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2016-06-16 Home Front: Politix

Negative views of Donald Trump just hit a new campaign high: 7 in 10 Americans

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Posted by Zhang Fei 2016-06-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11 views ] Top

#1 So ZF, does this mean that you are stupid enough to believe that Hillary will do a better job of defending our borders and at least holding our own with the adherents of Islam?

Posted by Crusader 2016-06-16 00:43|| 2016-06-16 00:43|| Front Page Top

#2 What's the relevance? I mean do Americans only vote for people they like?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-06-16 07:13|| 2016-06-16 07:13|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm not totally convinced Trump's negatives are as strong as the polls suggest. There are a lot of people who would be embarrassed to be thought of as supporting him but would vote for him. I saw that with Nixon. And Lord knows, we've voted in scumbags before.

Posted by Glenmore 2016-06-16 07:28|| 2016-06-16 07:28|| Front Page Top

#4 'Scumbag'.....hmm? 'Scumbag' really doesn't look so awfully bad when stacked up against a traitorous, lying, thieving, criminal conspirator, and potential accessory to murder.

If it's the only choice I'm given, I suspect I'll stick with 'scumbag.'

Posted by Besoeker 2016-06-16 07:32|| 2016-06-16 07:32|| Front Page Top

#5 I have read and talked to people who say that Trump is crass, outspoken, not PC, on the attack, and a jerk (these are some of the milder things) but they will vote for him. They would probable, if polled, say they have a negative opinion of him. Don't trust the polls, they can be bought too.

Posted by JohnQC 2016-06-16 07:48|| 2016-06-16 07:48|| Front Page Top

#6 BTE, the spineless RINOs in Congress who waffle about support for Trump every other week are less than despictable.

Posted by JohnQC 2016-06-16 07:51|| 2016-06-16 07:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Remember from whence these polls issue.

I feel that this election is so far outside the usual that nothing pundits and prognosticators will mean anything no matter if they turn out wrong or right.

I'm basing my view on one piece of personal anecdotal evidence.

My wife who may be the nicest person in the world has told me that I should get a gun license.

She has objected to guns in the house strongly for the 40 years we've been together. This has been totally personal, she's not a gun grabber at all. Things have descended to such a state that, with no prompting at all, she suggested strongly that I become armed.

She can't be the only one that feels this way. This type of reaction is not something that the establishments will ever see coming. Chaos is not far away if we continue on this road.

Posted by AlanC 2016-06-16 07:57|| 2016-06-16 07:57|| Front Page Top

#8 Chaos is not far away if we continue on this road.

I thought we'd already arrived.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-06-16 08:00|| 2016-06-16 08:00|| Front Page Top

#9 she suggested strongly that I become armed.

Does she also have an opinion on the proper armaments, AlanC?

Posted by trailing wife 2016-06-16 09:20|| 2016-06-16 09:20|| Front Page Top

#10 To whatever degree Trump is a scumbag, it pales beside the anti-American perfidy and corruption of the Clintons.

So I'm voting for the scumbag.

Posted by Dave D. 2016-06-16 09:25|| 2016-06-16 09:25|| Front Page Top

#11 Just as an aside, I have seen a few 'scumbags' rehabilitated. What the Beest is stricken with, not so much.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-06-16 09:27|| 2016-06-16 09:27|| Front Page Top

#12 Define "scumbag" -- real estate developer? I'll grant you that.

But he only screws financiers, where as the lawyer/political class are the kind of scumbags who screw everybody and everything they can get their hands on.

Posted by regular joe 2016-06-16 09:52|| 2016-06-16 09:52|| Front Page Top

#13 Anyone thinks someone like the Pope could fix this country, please raise their hand.

Posted by gorb 2016-06-16 10:46|| 2016-06-16 10:46|| Front Page Top

#14 TW, considering that my wish list has been developed over the course of 50 years the problem will be limiting my selection. My wife is in the "In for penny in for a pound" mode. When she sees some prices that may change quickly.

Of course, living in Massaholia could prove problematic.

Since I'm a traditionalist I won't be looking for any plastic rifles. AR15s are butt ugly in my estimation.

Might look at Marlin or Henry in .357 with a revolver to match.

I'm probably going to end up with a 9mm pistol of some kind, there are a million to choose from.
Wrist issue precludes a .45 and probably the .357 if I'm honest.

Can't imagine not getting a .22 rifle and pistol also.

Can you see where my problem might develop? 8^)
Oh, and I didn't even mention shotguns.

Posted by AlanC 2016-06-16 10:53|| 2016-06-16 10:53|| Front Page Top

#15 Pace Louisiana bumper stickers in 1991:

"Vote for the scumbag, it's important."

