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China-Japan-Koreas
AEP: Beijing hints at bond attack on Japan
A senior adviser to the Chinese government has called for an attack on the Japanese bond market to precipitate a funding crisis and bring the country to its knees, unless Tokyo reverses its decision to nationalise the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu islands in the East China Sea.
Posted by: tipper || 09/19/2012 06:39 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  95% of Japanese bond buying is internal. Sounds like the Chinese state will yet again be wasting their countries money.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/19/2012 8:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Governments actually still SELL bonds to a market? I thought they now just print them and buy them from themselves.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/19/2012 8:36 Comments || Top||

#3  ...sometimes known as the Bernanke Bundle. (also see hyperinflation)
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/19/2012 9:02 Comments || Top||

#4  The gulf between evil baby boomer fixed incomes, pensions, and the real cost of living widens further. Glad I have a wheelbarrow.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2012 9:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Chinese are going after Japanese web sites too. But that's nothing new. They come after the server I administer every day. You gotta keep up with your computer security when there is an entire division of the PLA dedicated to hacking. It just goes to show the kind of people they are.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 09/19/2012 11:50 Comments || Top||

#6  That could drive the yen down badly.
Posted by: Shipman || 09/19/2012 17:11 Comments || Top||

#7  FYI see also CHINA DAILY FORUM > [Russia Today] cCHINA TO CRIPPLE JAPAN WID FINANCIAL WAR OVER ISLES ROW.

* Also, TOPIX > CHINA DECLARES ECONOMIC WAR ON JAPAN.

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LOOKS LIKE "FISH/FISHBOAT DIPLOMACY" IS SLOWLY DEVOL INTO DE FACTO "FISH/FISHBOAT WARFARE"???,
as at last check, the Japan Coast Guard is repor sending up to 50 JCG Cutters to the Senkakus - on its part, China has approximately 11 CMS vessels + one processing ship in same. AFAIK A TOTE OF 14 CHINESE + JAPANESE STTAE VESSELS ARE IN DAOYUS/SENKAKUS WATERS - 12 CHINESE AS DESCRIBED, + 2 JAPANESE COAST GUARD.

OTOH, as per WORLD MILITARY FORUM, CHINA = repor detached two PLAN FRIGATES to widin 80 nautical miles of the Daoyus/Senkakus. * unconfirmed*.

* WORLD NEWS > [Japan Coast Guard] JCG: 11 CHINESE SHIPS [CMS] NEAR DISPUTED ISLES.

* SAME > [Daily Yomiuri] CHINA TIES SENKAKUS ROW TO HISTORICAL CONFLICTS [Colonial + Wartime], PROTESTS AT KEY SITES AIMED AT STIRRING ETHNIC SENTIMENTS [Nationalism], ISLAND PURCHASE COUNTS AS OBSTRUCTION TO INTERNATIONAL ORDER.

* SAME > THE ISLANDS THAT DIVIDE SUPERPOWERS.

Or, in corollary, MAKE-OR-BREAK.

[1960'S GUAM TAOTAMONAS + ENEMY-DENYING ISLAND(S)-SINKING "EARTHQUAKE/TECTONIC BOMBS" here].
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/20/2012 0:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
American capitalism gone with a whimper - Pravda
Posted by: Mercutio || 09/19/2012 13:12 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker."

Seems to be a lot of truth in this article .... Pravda. I didn't want to say it. "Chesnaya Slova"
Posted by: Au Auric || 09/19/2012 15:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Marxism has failed everywhere else. It will fail here too despite occasional hiccups in our history such as now. I don't think the author understands America or our history. We don't particularly like jackboots no matter who wears them.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/19/2012 17:47 Comments || Top||

#3  ...well, some of us don't. The Left appears to be fond of them and amazingly among the 'intellectually' gifted that roam our institutions of supposed higher learning.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/19/2012 19:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Lest we fergit, GOOD OLE' 1990's FASCISM-FOR-COMMUNISM'S "COMMUNIST-CAPITALISM" AKA
"COMPITALISM".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/19/2012 19:29 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Hate by the textbook
[Dawn] Alma maters play an exceedingly important role in the development of children who can later on become contributing members of a progressive society. If I have to be honest, I would say that I was never too fond of going to school and my only incentive to wake up early in the morning and make that effort was to meet my friends. I went to a convent where life was just a little too proper for my liking. Chants of "heads straight", "do not slouch" and "do not drag your feet" dictated the order of the day along with a strict curriculum and minimum extra-curricular events.

