-led war on terror have been all but eclipsed by failures in Iraq, recent developments in the southern Philippines offer a degree of hope to Pentagon planners. But they also show the complexity of waging war in a contested, chaotic area, as well as the long slog needed to stand up a national army equal to sure-footed militants.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Steve White || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Steve Battle?
I call AOS conspiracy!
Posted by: Shipman || 02/17/2007 8:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Bwahahaha! Resistance is futile.
Posted by: Steve || 02/17/2007 9:57 Comments || Top||

#3  heh ....you know any Commodore Steve's?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/17/2007 10:04 Comments || Top||


TERRORISM: U.S. ASKS PHILIPPINES MUSLIM REBELS FOR HELP
(AKI) - Washington has asked the Philippines' largest Muslim rebel group for help in the hunt for militants from the al-Qaeda affiliated Jemaah Islamiyah [JI] who are active in southern Philippines. Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) vice chair for political affairs, Ghadzali Jaafar, told Adnkronos International (AKI) that US deputy head of mission in the Philippines, Paul Jones, personally requested help in catching JI bomb experts Omar Patek and Dulmatin, dead or alive.

United States officials made the request as they secretly met Moro Islamic Liberation [MILF] leaders in a rebel camp somewhere in Shariff Kabunsuan, on the restive island of Mindanao, on Thursday. "They want us to help by providing vital information that will lead to the arrest of the two terrorists. I said we could help them because we are also against the two. We are always affected by their activities," Jaafar said. The Patek and Dulmatin are allegedly responsible for several bombings in the region, including the deadly 2002 Bali bombings.

According to Jaafar, Jones was accompanied by Jon. D. Lindborg, the United States agency for international development's mission director, Col. David S. Maxwell, joint special operations task force commander, Col. Bruce A. West, defense and air attache', and Paul Kennedy, regional security officer. "They asked also about the whereabouts of Abdul Basit Usman. We told them that he never became a member of our organisation ever since," Jaafar added.

Usman, a suspected terrorist responsible for a series of bomb attacks in the southern Philippines in recent months, has a 50,000 dollar bounty on his head for his arrest.

The MILF renounced any link with terrorist organisations in 2003 when its late leader, Salamat Hashim, asked Washington to get involved in the still ongoing peace talks with Manila.
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "They asked also about the whereabouts of Abdul Basit Usman. We told them that he never became a member of our organisation ever since," Jaafar added.

ummmm ....does that make sense?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/17/2007 8:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Frank you have a good point.

In WWII would we have contacted the Nazis to arrest Italians? WTF.
Posted by: Icerigger || 02/17/2007 8:53 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Hezbollah will not forgive Lebanon arms seizure
BEIRUT - Hezbollah chief Hasan Nasarallah said on Friday he will not forgive Lebanese authorities for seizing weapons from his anti-Israeli Shiite guerrilla group. “We will not forgive anyone who confiscates a bullet,” he said in a speech during the annual commemoration of the killing of two senior Hezbollah officials in Israeli attacks in 1987 and 1992.

“We are ready to provide the army with all the weapons that it requires ... but we will not forgive anyone who confiscates a bullet,” he said. "We have plenty of weapons, of all kinds ... and we have the right to transport our arms to combat Israel, even if we transport them in secret to hide them from the Israeli enemy.”

“The Resistance will always stand by the Lebanese army, with our weapons, men and blood ... to defend Lebanon,” he said.

Defence Minister Elias Murr later said the army will use the seized weapons to fight Israel in case of any future violation of Lebanese sovereignty.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  we have the right to transport our arms to combat Israel, even if we transport them in secret to hide them from the Israeli enemy

No need to hide them from UNIFIL.
Posted by: gromgoru || 02/17/2007 5:19 Comments || Top||


Emile says ready to help form national unity gov't
(Xinhua) -- Lebanese President Emile Lahoud asserted on Friday readiness to contribute to any solution that will bring real national unity government which in return will help bring back political and national balance to the country.

A statement issued by the Presidential media office said Lahoud encouraged any meeting that will help end the crisis between the government and opposition. The Lebanese president expressed sadness to innocent victims who lost their lives in the two tragic bomb explosions last Tuesday. Lahoud called on all parties involved to increase efforts in finding out the perpetrators of the two explosions.

Lebanese opposition alliance launched an open-ended sit-in in downtown Beirut on Dec. 1 last year to topple Premier Fouad Seniora's government, declaring the anti-Syrian cabinet illegitimate and demanding early parliamentary elections and a new electoral law. The Seniora government, backed by the March 14 parliamentary majority coalition, had rejected such calls and accused the Hezbollah-led protest of trying to obstruct the creation of an international tribunal to try suspects in the 2005 assassination of ex-Premier Rafik Hariri and related crimes.
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:


Nasrallah: dialogue on Lebanon crisis "premature"
(Xinhua) -- Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said Friday that the various calls for a national dialogue in Lebanon are "premature," but he welcomed bilateral meetings with the group's allies. In a speech Friday during the annual commemoration of the killing of two senior Hezbollah officials in Israeli attacks in 1987 and 1992, Nasrallah said that any talk about dialogue or consultations for finding a way out of the Lebanese crisis is "premature." But he welcomed bilateral meetings "between a leader of the other party and a leader of the opposition," adding that "bilateral meetings could be an effort leading to opening gaps" in the wall separating both camps.