And if the 'Pubs are so concerned about pivoting to the general, then is it not incumbent on them to cease re-litigating the primaries?

As usual, the Ruling Class has one set of rules for themselves and one for the peasants.

Posted by charger 2016-06-16 11:05|| 2016-06-16 11:05|| Front Page Top

#16 BTW, in the pdf on methodology, it's noted that interviews were conducted in English and Spanish.

Scroll down to "METHODOLOGICAL DETAILS" and see first sentence.

Curiously fitting that this was posted in something called "The Fix".

Posted by charge 2016-06-16 11:10|| 2016-06-16 11:10|| Front Page Top

#17 Sometimes it takes a jerk, or a scumbag, to do the things that need doing and which the timid souls are unable to do.

Sometimes a person is called a jerk or a Nazi or a racists or whatever because he is saying things that nobody else has the guts to say. Example: Judge Curiel is a member of a racist organization and therefore unfit to sit on the bench.

But the bottom line here is that these polls are not crystal balls. You wanna bet your house, your car, your savings account on Hillary in November? Go for it. Just don't come to me on the street begging for spare change when it gets cold in January.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2016-06-16 12:13|| 2016-06-16 12:13|| Front Page Top

#18 It will be interesting to see what metaphysical space-time event takes places when Trump's favorable rating is as low as Congress'.

Posted by Iblis 2016-06-16 12:27|| 2016-06-16 12:27|| Front Page Top

#19 Also, new CBS poll out today: "When Johnson is thrown into the mix, the top line result becomes Clinton 39, Trump 32, Johnson 11."

Posted by Iblis 2016-06-16 12:30|| 2016-06-16 12:30|| Front Page Top

#20 Alan C: I like my 12 gauge pump. For roughly $200 a reliable Remington with a choice of rounds will take down anything from pheasants to felons.

Posted by regular joe 2016-06-16 12:58|| 2016-06-16 12:58|| Front Page Top

#21 "Might look at Marlin or Henry in .357 with a revolver to match."

I can vouch for the Marlin 1894C and a Smith & Wesson Model 686 as a fun combination.

I was very pleased with the long-range accuracy of the Marlin; given .357 Mag jacketed softpoint is not noted for its exquisite ballistics, I expected 1-2 foot shot groups at 100 yards. Instead, they held to 4-6 inches. Not quite sniper rifle performance, but plenty good enough.

"Wrist issue precludes a .45 and probably the .357 if I'm honest."

Shooting .38 Special in the revolver helps that, in my experience.

"Can't imagine not getting a .22 rifle and pistol also."

Unthinkable.

"Can you see where my problem might develop? 8^)"

"Might"??? Hope you have plenty of $$$, you're going to need it to satisfy your craving.

Posted by Dave D. 2016-06-16 13:02|| 2016-06-16 13:02|| Front Page Top

#22 re: #21, Dave, I can afford the guns, it's the addition to the house to hold them all that's worrisome. ;^)

Posted by AlanC 2016-06-16 13:07|| 2016-06-16 13:07|| Front Page Top

#23 she suggested strongly that I become armed.

Don't worry TW. There are plenty of us around that will cover you... Your not alone.

Posted by 49 Pan 2016-06-16 14:37|| 2016-06-16 14:37|| Front Page Top

#24 And several well maintained enclaves to which you would be welcomed.

Posted by Skidmark 2016-06-16 17:34|| 2016-06-16 17:34|| Front Page Top

#25 Thank you, 49 Pan and Skidmark. If it becomes necessary, that's very good to know! But at the moment I still have two black belts at home -- Mr. Wife and trailing daughter #1. :-)

Posted by trailing wife 2016-06-16 17:45|| 2016-06-16 17:45|| Front Page Top

#26 Charger, the bumper sticker I had was 'Vote for the Crook, It's Important.' Louisiana governor's race between Edwin Edwards & David Duke.

Posted by Glenmore 2016-06-16 21:53|| 2016-06-16 21:53|| Front Page Top

#27 You are correct Glenmore, I was just playing with the characterization of Trump as a scumbag.:)

Posted by charger 2016-06-16 23:08|| 2016-06-16 23:08|| Front Page Top

#28 Off the reject pile from a few weeks back...

"Hey, don't be a schnook!" trumpet mordant
Crusaders: "Your Donald's a ssserpent!
A nattering nudnik
Who'll trash the republic!
So vote for our crook -- it's important!"

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2016-06-16 23:58|| 2016-06-16 23:58|| Front Page Top

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