In retrospect, I now personally believe that attending a convent contributes to some of the best experiences of my life. Students from various religious orientations studied at my school and we coexisted wonderfully; the thought of numerous religious philosophies and how one worshiped never crossed our mind. I clearly remember that one of my favourite teachers focused more on religious harmony than his course outline. His curriculum was customised to ingrain the essence of tolerance within students who belonged to diverse backgrounds. "Regardless of whose teachings you follow, stay close to God and respect humans for who they are as every individual is unique and God's best creation," was one of his most frequently used phrases, and will always be a source of solace for me in today's world.

Unfortunately, the things we were taught in school came to an abrupt end when I left for college -- a different story altogether. The first time I heard the term "Jihad against Kafir" during one of the mandatory course session, I immediately looked around to see how those words affected my non-Moslem friends. Their expressions were a mixture of sheer disgust and hopelessness, and an uncomfortable silence shrouded them.

How can we expect our society to become tolerant when our textbooks are filled with venomous content? How can we expect our children to become progressive when we expose them to violent literature, and at such an early age? By using words such as "Hindus can never become true friends for Moslems" and using adjectives such as goondah for Hindus and fanatic clergymen for Christians, how are we possibly trying to teach our youth to be more compassionate or embrace different religious philosophies?

People professing different faiths are not the only targets of the hateful content that is featured in our textbooks. A handful of countries and their citizens are also treated with overzealous hatred, with India topping the list. Why don't we realise that spreading hatred and intolerance has never brought any positive change in our own society? We corrupt young minds by turning their intrigue into fear and eventually Indophobia.

It is important to understand that by playing with the minds of our children this way we are giving rise to a hopeless society where rights and values of anyone who is not a Pak and a Sunni Moslem are irrelevant. Children are impressionable and by designing curricula which fan hatred and deny the idea of coexistence, we are encouraging them to become religious fanatics.

How about designing a curriculum which emphasises religious harmony, where the role of Jihad is given minimum significance and India is termed as a brotherly nation? What about building the foundation of a society in which Indo-Pak wars do not take precedence over human and civil rights movements? Why can't our curriculum include all the positive aspects of different religions and educate children about the teachings of different prophets, thinkers and philosophers?

I must reiterate that by pumping negativity into our future generations we are neither inflicting any harm to our friends across the border or non-Moslems living elsewhere. The brunt of this so-called "academic fanaticism" is only faced by Moslem and non-Moslem minorities living in Pakistain. Hence, the hatred taught to our children affects only Paks, and harms only our nation.

The statistics show that over 21.5 million Paks, more than half of the population, are illiterate. Whereas, the other half of the country that have the resources and the will to acquire knowledge undergo this hate filled conditioning through the curriculum, and become resentful to people who are different from them, almost by default. Most of us were never taught to appreciate diversity and the difference of beliefs. We were always instructed to consider Hindus, Jews and Christians our enemy but is that truly so? Are we actually so significant and enviable that the whole world is conspiring against us? Why do we need to create fundamentalist soldiers who would defend us from the alleged connivance of other people? Why this paranoia?

Further research and interaction with these so-called enemies of Islam and Pakistain will perhaps help us understand that our basic ideologies remain the same. Most of us are affected and concerned by the same issues of the global state of affairs. We all feel threatened by the presence of radical elements and wish for a peaceful society. The cost of blood and tears of a Hindu are no less than those of a Moslem or Christian. The loss of a Jewish life is as tormenting and saddening as that of a Moslem. Indian children whose parents die in violent attacks are as bereaved as the children of Pak families whose lives are cut short in the event of a suicide kaboom or drone strike. Given the current state of affairs, shouldn't our primary concern be focused more towards promoting a multicultural society?

The government, amid many other commitments, has announced that the curricula will be cleansed of all hate generating material; however, concrete measures to address the issue are yet to be taken. I hope that the literature is changed and redesigned to accommodate the less than two per cent of the minorities and a fairly large percentage of Moslem minorities living in Pakistain. I hope that our curriculum features facts rather than fabricated stories of heroism that gives us a notion of false honour about ourselves.

William Shakespeare once said, "Ignorance is the curse of God; knowledge is the wing wherewith we fly to heaven."

The academia should realise that by disfiguring the actual history and creating a sense of animosity between Pak Moslems and the rest of the world we are truly raising an ignorant generation which will continue to spread hatred if the status quo is not challenged.

