Apparently, Doyle had combined red phosphorus and iodine, two chemicals used to make methamphetamine, in a film canister. He then stuck the canister in his pocket when the social workers showed up. "He didn't know what he was doing, and it started boiling on his leg," Stanfield said.
"Ooch! Ouch!"
"Hey! Put those back on! I'm a lady, y'know!"
The reaction of the two chemicals heats up to about 278 degrees Fahrenheit before exploding, according to the Messenger.
"Duck, Maude! His drawers are gonna blow!"
"The state might have to destroy the vehicle," Stanfield said. "The car is contaminated now."
"Eeeewww! Ucky!"
Sheriff's deputies found a meth lab on the premises and arrested Tammy Conley, 29, as well as Doyle, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The case workers were treated for minor injuries in LaFayette. Doyle was taken to Erlanger Medical Center in nearby Chattanooga, Tenn., with second- and third-degree burns to his testicles and leg.
"Hokey smokes! Hey, Nurse! Look at this!"
"My Gawd, Doctor! They look like fried oysters!"
A religious teacher raped a five-year-old girl in a mosque in Kushtia while another girl of the same age was violated in Jhenidah in separate incidents on Sunday. Kushtia police said religious teacher Zohurul Islam, 26, son of Sahidul Islam of Masan in Mirpur upazila, used to give Al-Quran lessons at Masan Bazaar Mosque. On Sunday, after end of such lessons, Zohurul did not let the girl go home. Instead, he lured her by a mango to stay there. And when the other kids left the mosque, he raped the baby girl at about 4.15 pm. As the girl cried for help, locals rushed to the scene and rescued her. They took her to local health complex. Later as her condition worsened, she was shifted to Kushtia General Hospital. Local people captured the rapist and confined him to the mosque. Later police arrested him the same day. A case was filed with Mirpur Police Station.
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no 4 witnesses? It's her word againt his...obviously she was fetchingly dressed in her Hello Kitty burqa. An Imam can't be expected to restrain himself in the the presence of such a little vixen
Sick F&*k is exactly right. Execute the bastard, publicly and painfully
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I'm saving my outrage until the court decides to stone this little ho to death.
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His defense? She asked for it. Ought to know her place. Whatcha bet they'll let him go?
How cryptic is the phrase "her condition worsened". Poor little girl. We may never know what happened to her, but we can be sure, if she survived, she'll get the message from her culture that she asked for it. What a mess this will leave in her head.
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Interesting that the Imam of the same Islam who's extremists who sent 3000+ americans to their deaths partialy in part for our immorality takes time out of his day to rape and (from the medical accounts) in doing so severely injure a young girl after Quran class.
The hypocracy here is so thick it can be sliced with a knife.
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His hypocracy aint what needs slicing.
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Aug. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Gasoil futures in London rose to a record for the sixth day in seven trading sessions on concern OPEC production won't be able to meet rising demand for energy.
Crude prices, which passed $44 a barrel in New York, have been near record highs for the past two weeks. Gasoil, which in July averaged more than $350 a metric ton, has risen on supply concern, continued strong demand and alerts about possible terrorist attacks in the U.S.
The August contract rose $6 to $378.25 a metric ton on the International Petroleum Exchange in London at 5:37 p.m. The price is now 5 percent above the previous high, which occurred in October 1990 when the Iraqi military occupied Kuwait.
European demand for gasoil, which can be refined into diesel, has caused some shipments of the product to move there from the U.S. The 60,000-ton ship Difko Chaser was loaded July 27 to take gasoil from the U.S. Gulf Coast to European markets, according to Bloomberg data.
``Prices are so high that they can open up different types of arbitrage,'' said Francis Riley, an oil-products trader with Saras SA in Milan. ``Obviously, it's hitting the consumer at the moment.''
The president of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, Purnomo Yusgiantoro of Indonesia, told reporters in Jakarta today that Saudi Arabia can't raise output immediately to bring down oil prices and that prices are ``crazy.''
An unidentified Saudi official later said the country can pump as many as 1 million extra barrels a day if needed.
Crude oil for September delivery gained 42 cents to $40.40 a barrel in London. Crude oil has 38 percent in the past year.
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Bill Murray in London at at wmurray1@bloomberg.net
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Oddly enough, the price of regular unleaded recently dipped to $1.99/gal at one particular Arco station here in the South Bay, has been trending downward rather slowly over the past couple of weeks.
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I expect that the price will continue up until after the leadership crisis in Venezuela is resolved. There was an article last week about how a large cache of C4 is missing out of a military deport. I would expect that to mean that Chavez has either ordered the polls bombed in areas unfriendly to him or maybe he has had the oil-wells rigged the way Sadaam did.
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Venezuela, an OPEC member state, under Chavez has allowed al-Qa'ida to 'train' and operate within Venezuelan soil? Why, since he is not a Muslim? Radical leftist Chavez hates the United States just as the Islamic fanatics.
Many oil traders are concerned about 'real' shortfalls in global energy supplies and Chavez is the kind of rat, if he power base is really threatened could cause a major headache for crude oil's winter supplies.
My opinion, with crude hitting $44.24 today, we are heading for at least $60 if there is a major terrorist attack on U.S. soil, or Arabian oil falls under an on slot from Saudi terrorists.
Maybe by Christmas current energy costs will look real cheap. Heating oil is the next concern as the Fall months shall soon be upon us.
One note of interests. In November of 2003 a crude oil option contract, with a strike price of $40 per barrel could be bought for around $250 for the month August-04. That same contract is worth over 5K currently!
We are about to repeat that energy history over the next 4 to 6 months.
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I have never understood how world events impact increased gasoline prices at the pump. I'm quite naive about the whole process and that's probably why I'll never get rich. We get most of our oil for domestic use from stable countries like Canada, Mexico, Nigeria...and yes there's Saudi Arabia and Venezuela, too. Are we paying more because of OPEC artificially increasing the prices? or is it the 7 Sister oil companies getting greedy for profits? or is it because our military wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is putting an extra demand on petro so it becomes more precious? Can anyone explain to me why someone in the stable USA should be paying so much for gas when the danger to oil productivity is way far away?
