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2021-04-29 Science & Technology

A BIGGER QUESTION REGARDING THE COVID-19 IN INDIA

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Posted by NN2N1 2021-04-29 07:50|| || Front Page|| [9 views ] Top

#1 I was unable to locate your links and make a repair.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-04-29 09:22|| 2021-04-29 09:22|| Front Page Top

#2 2 causes come quickly to mind, there are probably many more
(1) poor keeping of statistics in India compared to the USA
(2) huge difference in age demographics. In the USA the 18 and under age group is scarcely affected by COVID-19 for reasons yet to be determined. Total COVID-19 deaths in this entire demographic are in the 300 range for the USA. Can't quickly find figures for India, 28.6% of all Indians are <= 15 years old. 24% of USA is <= 18. The most highly vulnerable to COVID-19, >= 65 years old compose 5.3% of total Indians, but 13% of USA population.
Africa except for South Africa is also experiencing comparatively little morbidity & mortality from COVID-19.

Posted by Grampaw Phavish2227 2021-04-29 09:31|| 2021-04-29 09:31|| Front Page Top

#3 another possible cause is that on the Indian subcontinent, people are exposed to some nasty tropical diseases, e.g. cholora

if you survive that exposure, you may get immunity to all sorts of other stuff\

Posted by Lord Garth 2021-04-29 09:40|| 2021-04-29 09:40|| Front Page Top

#4 you may get immunity to all sorts of other stuff That is part of it. The other part is, what kind of immunity does one have? A health immune response has many components, and all have to work together properly, in the correct order, and to the correct degree, to fight off infection. The <= 18 demographic is scarcely affected by COVID-19. They would tend to have the healthiest & most well balanced immune systems. Immune deficiencies of various sorts seem to accumulate as we get older. These deficiencies may actually be a key part of physical ailments characteristic of the aging process.

Posted by Grampaw Phavish2227 2021-04-29 09:53|| 2021-04-29 09:53|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe not immunity but regular use of hydrochloriquine and/or other things that might work to prevent catching the Covid.

Posted by rjschwarz 2021-04-29 10:10|| 2021-04-29 10:10|| Front Page Top

#6 #3 Nope, Cholera in here is extremely rare. Majority of them do not get exposed to it.

Honestly, even we are quite confused looking at the stats and numbers. I guess the Government must be hiding the actual data or under-reporting them.

Posted by Wren 2021-04-29 10:42|| 2021-04-29 10:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Obesity vs lack thereof

Posted by Sheba Jones7312 2021-04-29 11:20|| 2021-04-29 11:20|| Front Page Top

#8 The death of dignity: Sons have to squeeze their mother's corpse between them to take her to crematorium and 70-year-old carries beloved wife's body on a bicycle to bury her amid claims of Indian government covid cover-up

Posted by Skidmark 2021-04-29 11:23|| 2021-04-29 11:23|| Front Page Top

#9 I don't trust the statistics in the USA any more than India's. This whole pandemic is so politicized that I don't believe much of anything anymore.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2021-04-29 11:24|| 2021-04-29 11:24|| Front Page Top

#10 Quite frankly, there's just too many Indians and very little empathy lately to go round. Some even believe India will emerge richer with a few less Indians for the openly socialist government to distribute sops to. [There's always a few jolly optimistic f#ckers singing through the darkest nights here.]

Things were under control until the recent elections, followed by local body elections, and stupid festivities around water bodies. I found that the numbers reported are real enough, adjusting for inaccuracies that arise in data collection.

So why is India's Covid-19 numbers so much LOWER

The truth is not easily digestible to our western friends. For one, we have always had excellent prophylactics and immunity boosting stuff [scoffed at and probably unapproved by western big pharma] that has been used for several centuries to give Indians a sturdy constitution even in the face of poor nutrition, exposure to disease and toxins etc. But mainly, Indians are just not militantly averse to government curbs on individual liberty; to wearing masks and fumigating and social distancing and curfews. If the government suggests we stay indoors, for example, the majority will not insist Timmy doesn't have to miss his apple bobbing party, they'll just slap him into watching cartoons. Here, the only stupid bastitch you will find debating the State imposed mask rule or the lockdown, will be some yuppie returned from the US where everyone and his cousin is an expert.

