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2020-09-11 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

More than 3.1 million acres have burned in California and 12 people have died as a result of wildfires

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Posted by Fred 2020-09-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Are the wildfires driving the crazies away? Rioting in NY, DC, Rochester, etc?

Posted by Bobby 2020-09-11 08:04|| 2020-09-11 08:04|| Front Page Top

#2 I am hearing from my liberal family and friends in the area that Trump and the Federal government are doing nothing to help (and of course made it happen in the first place because of global warming.)
What is the government doing? I have to think the entire Forestry Service is fully engaged.

Posted by Glenmore 2020-09-11 13:49|| 2020-09-11 13:49|| Front Page Top

#3 CalFire has the lead and most resources

Posted by Frank G 2020-09-11 14:45|| 2020-09-11 14:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Here is Portland daughter's latest missive:
"Trump was so eager to send “help” when there were trash can fires around a federal building. But now, as huge fires are burning up and down the west coast and 500,000 people have been evacuated and almost one million acres have burned in Oregon alone, there is radio silence from the White
House.
I’m furious and feel sick over it.
People are more than welcome to copy and paste or screenshot, but I don’t want to make it public because most of my posts are hidden from my conservative family members, and I will 100% lose every last ounce of my shit if any of them try to argue with me about this."
I honestly never thought I’d see a worse federal response to a natural disaster than Louisiana experienced after Hurricane Katrina, but Trump has proven that he is incapable of being a leader to all Americans. As long as he is in office, he will continue to punish those who dare to deny him the adoration he believes he is owed."

Posted by Glenmore 2020-09-11 16:40|| 2020-09-11 16:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Are those the fires Blamtifa started?

So, is she saying she wants Federal Troops in Oregon?

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-09-11 16:46|| 2020-09-11 16:46|| Front Page Top

#6 Sorry Glen. She's a lost cause

Posted by Frank G 2020-09-11 18:54|| 2020-09-11 18:54|| Front Page Top

#7 100% lose every last ounce of my shit if any of them try to argue with me about this.

Hold onto your butt.

*The western mountainous states have a certification program to qualify as mountain forest fire capable. They call it a Green Card (snicker). Basically it certifies the person is in shape, understands how to use the tools and techniques, and understand the command structure. The rule can be suspended but the wisdom built by the bodies of dead firefighters cannot.

*Sending into mountain roads scores of trucks not built for the mission by people not from the area in conditions not trained fore is a great way to jam up the roads. Also, the increase demand for food, shelter, and gasoline especially could drown out local supplies needed for those evacuating.

*The locals can evacuate with what they want to take and have a place to go. Feds would load people up in trucks with only what they are carrying and take them to an ad hoc shelter.

*The State Guard and Wildland Fire Fighters are well practiced and in some form or another do this year after year. Throwing a bunch of noobs into that mix is quite dangerous. Especially if those noobs think they are in charge when really the fire is.

*What they can do through the FMCSA is suspend restrictions on truckers such as hours driving per day....which was done back in March I believe as a Covid 19 deal; so The Feds are actually 6 months ahead on that game. The Feds can offer financial relief which can be used by firefighters to repair equipment, purchase supplies such as foam, food, and water, help in the use of aerial platforms expenses, so forth. Also, a refugee area can be declared and supported outside the area of operations so as to not interfere with the pros.

This is first and foremost a State operation and they own the successes - the safe evacuation of so many people, the air rescue of 200 campers, the emergency evac through fire roads - and failures - BLM feeling it is a legit move to start additional fires - and I'd guess that the governors have a wormtongue suggesting that if Federal Troops were invited, some would be tasked with stomping out the fires of Blamtifa.

*The emergency is still on-going; to compare Trump's response to Katrina is not legit - it would be like comparing Bush's response to Katrina before the storm is even over.

To be fair to Portland Daughter, this reads like a political hit piece boilerplate message to be copied and pasted.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-09-11 21:29|| 2020-09-11 21:29|| Front Page Top

#8 What she can do is advocate for the disbandment of Wheeler's Stealers who are tying up resources which could be used to further support evacuees and fire operations.

Posted by swksvolFF 2020-09-11 21:33|| 2020-09-11 21:33|| Front Page Top

#9 AZ has barely 1/10th the acres burning as CA despite being barely 1/3 as large geographically.

AZ is hot - hotter than CA.

CA and OR's problems are of their own making. FOAB.

Posted by Clotle Ebberetle5668 2020-09-11 21:44|| 2020-09-11 21:44|| Front Page Top

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