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2022-01-19 Britain
Day 5: Texas Synagogue Attacker Was Known to UK Security Service MI5, Judged as No Risk
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Posted by Besoeker 2022-01-19 02:11|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [381 views ]  Top
 File under: Tablighi Jamaat 

#1 Yet questions remain unanswered over how Akram was able to travel and gain access to a handgun given his long history of extremist behaviour.

A "question" or mystery to some possibly. Unfortunately, Akram is unavailable for questioning or interview. More to the story? No, why do you ask ?
Posted by Besoeker 2022-01-19 02:21||   2022-01-19 02:21|| Front Page Top

#2 So. Should Britain be designated a terrorist exporting country along with Packystan, Iran, and Chicago?
Posted by Blackbeard Barnsmell6454 2022-01-19 03:12||   2022-01-19 03:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Removed from the watch list following "a little over a year" of inactivity. Does that mean Akram had undertaken some sort of illegal activity in each of the previous 20 years... thus keeping him on the list ?

According to recently released MI5 Sources and Methods, being a solid chap for 12 months or so places one in good standing again.

School Board meeting terrorism obviously has a higher priority at the Bureau. But, but, but MI5...they never call, they never write.

Cynical, suspicious, and untrusting? Yes, all three. Adding to that, I simply don't believe it all.


Posted by Besoeker 2022-01-19 05:15||   2022-01-19 05:15|| Front Page Top

#4 Sorry if I've missed this, but did he bring the gun with him through airport security or did he find one lying on the side of the road after he got here?
Posted by Matt 2022-01-19 07:19||   2022-01-19 07:19|| Front Page Top

#5 I'd imagine his handler the cleanest guy in the "homeless shelter" he allegedly stayed at after arriving in Texas, sidled up to him and said, "People find stuff, you know, things, under the mattresses here..."
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-01-19 07:33||   2022-01-19 07:33|| Front Page Top

#6 REF #4: Reportedly bought a gun on the street.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-01-19 08:06||   2022-01-19 08:06|| Front Page Top

#7 Gun Violence descended (upon his soul)
Posted by Merrick Ferret 2022-01-19 08:07||   2022-01-19 08:07|| Front Page Top

#8 Brandon said (somebody told him) he got the gun 'on the street'.

Maybe in Chicago. Or Dallas.
Posted by Bobby 2022-01-19 08:24||   2022-01-19 08:24|| Front Page Top

#9 He probably got it from one of the myriad gun vending machines littering the country.
Posted by Lowspark 2022-01-19 08:24||   2022-01-19 08:24|| Front Page Top

#10 Forgot the sarc/ tag. Y’all calm down anyway. This will be forgotten by yesterday . No dancing grannies were even harmed.
Posted by Lowspark 2022-01-19 08:33||   2022-01-19 08:33|| Front Page Top

#11 /\ Yes, in low orbit over the memory hole as we speak.
Posted by Besoeker 2022-01-19 08:39||   2022-01-19 08:39|| Front Page Top

#12 #9 - or one of them Pandemic-Era Gun Shows
Posted by Frank G 2022-01-19 08:51||   2022-01-19 08:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Issued from one of the Dallas mosque caches?
Posted by Skidmark 2022-01-19 09:00||   2022-01-19 09:00|| Front Page Top

#14 So, just to recap:

1- Guy is on MI-5 bad-guy list for 20 years but then is taken off it for good behavior. Does that mean MI-5 reviews its bad-guy list periodically, or was this a special request?

2- Guy doesn't have two nickels to rub together but manages a transatlantic flight to JFK.

3- Security at JFK doesn't flag him. Does airport secuirty have access to the MI-5 bad-guy list? Was he also on the FBI bad-guy list and was taken off of it also?

4- Guy gets to Colleyville Texas and somewhere along the line acquires a gun. Buys a gun from someone even though he just got to the US. "Hello, infidels! Anyone got a gun they want to sell me?"

5- Guy goes to a specific synagogue and takes hostages.

6- Hostages self-rescue, contrary to early reports of an elite FBI team doing the rescuing.

7- Guy assumes room temperature before he can be interrogated.

Yeah, I don't see any holes in that story. No doubt a lone wolf.
Posted by Matt 2022-01-19 09:54||   2022-01-19 09:54|| Front Page Top

#15 /\ FBI nearly beats Colleyville Police Department, Texas State Police, and Rangers to Beth Israel synagogue. Media makes it clear "local Law Enforcement in charge of the scene, not FBI." FBI seen setting up SATCOM (secure communications package) in nearby parking lot. POTUS given hourly briefings, FBI HRT from Quantico flies to Coffeeville along with 60-70 others from D.C. Everything wrapped up and body bag zipped in less than 12 hours. Pats on the back all around.... and more:

‘Let them go,’ Aafia Siddiqui’s attorney says in video for Colleyville synagogue gunman

Gunman in Texas synagogue standoff was thrown out of a local mosque for erratic behavior days before taking hostages
Posted by Besoeker 2022-01-19 10:19||   2022-01-19 10:19|| Front Page Top

#16 Repeat of my comment late yesterday.

The FBI didn't breach to save the hostages, they reacted to the Rabbi leading an escape as an opportune moment. Anyone notice they never mentioned this in all the hero-worship erupting afterwards?

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/rabbi-threw-chair-at-gunman-in-escape-from-texas-synagogue/
Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-01-19 11:01||   2022-01-19 11:01|| Front Page Top

#17 to the list of questions

did he just let himself into the Synagogue or did someone meet him at door and let him in
Posted by Lord Garth 2022-01-19 12:02||   2022-01-19 12:02|| Front Page Top

#18 He was let in, Lord Garth. At the other link today, just added at the top of this article, one of the stacked links gives more detail about the synagogue end of the timeline. I didn’t think to paste all that into the post, but the key bit that answers your question is

When Cohen arrived at the Reform synagogue, Akram was already inside. CBI Rabbi Charlie Cytron-Walker greeted Cohen and told him to say hello to their guest who had been outside in the below-freezing weather and was having a cup of tea.

“All the things they tell you to look for in somebody — eyes darting about, hands being jittery or hidden, facial or body expressions being troubled — he didn’t have that,” Cohen recalled. “He was smiling, he was comfortable, he was relaxed… So I really didn’t think much of it.”

The four CBI members inside began services shortly thereafter.


The thrust of that article is that/how the hostages applied their training from an active shooter course. It’s been previously reported that the rabbi talked about all the security training courses and connections the congregation has done.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-01-19 12:27||   2022-01-19 12:27|| Front Page Top

#19 Safe bet those people are now on a list for making the feebs look bad.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-01-19 12:38||   2022-01-19 12:38|| Front Page Top

#20 thanks TW

do we know how he got from NYC to dallas
Posted by Lord Garth 2022-01-19 20:04||   2022-01-19 20:04|| Front Page Top

#21 Perhaps that will be revealed tomorrow, dear Lord Garth.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-01-19 23:02||   2022-01-19 23:02|| Front Page Top

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