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President Ãlvaro Uribe is prepared to create a second safe haven for two rival paramilitary factions in southern Colombia on the condition that the groups declare an immediate cease-fire and begin disarming, his office announced on Monday.
The offer came five days after three commanders from the largest
paramilitary group, which is involved in fragile talks with the government in a northern safe haven created in May, vowed in a highly unusual appearance before the Colombian Congress that they would never agree to a deal that would lead to their imprisonment. In the havens, paramilitaries are shielded from arrest.
Mr. Uribe, whose two-pronged strategy for pacifying the country calls for co-opting right-wing death squads and battling Marxist rebels, called on the two paramilitary factions to end their conflict over cocaine or be shut out of talks with his government.
As an incentive, the government is prepared to create a second safe haven and possibly a third, so the two groups will have a secure zone in which to disarm and hold talks, said Martha MartÃnez, a spokeswoman for Mr. Uribe's peace commissioner, Luis Carlos Restrepo.
The government's announcement was criticized by some political analysts, who say the peace talks are in trouble because the government has been ceding ground without pushing the paramilitaries to stop their violence or admit to their crimes.
"This process is in a crisis of credibility," said Daniel GarcÃa-Peña, a former peace commissioner here. "The president has time to rescue the process if the conditions are well established and they make them comply. But the government has hard rhetoric one day, and they make concessions the next."
One of the paramilitary groups, the Centauros Bloc, led by Miguel Arroyave, is part of the country's largest paramilitary group, the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, which is carrying on peace talks with the government in Santa Fe de Ralito in the north. Commanders of the group are offering to demobilize if the government guarantees they will not be punished for crimes including mass murders and drug trafficking.
The second group, the Peasant Self-Defense Forces of Casanare, led by MartÃn Llanos, is conducting separate talks with the government.
"We're talking about two more zones, or that the Centauros group will concentrate in Santa Fe de Ralito," Ms. MartÃnez said. "It is a given there will be at least a zone for Llanos."
On Friday, Mr. Llanos met with Mr. Restrepo, the peace commissioner, and told him that a zone was needed for the talks. Last Wednesday, one of the three commanders who visited the Congress, Salvatore Mancuso, also called for more safe havens, where paramilitary commanders and troops would be shielded from arrest and extradition to the United States on drug-trafficking charges while they negotiate.
Mr. Uribe is clearly open to creating the zones to further the talks, but under the condition that paramilitary groups cease hostilities. Though informal talks with various factions have been going on all year, the groups have continued killing labor leaders, human rights workers and peasants and trafficking in cocaine.
In the government's statement on Monday, Mr. Uribe directed his ire at Mr. Llanos and Mr. Arroyave, saying, "If these conditions are not met in the coming days, the national government will end the peace process with these two groups."
The paramilitary groups were formed more than 20 years ago by rogue military officers, landowners and drug traffickers to combat leftist rebels by killing their supporters and taking back territory. They quickly turned into major drug-running outfits, and several paramilitary commanders are now wanted in the United States on drug-trafficking charges.
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I like Uribe better as a second baseman for the White Sox.
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I'm willing to take it if it means that "end[ing] the peace process with these groups" consists of kicking their collective asses ...
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A number of Finnish conscripts have been excused their full term of military service because they are addicted to the Internet, the Finnish Defense Forces said Tuesday. How about if I'm addicted to babes?
Doctors have found the young men miss their computers too much to cope with their compulsory six months in the forces. Must be Rantburgers
"For people who play (Internet) games all night and don't have any friends, don't have any hobbies, to come into the army is a very big shock," said Commander-Captain Jyrki Kivela at the military conscription unit. They'd be much better off at a high tech start-up.
"Some of (the conscripts) go to the doctor and say they can't stay. Sometimes, the doctors have said they have an Internet addiction," Kivela said. Every piece of paper the soldier sees he picks up and reads.
There are no official figures for the Internet addict dropout rate. "Nope, that's not it," he says.
"They get sent home for three years and after that they have to come back and we ask if they are OK ... they will have had time to grow up," Kivela said. Drives his sergeant nuts, so the seargeant puts him in for a section 8.
Finland called up 26,500 men in 2003, nine percent of whom were relieved of duty for medical reasons. Sergeant calls the soldier in in and tells him he's being discharged and hands him the paperwork.
However, the Internet drop-outs have not dented national pride in "sisu," a Finnish quality of being tough and resilient. Soldier reads the papers but for once says nothing. Sergeant asks him if anything is wrong. "Nope," the soldier says, "this is what I've been looking for.".
"We are very proud of our Finnish men. Eight-two percent of all Finnish men manage their whole military service," Kivela said.
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Too bad for Corporal Klinger that computers and the internet weren't around in the 50's. Ready made Section 8. Plus, look and the money he would have saved on dresses.
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Eight-two percent of all Finnish men manage their compulsory service. Others have their own compulsions.
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sisu vs. juche!
I don't know, girlie-men who can't live without their computers vs. people who live off grass and rock soup-- you decide which is the top national quality/philosophy.
A Saudi embassy official alleged to have indecently assaulted a girl aged 11 at a London party will be sent home in disgrace despite a plea for him to be investigated here. The 41-year-old man, who is a senior member of the Saudi Embassy and works "closely with the Ambassador", claimed diplomatic immunity when Scotland Yard officers questioned him. He is reported to have allegedly molested the youngster in a bedroom at the Holland Park home of another diplomat from a different embassy during a party. He was arrested on Monday morning last week and taken to a police station, but officers had to release him when he claimed immunity. If he had committed the alleged crime in his home country the man, thought to come from a wealthy family, could be beheaded or face death by stoning. A worker at the Saudi Embassy said: "If he was married and committed a sexual act with a child and there were four witnesses then he could be stoned to death, but if he was not married he could get 100 lashes."
"Unless it was a infidel maid, in which case there is no crime."
But, because of his family's connections, it it is unlikely that he will face any severe punishment, just disgrace in the diplomatic community, although he may be detained for a short period by Interior Ministry officials, who deal with interrogation.
"So, how was she?"
