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2010-02-19 India-Pakistan

Minister says Pakistan will not hand captured Taliban leaders to United States

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Posted by tipper 2010-02-19 07:36|| || Front Page|| [7 views ] Top

#1 Interesting that a statement like this should come from this chap .

For a bit of background , he was drugs tzar , anti corruption campaigner , been proactive against Islamist militants and has good rep with interpol and other national agencies . But certain clouds loom over him as regards Bhutos assasination

Reading between the lines a little :
"But at the most if they have not done anything, then they will go back to the country of origin, not to USA," Malik said.

Says , to me , once we have finished with them then you lot can have a play, considering who has said it.

Posted by Oscar 2010-02-19 09:40|| 2010-02-19 09:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Observance of the Law is VERY important. And when you "deport" him back to Afghanistan and he gets off the bus....we can welcome him back. Some money may have to change hands and the ticket gets punched(as it were).

Just so long as the ticket gets punched quietly. Put him off the bus in Goombah at about three in the morning..we will take it from there.

Put him a big canvas Mailbag with lots of masking take around his mouth and some fiberglass tie-ties on his wrists. And after that....we put him in the Jeep for a trip to the airport.

Then a pleasant flight to an Island in the Andaman's in the Indian Ocean and a thorough makeover ...and then...the seaturtles.

Posted by BlackBart 2010-02-19 09:47|| 2010-02-19 09:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Ahhh yes, 'Extraordinary Rendition.' Of course we no longer do it here.

Two days after President Barack Obama was sworn into office, on January 22, 2009, he signed an executive order entitled Ensuring Lawful Interrogations.

This order specifically addresses the practice of transferring individuals to other nations in order to ensure that such practices comply with the domestic laws, international obligations, and policies of the United States.[8] It establishes a committee that will provide recommendations within 180 days of the executive order. It specifically has as its goal a process to ensure that the United States practices do not result in the transfer of individuals to other nations to face torture or otherwise for the purpose, or with the effect, of undermining or circumventing the commitments or obligations of the United States to ensure the humane treatment of individuals in its custody or control.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-02-19 09:49|| 2010-02-19 09:49|| Front Page Top

#4 To twist a phrase: They may be assholes, but they're Pakistan's assholes.

My guess: they will be debriefed, told what to say to Americans, and loosed again in the world. If any don't cooperate, they will be held, kept away from our people, and eventually killed.

Posted by Free Radical 2010-02-19 09:56|| 2010-02-19 09:56|| Front Page Top

#5 As one Taliban leader once said we cant upset our masters(Pak army) otherwise we will be sold to slaughter(USA)

Posted by Paul2 2010-02-19 10:23|| 2010-02-19 10:23|| Front Page Top

#6 FreeRadical...whatever works. I am no stickler for HOW we get what we want. Debriefing is a detailed, meticulous process, could take a while, you do it over and over and over and compare replies. Cross reference. Its a study and can be very productive.

But it isnt fast. Actionable tactical Intell isnt usually available in a debriefing.
The Fear of God is, and always should be, a real application. It was what the Inquisition called "showing the accused the Instruments".

there should be no doubt in everybody's mind that if we dont get what we want in a profitable manner we will KILL you. And we wont be particularly nice about how we do it. I would want that made very clear..forcefully clear, explicitly clear.

Large electrical electrodes in each large muscle of your thighs and the current to run through your genitals , clear.

just a demo...and then some tea.

Posted by BlackBart 2010-02-19 10:26|| 2010-02-19 10:26|| Front Page Top

#7 BBart- what I was trying to say (poorly) was that the Pakistanis (the ISI) aren't going to come out second best in any interrogation they run. What we (US) get will be in their (PAK/ISI) best interest, not ours.

Posted by Free Radical 2010-02-19 12:18|| 2010-02-19 12:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Malik is a 2 faced bastard. He says one thing and it will be different next week.

Posted by Shineng Ebbolush2214 2010-02-19 14:03|| 2010-02-19 14:03|| Front Page Top

#9 Large electrical electrodes in each large muscle of your thighs and the current to run through your genitals , clear.

BlackBart, it's my understanding based on what I've read here and elsewhere that we stop at waterboarding and sleep deprivation, having determined that the electrode thingy yields bad results as well as being against policy. Oh, and the occasional scantily dressed female interrogator demonstrating who really is the bad guy's daddy.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-02-19 15:10|| 2010-02-19 15:10|| Front Page Top

#10 Good ideas. After you squeeze 'em dry, shoot them in place. Why chance the US Justice Dept.?

Posted by mojo 2010-02-19 16:38|| 2010-02-19 16:38|| Front Page Top

#11 This bit from a graf in the Times:
Officials with the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, Pakistans military spy agency, limited American access to Mullah Baradar, not permitting direct questioning by Central Intelligence Agency officers until about two weeks after the raid, according to American officials who discussed the issue on the condition of anonymity.

Posted by Free Radical 2010-02-19 17:05|| 2010-02-19 17:05|| Front Page Top

#12 #8 - on the money - you forgot lying a-hole. He's part and parcel of the problem with the Jihadi-loving Pakland culture. He strokes internal agitation, invokes Islam, demonizes the west, and then pretends cooperation. A good target, I'd say

Posted by Frank G 2010-02-19 17:58|| 2010-02-19 17:58|| Front Page Top

#13 Compromise...
Just tie them down naked in a room full of hungry minks.

Posted by 3dc 2010-02-19 18:45|| 2010-02-19 18:45|| Front Page Top

#14 If the minks are truly hungry, 3dc, they can be fully clothed and unbound -- it won't matter. Minks are nasty little beasts by all accounts, quite unlike ferrets. But let's not think about such things. Besides, where would they find minks in Pakistan?

Posted by trailing wife 2010-02-19 23:21|| 2010-02-19 23:21|| Front Page Top

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