Our hope lies in tolerance, unity and religious harmony. In the absence of the aforementioned elements, our society will sooner or later collapse. It is time to replace ignorance and intolerance with eagerness to learn from what other religions teach. It is time to concentrate on the similarities that we all share. And it is indeed time to impart true knowledge to our students -- the knowledge of respect, harmony and tolerance.
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  A rather remarkable column out of Pakistan. I hope it doesn't cost her an acid attack or such.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/19/2012 8:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Education in the muslim world and intolerance taught from a young age is root of all troubles in the world.
Posted by: Paul D || 09/19/2012 10:00 Comments || Top||

#3  As a catholic going to a catholic school and church i was not taught to hate other religions.Why is this taught in muslim countries?
Posted by: Paul D || 09/19/2012 10:09 Comments || Top||

#4  note that this moderate muslima quotes Shakespeare and her beloved convent teacher in arguing for tolerance

of course the non moderate muslims quote the Koran, the haddith, the sunna, the fatwas of Shariah

that explain the problem right there
Posted by: lord garth || 09/19/2012 12:17 Comments || Top||

#5  I can't comment on Pakistain, but in India sending ones children to a private school run by the Jesuits is considered the pinnacle.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 09/19/2012 17:25 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
All-Out Middle East War As Good As It Gets
Red meat analysis from Spengler with his own special pepper rub, seared and sizzling straight off the grill. Yum!
If a contrarian thought might be permitted, consider the possibility that all-out regional war is the optimal outcome for American interests. An Israeli strike on Iran that achieved even limited success - a two-year delay in Iran's nuclear weapons development - would arrest America's precipitous decline as a superpower.

Absent an Israeli strike, America faces:

A nuclear-armed Iran;
Iraq's continued drift towards alliance with Iran;
An overtly hostile regime in Egypt, where the Muslim Brotherhood government will lean on jihadist elements to divert attention from the country's economic collapse;
An Egyptian war with Libya for oil and with Sudan for water;
A radical Sunni regime controlling most of Syria, facing off an Iran-allied Alawistan ensconced in the coastal mountains;
A de facto or de jure Muslim Brotherhood takeover of the Kingdom of Jordan;
A campaign of subversion against the Saudi monarchy by Iran through Shi'ites in Eastern Province and by the Muslim Brotherhood internally;
A weakened and perhaps imploding Turkey struggling with its Kurdish population and the emergence of Syrian Kurds as a wild card;
A Taliban-dominated Afghanistan; and
Radicalized Islamic regimes in Libya and Tunisia.

...There is no reason to expect most of the Muslim countries to go quietly into irreversible decline. All-out regional war is the likely outcome sooner or later. We might as well get on with it.
Posted by: || 09/19/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I've been wondering the same thing....
Except I don't see Obama protecting the strait of Hormuz.
Posted by: Water Modem || 09/19/2012 2:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Islam is the fastest growing religion on the continent of Africa. Radical Islamic groups have been working quietly with the African National Congress (ANC) for decades. When you see the term "Iraeli Apartheid" that is where it originates.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2012 3:46 Comments || Top||

#3  An Egyptian war with Libya for oil

I think this is pretty likely, Egypt is dirt poor and will get poorer, but it does have a decent military, which Libya doesn't at the moment. Egypt could annex the southern oilfields in a week.
Posted by: phil_b || 09/19/2012 3:46 Comments || Top||

#4  The Soodies appear to be pumping oil rather vigorously of late. Appears to be no comment or challenge from OPEC.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2012 4:02 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't see Turkey imploding, I see Turkey taking advantage of the situation to gob-smack its Kurds, hold down the Syrian Kurds, and maybe even reestablish some de-facto hegemony over northern Syria.

Also recall that Algeria is none too stable and that radical elements are just barely controlled in Morocco.
Posted by: Steve White || 09/19/2012 8:56 Comments || Top||

#6  B. My understanding is that Christianity is the fastest growing religion in Africa. Though there is no doubt that radical muzzies are working with radical ANCers.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/19/2012 9:46 Comments || Top||

#7  A strike by Israel would likely draw the U.S. into the fray even if "O" does not want to protect the Straits of Hormuz. Iran said it would attack us and our interests if Israel attacks their nuke facilities. I'd worry that Obama might attack Israeli forces in an attempt to stop an attack on Iran.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/19/2012 9:52 Comments || Top||

#8  The Soodies appear to be pumping oil rather vigorously of late.