Megan Bruns, a project manager for Kidscape, said: "It would be a miscarriage of justice to give someone special privileges. Crimes are committed by people of all statuses." Ms Bruns added: "The victims are violated and abused for the first time by the perpetrators and the law will violate and abuse them a second time." Scotland Yard said it is taking no further action and has reported the matter to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, which wrote to the Saudi Ambassador asking for immunity for the suspect to be waived. The Ambassador has yet to reply to that request, sent last week. Latest figures, from 2002, show that 20 serious offences — those that could normally result in a jail term of a year or more — were allegedly committed by individuals from among the 20,000 protected by diplomatic immunity.
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How is a master member of the MasterRace supposed to know the infidels would get their panties into a knot over a little game of hide the Salaami? That little hussy had been legal for at least two years. It says so in the Koran.
Disgraced? I think not. He can just be posted to a brotherly Islamic country. They understand such things.
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4 witnesses huh?
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I'm sure the official was simply performing his religious duties of raping children just like the Prophet used to do.
The U.K. should be more tolerant of his religion and simply look the other way or provide him....
(Sorry.... just can't go on with this sarcasm....).
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Scotland Yard really needed to lose this "diplomat's" passport and paperwork for a few days so he could get a real appreciation for what he should be facing. Britain needs to strongly consider screening all future candidates for replacement of this maggot in ways that make life miserable for the Saudi Legate in Britain.
President Vladimir Putin praised Poles who fought Nazi occupiers 60 years ago in the Warsaw Uprising, saying they made a major contribution to the Allied victory and calling for the two nations to put negative "stereotypes" about each other behind them. "In Russia, the courage and selflessness of the Polish fighters of the resistance have never always been highly praised," Putin said in a message to Polish President Alexander Kwasniewski. "Their feat is immortal, and the sacrifices that your people suffered will remain forever in our historical memory."
In a separate statement addressed to veterans of the uprising and all Polish citizens, Putin said the "courage and selflessness of millions of true sons and daughters of Poland who fought against Nazism will always remain in the memory of Russians."
Remind me, Vlad, was this always true?
The uprising has been one of many sources of animosity between Russia and Poland, because Josef Stalin's Soviet Army stood by on the east bank of the Vistula River while the Germans brutally crushed the uprising. Putin enthusiastically praised the Polish fighters and suggested that bad blood over the uprising should be relegated to the past. He called the uprising "a weighty contribution to the common victory over Nazism." "The heroism of the Warsaw residents, among whom there were people of various political convictions, became yet another glorious page in the chronicle of the Second World War," Putin said.
Okay, so what is it that the Poles have that Vlad wants?
He said relations between Poland and Russia should be "equal, oriented toward the future and free of stereotypes," apparently referring at least in part to Polish perceptions of Russia as an enemy or a domineering master -- the legacy of a history that has included wars and decades of Soviet-era subservience to Moscow. Since the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of the Soviet Union, Poland has drawn further from Moscow by joining NATO and the European Union. Putin has sought to shrug off that blow to Russia's pride, but he has warned that the eastward expansion of the Western organizations should not cast up new boundaries in Europe.
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This is a sore point amoungst Poles. The Red Army on the right bank of the Vistula in August 1944 and in contact with Polish resistance, according to the Poles, dithered and delayed and refused to help the uprising, and allowed it to be crushed by the Wehrmacht.
Some writers claim that the delay was deliberate since the Soviet Union wanted to eliminate any chance the Polish right could have a say in post war politics, and I have read some writings that the decision to help the uprising was up to the site commanders (albeit with commissar whispering what could happen if the Red Army did intervene)
Surely Putin is aware of this rather unsavory element of history.
Reading Russian literature and speaking/writing to some Russians/Ukrainians, you come away with the impression that in the Slavic world, there is a pecking order and the Russians are firm in the saddle. Poles and Ukrainians are near the bottom in some Russians' estimation.
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I have a toast for the wedding party! As our family members stood by and watched as your mother getting raped and murdered, we want you to know how impressed we were as we witnessed her brave struggle.
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Okay, so what is it that the Poles have that Vlad wants?
Putin needs "right of way" through Poland for Russia's oil pipeline to Western Europe. Putin needs everything to stay "happy, happy" with Poland. http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/nte21861.htm
Putin enthusiastically praised the Polish fighters and suggested that bad blood over the uprising should be relegated to the past.
I don't think that the Poles will ever forgive or forget what the Russians did. The pipeline is strictly a joint business venture.
The Poles were egged on to the Warsaw Uprising by the communist underground, who of course, did not participate in the uprising themselves. The brave Polish cavalry charged the German tanks on their horses holding lances as their paltry weapons. The Poles were slaughtered, while the Russian army stood by and watched. Eventually the Russians overwhelmed the battle weary Germans and the communist underground came out from under their rocks to greet them. Very sad.
And then there's the Russian slaughter and wholesale burial of Poles in Katyn Forest, which the Soviets denied until recently.
Moral of these 2 stories: America should never trust the Russians.
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rex, don't forget the other moral:
the Polish are fierce fighters and it's just terrific that they're such a big part of our Coalition!
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There's another less pleasant moral for the Poles, which is unlikely to be forgotten and is responsible for most of the antagonism towards the west: just like the Russians, the Americans and British can't be trusted as well. Don't forget that Roosevelt and Churchill played a big role in this betrayal, even though it was the Russians that did most of the damage.
I keep telling you guys, Poles are not so pro-American as people seem to think. In a sense, I don't blame them.
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Good point, Rafael.
To give him the benefit of the doubt, we'll never know if FDR would have supported Churchill against Stalin at Yalta to keep Poland free.
Leaving Poland open to Soviet takeover was one of the worst outcomes of the WWII peace.
THE celebrations to mark Gibraltar's tercentenary of British rule have turned the waters choppy between EU partners Britain and Spain, which maintains a historical claim to the tiny rocky outcrop on its southern coast. The British Government's decision to send Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon to attend the commemorations has sparked fury in Madrid with the Spanish seeing the move as an unfriendly and unwarranted act.
The British delegation will attend a slew of events scheduled for tomorrow's official celebrations, which include a midday special session of the territory's House of Assembly or parliament before an early evening parade at which the Royal Navy is to receive the freedom of Gibraltar.
Gibraltar, whose population numbers just 30,000, has been a British dependent territory since 1704 when British-led troops captured the "Rock" on August 4. The Treaty of Utrecht of 1713 officially awarded Britain sovereignty but Spain has never accepted the decision.
