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2012-04-21 Home Front: Culture Wars
The Great California Exodus
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Posted by Besoeker 2012-04-21 08:34|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6478 views ]  Top

#1 Good find, Besoeker.
Posted by Pappy 2012-04-21 11:51||   2012-04-21 11:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Unfortunately you will never see this editorial in the San Francisco Comical or the Los Angeles Crimes.

The guy hit it out of the park over the apartment building across the street and into the vacant lot next to the tracks...he got it ALL.

The only reason I am here is because I bought this beautiful house that is now completely underwater AND I am unemployed. I'd move in a heart beat if I could find a job somewhere else and could unload my house.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2012-04-21 12:41||   2012-04-21 12:41|| Front Page Top

#3 OK, so right of the bat there is this...

Mr. Kotkin, one of the nation's premier demographers, left his native New York City in 1971 to enroll at the University of California, Berkeley.

New York City??? Blame Californians all you want but I blame New Yorkers.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-04-21 14:22||   2012-04-21 14:22|| Front Page Top

#4 off the bat, not of the bat. Sorry, but I started seeing red. New York is a red flag and by that I do NOT mean Republican.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-04-21 14:24||   2012-04-21 14:24|| Front Page Top

#5 OK, now I've read the whole thing and some of it is absolute nonsense...

Part of California's dysfunction, he says, stems from state and local government restrictions on development. These policies have artificially limited housing supply and put a premium on real estate in coastal regions.

How often does this guy leave his little ivy covered tower?

During the 1980's, 1990's and early 2000's the cities along the coast in northern San Diego County grew faster than any other cities in the state. I know. I was there. The city council members in these cities were in bed and having fun with any and every developer who came down the pike and there were a whole helluva lot of them. They went from sleepy, agricultural beach towns to big, frickin' Orange County style cities almost overnight. It's sticks and stucco with red tiled rooftops as far as the eye can see. Yes, it's expensive but it's in high demand and you could get an exotic, fraudulent mortgage courtesy of Fannie and Freddie for no money down. As for those who had to move to Temecula, boo hoo. You think Texas is better? Be my guest and leave. Or maybe you should go back to New York.

You want the entire California coast to look like Long Beach? FOAD.

You want the nicest weather in the world? You want to live with the beautiful people? You want a big house in the suburbs with a green lawn, palm trees, the beach down the street and fancy cars? You're gonna have to pay extra for that.

Yes, Jerry Brown is an idiot. But I didn't vote for him. Transplanted New Yorkers like Joel Kotkin did. Illegal aliens did. Thanks to Bill Clinton for that. Kotkin probably voted for him too. That's why California is boned.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-04-21 15:14||   2012-04-21 15:14|| Front Page Top

#6 Brown has structured his next FY budget assuming the voters will pass another big tax increase on those bastard rich people, or the "schools and parks will close". Typical. Either you vote for this draconian tax increase or "the poor and students will be kicked into the streets™". No other alternative exists in the Democrat calculus. Of course, when the vote fails, they'll find a way to make it work. Lying assholes
Posted by Frank G 2012-04-21 15:27||   2012-04-21 15:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Part of California's dysfunction, he says, stems from state and local government restrictions on development. These policies have artificially limited housing supply and put a premium on real estate in coastal regions.
True whether or not you like it.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-04-21 15:32||   2012-04-21 15:32|| Front Page Top

#8 You want the nicest weather in the world? You want to live with the beautiful people? You want a big house in the suburbs with a green lawn, palm trees, the beach down the street and fancy cars? You're gonna have to pay extra for that.
And Californians are paying extra for that. Oh, how they are paying!
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-04-21 15:33||   2012-04-21 15:33|| Front Page Top

#9 True whether or not you like it.

I don't believe it. All I've seen in the past three decades is growth. In 1993 I could drive down Interstate 5 to work without ever touching my brakes. Now I5 is a big parking lot. The politicians are in bed with the developers. They let them do whatever, wherever and whenever. Are you telling me you haven't seen that? Where do you live?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2012-04-21 18:36||   2012-04-21 18:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Ebbang - you know my bio by now. The Coastal I-5 improvements planned by Caltrans (I was Project Manager for the City's Project Report and Enviro Document clearance from Sorrento to LJ Village Dr as part of a new Genessee/I-5 bridge interchange) Help is on the way
Posted by Frank G 2012-04-21 19:15||   2012-04-21 19:15|| Front Page Top

#11 Anguper hears and sings along with the siren song of The Golden State's Demise. It's just so pretty to think so, especially for those who have never lived hear.

Posted by Gabby Cussworth 2012-04-21 19:40||   2012-04-21 19:40|| Front Page Top

#12 Ebbang, I can only speak for myself in my tiny little northern California town, but I had to fight city hall tooth and nail for years just to get permission to build a house on my own damn property. It was a friggin nightmare. I love it here (just got back from a beautiful spring skiing day), but I hate all the Californians who want big government to be responsible for all of us whether we like it or not.
Posted by AuburnTom 2012-04-21 19:50||   2012-04-21 19:50|| Front Page Top

#13 GOV.
Posted by newc 2012-04-21 22:45||   2012-04-21 22:45|| Front Page Top

#14 

Let me be blunt: as a gun collector I was actively driven out of California under Grey Davis. One year the things I had in my gun cabinet were legal. The next: ten years in state prison for having them. The Secretary of State said (and I quote)"Move to Nevada or Texas if you like that kind of thing."

So I did. And I cursed the state and everything it stands for as it vanished behind me.

Have you Californians ever wondered why your neighbors - the liberals in Oregon, the libertarians in Nevada, and the conservatives in Arizona - all despise you? Because you're arrogant, self-important, culturally grotesque, violent, and exploiting. When you move to other states, you don't assimilate - you try to force everyone to assimilate to you. You spread the sickness that is your state's degraded Stalinist culture every chance you get. And you - not anyone else - are responsible for the artistic Holocaust that is Hollywood.

We, your neighbors, have every right to hate you. You're our oppressors. You want to make CA a better place? Start by burning the LA and SF areas down.

Posted by Secret Master 2012-04-21 22:55||   2012-04-21 22:55|| Front Page Top

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