They probably need the cash. After all they're going to have to buy a large slice of Manhattan to house those thousands of princes & princesses that will be bugging out just as the shooting starts.
Posted by: AzCat || 09/19/2012 10:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Speaking of those folks AzCat, has anyone heard anything about our friend Prince Bandar ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2012 10:14 Comments || Top||

#10  Either Bandar has left the country to take up surfing on some remote beaches ... or as you say (Besoeker) he has failed to collect the company benefits.
Posted by: Raider || 09/19/2012 11:14 Comments || Top||

#11  Yes indeed. "Not getting killed, that's the key to the benifit programme".
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2012 12:50 Comments || Top||

#12  An Egyptian war with Libya for oil

I think this is pretty likely, Egypt is dirt poor and will get poorer, but it does have a decent military, which Libya doesn't at the moment. Egypt could annex the southern oilfields in a week.

You don't know how lucky you are, boy...
Back! In the U.A.R.!
Posted by: Shinter Javirong9154 || 09/19/2012 14:26 Comments || Top||

#13  Yes indeed. "Not getting killed, that's the key to the benifit programme".

Sepentine, Bandar! Serpentine!
Posted by: Shinter Javirong9154 || 09/19/2012 14:28 Comments || Top||

#14  No! go back and do it again!
This time with serpentine motion!
Posted by: Shipman || 09/19/2012 17:12 Comments || Top||

#15  Bandar sips tea with Allen.
Posted by: Secret Asian Man || 09/19/2012 17:20 Comments || Top||

#16  It is the second best they wanted to film a new television series called Flip That Country since the housing market bust which was all fraud by the way they couldn't get Hildi and Jen to do the shows though! So all out slaughter will have to do!
Posted by: Angiting Snore1647 || 09/19/2012 17:53 Comments || Top||

#17  We fergot our ASYMMETRIC, REGIONAL + GLOBAL
"NUCLEAR TERRORISM" [Nuke-WMDS] this AM, didn't we???

* FYI DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > LASHKAR-E-TOIBA TRAINING CHECHEN FIGHTERS FOR INTERNATIONAL TERROR OPERATIONS.

The Chechens are coming, the Chechens are coming.

and

* DEFENCE FORUM INDIA > INDIAN MUJAHIDEEN IN RECRUITMENT SPREE.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 09/19/2012 19:37 Comments || Top||

#18  Anyone else notice that the Asia Times comments on this article are almost unanimous in their rabid anti-semitism?
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 09/19/2012 19:49 Comments || Top||


Olde Tyme Religion
Rampaging Islamists
by Daniel Pipes
Posted by: newc || 09/19/2012 08:30 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In sum, Islamists want to impose Shari'a, Westerners are divided, and the battle of wills is just getting started.

As Roger Scruton tell us, there is "The West and The Rest": Globilization and the Terrorist Threat.

If we fail to recognize the spell blinding myth of multiculturalism and diversity we will join the long list of doomed civilizations that litter the ash heap.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2012 10:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Rampaging islamists? Is there any other kind?
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/19/2012 17:49 Comments || Top||

#3  You cannot have a president and various other government officials cave-in on our first amendment and not have allowed Sharia Law to creep into our culture and country. The time is over-due to have a good house-cleaning in Washington.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/19/2012 17:57 Comments || Top||



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Wed 2012-09-19
  Rally against sacrilege: Ten Lahore rioters injured in clash with police
Tue 2012-09-18
  U.S. military suspends joint patrols with Afghans
Mon 2012-09-17
  Libya arrests 50 after US envoy's killing
Sun 2012-09-16
  Yemeni official: DNA tests did not prove the killing of Al-Shihri
Sat 2012-09-15
  Al Qaeda in Yemen urges Muslims to kill U.S. diplomats over film
Fri 2012-09-14
  Pakistan orders anti-Islam video block on YouTube
Thu 2012-09-13
  Egyptian protesters, police continue to clash near U.S. Embassy
Wed 2012-09-12
  US Official Killed In Libya Prophet Protest
Tue 2012-09-11
  Somali election: Hassan Sheikh elected as president
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  Yemen says kills deputy regional head of al Qaeda
Sun 2012-09-09
  Three injured in blast at Indonesia ''bomb workshop''
Sat 2012-09-08
  Canada breaks off relations with Iran
Fri 2012-09-07
  Pakistan evicts Save the Children foreign staff
Thu 2012-09-06
  Drone Strike in Yemen Kills 5 'Qaida' Militants
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  20 Civilians Killed, 50 More Injured in Nangarhar Suicide Attack


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