Spanish forces capitulated in 6 hours of battle, not one of their finest days.
This year has seen a series of diplomatic spats with a British nuclear submarine, HMS Tireless, making a second visit in four years last month. In May 2000, Tireless put into dock to have its reactor cooling system repaired and stayed for a year. The June visit of Princess Anne, the first visit to the Rock by a British royal since the Queen made a brief stop-off 50 years ago, further inflamed Spanish passion and the war of words has escalated as the tercentenary celebrations have neared.
Awwh, Zappie isn't happy.
This year's commemoration essentially kicked off last Saturday when the British frigate HMS Grafton sailed into port with flags flying and guns firing.
Despite a weekend attempt by Spanish Deputy Prime Minister Maria Teresa Fernandez de la Vega to cool a growing row by saying her country would seek to "go down the diplomatic road" to reach a settlement, the war of words continued apace yesterday - on both sides. The opening volley was fired by Gibraltar's Chief Minister Peter Caruana, who told Spain it was "none of their business" to criticise the commemoration. "We are not celebrating the sort of military battles fought and won by British forces in 1704, we're celebrating the 300th anniversary of British sovereignty and our relationship with Britain, which has been mutually beneficial and which has given us everything that we have and which we value," Mr Caruana told BBC radio.
"How we choose to celebrate our very close links with Britain and our British sovereignty are a matter for us. ... Frankly for the Spaniards, after 300 years of Gibraltar being British, to try and lecture us on how we should commemorate that is really none of their business and somewhat impertinent," Mr Caruana added.
"So buzz off!"
Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos responded by saying the opposition his country was expressing diplomatically to Mr Hoon's visit, which comes just five weeks after that of Princess Anne, was only an attempt by Madrid "to convey the feelings of the Spanish people in the wake of acts which we consider should not have happened".
At the weekend, a Socialist Party colleague of Mr Moratinos, Alfonso Perales, had upped the ante by calling on Britain not to "behave as countries did in the 18th and 19th centuries with regard to colonies".
You mean, give land away without regard for the rights of the people who live on it?
Other events will include naval displays, concerts and a street party, while a human chain will encircle the Rock tomorrow to signify that Gibraltar "is not for Britain to give or for Spain to have", as one organiser noted on Saturday. As Gibraltarians, who voted overwhelmingly to oppose British and Spanish moves to move towards eventual shared sovereignty in a 2002 referendum which neither London nor Madrid recognised, prepared to party, it emerged that a US warship which was to have taken part in the proceedings had pulled out.
Mr Caruana, learning of the news yesterday afternoon, dubbed the move a "huge snub" which "will not be forgotten in a hurry". The American nuclear submarine USS Albany was recently in Gibraltar but Mr Caruana said he believed that the US State Department had instructed the US Navy to withdraw the ship under protests from Spain.
We shouldn't have done that.
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So what's the magic number. Do the Brits get to keep it after 300 years or is Spain going to accept as equally valid Muslim claims to most of the Iberian peninsula that are just about as old? Right.
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Two words: Ceuta & Melilla. Are the Spaniards intent on returning their colonies? Nope. Neither are we.
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I've heard that the Spanish POV on this is that Ceuta & Melilla are "integral" parts of Spanish territory, while Gibraltar simply has "dependency" status with its residents not being able to vote in UK elections.
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Oh, in that case hand it back then. Frrrp. Not a great difference really.
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My own view on this is in favour of either making it a true part of UK, or of Spain, or giving it independence, depending on what the people in it themselves want.
But I don't much care for these halfway "dependency" solutions, where a country governs over people that have no say on that country's government.
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I think the votes of 500 million Indians would have skewed our domestic election results somewhat - therefore not a practicable part of empire building. The Gibraltarians held a referendum on joint sovereignty in 2002 and voted 99% against. I think the Spaniards rather seem to want to have their cake and eat it.
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HMS Tireless? What a stupid name! How many subs have tires?
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This is simple. do we stand by our stalwart ally of over a century or do we hop in bed with a coward whose combat endurance is measured in hours?
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The Brits should keep it, force the Spanish to appease them. Step on them just as Al Queda has done.
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Mr. Davis, I think you have the answer to your rhetorical quesiton from the the US State Department:
"the US State Department had instructed the US Navy to withdraw the ship under protests from Spain"
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Light off a few fireworks. That should get Zappy running to the French border.
As for Puerto Rico, how about Americans voting in a referendum forcing Puerto Rican independence? Better yet, since the Spanish seem intent on territorial expansion and PR doesn't want independence, why not pawn PR back to Spain?
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But I don't much care for these halfway "dependency" solutions, where a country governs over people that have no say on that country's government.
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That should get Zappy running to the French border.
...into the arms of waiting Basques???
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But accurate, Steve. :-p
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The Moroccans and Spanish had a tiff a couple of years ago, I believe, over some rock a few hundred meters off Moroccan coast. Powell had to step in. Spanish army left, but not before letting off a few smoke bombs so as not to allow photographers the opportunity to shoot Spaniards bringing down Spanish flag. So, Aris, Moroccans don't care what's dependent or integral in Spanish eyes. Ceuta(Sebta) and Melilla(Mellilia) are just as Moroccan as Gib is Spanish, forget about nuance, complexity, and other UN/diplo- speak. You can bet that if the Spanish flag ever flies over Gib., then hundreds of thousands of Moroccan civilians will swarm into C and M. Just check out what Moroccans did in '70's re Sahara. It was called the Green March. All trucks were mobilized to take folks to old border and they walked in and Spain caved.
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Ceuta(Sebta) and Melilla(Mellilia) are just as Moroccan as Gib is Spanish, forget about nuance, complexity, and other UN/diplo- speak
Don't forget the result of the vote though.
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Steve, Raj> Uh, cold about what? If there was a stab in there, I didn't get it. Is this about the junta of the colonels trying to overthrow the Cypriot government 30 years ago? Is it about something else?
Explain it to me, and then perhaps I'll get offended -- but more probably because of your ignorance than of anything else.
Bomb-a-rama> for Puerto Rico, how about Americans voting in a referendum forcing Puerto Rican independence?
