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2004-08-03 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Steve White 2004-08-03 12:00:21 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 South Korea has played down the significance of the North Korean boycott, saying Seoul remains committed to engagement with the communist state, which is in dire need of assistance to revive its moribund economy.

The Norks do not need assistance, they need to fall so the North Korean people can be saved from their madness.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-08-03 12:15:29 AM|| 2004-08-03 12:15:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 NK should look at the issue philisophically - after the reunification, everybody will be together again anyway. What's a little defection among family?

Posted by Super Hose 2004-08-03 12:35:41 AM|| 2004-08-03 12:35:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 So how did they get to Vietnam? (the host country?)

Posted by Shipman 2004-08-03 9:18:17 AM|| 2004-08-03 9:18:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 via China, Ship.

It may be hard to get from Nork to China, but apparently its not at all hard to move around China - i mean youve got millions of Chinese moving around from rural areas to urban labor markets, and the Chinese seem to rely on pass programs in the cities to try to control that.

As for crossing from China to Viet Nam, a I suppose thats not to hard either, since VN is a lower wage country than China, and probably doesnt expect to get hordes of Chinese coming in.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-08-03 9:34:14 AM|| 2004-08-03 9:34:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hmmmm - wonder how eager they'll be for talks when the first snows hit?

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-03 9:48:43 AM|| 2004-08-03 9:48:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 The South Koreans donât want the North Korean government to fall. They saw what re-unification did to Germany and know that absorbing their North Korean âbrothersâ would destroy their economy.

They hope to very slowly change the North Korean government. They want to put off the crisis.

China has concerns about refugees and instability along the Korean border. In addition China doesnât want a country friendly to the US along the China-Korean border.

âHmmmm - wonder how eager they'll be for talks when the first snows hit?â

The North Korean leaders care little for the peasants. Starving peasants are viewed as a good way to get international money that can then be spent on the leadership and the military.

Since the US, China, South Korea, and North Korea have different interests; the problem wonât be resolved by negotiation.

Posted by Anonymous5032 2004-08-03 11:19:56 AM|| 2004-08-03 11:19:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 âSince the US, China, South Korea, and North Korea have different interests; the problem wonât be resolved by negotiation.â

I stated that poorly. Since they have very different and incompatible goals, the problem wonât be resolved by negotiation.

Posted by Anonymous5032 2004-08-03 11:23:50 AM|| 2004-08-03 11:23:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Successful negotiation requires good will and compromise of positions. I do not see that anywhere, so nothing will happen. Anon 5032 brings out the point well in #6 above. The SKors don't want the north to fall fast. Neither do the ChiComs. So nothing will happen, except possible NORK nuclear blackmail. Great problem solving. Sheesh!

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-08-03 1:06:35 PM|| 2004-08-03 1:06:35 PM|| Front Page Top

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