Of course, if civs don't comply we always have this ↓. While this is a prank in the social interest, the real thing is harder to watch.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-04-29 11:51|| 2021-04-29 11:51|| Front Page Top

#11 So, Dron66046 - is India the COVID disaster as reported in the US media?

Posted by Bobby 2021-04-29 12:24|| 2021-04-29 12:24|| Front Page Top

#12 ^ The State has done its absolute best, Bobby.

Even our corporate pharma, hospitals, the entire healthcare industry forsook profits and got into population saving mode faster than any liberal socialist regime has. It's a calamity, like others we've braved. There's just too many people here to cushion the hit before herd immunity develops [however that works]. I'm no expert but what I see around me should be only mildly damaging [with a few silver linings too].

Most of the doom and gloom reportage about India will come from European media, even into the US MSM. They love to depict the Indian side of story with 'hand carts full of bodies, dear lord!' Maybe it's also because Europe couldn't prevent India from manufacturing and supplying much of the world's intermediate chems and the cheaper chloroquine. Also, they are mostly left leaning and approach only the Indian leftists for their 'insights'. These are assholes who'll paint an even bleaker picture so they can discredit the administration.

I believe, the panic factor in this day and age is mostly due to more democratization, liberalization of media and the consistent demand [not unjustified] of the modern voter from his State that it best preserve his/her life.

If anything, this thing will help reign in subversives, jihadis, commies and globalist mercs; maybe even tightening our domestic response routines to mobs and unruly sasquatches.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-04-29 13:25|| 2021-04-29 13:25|| Front Page Top

#13 I was just informed that more youth are being infected with the new strain now. In the past three days, there have been over twenty thousand cases where vaccinated individuals below the age of twenty five were infected. I've never seen so many frightened people.

The private corporations were doing good by us, the citizens were cooperating, even the epidemic was under control. State elections, people celebrating religion and delinquency alone is to blame for what is happening.

Posted by Dron66046 2021-04-29 13:47|| 2021-04-29 13:47|| Front Page Top

#14 The obvious: Gaming how many cycles to run the PCR tests relative to political considerations, thus inflating or deflating 'cases'; massive financial incentives to declare patients covid positive at all levels of patient (and even corpse!) care, which will also massively inflate covid 'cases'. A quick look at flu cases in the US is proof positive that the numbers are being inflated.

Posted by Charlie44 2021-04-29 13:58|| 2021-04-29 13:58|| Front Page Top

#15 Dron, seems like all these statistics should really be reported on a per-capita basis, then followed up with an age-distribution. My initial attempt to normalize comparisons that way does not seem to show any radical difference.

Posted by Glenmore 2021-04-29 15:10|| 2021-04-29 15:10|| Front Page Top

#16 Some additional facts.

INDIA vs. USA

Median ages 44.27 years vs 44.38 years
Age distribution
Population aged 0-14 15.9% vs. 16.71%
Population aged 15-24 11.18% vs. 11.22%
Population aged 15-59 53.89% vs. 51.06%
Population aged 60+ 30.21% vs. 32.24%
Quality of Health care system index 28th vs. 23rd

The only key item I quickly see is the 60+yr/old percentages.
India has 2.03% less over 60 years old, than the USA.

But let us add that India has roughly 4x's the population housed
in an area 3x's smaller than the USA.

So India has had LESS total Covid-19 infections/Deaths than the USA,
despite having 4x's more population housed in 3x's less space.

So much for the Shelter In Place /Social Distancing BS it seems.

BTW: the numbers
I provided are 2019 to date for India and the USA.

Posted by NN2N1 2021-04-29 18:17|| 2021-04-29 18:17|| Front Page Top

#17 Moved to Page 4: Opinion, because NN2N1 asked why after presenting the data he’d found.

Besoeker, his source is Worldometer. I’ve pasted it into the Source box.

Posted by trailing wife 2021-04-29 18:53|| 2021-04-29 18:53|| Front Page Top

#18 The population numbers in #16 are essentially the same. My personal theory involves obesity and vitamin D levels.

Posted by SteveS 2021-04-29 20:33|| 2021-04-29 20:33|| Front Page Top

#19 One thing you left out of your comparison is the US has 100% more Cuomo.

Posted by rjschwarz 2021-04-29 20:33|| 2021-04-29 20:33|| Front Page Top

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