From what I've heard I think Puerto Rico would be more likely to accept statehood than independence, if it was forced to choose one way or another.
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I'm with Steve--we should have backed up the Brits here!
Control of the Mediterranean has never been more important and what is our problem to worry about hurting Spain's feelings?
They didn't give a damn about ours when it came to Zappy pulling those troops out of Iraq!
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The Spanish lost their way after 3-11 and the Iraq cave-in. Let the Brits hold onto Gib. Someone has to keep at least one half of the "Pillars of Hercules" approach to the Med safe.
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Aris,
Every so many years the Independent P.R. group forces through a referendum. The electorate divides fairly evenly into thirds: 1/3 for independence, 1/3 for the 51st U.S. state, 1/3 to continue the status quo. We in the US would very much like to regularize the situation one way or the other, but the Puerto Ricans haven't yet figured out what they want.
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trailing wife> This: http://www.gymnasium.garching.de/projekt/intel/puertorico/options.htm
and this: http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa031698.htm
and this: http://gbgm-umc.org/country_profiles/country_history.cfm?Id=125
all suggest that the pro-independence movement in Puerto Rico is actually quite small, 5% of the population or less. The only truly popular options are either statehood or continuation of the status quo -- and if continuation of the status quo was taken off the table I'm pretty confident that the Puerto Ricans would vote for statehood -- pretty much *all* of the pro-status quo folk would have to vote "independence" for the alternative to happen.
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I would welcome either vote - I'd just like them to shoulder responsibility as well as gains... Roosevelt Roads and Viecques still piss me off. The demagogueing was atrocious and done by those who didn't understand W can make ya pay for stabbing friends (France didn't catch that, apparently). TS assholes
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The German government is under growing pressure to hold a referendum on the new European constitution after 30 of the country's most eminent legal scholars declared that federal law could easily be changed to allow a vote. Opinion polls show that 70 per cent of Germans want a vote on the treaty but Chancellor Gerhard Schröder has refused to follow the British and French in staging a referendum.
"Even if we wanted to have a vote, which we don't, we would not be allowed to. Plebiscites are illegal under German law," Bet they'd go nuts in California!
he said last week, declaring that his government would override public opinion yet again and seek only parliamentary approval for the EU constitution this year. That figures.
The legal scholars have, however, undermined Mr Schröder's claims. In a joint statement published last week, 34 professors, led by Hans Herbert von Arnim from the university of Speyer, declared: "A small addition to the text of the [German] constitution could enable the German people to vote in a referendum." But what's a little lie among friends, eh, Gerhardt?
The letter said that a vote was "necessary" because Germans had been denied the chance to elect directly members of the European convention, which drew up the EU constitution. No, really?
Previously, they had been denied a vote on whether to join the euro. What do they think they live in, a democracy? It must suck being German.
German politicians were surprised when Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, caved in to pressure for a referendum earlier this year, and shocked when President Jacques Chirac followed suit last month. Mein Gott in Himmel! iiiiieeeeeeeeeee!
Edmund Stoiber, the conservative Bavarian prime minister who ran against Mr Schröder in Germany's 2002 general election, declared last week: "If the French, the British and the Spanish are to hold a referendum on this issue, the Germans cannot be barred from the process." Mr Stoiber's views are echoed by Roman Herzog, Germany's former conservative president, who argued recently that Germany faced the prospect of being the "only country in Europe" not to hold a referendum.
Other advocates include Guido Westerwelle, the leader of the country's liberal Free Democrat party, Wolfgang Thierse, Germany's Social Democrat parliamentary president, leading Green party MPs and at least five of Germany's 16 regional branches of Mr Schröder's governing party. Ooooo, looks like they're ganging up on Gerry-baby. GOOD!
Like that's hard.
Wolfgang Schauble, the former Christian Democrat party leader, warned: "There is a danger that a referendum on the EU consitution would lead to a vote that has nothing to do with the EU at all." Yeah, like a vote that their present government SUCKS.
Reflecting the prevailing mood in the Berlin chancellery, Michael Muller, the deputy head of the Social Democrats' that's redundant
parliamentary party, added: Wait for it......
"Sometimes the electorate has to be protected from making the wrong decisions." Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding! The leftist elite crawls out from under his rock. And how, exactly, is this different from having a king in charge?
Shrillery and the Dems would love this guy.
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Berlin 2004, Berlin 1938, the arguement is still the same.
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That's cold, Don.
Accurate, but cold. :-p
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" argued recently that Germany faced the prospect of being the "only country in Europe" not to hold a referendum."
European leaders remind me of my High School student council.
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"Sometimes the electorate has to be protected from making the wrong decisions." When I first read that I thought it was part of the Dems talking points.
"Germans had been denied the chance to elect directly members of the European convention." Back in 1776, we called that "Taxation without representation." You know the rest of the story!
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I hate to be in the position of agreeing with an EUnuch, but he has a point: there are limits to democracy.
We have no method of initiative, recall, or referendum at the federal level. Nobody asked the people to vote whether to join the UN, or any of the various international treaties we've signed. Heck, we don't even let the House vote on it. The Constitution also says that even if we wanted to, you can't "democratically" vote to impose slavery, shut down the Catholic church, and so on.
The ratification of the Constitution was by representative assemblies (albeit elected specifically for that purpose), not by a popular vote.
Eeeeeuuu. I am going to take a shower now. You lie with socialists, you rise with fleas.
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lie down with social democrats, rise with a program to combat flees,financed by a tax on dog owners. Conservatives will denounce its incompetence and bureucracy - libertarians will call for owners to be responsible for their dogs flees, and if a flee jumps from their dog to you, sue em - conservatives will get mad when dog owners are sued and will call for limits on damages. Meanwhile harder core socialists will call for greater expenditures, and will blame the programs problems on the insecticide industry, which should be nationalized. Third wayers will attempt to reduce the programs costs by allowing the govt to contract to private exterminators, in place of civil servants, and by eliminating services to wealthy dog owners. Communists will call for the deaths of dogs, other than those historically associated with the working class. Paleocons will blame the entire problem on flee bitten foreign dogs, and their immigrant owners. Neocons will develop a plan to transform the global attitude towards pets, but will forget to provide adequate resources.
