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NY Times on Memorial Day Weekend: US Military celebrates white supremacism
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Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-25 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [333 views ]  Top

#1 While I'm sure their mothers love them, or did at one time, these people are scum. Any other day of the year, this would be business as usual, but on Memorial Day, it's unbelievable. Congratulations on starkly highlighting the divide between the Red and Blue parts of the country.
Posted by SteveS 2020-05-25 00:55||   2020-05-25 00:55|| Front Page Top

#2 /\ I certainly hope "their mother's love them" as they have no fathers.
Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-25 01:00||   2020-05-25 01:00|| Front Page Top

#3 In that case I suggest the outlaw the Democratic Party. It is the party of Slavery and Jim Crow laws after all!
Posted by CrazyFool 2020-05-25 01:02||   2020-05-25 01:02|| Front Page Top

#4 There is a certain perspective in military history that Braxton Bragg did more for the Union in his incompetence than could have been achieved had he not been in command.
Posted by Procopius2k 2020-05-25 07:00||   2020-05-25 07:00|| Front Page Top

#5 The New York Times editorial board, established in 1896 by Adolph Ochs when he became the newspaper’s publisher, is currently composed of 14 writers and editors drawn from the Times Opinion department, which also includes opinion columnists, Op-Ed editors and others.
The Opinion department is independent of the Times newsroom...
"The purpose of Times Opinion is to supply the wide-ranging debate about big ideas that a diverse democracy needs. Amid that debate, the role of the editorial board is to provide Times readers with a long-range view formed not by one person’s expertise and experience but ballasted by certain institutional values that have evolved across more than 150 years. That’s why the editorials, unlike other articles in The Times, appear without a byline.
[If you don't hate America, you don't belong.]
Posted by b 2020-05-25 07:47||   2020-05-25 07:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Are they trying to incite another civil war?

Among the 14 bios listed above, I don't see any flaming SJWs or BLM activists (Sarah Jeong apparently was kicked out). These are for the most part rather boring, largely garden-variety Times staffers. It looks like a stint on the Editirial Board is a kind of sabbatical.

Why on earth are they insulting our nation this way?
Who is behind this?
Posted by Lex 2020-05-25 08:01||   2020-05-25 08:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Choice of words just slay me: "celebrate white supremacy". They are sicker at the "Slimes" than I'd ever thought.
Posted by Clem 2020-05-25 08:10||   2020-05-25 08:10|| Front Page Top

#8 the bulk of the citizenry in the NYT's precious North felt the same way about blacks at the time of the Civil War

but I'm sure the NYTs thinks it was only the Southerners who were racist.
Posted by Bob Grorong1136 2020-05-25 09:42||   2020-05-25 09:42|| Front Page Top

#9 Americans are such excitable people - what does it matter that a rag like NYT (1619 anyone?) says?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2020-05-25 09:50||   2020-05-25 09:50|| Front Page Top

#10 Who's getting excited? We comment on news articles. That's what we kinda do here pretty much, right?

Meanwhile, I can give a rat's a$$ about the NYT.
Posted by Clem 2020-05-25 10:43||   2020-05-25 10:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Letter to the NYT, name redacted:

I abhor racism and those that continue to push any notion of the supremacy of one race of human beings over another, but your article, which I assume is generally historically accurate, fails our nation and its citizens in many ways.

First, Memorial Day is about honoring all those in service who made the ultimate sacrifice -whether or not you might agree with the war(s) in which they fought. Publishing such an article on this day is disrespectful and misses an opportunity to honor our fallen, tell as yet unrevealed stories of sacrifice and valor, and, perhaps, offer some form of solace to our Gold Star families.

Second, It is no secret that the US military is highly diverse with opportunities for all who serve, to include those who are not white, many of whom have achieved the highest positions of rank and responsibility possible. General Colin Powell comes to mind, as does my West Point classmate, General Lloyd Austin. I saw no reference to these two stellar American Patriots, or others like them, nor any mention of interviews for thoughts from those serving or who have served.

Third, while our military services are imperfect, the brotherhood and sisterhood of service is a bond that transcends past wrongs, has nothing to do with the name of a base, and certainly doesn’t translate to the celebration of white supremacism. How many of your editorial board served?

Fourth, the institution of the US military understands selfless and honorable service, and takes action to discipline and/or remove those who fall short.

Fifth, names of military bases, chosen long ago, can certainly be changed if our elected leaders so choose, but to claim the US military celebrates white supremacism is simply nonfactual.

Thank you.


Major General, US Army (Ret)

Posted by Besoeker 2020-05-25 12:24||   2020-05-25 12:24|| Front Page Top

#12 ^ Hooah! Nicely said
Posted by Frank G 2020-05-25 12:29||   2020-05-25 12:29|| Front Page Top

#13 The entire point is to evoke revulsion and disgust. On the one hand as with anything else there is revulsion fatigue, and this type of gibberish helps produce it. Further, by presenting a constant stream of genuinely revolting crap like this they begin to stretch the public perception of revulsion altogether.

Thus, in their next foray into the pulpit most normative people will think, 'Certainly this is morally repugnant, but at least it's not as bad as that aberration they published over Memorial Day.', and the window moves their direction just a bit.

Propaganda isn't there to convince anybody. Certainly anybody who waits 8 hours on line to walk into an empty store knows more about 5 year plans and their architects than any economist.

The point is the control through humiliation. The powers that be will force the people to say and cheer what they manifestly know to be utterly false. Then the trick is to move from ancillary, spaces to areas where personal choice makes judgement more ambiguous, and finally into venues that matter food, energy, financial system.

Not that we ourselves have any, oh, examples of that kind of behavior. Locally I mean.
Posted by Cesare 2020-05-25 13:08||   2020-05-25 13:08|| Front Page Top

#14 Watching "Viet Nam in HD" on History Ch. Tet Offensive - noted that 90% of News coverage on Network News was on VN, and actively showing bad news as the
Posted by Frank G 2020-05-25 14:25||   2020-05-25 14:25|| Front Page Top

#15 Biden says if you served,you can't possibly be black.
Posted by bbrewer126  2020-05-25 16:02||   2020-05-25 16:02|| Front Page Top

#16 They know they're violating American sacred values by shitting on them on a holiday meant to celebrate them. They love it.

It doesn't matter if anyone renames any bases or not. They'll move the goalposts. I mean, the names of army bases is pretty weak tea.
Posted by Spike Grineng8188 2020-05-25 17:09||   2020-05-25 17:09|| Front Page Top

#17 Ochs-Sulzberger family
The Ochs-Sulzberger family, one of the United States' newspaper dynasties, has owned The New York Times ever since. The publisher went public on January 14, 1969, trading at $42 a share on the American Stock Exchange.
Posted by Woodrow 2020-05-25 21:26||   2020-05-25 21:26|| Front Page Top

#18 I love how history gives lefties a belly ache.
Posted by M. Murcek 2020-05-25 21:35||   2020-05-25 21:35|| Front Page Top

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