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2011-12-31 China-Japan-Koreas
China promotes air purifiers for its leaders and the elites.
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Posted by Water Modem 2011-12-31 02:19|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [789 views ]  Top

#1 The government are the only ones with true data about just how bad the air really is. No wonder they insulate themselves from the consequences of their own actions.
Posted by gromky 2011-12-31 04:33||   2011-12-31 04:33|| Front Page Top

#2 Sounds like a trade barrier tariff in order. Looks like the in thing depending on who gets elected.
Posted by Dale 2011-12-31 06:33||   2011-12-31 06:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Buy shares in Daikin?
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-12-31 09:40||   2011-12-31 09:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Vaguely Soylent-Greenish.
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-31 10:21||   2011-12-31 10:21|| Front Page Top

#5 I ran into a woman at the grocery store who, like me is a corporate wife. She related that after spending four years in Guang Zho, she had permanent and debilitating lung damage....and they'd lived in the penthouse of a modern building, well above the street level pollutants.

Air purifiers would be a big, big deal.
Posted by trailing wife 2011-12-31 12:23||   2011-12-31 12:23|| Front Page Top

#6 All that bad air drifts out over the Pacific Ocean and then over the North American continent. Got mercury in your fish? It's from Chicom smokestacks. It's just one more of the downsides to letting them do all of our manufacturing. They never met a smokestack scrubber that they like.
Posted by Abu Uluque 2011-12-31 13:53||   2011-12-31 13:53|| Front Page Top

#7 Abu Uluque good point and the cities will be fined for air polution levels being too elevated.
Posted by Dale 2011-12-31 17:15||   2011-12-31 17:15|| Front Page Top

#8 One of the reasons that the US environment has cleaned up since the creation of the EPA (yes, kids, it really has)is that many manufacturing plants were shut down because the cost of upgrading them to meet the EPA standards was too high.
China was willing to step in to take up the slack. Since they aren't burdened by the environmental regulations like we are, the result is what you see in China today.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2011-12-31 17:51||   2011-12-31 17:51|| Front Page Top

#9 Anybody who has lived any length of time in southern California can tell you that the air has indeed become cleaner than it was in 1972 when you could just about cut that smog with a knife...and that was in San Diego...just imagine places like Los Angeles and Houston. Remember folks, it was Richard Nixon who initiated the EPA. Go ahead and vilify him if you will but he did some good things and he was nowhere near as crooked as his predecessor. IMHO, he was nowhere near as crooked as the current POTUS.

So now the Chinese have the smokestacks, the manufacturing and the smog. Hey, I'm all in favor of science, technology and industry. No, I really am. If we'd kept it here and kept it cleaner we'd all be better off. Hey, I'm all in favor of profits too. But you can't go on polluting the environment to that extent. Your workers will die. Besides, do you really want to live all your life indoors breathing air that is mechanically purified?
Posted by Abu Uluque 2011-12-31 18:20||   2011-12-31 18:20|| Front Page Top

#10 been here in San Diego since I was born - 1959 - and the air, although not quite as bad as Abu says (editorial license granted) his point is quite correct. The air is WAY better than it was in the 70's. The EPA and CARB are agencies with declining "priorities", so they expand their control to justify their jobs. They deserve reduction in staff and budget instead
Posted by Frank G 2011-12-31 18:43||   2011-12-31 18:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Remember the Cuyahoga River, the one that caught on fire in the 1960's?
It is now so clean that the unemployed go fishing there to while away the time.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-12-31 20:23||   2011-12-31 20:23|| Front Page Top

#12 Anyone can find out the air quality in China. There is a live hourly report on Beijing air quality from the roof of the US embassy using US standards posted to twitter. It is here.

Go look if you are curious.

As the Chinese become more wealthy, they will pollute their environment less. Right now most people there make barely enough money to buy food and housing. The better off are working on obtaining indoor plumbing and electricity. The wealthy are spending their money on education, internet, and cars. Only when most people in China are making $1k a month will they seriously start to care about the environment.

When biggest environmental problem in your town is the foaming rivulets of sewage in the street, people focus on that. Air quality is less important.
Posted by rammer 2011-12-31 21:08||   2011-12-31 21:08|| Front Page Top

#13 AH9418, I went to college in Cleveland, graduating in 1969. I remember how bad the river was, and how bad downtown smelled from the refineries and other plants.

In 1999, I went back for my college reunion, and we had dinner in the "Flats" right on the river. It was clean, and didn't smell bad at all. Of course, all the refineries and steel plants were shut down.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2011-12-31 22:07||   2011-12-31 22:07|| Front Page Top

#14 The MSM-Net once showed lots of fotage depicting Chinese kiddies playing in oir around montains of industrial-consumer waste + multi-colored waters.

As for the CPC Leadership. there are adults + mostly geriatric.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-12-31 23:26||   2011-12-31 23:26|| Front Page Top

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