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"But whatâs a little lie among friends, eh, Gerhardt?"
Let's not have Rantburgers distort facts either. If you'd actually read the sentences you were commenting on you'd understand that he spoke the complete and absolute truth when he said that such referendums are illegal under the current constitution. Those other people didn't disagree with him, they simply said that they should *make* them legal by *changing* the German constitution.
It's interesting to see one paragraph from the beginning thta you chose to cut away -- the one that said: "Mr Schröder insists that Germany cannot do so because the country's post-war constitution expressly forbids extra-parliamentary plebiscites, to make it harder for an extremist party to seize power."
Ofcourse *that* paragraph wouldn't help your nice parallels with Nazi Germany.
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LH, True about the communists, but about on the neocons. The Russians exterminated an entire breed (the Russian wolf-hound or borzoi) because they were associated with royalty. Fortunately, the royals had given these beautiful and regal dogs as gifts to royals in other countries. So thanks to the ex-patriot dogs, the breed survived. http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/borzoi.cfm
As for the neo-cons â theyâd be more ruggedly individualist on the issue. Theyâd make three points:
1. dogs and cats belonging to responsible pet no longer have fleas (improved technology thanks to research profit-incentives in the free market);
2. if you donât like fleas âstay away from dogs and the beach (sand fleas). Liberals, invoking logic so nuanced that âonly a thinking manâ can understandâ, would start a movement to protect the sand fleas, demanding a $6,000,000,000 environmental impact report to determine the dangers that beachgoers pose to the sand fly breeding cycle.
3. personal injury awards over flea bites is how John Edwards made his millions
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A veterans group seeking to deeply discredit Democrat John Kerry's military service will charge in the new bombshell book UNFIT FOR COMMAND:
Two of John Kerry's three Purple Heart decorations resulted from self-inflicted wounds, not suffered under enemy fire.
All three of Kerry's Purple Hearts were for minor injuries, not requiring a single hour of hospitalization.
A "fanny wound" was the highlight of Kerry's much touted "no man left behind" Bronze Star.
Kerry turned the tragic death of a father and small child in a Vietnamese fishing boat into an act of "heroism" by filing a false report on the incident.
Kerry entered an abandoned Vietnamese village and slaughtered the domestic animals owned by the civilians and burned down their homes with his Zippo lighter.
Kerry's reckless behavior convinced his colleagues that he had to go -- becoming the only Swift Boat veteran to serve only four months.
The Kerry campaign is planning to vigorously counter the charges and will accuse the veteran's groups of being well-financed by a top Bush donor from Texas, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
"They hired a goddamn private investigator to dig up trash!" charged a top Kerry adviser traveling with the senator late Tuesday. "This is pay for play, and the dirtiest of all dirty tricks ever played on a candidate for the presidency. How low can they go?"
Kerry supporters are comparing the effort by the veterans to the Arkansas State troopers tell-all against Bill Clinton.
UNFIT FOR COMMAND will not be released until August 15.
The names. The details. All on the record.
Beginning tomorrow, the DRUDGE REPORT will break the embargo
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I expect that eventually the information about his trying to suppress POW documents will come out.
It appears as if he used his position in power, as the Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, to do the work of his constituents.... in the Vietnamese Government. The documentation at the link includes enough sheepishness at being caught red-handed and magically disappearing & reappearing classified paperwork to make me believe that Kerry is fully capable of bringing back the 90's like he says he intends to.
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Wonder how the Alphabet channels would do under this type of scrutiny? If only I was a bitter middle-aged woman in Boulder with nothing better to do. WITH TONS OF IDLE TIME ON MY HANDS!On the other hand it's good to see the LLL moonbats getting into a hobby. I guess it was either this or go back on the meds. I feel sorry for them in November, I predict a run on Prozac, Zoloft, etc. Buy your stock now!
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"We weren't going from the premise that Fox was unbiased. We approached it from the point of view their slogan 'Fair and Balanced' was fraudulent," McArdle said.
This is the most biased way of conducting research - to approach it with an already predisposed view. Not a wonder they are finding what they want to find. They might do better with their time by taking a class on how to do research.
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AF Lady,
I imagine Fox is laughing its way to the bank. MSNBC's ratings are suffering because all their loony constituents are watching Bill O'Reilly. You would think that there would be loony right-wingers that tuned in Air America for the same reason, but most conservatives understand that the strongest negative message that a consumer can send to a media outlet is the message of indifference.
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That's the problem with John Kerry: it's not that he's rich, but that he's rich in a very un-American way. His swank has a European air about it. When he eats a hot dog, it appears as foreign to him as it did to George VI. Even though his regal lifestyle is funded by the enduring popularity of his wife's hot dog condiment.
Case in point: on Friday, the Kerry campaign bus was passing through Newburgh, north of New York, and stopped at the local Wendy's. The photo-op didn't go smoothly. Kerry went over to say hi to some marines, who turned out to be Bush supporters and resented the interruption to their lunch. More telling was Teresa Heinz Kerry. She pointed to the picture of the bowl of chilli above the clerk's head: "What's that?" she asked. He explained that it was something called "chilli" and she said she'd like to try a bowl. The Senator also ordered a Frosty, a chocolate dessert. They toyed with them after a fashion, and then got back on the bus. Odd British spelling of "chili"
It then emerged that Wendy's had just been an appetiser. The campaign advance team had ordered 19 five-star lunches from the Newburgh Yacht Club for Kerry, Edwards, Affleck and co to be served back on the bus: shrimp vindaloo, grilled diver sea scallops, prosciutto, wrapped stuffed chicken, etc.
I'm not sure whether Ben had the shrimp and Teresa the scallops, but, either way, it turns out John Edwards is right: there are two Americas - one America where folks eat at Wendy's, another America where the elite pass an amusing half-hour slumming among the folks at Wendy's and then chow down on the Newburgh Yacht Club's specials of the day.
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Reminds of the story a pilot told of Sinister Senator Kerry and his entourage devouring his flight crew's only food for the day before Kerry left the plane for a sumptuous banquet. Man of the people indeed! (Maybe the Marines had heard the story too and were just guarding against another food raid.)
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GK, I haven't heard that story. But it reminds me of when Hillary visted the troops in Iraq and cut in line in front of everyone else (which was totally against protocol). "Do you know WHO I AM?".
