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2016-06-16 -Land of the Free

US Senator: Get rid of due process ‐ it's "killing us"

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Posted by DarthVader 2016-06-16 10:57|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 "No taxation without Due Process"

Posted by Frank G 2016-06-16 11:37|| 2016-06-16 11:37|| Front Page Top

#2 Due process - in theory - allows the truth to come out because it can't be jiggered to get a predetermined outcome. In practice that's mostly but certainly not 100% true. That said, pols like Manchin (that'd be 99.999% of 'em) don't like the truth coming out, and they don't like processes that can't be controlled for desired outcome (by them.)

Posted by M. Murcek 2016-06-16 11:39|| 2016-06-16 11:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Note that this is not some Leftwing wack-a-doodle in his mommy's basement.

This is not even so commie loving Ithaca professor.

This is a SENIOR DEMOCRAT in Congress!!!!!
The fascists are going so nuts that they're dropping the mask.

If any of you saw my earlier post, it is this kind of $hit that has scared my wife into wanting me to arm up.

Molon Labe, Sic Semper Tyrannis how long before the SHTF for real and all??

Posted by AlanC 2016-06-16 12:17|| 2016-06-16 12:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Douchebags who say shit like this are always assuming, of course, that they will be the ones in charge. That's why Lenin called them useful idiots.

Posted by Iblis 2016-06-16 12:23|| 2016-06-16 12:23|| Front Page Top

#5 Here we go. Obama's experiment of removing due process for men via Title IX across our public universities has been a major success - and has not gone unnoticed by the democrats. Prior to this experiment they never would have uttered such insanity. Now they feel they have a tried and true model with to achieve their goals combined with an incident seen as favorable for just such a move.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2016-06-16 12:53|| 2016-06-16 12:53|| Front Page Top

#6 I was trying to figure out why I have been so frustrated this election cycle. Just why I am so angry, almost hurt feeling. It came to me today. I have reached a true point of clarity. The answers I have come to don’t make me any happier, but I do understand the how and why of my feelings, like a beacon it has become clear.

I wonder just what the hell happened in America. While I was gone in the military things changed. They changed radically. I can no longer call someone Black, white, brown, by the color of their skin. I’m racist or a Bigot. If I say he is that black guy, or Mexican guy over there, I am just wrong. But being identified as that white guy over there is ok. Double standards never work for me, but here we are knee deep in them. But this is deeper than that.

There is systematic process of silencing the over 40 year old middle class white guy. All hate speech laws are directed at this group. We no longer live in a world where stick and stones can break my bones but words will never hurt me, my mother taught me that and by the way and I have more respect for her than any of you reading this. We live where people think they are some kind of special snowflake. Where their feeling outweigh my rights and everyone else’s for that matter. Where we have to curb our speech, bite out tongue as to not offend some snowflake with our words, because words hurt. Well, they only hurt if you let them. Stop letting them, grow the fuck up, get out of your mothers basement, off social media, and join the real world, its pretty nice out here.

The challenge with this is that this is a direct attack on my right to free speech. Laws have been passed that tell me I can not express my Christian belief that homosexuality does not fit in my belief system, that I believe it is an unhealthy life choice. When I express this I’m called a homophobe, hater, bigot, and my words are a crime. I did not call for the death to gays, of even that they can not live and thrive in our society. I said it does not fit in my beliefs, no one has the right to control my beliefs. I’m not a homophobe, it is bullshit that I even have to defend myself and my beliefs. If you don’t like them, exercise you right to not listen to me or just go fuck yourself and your feeling. The US government is now prosecuting people who publically disagree with a scientific hypothesis of global warming. It is not a fact, not proven to be a fact any more than the fact in Galileo’s time that the sun revolved around the earth. A scientifically flawed, but generally agreed on, and politically mandated belief. A flawed science that was believed by the masses, scientists, and leaders, and when Galileo spoke his mind on another theory, he was arrested, and instead of being sentenced to death, he was place in house arrest in Florence Italy. For his thoughts, not actions, he cannot affect the movement of the stars any more than we are responsible for the fraud called global warming. Disagreement should never be a crime, we have a constitutional right to free thought and free speech. But not if you are an over 40 white guy. These laws restrict MY constitutional right of free speech as guaranteed in the 1st amendment to the constitution of the United States of America.

So my feelings are hurt, just like the snowflake I described earlier. But if that all it was I would man up and ignore it, like when Obama says America’s problems are all related to the middle aged white man. I disagree with him, but when I do I am a bigot and hater. But this is a bit different. Laws have been placed to limit MY free speech. Someone has decided that my free speech is hate and a crime, and when the black community in St Louis kills people and burns down their neighborhood it is a 1st amendment right for them to do so. And my being critical of the blacks burning their homes and businesses is bigoted, yet another crime. My desire to live a heterosexual Christian life is mocked, laws are passed to restrict my openness and restrict my worshiping. Only as a Christian white guy are these laws enforced against. The Muslim call to prayer is taught in some of America’s schools where Christian children are forced to mock pray to Allah, to show them it’s good. Speak out against this and you’re talking hate speech, a crime. Wear a cross to school and your expelled. I have no constitutional protection of free speech. I am “allowed” to speak, as long as it fits the national narrative and is derogatory to only the white middle aged man.