Nasrallah said that Hezbollah at this stage was not prepared to talk directly to leaders of the pro-government March 14 alliance. "We trust our allies," said Nasrallah, "any leader of an opposition faction can represent us without hesitation."

Last week, Lebanese authorities seized a truck full of weapons belonging to Hezbollah near Beirut. "My brethren and I are ready to give the army multiple folds of weapons, but we will not forgive anyone for usurping a bullet," Nasrallah said.

Nasrallah also noted that Hezbollah has no interest in attacking the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL), accusing some political factions in the country of trying to hint that his group has such intentions. "The UNIFIL came with our approval and we have no interests in carrying out any attack against them," Nasrallah stressed.

A beefed-up UNIFIL force was deployed in southern Lebanon in accordance to UN Security Council Resolution 1701 which ended last year's 34-day Israel-Hezbollah war in Lebanon.
Posted by: Fred || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:


Terror Networks
Al-Qa`ida's Spymaster Analyzes U.S. Intelligence
Interesting but older document I noticed at West Point's Combating Terrorism Center.


Al-Hakaymah recently joined Al-Qa'ida and seems to aspire to be its chief intelligence analyst. His report indicates that Al Qa’ida has evolved from studying U.S. security tactics and electoral politics to more sophisticated analyses of U.S. bureaucratic structure and weaknesses. Whereas security planners have tended to think of bureaucratic limitations as internal problems that may limit our ability to detect, prevent, or respond to an attack, we must now consider that Al Qa’ida will actively attempt to exploit these weaknesses.
Posted by: Angenter Crolugum3645 || 02/17/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Al-Qa`ida's Spymaster Analyzes U.S. Intelligence

So they read the NYT.
Posted by: Shineger Unatle5424 || 02/17/2007 6:53 Comments || Top||

#2  You mean they've learned America's fatal weakness? The Democratic Party?
Posted by: Perfesser || 02/17/2007 8:51 Comments || Top||

#3  You mean they've learned America's fatal weakness? The Democratic Party?

No, the dummycritter party is just the tip of the iceberg. The real weakness is the left-leaning bureaucracy that has become so powerful it no longer even pretends to do the wishes of its leadership and the president. Time to flush the entire, rotten lot.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/17/2007 13:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Amen to that Old Patriot....
Posted by: JustAboutEnough || 02/17/2007 14:13 Comments || Top||

#5  OP...amen. The same useless beauracracy that is sacrifcing the future of the USAF...riffing virtually an entire generation of O's and E's...to finance aircraft we do not need (F-22 and the JSF-35). China...the only plausible strategic threat in the next 20 years...will not be able to project strategic let alone tactical power to the North American continent before 2020.
Posted by: anymouse || 02/17/2007 19:21 Comments || Top||



Who's in the News
76[untagged]

Bookmark
E-Mail Me

The Classics
The O Club
Rantburg Store
The Bloids
The Never-ending Story
Thugburg
Gulf War I
The Way We Were
Bio

Merry-Go-Blog











On Sale now!


A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.

Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.

Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has dominated Mexico for six years.
Click here for more information

Meet the Mods
In no particular order...
Steve White
Seafarious
tu3031
badanov
sherry
ryuge
GolfBravoUSMC
Bright Pebbles
trailing wife
Gloria
Fred
Besoeker
Glenmore
Frank G
3dc
Skidmark

Two weeks of WOT
Sat 2007-02-17
  Algeria: Police kill 26 bad boyz, arrest 35 after attacks
Fri 2007-02-16
  Attempt to hijack Maretanian plane painfully foiled
Thu 2007-02-15
  Al-Masri said wounded, aide killed
Wed 2007-02-14
  Bombs kill nine on buses in Lebanon
Tue 2007-02-13
  Tater bugs out
Mon 2007-02-12
  140 arrested in Baghdad sweeps: US military
Sun 2007-02-11
  Petraeus takes command
Sat 2007-02-10
  Iraqi and US forces push into Baghdad flashpoints
Fri 2007-02-09
  Hamas and Fatah sign unity accord
Thu 2007-02-08
  UN creates tribunal on Lebanon political killings
Wed 2007-02-07
  Fatah, Hamas talks kick off in Mecca
Tue 2007-02-06
  Yemen prepared to grant top Sheikh Sharif asylum
Mon 2007-02-05
  McNeill Assumes Command Of NATO Forces In Afghanistan
Sun 2007-02-04
  Truck boomer kills 135 in deadliest Iraq blast
Sat 2007-02-03
  22 killed and 245 wounded since Thursday in Trucefire™


Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
3.138.116.20
Help keep the Burg running! Paypal:
WoT Operations (23)    Non-WoT (11)    Opinion (12)    Local News (7)    (0)