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CF, here's the story as it appears in Urban Legends:John Kerry is known for behaving rudely towards others around him. Barbara Mikkelson couldn't determine the origin or veracity of the letter but did say that it fits with Dave Barry's own experience with the Senator at the ski resort in Idaho. Long but interesting.
EFL
Joanne Drake, the chief of staff for former President Ronald Reagan's office in Los Angeles, said in a statement on behalf of the former first lady, "Mrs. Reagan supports President Bush's re-election 150 percent." I would have been happy with 100%.
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Think maybe Mama's a wee bit embarrassed by her favorite son's performance at the DNC?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
08/03/2004 8:52 Comments ||
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I think the Reagan kids have specialized in embarrassing Mom
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/03/2004 9:44 Comments ||
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Frank - Ron and Patty, definitely, but not Michael.
Can't remember if Maureen did or not.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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Michael was adopted, and he and Maureen have set the bar way above Patty and Ron Jr's reach
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/03/2004 12:38 Comments ||
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Frank - I know, but since Reagan himself never differentiated, I won't either. And yes they have.
GK - Ouch! LOL.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
08/03/2004 14:39 Comments ||
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Bwahaahahhaaa! So much for Kerry's attempts to trade off the star power of The Gipper!
Posted by: B ||
08/03/2004 16:09 Comments ||
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But...but those liars intrepid investigative journalists at Capitol Hill Blue say "Nancy Reagan has told close followers she believes Bush and the current Republican leadership have divided America with their extreme views. She has told Republican leaders she wants nothing to do with the party or Bush."
And, after all, those are the same people who broke the earth-shattering "news" that Bush is hopped up on goofballs.
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obviously kerry doesn't even understand the process of the congress - first you have many hearing in sub-committees (which is happenning now) then go to committee then to the floor for vote....i guess all those times he has benn absent is clouding his memory....
Posted by: Dan ||
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Isnt Kerry's attendance 37 absents in 58 sessions or something to that effect? If I decided that I was going to only show up to work only 10 days a month Im pretty sure I would be fired. Just a thought.
I noticed Berger was mentioned. Does anyone know the latest on him?
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08/03/2004 18:12 Comments ||
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37 of 49 intelligence committee hearings is what I heard on the AM today
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/03/2004 19:05 Comments ||
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In a March 10, 2002 Boston Globe op-ed piece co-written with the late children's TV star Fred Rogers, the would-be first lady said: "We pray that one day we will view Sept. 11 as an isolated catastrophe, triggering a successful world campaign to try to understand the roots of international terror as well as to work cooperatively to remove it." It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood! Would you be my co-author?
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Hey Taaa-ray-saaa, can you say "shove it"? I knew you could.
Posted by: Jonathan ||
08/03/2004 12:40 Comments ||
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the roots of international terrorism lie in a corrupt, authoritarian political culture in most of the Islamic world, which we are starting to transform, beginning with Iraq.
I cant wait for Theresa to explain that THAT is what she meant.
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Terrorism is nurtured my arrogant, snobbish and power grasping Mozambiqui heiress harridans. Pray that one day after Nov 2, we will see you as an isolated catastrophe, and will be as irrelevant as the land you were born in.
Posted by: ed ||
08/03/2004 12:51 Comments ||
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Anybody got any aspirin? Even though I'm dead, my head's killing me from all this spinning I've been doing in my grave lately.
Posted by: The Late Senator John Heinz ||
08/03/2004 12:52 Comments ||
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LOL!
Posted by: Frank G ||
08/03/2004 13:05 Comments ||
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Well, shoot. Let's just send her over to talk to the S.O.B's and see if her opinion holds.
Posted by: Jim K ||
08/03/2004 13:27 Comments ||
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"Let them eat cake"
That should do it.
Posted by: john ||
08/03/2004 13:46 Comments ||
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With this despicable statement, she reminds me just exactly what the boiling point of my blood is. Teresa-I like opinionated women-I just can't stand ones who are inclined to "understand" terrorists' reasons for bloodbaths.
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...She's starting to make me consider Hillary Clinton as downright cuddly...
Mike
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"We pray that one day we will view Sept. 11 as an isolated catastrophe.â Hardly my Afrikan Queen. 9/11 was the culmination of decades of Islamofacism left unchecked by the U.S. On the other hand Afghanistan and Iraq should be viewed as the places where the U.S. said ENOUGH! And November 2, 2004 will be the day that the Democratic Party loses all hope of ever gaining control of any house in the government. FOUR MORE YEARS!
WASHINGTON (AP) - Lockheed Martin won a contract Monday to develop a spy plane for the Army and Navy, the military announced. The plane, called the Aerial Common Sensor, will replace two Army spy planes as well as one operated by the Navy, the Army's Communications-Electronics Command said in a press release. The command is based at Fort Monmouth, N.J.
The airframe will be built by Brazil-based Embraer. The plane will have a radar and a system to intercept communications, the Army said. The contract, worth $879 million, specifies that Bethesda, Md.-based Lockheed develop and test the plane. Future contracts will cover the purchase of the operational model of the aircraft. The military expects to spend $7 billion on the Aerial Common Sensor program over its lifetime, an Army spokesman said.
Lockheed beat rival defense firm Northrop Grumman for the contract.
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Embraer has aggressively pursued military applications for its EMB-145 Regional Jet, and there are a number of distinct configurations for various surveillance missions, with more planned. EMB-145 recce
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"Leg Room is everything in a decent spyplane"
Even in these com-air based stand-off types, there is always a chance of having to make a hasty exit, so that is a legitimate consideration.
During the Falklands War of 1982, Argentine Learjets flew recce missions near and sometimes over the British forces. These aircraft were normally used for civil-oriented photo-mapping, a task for which various Learjet are widely used around the world. They did fairly well in the combat environment with several dozen successful sorties and a single loss (to a Sea Dart SAM toward the end of the conflict).
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Replacement for the old KingAir (Guardrails). We used to say that the guys who flew these special mission aircraft proved that there were still heroes.