So we are in the constitutional finality, the fourth turning, I believe our constitution is now reduced to paper with no real meaning. Special interests have perverted peoples good will into bastardizing this document and reducing its meaningless drivel. Less pointed than a picture drawn with a broken crayon and less direct than the meanderings of an intellectual idiot. Once they have reduce the ability to speak freely, and we are almost there, the second amendment is next. Our President, the man that is supposed to support and defend the constitution with his very soul has called me a gun toting, bible clutching bigot. Isolating me from any value in any conversations. I’m that guy, clutching his guns and bible. Discount him, his speech, by the way, is now not protected by the constitution. I have only one word or warning to share on this.

Today they are coming for me, I will fight with every ounce of being in my soul to defend this constitution. Because I know, when they finish me, ridicule me, jail me, kill me, or finally silence me somehow, they will, just as sure as the sun rises come for you next….

Until then, I am not hiding and I am not alone.

Posted by 49 Pan 2016-06-16 14:45|| 2016-06-16 14:45|| Front Page Top

#7 Fred, thanks, I feel much better now...

Posted by 49 Pan 2016-06-16 14:50|| 2016-06-16 14:50|| Front Page Top

#8 I think this guy is just preparing the battlefield so that if this happens his lefty army of trolls can start sewing suspicion on conservatives to get them on the watch list. Sickening really.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-06-16 14:57|| 2016-06-16 14:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Most excellently stated 49 Pan! Bravo!

Posted by CrazyFool 2016-06-16 15:04|| 2016-06-16 15:04|| Front Page Top

#10 Well, Joe - Hillary is under FBI investigation, so . . . .

Posted by Barbara 2016-06-16 15:43|| 2016-06-16 15:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Excellent 49 Pan. While you were away serving (many thanks for you service) America was tribalized by Obama. But not everyone - just the Dem constituencies. To matter in America today, to have access to the corridors of real power you must belong to one of these tribes. Otherwise, you're an outlander who's presence threatens the health of the combined tribes. You must be marginalized at all points. To find out if you belong to one of the annointed tribes, all you need so is look at the questionnaires the DNC sends out after elections. Ya know, to get the pulse of the volkes. Every demographic under the sun is listed except one. Male. The African American male can select African American. The White female can select female. Guess who has been frozen out? RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

Posted by Rex Mundi 2016-06-16 15:51|| 2016-06-16 15:51|| Front Page Top

#12 49 Pan, I believe what we are seeing is peek liberalism. They are turning against each other and others are aligning against them and their slander. I feel we are a bit Weimar Republic with the decadence and madness but luckily we are not the Fascists the left always claims and so we will recover.

Until the pendulum swings back again.

Posted by rjschwarz 2016-06-16 16:31|| 2016-06-16 16:31|| Front Page Top

#13 49 Pan, a colleague of mine recently expressed nearly the exact same sentiments as your post. Interestingly, he is an immigrant from Bosnia. It took him and his wife over a decade to be granted full citizenship. He repeatedly expressed his sincere pride but humblally warned the direction the US has taken reminds him of the corruption he witnessed that (in part) led to civil war. He ominously said that a corrupt government will always try to silence it's citizens in order to take away their rights. He went on to say the vilification of those that defend the second ammendment is a prime example of tyranny in its infancy.

Posted by DepotGuy 2016-06-16 18:04|| 2016-06-16 18:04|| Front Page Top

#14 Excellent rant, 49PAN. Expresses what we feel, and well articulated.

Here is what I see: O&Co have their agenda that they came in with in 2008. His foreign policy is a disaster. He has sh*t on our allies and cozied up to our enemies and adversaries. He is not respected by other governments, so he has failed in this regard.

On the domestic front, he has tinkered with everything and basically damaged the basic institutions of this country that have been painfully developed over many years. He has got away with things, because of the passivity of the Congress.

But domestically, he is failing there, too. So what does he do? He attacks the opposition by the Alynski playbook. Accuses us of racisism, homophobia, etc etc. Things that you cannot defend yourself against with the kind of ad hominem attacks he does. Reason does not apply here.

Law abiding citizens cannot defend themselves unless they are going beyond the law. And he will make laws that will make us outlaws. He is softening up his enemies. Been doing this for years. He cannot control anything but the citizens. Look at the feds record of stopping terrorist attacks in this country. It is a joke. He does not care about the attacks. They are a convenient excuse for furthering his agenda.

He is putting good citizens in an untenable position: be a good dhimmi or be an outlaw. It has come to this.

But there is a fly in the ointment. The government is bankrupt. Once entities quit buying govt securities, the currency collapses. There is no where to go.

But find comfort in this: Europe is in the same boat, maybe worse. Merkel is trying to do the same thing with refugees in Germany. It is a giant slow motion suicide of countries.

We are heading over the cliff of the crisis. What happens on the other side could be good, if we can get it together, or really bad, if we can't. But this nation will never be the same.

Well, look on the good side. Yellowstone has not gone off......................yet.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2016-06-16 20:36|| 2016-06-16 20:36|| Front Page Top

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