The Army will announce today it has contracted with International Business Machines Corp. to build one of the world's fastest supercomputers to help develop more effective weapons systems. The Defense Department will spend about $15 million on the supercomputer, which will be housed at the Army Research Laboratory's Major Shared Resource Center in Aberdeen, according to Dave Turek, an IBM vice president.
The supercomputer will perform at a peak speed of 10 teraflops, or 10 trillion mathematical operations per second, Turek said. A person with a calculator would need 8 million years to finish calculations the supercomputer can make in one second, he said.
Last week, the Navy selected IBM to build an even faster computer, at a cost estimated at less than $100 million, to produce weather forecasts for fleets at sea.
The Army's new supercomputer -- nicknamed "Stryker," after an armored Army combat vehicle -- will run on Linux, a free, "open source" operating system that is a rival to Microsoft Windows. "These high-performing computing systems allow us to understand the physics behind" how weapons systems work, said Charles J. Nietubicz, director of the Army's research lab in Aberdeen. For example, Nietubicz said, the Army may seek a lighter substitute for a 70-ton tank but "we can't make it more vulnerable. ... We can use composite materials, which may be stronger than steel in some cases. But how do we know it's going to work? Well, you use supercomputers to give the engineers and scientists a handle on whether it's even practical."
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Stryker," after an armored Army combat vehicle -- will run on Linux,
After an armored vehicle 'eh. Hmmmm, probably should ask Sgt. Mom about this.
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Tech ignorance? Supercomputers never, ever run on Windows OS.
And don't get me started on RPGII. Why would you put the page eject column next to the line feed column? [leading to an unfortunate use of massive amounts of paper in an unsupervised printer]
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Sounds like they're still trying to make an armored vehicle that can be transported without major disassembly on a c-130 and can still take a hit from an RPG.
Sorry guys, unless somebody comes up with a recipie for unobtainium, bolonium, or transparent aluminium an rpg resistnt vehicle is going to be at least 42 tons and be too bulky to cram into a c-130.
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Is there an engineering or logistical challenge to making the plane fit the tank instead of the tank fitting the plane?
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The problem is the C-130 is being built and has congressional supporters whose constituents vote. The new armored vehicle is employing no one except a few consultants. Guess which one Congress wants to keep as is and which one needs to be modified to deal with reality.
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running on Linux? Sun should have gotten with the program.
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08/03/2004 23:04 Comments ||
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B - Naw, screw Scott McNealy - he's a scumsucking liar, smarmy bastard, and a pluperfect prick... and I didn't like him very much, either. Of course he's no Larry Ellison, that'd be a few more rungs down.
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and down is up, up is down, black is white, left is right, allan is merciful and compassionate, Islam is the superior religion blah blah blah blah....
EFL
Singer Don Henley was booed at a concert in Orange County, Calif., after mentioning his friendship with Linda Ronstadt, who gained national attention after alienating much of her audience with a song dedication to leftist filmmaker Michael Moore. That's Reagan country, isn't it?
One comment began: "Given what my good friend Linda Ronstadt âŠ" but was interrupted immediately with a chorus of boos from the audience. According to the Register, Henley responded: "Whoops —Orange County," adding, "We used to be able to have civil debate in this country. Not anymore." Well, we used to be able to go to the movies or a concert and enjoy ourselves. Now, we have a growing group of pompous-ass, self-important, icons of idiocy preaching to us about how evil President Bush is. Hey, Henley: Shut your pie hole and perform like you are paid to do. Otherwise, bugger off. Now where was I...
"[Henley] really blindsided everyone," Joshua Owen of Long Beach told the local paper. "There was booing. Some people headed for the exits." That's becuase most people just wanted to enjoy a few songs and have a cold beer (and a pinch of Skoal!). That's all.
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I paid to see you sing a song little monkey, perform for me, and keep your halfwitted opinions to yourself while you're on my dime.
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Henley responded: "Whoops âOrange County," adding, "We used to be able to have civil debate in this country. Not anymore."
Cool! An open mike debate at a concert.
Wait a minute.
You're telling me there was no open mike and therefore no debate? A captive audience who paid YOU to sing, but you mention a debate, but no open mike??
So I guess Henley is right. There is no debating leftists when their idea of a debate is to pontificate about their views to a captive audience who paid to see something entirely different.
Henley just told an egregious lie. Perhaps someone should ask these entertainer clowns if they would pay hard earned money to hear a leftist jerk off about their politics. I wouldn't.
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Nah, Don. Orange County's got nothing to do with it. When you make your yearly publicity stunt tour to Mass. to "save" Walden Woods, most people here think you're an out of town Hollywood asshole poking his nose in where it don't belong too. But I suppose we could have a civil debate over it.
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Shut up and sing, and I will give you your coke money. Inflict your politics on me, and I take my money to the next nostalgia act that comes to town.
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Amen, badanov. How funny that Henley (whose music I do like) says we used to have civil debate-like he was going to do anything other than cast aspersions on the Bush administration. The left only insults and slanders, which we are to to swallow without thought or question. I said it before, I'll say it again-they think their freedom of speech is our obligation to believe. Nonsense.
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According to the Register, Henley responded: "Whoops âOrange County," adding, "We used to be able to have civil debate in this country. Not anymore."
Wrong answer. A CONCERT is not a forum for "civil debate". If that's what Henley wanted, he'd do well to organize a round table discussion at some local Ramada Inn or Marriot's or something.
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Let's face it - showbiz people are flakes. If I'm not going to take my politics from a doctor, a physicist or a lawyer, I'm certainly not going to take it from a showbiz personality.
A U.N. team has found three mass graves with nearly 100 bodies from a firefight last month between rebel factions in Ivory Coast, the world body said Monday. Rebel officials previously said only 22 people died during the July 20 to 21 fight between two rival insurgent leaders. But U.N. investigators looking into violence at Korhogo, a major city in the west African nation's insurgent-controlled north, found three mass graves holding 99 dead from the battle Jean Victor Nkolo, a spokesman for the U.N. mission in Ivory Coast, told The Associated Press. It wasn't possible to determine if the dead were rebel fighters or civilians, Nkolo said.
Wonder if the FFL has any culpability?
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The Ivory Coast's cocoa bean prices keep climbing with each adverse breaking news item.
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UN-always digging up dead people, never stopping them from becoming dead.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
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